So I just got my hands on the device a couple hours ago, and this is so great I felt the need to write a review immediately.
When I heard the name "oppo", and saw that company from China, I wasn't expecting something spectacular. It had good specs on the paper, but in my mind I was thinking "Meh, it will be just a blown up chinese device". Well, I'm glad to say I was wrong!
The package
Opened the first cardboard box. This first one looked like a shoebox, pretty amusing at first, and inside is contained the actual device box. And there came the first great surprise: it's already original. The box actually unfolds, seated by a magnet. You then get your eyes on the phone, and under it you can find the classic accessories (earbuds, charger, USB) PLUS! Two programmable NFC tags. Nice little gift.
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The device itself
The device itself is pretty standard:
- On the top of the front, you can find the front camera, earpiece, and a notification LED. Other sensors are pretty hidden, which make it very clean. On the bottom, 3 touch keys that light up when the screen is on (and they're otherwise invisible), from left to right Menu, Home and Back. Since I'm used to Nexus 4 touchkeys, the back key is on the other side.
- The back is also clean, similar to some HTCs. A simple and small camera sensor on the top, a tiny hole for the 2nd microphone next to it, a big speaker at the bottom, and that's it. There's a subtle "oppo" logo written in the middle, and I'm wondering right now if they shouldn't rotate that logo, as it's written vertically, thus you're not sure if it's "oddo" or "oppo", especially if you're holding it in landscape the wrong way.
- On the left side, the SIM tray, similar (if not exactly the same) to the Nexus 4 one ; you need a small extractor tool to open it, and under it the power button.
- On the right side, just the two volume buttons.
On the top lays the headphone jack, and the USB on the bottom.
All the buttons feels super sturdy and well-made, there's little to no jankiness. A sturdy device. The design is original and you cannot say "what's that iPhone" when seeing it.
Turning it on
Duuh, a boot sound, I hate that.
Okay first, the screen is GORGEOUS. I never had the chance to see another 1080p screen in a phone yet, but the Find 5's one is definitely one of the best screens I've seen. It doesn't have burning colors like AMOLED, and has just the right contrast. The viewing angles are way better than Nexus 4's (which gives blue if you look from one side, or yellow from another side), to put it straight there's simply no color offset at all from any angle. There a very small contrast increase when you look from the bottom or the top at a high angle, but you really have to be looking for it. The resolution is just great, it's beautiful.
Classic connectivity. I don't have my SIM card in yet, but it has all the things you'd need: Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, NFC (with a little tool to write some features to the provided tags), support for Wi-Fi Display, Wi-Fi Direct, etc. Of course, they use the normal NFC protocol, so you can Beam with your friends having a Nexus. The Wi-Fi reception seems pretty good, no loss of speed anywhere in my house.
Now, one big downside, the software. Actually, it feels like TouchWiz, and god knows I hate TouchWiz. It's like having a Galaxy S, with iOS-like icons (rounded glossy squares) and the same exact style of app drawer. The settings menu has been revamped, and it's a big mess. Everything feels just unsorted and messy, there no logical way to find out a particular option. And the Developer Settings menu lacks 90% of options.
The notification bar puts Wi-Fi and 3G on the left, notifications on the right (just like an iPhone). The top of the notification drawer is the Jelly Bean one, and JUST underneath you get gray gradients with quick settings icons (just like TouchWiz, again), and a old-style notification list, with the clear button at the bottom.
In the gallery, the Android's Action Bar has been removed to put a small shortcuts bar at the bottom, iOS-styled once again. The contacts app is also TouchWizy.
You can find some extra features in the settings, like gestures and motions to pick up a call.
There sure are some good ideas from Oppo's software designers, but they really took a direction waaaay too straight towards iOS (now, did I say TouchWiz because I'm not used to see them on an iPhone originally? Heh). Take the same color scheme, but with Holo design, and you'll be an epic win for me.
Wait, it's not all! Camera time!
From what I could see previously, it's no surprise that the Camera software is also not spectacular. It has that same iPhone inspiration, and both the UI and UX are very perfectible. The settings cannot be naturally scrolled, and it's a bit bad to use.
However, the Camera hardware is pretty great, at least on the video part. You can record the classic 480p, 720p and 1080p resolutions with the back camera, and 120fps video in either slow-motion or at regular speed in 480p resolution. This is something never seen before, and sports fan will probably like it, as you can record things moving fast in a smooth slow-motion.
The front camera allows recording in 720p, and has a pretty good lighting.
For pictures, even though both front and back support HDR, the quality is not spectacular. It's in the range of most phones, at least in medium-low light. The image is pretty noisy and grainy, and a bit blurry even when focusing as best as possible.
A sample from the back camera (click to enlarge):
Wrap-up
From a hardware point of view, the Find 5 is really awesome: great SoC (same as Nexus 4) with 2GB RAM, superb screen, nice speakers, notification LED, nice camera, original design, and the touchkeys are ideally positioned. It's a sturdy device, that tells you "I can live forever".
However, the software really lacks polishing (but CyanogenMod will take care of that, hehe). You can smell the iPhone inspiration everywhere, and it just breaks the Android experience as all the other apps behave differently than the system. Some apps like the Settings app has been revamped and became a mess, but there are some nice ideas like the Files app, having an okay design, and cool features like FTP or DLNA.
All in all, that's a 8.5/10 for me, because I know the software won't last long on my device. It's really worth the price. The back camera could be a little bit better when it comes to pictures, and a little refinement of the device shape (especially some edges) would make it even better, but I'm nitpicking.
If you want it, don't hesitate, you should get it.
Thanks friend.
Will have cm10.1 support
Ty
Aerys said:
Thanks friend.
Will have cm10.1 support
Ty
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Of course, I want that device to be my Nexus 4 Plus.
XpLoDWilD said:
Of course, I want that device to be my Nexus 4 Plus.
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I help you test
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Will have cm10.1 support
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Unless we run into some horrible unforeseen obstacle, yes.
Where you guys bought the oppo?
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Where you guys bought the oppo?
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Normally, Chinese manufacturers set up us teh bomb
Instead...
oppo set up us teh free device
I'm not quite ready for a review yet - But here's some observations regarding their software, from a development perspective:
First, a bit of background - Qualcomm devices are almost always derived, to some degree, from Qualcomm's reference source at CodeAurora, aka CAF.
https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/la/
A good way to determine which CAF release tag a manufacturer used was to check out various tags from https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/quic/la/?p=kernel/msm.git;a=summary , drop the manufacturer's source release on top, and find the CAF tag that produces the smallest diff after dropping the source on top.
A list of CAF tags (which can sometimes be quite outdated, but is good enough for our purposes) is at https://www.codeaurora.org/xwiki/bin/QAEP/release
In the case of the Find5 - they derived from CAF tag A8064AAAAANLYA101034 - which is fairly old (October 2012). It's on branch jb_rel_rb4 Oppo didn't merge in upstream CAF changes at all in the interim. Sony's Xperia Z kernels were based on A8064AAAAANLYA1334, which is only about a month newer date-wise, but is at least Android 4.1.2 instead of 4.1.1
A8064AAAAANLYA101034 is a tag along the jb_rel_rb4 branch
Oppo's kernel produces a diff against the base CAF tag that is only about 583k in size - this is pretty small (good news!)
I'm in the process of pushing these diffs as a reference to https://github.com/Entropy512/kernel_find5_reference - NOTE: I will NOT be doing any development in that particular repo, AND I may rebase it periodically. It is for REFERENCE ONLY.
Attached is a complete patchset against the above tag, generated using
Code:
git format-patch
EDITED: Previously I thought the base CAF tag was A8064AAAAANLYA103010 - this is wrong.
Thanks for the review xplodwold! Its kinda cool to hear your take on it.
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Oppostyle.com..or amazon
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So it means it is hackable? No locked bootloader, fastboot open, rootable, kernel source?
Chris
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Coreym said:
Oppostyle.com..or amazon
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also ibuygou.com
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So it means it is hackable? No locked bootloader, fastboot open, rootable, kernel source?
Chris
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Yep
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Stick to official stores for warranty.
First off, a great review which is killing me more as I'm waiting for DHL to update my tracking info. The best is that the future is looking bright for this device in the ROM department, thanks guys!:good:
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So it means it is hackable? No locked bootloader, fastboot open, rootable, kernel source?
Chris
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Bootloader seems wide open.
Biggest "quirk", which doesn't take too long to figure out, is that you need to add Oppo's USB vendor ID (0x22d9) to ~/.android/adb_usb.ini (that's on Linux, not sure which Windows/MacOS equivalents are...)
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Bootloader seems wide open.
Biggest "quirk", which doesn't take too long to figure out, is that you need to add Oppo's USB vendor ID (0x22d9) to ~/.android/adb_usb.ini (that's on Linux, not sure which Windows/MacOS equivalents are...)
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That's interesting. Maybe that's why we were having so much problem to get adb working
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please xplodwild, make us a cyano rom...oppo rom is so s.hitty and buggy :crying:
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Chris
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Yes ,yes ,yes ,yes and yes .
What a great news, I'm a oppo find 5 owner, now very pleased by your great job to bring us third part ROM!!!!!
I've taken a break from find5 to try and get camera working on the Sony Xperia Z using a trick pointed out to me by one of the other CM maintainers.
If this works, it means that instead of starting with a massive kernel rebase, we can use the same approach the Z maintainers are currently using for their bringup (bring patches from mako into the factory kernel) and then do a major kernel rebase later.
The method used to do bringup on the Z is much faster, however it was previously thought it would not be possible to get camera working without some major hacks. Now it looks like there may be an easier (although still a bit hacky...) solution - if it works on the Z, that'll be a good path to go on this device.
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Now that Samsung have officially confirmed that the Note will be one of the first to get the ICS update, what improvements will it make? Will it be worth while doing it for Note works very well on Gingerbread.
The most important for me, except other nice features, is that ics will optimized full the 2 cores of Note and improved more battery life.
Sent from the best smartphone, Galaxy Note...
I am sure ICS will fly on the Note. Full dual core optimisation is what I am wanting.
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the most SICK news it's "hardware acceleration"
we got much mote better GPU than Samsung Galaxy Nexus !
So our phone will ROCK !
i know they said ICS in Q1 but have they released a tentative date?. .
any ideas? .or patterns with samsung?
I hope they take their time releasing ICS. The fewer the bugs, the better for us
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i know they said ICS in Q1 but have they released a tentative date?. .
any ideas? .or patterns with samsung?
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I was talking to a Samsung rep on phone today and when i asked him about ICS, he said "Its already on ICS". So my next question was: "are you sure? cause i am on 2.3.6". He said "yeah what i meant was, since our nexus has it, it won't be long before the note gets it. No official dates as to when it comes" So, either a) he had no idea what he was talking about, or b) ICS is being tested on the note as we speak
what im waiting for is AOSP ICS rom or CM9 would do. The reason is FULL tablet interface, experience.
I'm wondering how much faster the camera will be. Romain Guy said that the zero shutter lag on the galaxy nexus is a combination of software+hardware optimisations, so it will be interesting to find out what kind of improvement we will get. At the moment it feels like there is 1 second between each of 1) Pressing the camera button, 2) The shutter noise and 3) actual photo taken. It's a bizarre experience.
It's gonna be LEGEND......
..wait for it....
....ARY!
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I'm wondering how much faster the camera will be. Romain Guy said that the zero shutter lag on the galaxy nexus is a combination of software+hardware optimisations, so it will be interesting to find out what kind of improvement we will get. At the moment it feels like there is 1 second between each of 1) Pressing the camera button, 2) The shutter noise and 3) actual photo taken. It's a bizarre experience.
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The main reason they used a 5MP instead of an 8MP camera in the Galaxy Nexus was speed. Fewer pixels to process, fewer pixels to write to storage. Don't expect that kind of speed on the Note, or a GS2, etc when they get the ICS camera app.
To be honest, if you use the technique and aren't using the flash where you prepare the camera by pressing the shutter button first and then release when you want to take the picture then there is virtually no meaningful lag.
You definitely have a different note than me. The lag ducks. Do like the camera tho.
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To be honest, if you use the technique and aren't using the flash where you prepare the camera by pressing the shutter button first and then release when you want to take the picture then there is virtually no meaningful lag.
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Im hoping that ICS might correct my offset screen (s-pen, finger input) and somehow get rid of the pinkish huein the middle of the pictures i take.
If Dolohin HD crashed less that would be great.
Other than that, everything else would be gravy. I love my Note and I am now done with iphones. My son still has a 4gS but I cant even stand to look at it!
However, Im not one of those people who judge others. If you love iphones, more power to ya!
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Im hoping that ICS might correct my offset screen (s-pen, finger input) and somehow get rid of the pinkish huein the middle of the pictures i take.
If Dolohin HD crashed less that would be great.
Other than that, everything else would be gravy. I love my Note and I am now done with iphones. My son still has a 4gS but I cant even stand to look at it!
However, Im not one of those people who judge others. If you love iphones, more power to ya!
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Ics should fix the spen problem, ics has stylus input already built in.
Yes having the spen more accurate would be a great new advantage of having ICS on Note..
I am still impressed by the speed of my note. With ICS if it gets better... Awesome!
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Ics should fix the spen problem, ics has stylus input already built in.
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I got sick of my pen making random selections and acting erratic. I had a fit lol amd ripped the button off the side of the pen. Problem solved. Its still offset and i despise that bur at least when i pass the pen over the screen it doesnt select something from and inch away from the screen. I will buy a new pen with no button function. Thr only thing i ever used the button for was screen caputure but i can do that easily with hone button + sleep button.
I notice that on some web pages when i want to click a link, i have to compensate by pressing higher that the hyper link with my finger or pen.
Samsung wants to have an s-pen smartphone... GET IT RIGHT. As far as finger touch goes, there is no excuse for having to press 2mm higher than the hyperlink. Thats a lack of screen calibration which i find ignorant.
Now if i could stop all of my browsers from closing abruptly i would be less angry about the screen calibration. My iphone browser has never closed on me, not on any of them.
Still love my phone though. However, i seem to be refering to it as the galaxy n7000 because between tje pen and the unforgivable lack of screen calibration, "Note" seems a like a title that it has yet to earn.
Strange, I have no spen inaccuracy problem.
However I would like to see:
1-Better camera picture quality,the sharpness in the taken pics really sucks.
2-faster,this is a must be addressed issue,the wakeup lag from the homebutton,the lag while opening applications specially the Contacts is just unforgivable for hardware with such specs.
3-I have no such issue in the Opera browser since its not hardware accelerated,but both Dolphin and stock browsers which support that feature crush a lot and suffer from battery drainage. This of course could be because gingerbread doesn't support that feature either.
Other than these three very important issues all is well on my front.!!
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Strange, I have no spen inaccuracy problem.
However I would like to see:
1-Better camera picture quality,the sharpness in the taken pics really sucks.
2-faster,this is a must be addressed issue,the wakeup lag from the homebutton,the lag while opening applications specially the Contacts is just unforgivable for hardware with such specs.
3-I have no such issue in the Opera browser since its not hardware accelerated,but both Dolphin and stock browsers which support that feature crush a lot and suffer from battery drainage. This of course could be because gingerbread doesn't support that feature either.
Other than these three very important issues all is well on my front.!!
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Correct. Whilst it's not perfect the wake up lag is poor. Sometimes when opening sms messages or contacts/phonebook it takes upto 4 seconds which is unnacceptable!!!
It should be instantaneous...
im pretty excited about ics too exspecially about the new ui. I was looking through the features list and it didnt say any thing about it there but does any one know if the default mail app (not gmail) has push notifications
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I read the page but it didn't say anything about push email which is really important to me, i use yahoo mail as a default mail and i use the ymail app, not that there is anything wrong with it but i prefer the default email app as sometimes when you want to "share" something there is the message, Bluetooth, email and stuff but sometimes it doesn't have the share through yahoo mail app, plus the yahoo mail takes forever to 'attach' pictures and send.
I just wanted to know if you guys know anything about the push email on the default email app, i know the gmail app has it but im not switching to gmail
Another thing i would like to know is this:
Huge fan of reading ebooks, and note has a sexy screen perfect for reading books, and i love the ui the books are displayed above, can any one clarify if that is only for tablets, or is an app on the android market (checked the market and nothing) or will only be available on ics when it comes out
Also will the 'US' version of android market be available outside US on ics or we still got to root and then use market enabler?
Hope ICS comes out soon with as little bugs and and plenty of improvements possible!!
Hey there,
I know that the Nexus 4 is an aweome phone...
But I took some pictures recently and the quality is Okay.
I am coming from a One X, and we had a Camera Mod that made the pictures awesome.
I was wondering if we could see a similar mod coming on the Nexus 4?
Here are some pictures that I took
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As you can see, it's just okay... I'd say below average...
I'm not complaining, it's a $299 phone and I'm happy with it... Just think that some tweaks or mods could make it better
Nice ride
Im hoping that some like the sensation 4g camera mod comes out, that would be nice
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Hey there,
I know that the Nexus 4 is an aweome phone...
But I took some pictures recently and the quality is Okay.
I am coming from a One X, and we had a Camera Mod that made the pictures awesome.
I was wondering if we could see a similar mod coming on the Nexus 4?
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As someone pointed out to me, HTC, Samsung, etc. and their respective "skins" (Sense, TouchWiz) are what pack those image capturing features. Google has much less invested into the camera scene than say, HTC with their "ImageSense" technology.
Could Google fix this? I suppose, though I don't know if they will. I've pondered the same questions as yourself.
My N4 is still on backorder, though I've been wondering what affect using something like CameraZoom FX would have. The N4's camera hardware is top notch, it's the software that's lacking. Maybe an app fixes that some, maybe not (I've yet to try).
Another thought is download Snapseed (used it, love it). I would think the stock N4 camera software + Snapseed would yield pleasant photos (but again, I do not have mine yet and am unable to perform any of these tests).
yea camera could be a bit better.
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Im hoping that some like the sensation 4g camera mod comes out, that would be nice
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Oh yeah, I had on my Sensation 4G as well, I saw a real improvment !
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As someone pointed out to me, HTC, Samsung, etc. and their respective "skins" (Sense, TouchWiz) are what pack those image capturing features. Google has much less invested into the camera scene than say, HTC with their "ImageSense" technology.
Could Google fix this? I suppose, though I don't know if they will. I've pondered the same questions as yourself.
My N4 is still on backorder, though I've been wondering what affect using something like CameraZoom FX would have. The N4's camera hardware is top notch, it's the software that's lacking. Maybe an app fixes that some, maybe not (I've yet to try).
Another thought is download Snapseed (used it, love it). I would think the stock N4 camera software + Snapseed would yield pleasant photos (but again, I do not have mine yet and am unable to perform any of these tests).
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Will try some of these apps ! Didn't know about them ! Thanks for the input
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Waaaay better
Check this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039553
There's somebody modding a file for making better videos. Maybe it's the same for modding better photos?
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Check this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2039553
There's somebody modding a file for making better videos. Maybe it's the same for modding better photos?
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No this is gonna be the same as the nexus 7 video hack, it was 420p to 720p or something like that but it doesn't change anything with taking pictures.
I'm actually pretty happy with the camera, most point and shoot works this way, hell even photos taken from a dslr looks bland without at least light editing.
Better front camera would be nice.
Umm, does anybody know if the is a physical button to use to take pictures?
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clayjohn said:
As someone pointed out to me, HTC, Samsung, etc. and their respective "skins" (Sense, TouchWiz) are what pack those image capturing features. Google has much less invested into the camera scene than say, HTC with their "ImageSense" technology.
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That's tha advantage of HTC and Samsung. They have image enhancing software to make their pictures better.
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I bought the Camera FX yesterday, hope it makes a difference. Will keep you guys posted !
i very much hope this is something that is on Google's list for KLP along with display calibration. those are 2 things that can see further improvements, and would make the Nexus one hell of an overkill phone.
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i very much hope this is something that is on Google's list for KLP along with display calibration. those are 2 things that can see further improvements, and would make the Nexus one hell of an overkill phone.
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i just rma'd my phone due to weird camera issues. It would launch into camera app and the screen would become unresponsive. strange.
i do know google barely touched the camera and the pictures that come out were pretty untouched. Also as we can see video recording is at a super low bitrate (???? not sure why they would make that decision)
hopefully this update fixes some of the weird issues where the camera constantly autofocuses and the focus ring stays on the picture after you take it
The camera isn't a strong point on the N4. The colors look very washed out.
Google may already know that their image quality isn't the best, thus their interest in the Kodak patent portfolio. It appears as though a number of these patents have already been licensed to other phone manufacturers like Samsung, LG, and Nokia.
and hot damn that LED flash is bright indoors. Most of the indoor shots I take end up people cowering away with the light!
Yeah, the pics I took with flash in the dark just messed the pics up. The flash was too bright or the timing was off.
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and hot damn that LED flash is bright indoors. Most of the indoor shots I take end up people cowering away with the light!
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That's one of the things that I'd like to be see fixed with some sort of mod, and I think it'd be reasonable to expect that it wouldn't be so far-fetched that it's not worth someone's time. In other words, I hope it's easy enough to do that someone does it.
Does anyone have any tips for getting the shutter to focus on where you've tapped it, instead of it going berserk and focus-unfocus-focus-unfocus-focus ad nausem?
OP, I highly recommend you take down the pictures with your license plate present and check if the uploader you used to host these pics scrubs meta info (gps coordinates etc). If you uploaded directly from your phone, the meta info is probably still available.
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get prohdr app. i got the app for my ipod touch 4 which had a crappy camera and it made my pics look awesome. it should help your nexus 4 camera too.
Hey why can't somebody port over HTC one x photo software for the nexus 4? Idk if this is hard or not because I never ported anything so Yea just a suggestion
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Here is the poll for SailfishOS. Let me know what you think about this gesture based OS. And tell me why you think that . And if you have suggestions, please let us know.
Jolla has updated there site. I recommend that you visit it!
You can find more info about the operating system here.
I also have a separate poll for Jolla's phone. Please vote there too!
Sailfish OS
Sailfish OS will use the Nokia HERE maps. It will also feature the Yandex.Store for the Android apps. And the Jolla Store for the native apps is also open. Developer can submit their apps at Jolla Harbour. The Jolla Harbour is free of charge. It is also possible to submit Android apps there.
Specs for the phone:
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Dimensions & weight
Height: 131 mm
Width: 68 mm
Thickness: 9.9 mm
Weight: 141 g
Processor
Qualcomm Dual Core 1.4GHz
Network & connectivity
GSM/3G/4G LTE* (Works on 6 continents)
WLAN802.11 b/g/n 2.4GHz
Bluetooth 4.0 EDR HS
AGPS & GLONASS
USB2.0 HS
Standard 3.5mm 4-pin audio jack
Micro SIM
Standard MicroUSB connectivity and charging
Extension interfaces for wireless NFC, power in/out and I2C data connectivity
* List of supported countries and operators will be published later.
Memory
16GB storage
1GB RAM
MicroSD slot
Display
Ample 4.5" IPS qHD (960x540) display
5-point multi-touch with Gorilla 2™ Glass
Camera
8MP AF camera with LED flash
2MP front-facing camera
Sensors
Proximity
Accelerometer
Gyro
E-compass
Ambient light
Power
Talk & stand-by time (approx.): 9 / 10hrs (GSM/3G) & 500hrs
User-replaceable battery (2100mAh, 3.8V, 7.98Wh)
Hands on videos:
Please let me know what you think of it.
Interesting OS (good to see sandbox being used for android apps). Not interested in the phone hardware itself.
shure2 said:
Interesting OS (good to see sandbox being used for android apps). Not interested in the phone hardware itself.
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The OS is open source so maybe it will be on a phone that you like. What phone are you interested in?
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The OS is open source so maybe it will be on a phone that you like. What phone are you interested in?
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This on tablets or any larger phone with a good development community. Probably timing wise it might work well on the new nexus phone which should be cutting edge tech and if it follows the N4 prices quite cheap too.
I wouldn't mind seeing this on a more premium looking device like the HTC One.
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shure2 said:
This on tablets or any larger phone with a good development community. Probably timing wise it might work well on the new nexus phone which should be cutting edge tech and if it follows the N4 prices quite cheap too.
I wouldn't mind seeing this on a more premium looking device like the HTC One.
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I also think that it would be nice on a big display. And because there aren't any buttons on the screen there is a lot of room for the content.
But I do like the Jolla phone.
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i don't think we will see this device on big devices like "htc one". in fact we will never get it publicly on any android device for a long time. i'm sure that they will want to see their devices selling first.
only n950 and n9 has that chance and even that might be a pain in the butt.
btw the development emulator on acer w500 tablet: http://vimeo.com/62061963
some pictures from different devices:
nexus 7
n950, jolla & nexus 7
Arty. said:
i don't think we will see this device on big devices like "htc one". in fact we will never see it on any android device for a long time. i'm sure that they will want to see their devices selling first.
only n950 and n9 has that chance and even that might be a pain in the butt.
btw the development emulator on acer w500 tablet: http://vimeo.com/62061963
some pictures from different devices:
nexus 7
n950, jolla & nexus 7
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I agree with you. I also don't think that we will see it on different devices. And from what I understand, the interface that Jolla uses isn't open source. Or something like that.
But I do think that HTC should use a different OS, like SailfishOS. Then they have something different. That is how they got popular with android, because they were the first.
And thanks for the pics, I will add them to the first post tomorrow
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tbo-art said:
I agree with you. I also don't think that we will see it on different devices. And from what I understand, the interface that Jolla uses isn't open source. Or something like that.
But I do think that HTC should use a different OS, like SailfishOS. Then they have something different. That is how they got popular with android, because they were the first.
And thanks for the pics, I will add them to the first post tomorrow
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also, people can still use this os without the ui. there is nemo mobile and it's open source. if they want it so much they should try to port nemo mobile instead of waiting for something that will not happen.
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maybe add some videos of the os?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxv7iXwIgno
Arty. said:
also, people can still use this os without the ui. there is nemo mobile and it's open source. if they want it so much they should try to port nemo mobile instead of waiting for something that will not happen.
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maybe add some videos of the os?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxv7iXwIgno
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Thanks for the video. I also bookmarked a few videos on my laptop that I will add tomorrow.
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tbo-art said:
Let me know what you think about this gesture based OS.....
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are all this apps compatible with sailfish?
AIDE
AndFTP
AndroPHP
Android Assistant
Beats or DSP by CM
Control Panel for cPanel
Dj Studio
Droid VPN
Expense Manager
Fast Burst Camera
Firefox
FPse
Go SMS
gStrings
Guitar PRO
GameBoid
Genesis
Geroid
GBcoid
Halo/Multiwindow
Instagram
IMO
Jbed
Joooid
Link2SD
My Tracks
Mx Player
Nesoid
Nova Launcher
Open Bibles
Opera Mini
PPSSPP
Project NOAH
QuickPIC
Root Explorer
Shadyface
SMS Bomber
Sweep2wake
Titanium BackUP
uTorrent
TIA!
Will I be able to boot Samsung Galaxy S3 on sailfish?
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sidhusupercool said:
Will I be able to boot Samsung Galaxy S3 on sailfish?
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No ROM has even been released yet, so there is no point speculating. The phone that will probably get it first is Jolla's phone, and the Nokia N9*
It's innovative and a breath of fresh air. After using the N9 for a couple years, then getting a chance to use an iPhone 4/5 for a couple years (company issued), and now after trying Android for over a year, I find both iOS and Android less intuitive than MeeGo -- I initially kept swiping to switch and close apps LOL.
I'm not sure how the pully menu system will feel in everyday usage, but at least it's innovative.
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10basetom said:
It's innovative and a breath of fresh air. After using the N9 for a couple years, then getting a chance to use an iPhone 4/5 for a couple years (company issued), and now after trying Android for over a year, I find both iOS and Android less intuitive than MeeGo -- I initially kept swiping to switch and close apps LOL.
I'm not sure how the pully menu system will feel in everyday usage, but at least it's innovative.
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The pulley menu has sound and vibration. So you should really "feel" that your using it. I also think that this is an innovative way to use a menu instead of something on the screen like Android. This way there is more room for the content
Good point...it allows the UI elements to get out of the way huh.
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The pulley menu has sound and vibration. So you should really "feel" that your using it.
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WOW, this sound amazing! so it's possible to use some functions of the menu without see the display, nice!
Deedend said:
WOW, this sound amazing! so it's possible to use some functions of the menu without see the display, nice!
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I reckon it will be something like keyboard haptics + sound (and I assuming people will be able to disable both to extend battery life).
I really like the look and feel of the OS
tbo-art said:
The pulley menu has sound and vibration. So you should really "feel" that your using it. I also think that this is an innovative way to use a menu instead of something on the screen like Android. This way there is more room for the content
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I can tell you that after you get used to navigating the phone with you thumb it gets really natural. You don't need to "reach" to activate UI elements.
It seems strange that a screen that could, if properly integrated with small aesthetic changes in the software, extend dramatically the battery life of this device is being asked more and more (with every update) to energize and illuminate as many pixels with 100% white as possible. It is maddening to me. When we add into the mix the non-replaceable battery, the whole thing starts to reek of planned obsolescence.
I would like to give motorola the benefit of the doubt, and imagine that the software developers in charge of the texting, dialer, and contacts truly have our eyes and sensibilities at heart, but it is difficult.
Thank you to all developers, including those who created this very app, who have followed in the footsteps of blackle (or without any external inspiration) and afforded the end user a simple switch in a settings dialogue somewhere.
I am assuming that at some point another software update will happen for this otherwise amazing phone. What are the options for communicating the desire for such a change to those rolling out 4.4.next? Whose skirt do I tug on? I have seen a LOT of similar sentiment. Also, should the ability to root an at&t '58 ever come to light, are there any ROMs that are skinned in darkness? Oh wait, I know, UTSF.
I feel better just talking about it. Thanks.
What?
It's stock Android, not specifically the Moto X. Indeed if you root there are many ways to make the white black
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rocketsaucev2 said:
It's stock Android, not specifically the Moto X. Indeed if you root there are many ways to make the white black
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any root app for this?
super65man said:
any root app for this?
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Gravity Box for all black system and "team blacked out" (they invert many apps) for a lot else. Also, there are many apps, that have "dark" (black) themes. I use Textra (sms) and whatsapp plus (find a black costum theme). Also, for Firefox there are extensions, that invert webpages. Too bbad Firefox is crap
But hold your horses, the difference in battery life isn't that dramatic. People will ALWAYS pick the phone that is brighter and has more "vibrant" colors in the store. The latest Samsung ad even refers to the critic, the colors on their devices are over saturated. It's a feature, not a bug
Dark menus and apps like the dialer are generally harder to view outside, and aren't as pleasing to the eye. Had a GS4 (it has an AMOLED screen as well) and tried a custom ROM done exactly to accommodate the AMOLED with dark colors and clear black everywhere possible. Well, I didn't enjoyed that in the long run, although it looked sleek at first sight. As I said it's generally harder to view the screen outside, and the eyes tend to tire from the black background.
Simply not worth it for the additional hour or two at most of battery life.
thesimulacre said:
It seems strange that a screen that could, if properly integrated with small aesthetic changes in the software, extend dramatically the battery life of this device is being asked more and more (with every update) to energize and illuminate as many pixels with 100% white as possible. It is maddening to me. When we add into the mix the non-replaceable battery, the whole thing starts to reek of planned obsolescence.
I would like to give motorola the benefit of the doubt, and imagine that the software developers in charge of the texting, dialer, and contacts truly have our eyes and sensibilities at heart, but it is difficult.
Thank you to all developers, including those who created this very app, who have followed in the footsteps of blackle (or without any external inspiration) and afforded the end user a simple switch in a settings dialogue somewhere.
I am assuming that at some point another software update will happen for this otherwise amazing phone. What are the options for communicating the desire for such a change to those rolling out 4.4.next? Whose skirt do I tug on? I have seen a LOT of similar sentiment. Also, should the ability to root an at&t '58 ever come to light, are there any ROMs that are skinned in darkness? Oh wait, I know, UTSF.
I feel better just talking about it. Thanks.
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Well you could have just said I want the choice to change all light themes to dark to save battery. Wow, did that all in one sentence LOL sorry had to be a smart ass. I do agree I prefer black especially at night even on a low setting it is blinding.
I like the black/blue look mainly because it looks more high tech than all the white nonsense of KitKat. That's why my X is still on 4.2.2.
bigv5150 said:
Well you could have just said I want the choice to change all light themes to dark to save battery. Wow, did that all in one sentence LOL sorry had to be a smart ass. I do agree I prefer black especially at night even on a low setting it is blinding.
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Brevity is not my strong suit.
The search function brought me to a cyanogenmod version of the texting that, with a little defaults finegeling, brought me back the old black n blue, which I also like better.
I think that without the ability to change permissions, though, the contacts and dialer are out of reach.
If you like black and blue,I'm sure there are forums for that.
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I like the black/blue look mainly because it looks more high tech than all the white nonsense of KitKat. That's why my X is still on 4.2.2.
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That's absolutey ridiculous. You are missing out on so many Motorola updates not to mention android itself by staying on jelly bean. I don't even
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rocketsaucev2 said:
That's absolutey ridiculous. You are missing out on so many Motorola updates not to mention android itself by staying on jelly bean. I don't even
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I have a Nexus 5 as well, so I do have a phone that is running the latest and greatest. I know what I am missing out on, and it's not much as far as I'm concerned. For me, my Moto X is perfect. It does everything I need it to, the way I need it to so there is absolutely no reason for me to update it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I'm not one of those guys who has to have the latest software on everything. My MacBook Pro is still on Snow Leopard, my iPad Mini Retina is on iOS 7, and again, my X is on 4.2.2. Heck, even my 2013 Nexus 7 is still on Jelly Bean. I find something that works, and I stick with it.
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I have a Nexus 5 as well, so I do have a phone that is running the latest and greatest. I know what I am missing out on, and it's not much as far as I'm concerned. For me, my Moto X is perfect. It does everything I need it to, the way I need it to so there is absolutely no reason for me to update it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I'm not one of those guys who has to have the latest software on everything. My MacBook Pro is still on Snow Leopard, my iPad Mini Retina is on iOS 7, and again, my X is on 4.2.2. Heck, even my 2013 Nexus 7 is still on Jelly Bean. I find something that works, and I stick with it.
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Not just the 'latest and greatest'. If updates to the Motorola features on the Moto X are not much as far as your concerned then that defeats the purpose of owning the Moto X. They haven't fixed anything that was broken, they've made them better. I guess you couldn't know what you are missing because you have made the puzzling decision to willingly stagnate your device ?
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Not just the 'latest and greatest'. If updates to the Motorola features on the Moto X are not much as far as your concerned then that defeats the purpose of owning the Moto X. They haven't fixed anything that was broken, they've made them better. I guess you couldn't know what you are missing because you have made the puzzling decision to willingly stagnate your device ?
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As I said, the features I use work perfectly for me. I don't need anything else from my X besides what I'm already getting from it. Trust me, I know what I'm doing.
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As I said, the features I use work perfectly for me. I don't need anything else from my X besides what I'm already getting from it. Trust me, I know what I'm doing.
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The software you are running is inferior
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The software you are running is inferior
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Lol! My thoughts exactly! ? Trust me I know what I'm doing
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Hello LG G5 users , feel free to talk here about anything related to the LG G5 :good:
Thread Rules
1. Respect the others
2. This is an LG G5 thread , do not talk about any other LG phone here.
3. Use appropriate langage.
4. And of course , respect xda rules.
So what do you think about this LG phone ?
Hi guys , thread opened thanks to @KennyG123 , now that the G5 is out and available for sale feel free to share your experience in this discussion thread.
I will update it later with infos , reviews , battery tests..etc.
Enjoy
This is my first impression of the G5 and I'm sure once the stock and custom roms start rolling out I will have a much better experience with my phone. I picked up my new LG G5 a hour ago from my local Sprint retailer and I have already run into a few problems that kind of bother me about the phone. I switched from my Nexus 6 to this phone and I would have to say I do enjoy the feel of the phone and the fact of it being smaller and easier to hold. This is the only good thing I have really noticed about the phone so far though. The volume rocker on the left side of the phone seems very strange and would be much more ergonomic with it remaining on the back or on the right side to be easily accessible with the thumb. The G5 does not have an app drawer with the current software even though there were leaks saying that they were actually going to end up adding the app drawer for this phone. The software seems as if it went for a more Apple style design with a more vivid color scheme. I ended up looking through some of the apps and there are advertisements in the voicemail app which just seems wrong. I have already ran into a bug which should be expected with any new release of a phone of course and this bug happens when I double tap on a notification on the lock screen it locks the screen instead of opening the application which I really hope wasn't the intended purpose. So far the phone isn't as great as I expected it to be.
@CorruptProfile Thank you very much sir for this first well detailed feedback.
How about other things like the camera , performance ( if you tried any intensive game ) ? Is it buttery smooth or LG 5.0 UX suffer from lags ?
CorruptProfile said:
This is my first impression of the G5 and I'm sure once the stock and custom roms start rolling out I will have a much better experience with my phone. I picked up my new LG G5 a hour ago from my local Sprint retailer and I have already run into a few problems that kind of bother me about the phone. I switched from my Nexus 6 to this phone and I would have to say I do enjoy the feel of the phone and the fact of it being smaller and easier to hold. This is the only good thing I have really noticed about the phone so far though. The volume rocker on the left side of the phone seems very strange and would be much more ergonomic with it remaining on the back or on the right side to be easily accessible with the thumb. The G5 does not have an app drawer with the current software even though there were leaks saying that they were actually going to end up adding the app drawer for this phone. The software seems as if it went for a more Apple style design with a more vivid color scheme. I ended up looking through some of the apps and there are advertisements in the voicemail app which just seems wrong. I have already ran into a bug which should be expected with any new release of a phone of course and this bug happens when I double tap on a notification on the lock screen it locks the screen instead of opening the application which I really hope wasn't the intended purpose. So far the phone isn't as great as I expected it to be.
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Have you checked right? T-Mobile users said that the app drawer is there, like seen in the GUI Official Video (not a leek)
Killua96 said:
Have you checked right? T-Mobile users said that the app drawer is there, like seen in the GUI Official Video (not a leek)
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It is there if you use easy mode on your launcher as far as i know.
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It is there if you use easy mode on your launcher as far as i know.
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Nope, there is a third option shown in the UX 5.0 video and confirmed by T-Mobile users
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk8Zs3Mlbcs
Look at 2:19
I only really play Clash of Clans as far as game intensive on my phone and it ran very smoothly for the little bit that I was on it. The camera is far superior to any phone I have had in the past and the quality is great. The option for the regular launcher with an app drawer does not exist on my device which is no problem since I do not like the launcher in general and the Google Now Launcher is far superior to LG's. The biggest problem I have started to see with the device now is the fact the battery is weak as can be. I'm not sure if there isn't enough data collected yet to give an accurate estimate on how long the battery will last. I took the first screenshot of the battery usage before I used any high usage applications and it already was showing that my phone would last an hour and 47 minutes when it was at 41%. I would add screenshots to this but, I don't have over 10 posts yet so that isn't possible so I sent them to @Soufiansky so he can post them instead.
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I only really play Clash of Clans as far as game intensive on my phone and it ran very smoothly for the little bit that I was on it. The camera is far superior to any phone I have had in the past and the quality is great. The option for the regular launcher with an app drawer does not exist on my device which is no problem since I do not like the launcher in general and the Google Now Launcher is far superior to LG's. The biggest problem I have started to see with the device now is the fact the battery is weak as can be. I'm not sure if there isn't enough data collected yet to give an accurate estimate on how long the battery will last. I took the first screenshot of the battery usage before I used any high usage applications and it already was showing that my phone would last an hour and 47 minutes when it was at 41%. I would add screenshots to this but, I don't have over 10 posts yet so that isn't possible so I sent them to @Soufiansky so he can post them instead.
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Thank you again for the feedback , when i come back home i will post the links you send me in pm
Thanks to @CorruptProfile
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How's the phone size?
I'd be coming from the Nexus 6 which is like a phablet, so I want to know how it feels in the hand?
Mew351 said:
How's the phone size?
I'd be coming from the Nexus 6 which is like a phablet, so I want to know how it feels in the hand?
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It is 5.3" , way smaller than the huge Nexus 6.
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It is 5.3" , way smaller than the huge Nexus 6.
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I was going to get the S7 Edge but it's not rootable, so it is a huge deterrent for me
Mew351 said:
I was going to get the S7 Edge but it's not rootable, so it is a huge deterrent for me
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You can wait for the M10 , and for root it will come one day , patience
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You can wait for the M10 , and for root it will come one day , patience
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The M10 is waayyyyy too small for me ;/
Mew351 said:
How's the phone size?
I'd be coming from the Nexus 6 which is like a phablet, so I want to know how it feels in the hand?
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I came from the Nexus 6 as well and honestly I like the size of the G5 it is smaller but not too small in the hand where it feels like you are holding nothing.
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The M10 is waayyyyy too small for me ;/
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Note 5 ? Nexus 6P ? We're going in an off topic here...
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I came from the Nexus 6 as well and honestly I like the size of the G5 it is smaller but not too small in the hand where it feels like you are holding nothing.
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What about the module thing ? I saw a lot of issues about it these days
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I don't own a module and I don't really see the purpose of owning one to be completely honest. It's basically just buying add-ons if you prefer having them or not. I enjoy having the naked look of a sleek looking phone without having a bunch of stuff all over it. It really comes down to the person if they want the parts or not and personally I don't the parts won't make the phone any worse and if the modules really just fail then it won't have any overall effect on the performance of the phone itself.
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I don't own a module and I don't really see the purpose of owning one to be completely honest. It's basically just buying add-ons if you prefer having them or not. I enjoy having the naked look of a sleek looking phone without having a bunch of stuff all over it. It really comes down to the person if they want the parts or not and personally I don't the parts won't make the phone any worse and if the modules really just fail then it won't have any overall effect on the performance of the phone itself.
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No i was talking about the stock battery module , you haven't faced any issue ? Because some people were reporting bad screen colors reproduction next to the module , others said it started taking off....etc.
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