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Has anyone the regulatory notice of the device ? In the quick start guide, it is written that can be downloaded from
the zuk.hk website ...
Or we should find it the menu Settings->About the phone->Regulatory notice, but that menu does not exists ...
Does anyone know the official SAR ratings for body & head ?
I would like to know about the SAR too...
I just got the following informations per email from zuk.hk support :
"Max measured SAR value(body-worn): 0.406w/kg @15mm(10g)
Max measured SAR value(head): 0.305W/kg(10g)
Max reported SAR value on simultanenous transmission: 0.504(10g)"
I am now waiting for the regulatory notice for Europe.
Does someone in the USA have the regulatory notice with the FCC certification. Device should also have an FCC ID in that country.
If you sell a smartphone in EU, you need SAR under 1,5 W/kg.
No metal uniybody means good SAR, like Galaxy S4, S5, Note 3....
It is sure that plastic is better than aluminium (Faraday effect), but there are also phones
made completely with plastic and with high SAR : the Alcatel OneTouch Idol 3 (4.7") has a SAR (EU) of 1.277W/kg (head) and 0.659W/kg (body) ...
*#07# should work to get the SAR of the phone, but it does
Not work
Seems that the Electromagnetic radiation emitted by Huawei Honor 8 is 1.5 watt per kg, which is the highest among all smartphones currently.
The rank of high electromagnetic radiation with some other mobiles (from major to minor) are listed below:
1) Huawei Honor 8 is (1.5 watt per kg)
2) iPhone 7 (1.38 watts per kg)
3) Huawei Honor 5C (1.14 watts per kg)
4) Huawei Honor 7 (1.13 watts per kg)
5) iPhone 6S (0.87 watts per kg)
The list with the smartphones that emit less radiation (from minor to major) is the following one:
1. Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (0.264)
2. Lenovo Moto Z (0.304)
3. OnePlus 3 (0.394)
4. Samsung Galaxy S7 (0.406)
5. Huawei Honor 5X (0.560)
From the list, we can see that Honor 8 is having High SAR rate and honor 5X having Low SAR rate in Honor brands.
Hope so this information will be useful before buying your mobile.
High SAR rate is due that the signal receiving capacity of the device is High.
Source - http://www.phonandroid.com/sante-ondes-quels-smartphones-presentent-das-plus-eleve-plus-faible.html
That's a meaningless set of statistics and the article doesn't give any indication of the methodology.
1) A mobile phone is an RF transmitter, running within a given set of statutorily fixed limits. An iPhone 7 will have broadly the same transmit power as any other. The biggest factor will be network conditions, as the phone ramps down it's transmit power as low as it can, so the worse the path to the cell tower, the more power the phone will use.
2) Watts/kg is a good metric for categorising cyclists, useless for mobile phones, unless you have some very peculiar requirements.
The article linked appears to be discussing the long-discredited health effects of mobile phones. Even if there were anything in it, the type of modern mobile phone would be irrelevant - the difference in transmission paths into the head would be in the order of millimeters and the actual transmission power would be almost identical.
multijoy said:
That's a meaningless set of statistics and the article doesn't give any indication of the methodology.
1) A mobile phone is an RF transmitter, running within a given set of statutorily fixed limits. An iPhone 7 will have broadly the same transmit power as any other. The biggest factor will be network conditions, as the phone ramps down it's transmit power as low as it can, so the worse the path to the cell tower, the more power the phone will use.
2) Watts/kg is a good metric for categorising cyclists, useless for mobile phones, unless you have some very peculiar requirements.
The article linked appears to be discussing the long-discredited health effects of mobile phones. Even if there were anything in it, the type of modern mobile phone would be irrelevant - the difference in transmission paths into the head would be in the order of millimeters and the actual transmission power would be almost identical.
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Does it mean that if the path to the cell tower is worst, then Honor 8 emits more radiation than others?
And if there is No use with the SAR value, why it is regulated ? Then for what purpose that information is used for?
I pretty much use Google Hangouts over WiFi, I only take incoming text and calls over T-Mo WiFi, which of course isn't available on the Honor 8 yet.
Is this bad then?
jkccl9 said:
Is this bad then?
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It's how much radiation energy get absorbs into your cranium when you talk on the phone. Or potentially to your balls while the phone is in your pocket.
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It depends from the connection type and band used.
In my country we have LTE band 7, according to the doc it's just 0.11
Anyway, it's the best to keep the phone as far from your body(especially important organs) as possible.
eksasol said:
It's how much radiation energy get absorbs into your cranium when you talk on the phone. Or potentially to your balls while the phone is in your pocket.
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yalokiy said:
It depends from the connection type and band used.
In my country we have LTE band 7, according to the doc it's just 0.11
Anyway, it's the best to keep the phone as further from your body(especially important organs) as possible.
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Those numbers aren't bad at all for B2, B4, or B12. All of which T-Mobile use. If you're on AT&T, your brain might melt a little bit. B5 and B17 numbers are really high!
Ascertion said:
Those numbers aren't bad at all for B2, B4, or B12. All of which T-Mobile use. If you're on AT&T, your brain might melt a little bit. B5 and B17 numbers are really high!
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In India JIO uses Band 5.
And I think Indian Honor 6 variant supports only Band 5 sadly.
i cant say that's wrong but i can say since i receive the phone yesterday i cant feel its a value phone with the price i payed !.. even the finger touch into the back feels cheap !..
i am disappointed !
Romiui said:
i cant say that's wrong but i can say since i receive the phone yesterday i cant feel its a value phone with the price i payed !.. even the finger touch into the back feels cheap !..
i am disappointed !
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Wrong thread. OP has nothing to do how you feel about your phone.
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This is pretty meaningless:
1. Unless you hold your phone exactly like the official test setup is, your result will be wildly different.
2. The highest level allowed is an order of magnitude than the lowest level thought to pose any possible risk.
Just FYI
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United States: the FCC requires that phones sold have a SAR level at or below 1.6 watts per kilogram (W/kg) taken over the volume containing a mass of 1 gram of tissue that is absorbing the most signal.
European Union: CENELEC specify SAR limits within the EU, following IEC standards. For mobile phones, and other such hand-held devices, the SAR limit is 2 W/kg averaged over the 10 g of tissue absorbing the most signal (IEC 62209-1).
India: switched from the EU limits to the US limits for mobile handsets in 2012. Unlike the US, India will not rely solely on SAR measurements provided by manufacturers; random compliance tests are done by a government-run Telecommunication Engineering Center (TEC) SAR Laboratory on handsets and 10% of towers. All handsets must have a hands free mode.[4]
SAR values are heavily dependent on the size of the averaging volume. Without information about the averaging volume used, comparisons between different measurements cannot be made. Thus, the European 10-gram ratings should be compared among themselves, and the American 1-gram ratings should only be compared among themselves.
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So it looks like the Honor 8 SAR ratings are within the limits prescribed in various parts of the world. Equally importantly, as noted above just quoting a SAR number by itself without reference to the method used for measuring it is quite meaningless for comparing one SAR rating with another!
vsriram92 said:
Seems that the Electromagnetic radiation emitted by Huawei Honor 8 is 1.5 watt per kg, which is the highest among all smartphones currently.
The rank of high electromagnetic radiation with some other mobiles (from major to minor) are listed below:
1) Huawei Honor 8 is (1.5 watt per kg)
2) iPhone 7 (1.38 watts per kg)
3) Huawei Honor 5C (1.14 watts per kg)
4) Huawei Honor 7 (1.13 watts per kg)
5) iPhone 6S (0.87 watts per kg)
The list with the smartphones that emit less radiation (from minor to major) is the following one:
1. Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge (0.264)
2. Lenovo Moto Z (0.304)
3. OnePlus 3 (0.394)
4. Samsung Galaxy S7 (0.406)
5. Huawei Honor 5X (0.560)
From the list, we can see that Honor 8 is having High SAR rate and honor 5X having Low SAR rate in Honor brands.
Hope so this information will be useful before buying your mobile.
High SAR rate is due that the signal receiving capacity of the device is High.
Source - http://www.phonandroid.com/sante-ondes-quels-smartphones-presentent-das-plus-eleve-plus-faible.html
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I guess if use a very heavy case, I can reduce the SAR to a much lower level, or should the weight of the case not be counted?
Romiui said:
i cant say that's wrong but i can say since i receive the phone yesterday i cant feel its a value phone with the price i payed !.. even the finger touch into the back feels cheap !..
i am disappointed !
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You are paid to say a lot's of bad things about this phone ?! Ok! We all got the point,you dont like the phone,you sold it and thats all. Over!
lejaune said:
I guess if use a very heavy case, I can reduce the SAR to a much lower level, or should the weight of the case not be counted?
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It might be depending upon the case, As the distance increases between us and phone.
Hey,
Comments on the fact this phone has a SAR value of 1.75? which is high
thinking of selling it soon.
zobredas said:
Hey,
Comments on the fact this phone has a SAR value of 1.75? which is high
thinking of selling it soon.
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That' s true that Mi a1 is one with the highest SAR value.
Anyway, take a look to this:
https://www.pcsteps.com/9891-what-is-sar-value-cell-phone-is-it-dangerous/
expecially the chapter "Is a high SAR value dangerous?"
and "Do Chinese phones have a higher SAR value?"
0lorenzo said:
That' s true that Mi a1 is one with the highest SAR value.
Anyway, take a look to this:
https://www.pcsteps.com/9891-what-is-sar-value-cell-phone-is-it-dangerous/
expecially the chapter "Is a high SAR value dangerous?"
and "Do Chinese phones have a higher SAR value?"
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Great article.
Dispite the unknown about what radiation doest to us, especially phone's, it's definily better to have a lower sar value phone..
zobredas said:
Great article.
Dispite the unknown about what radiation doest to us, especially phone's, it's definily better to have a lower sar value phone..
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I agree with you, it is bad to unknown the effects of radiation... What if scientists discover that a 1.0 value is deadly and will cause tumor 100%? We are all f***ed
Enjoy life:fingers-crossed:
It looks like Newly launched Realme 2 Pro have a Underclocked QC SD 660 or Overclocked QC SD 636. I checked Mi A2 (SD 660) , Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 ( SD 636) and Realme 2 Pro ( SD660) in CPU-Z and AIDA64 Apps.
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It looks like Newly launched Realme 2 Pro have a Underclocked QC SD 660 or Overclocked QC SD 636. I checked Mi A2 (SD 660) , Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 ( SD 636) and Realme 2 Pro ( SD660) in CPU-Z and AIDA64 Apps.
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Do not fully trust the information provided in 3rd party apps or other websites. Please refer official websites of each particular phone to get the TRUE and CORRECT information about the processors used in them and the clock speeds that they are set to.
The SD660 used in Realme 2 Pro has a ( Original ) clock speed of 2.2 Ghz when Qualcomm makes that chip but the OEM ( Phone Manufacturer ) can tweak and change the clock speeds of the chip as per their strategy when using it in any phone.
For Realme 2 Pro the manufacturer Realme Mobiles has decided to clock the SD660 processor at 2 Ghz. That can be for various reasons depending on Software Optimizations, Battery Optimizations, Or maybe Just for No Reason :silly:
The point is, for an average user or for any user for that matter, it does not matter much. Plus there is a dedicated Artificial Intelligence Engine ( AIE ) which is not present in SD636.
Nowadays the term "Artificial Intelligence" is so wrongly used by every phone manufacturer to promote and sell their new phones to people who do not have any idea about AI in a smartphone. Fact is, there are only FEW countable chips in this world who ACTUALLY have a dedicated AI Engine in them and SD660 which is used in Realme 2 Pro has that Real AI in it.
So....
fully working poco f1 with all bootloader unlocking this that everything
For me the real benefit of SD660 over SD636 is the GPU, which is about 30% faster and that matters A LOT.
nitish159 said:
For me the real benefit of SD660 over SD636 is the GPU, which is about 30% faster and that matters A LOT.
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Right. GPU is a very important aspect in todays world where we have high end graphics games and apps. And even slight upgrade in GPU makes a notable difference :good:
Hi,
Then Whats the idea about NPU chip in coming new chipset series? Are they both same or is there any big difference?
Thanks!
Looks like with K30 Ultra (Global Version) we will get a better F2 Pro.
+ 120Hz Amoled & 240Hz touch sampling rate
+ stereo speaker
+ Dual-5G and for sure not only N77/N78
+ AV1 video playback
+ f/1.7
+ 6/128GB 1999RMB 245EUR 290USD
+ 8/512GB 2699RMB 331EUR 390USD
- UFS 2.1
- LPDDR4x
- 4500 mAh
- no 3.5mm anymore
- no custom roms because of MediaTek
- "only" ~530k AnTuTu
- China-Version without B20 800 MHz 4G and no N28 5G
With -280mAh and no 3.5mm we maybe get great speaker. The cheap trash F2 Pro mono speaker is for me already enough to switch.
Will you switch, if we get a global version?
i'm using redmi k30 pro (china version), i like the 120Hz screen refresh rate, but i don't like MTK cpu, not enough to change from k30 pro with 865 SoC
mydarhieu97 said:
i'm using redmi k30 pro (china version), i like the 120Hz screen refresh rate, but i don't like MTK cpu, not enough to change from k30 pro with 865 SoC
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Agree, they should've made it with at least an SD7xx chipset
I'm gonna stick with my trash
its the same screen ? 120hz its software ?
It will also be cheaper.
Linuxkek said:
- 4500 mAh
- no 3.5mm anymore
- no custom roms because of MediaTek
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These three negatives are the largest turn off for me. Especially the MediaTek CPU. It makes installing roms and updates a nightmare from personal experience. Definitely not going switch because of just a bit better screen and speaker.
SHAY820 said:
its the same screen ? 120hz its software ?
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Not the same screen. Ours is 6.67 , ultra is 6.77
73R3WY said:
Agree, they should've made it with at least an SD7xx chipset
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The Mediatek 1000+ is almost a 855+ with >530.000 Antutu score
MediaTek CPU no thanks ?
No MediaTek trash for me. thanks.
I refused to ever buy another mediatek phone , would rather stick with 60hz and love having 3mm jack . The f2 so far is superb .
All I need is root and magisk, I dont care about 3rd party roms
Gonna pick SD865 than a crappy Dimensity 1000+ any day.
If it's 2018-2019, Sure I'd pick dimensity 1000+ but idk since xiaomi eu does not support mtk devices and a chance of bricking an mtk device is there but u can use edl mode but meh.
and headphone jack over 120hz any day. you do get roms on both. it's just the situation right now and the sources we're kinda borked early on for the K30 pro and only a few has their hands on the device. let's see but a big no for the mtk device.
F2 Pro/K30 Pro/Zomm wins for me.
What I don't understand is that need of Xiaomi for flooding the market with so many devices which are apparently almost the same. Are they imitating Samsung?
I'm also of the "trash speaker - headphones jack - 865" club.
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What I don't understand is that need of Xiaomi for flooding the market with so many devices which are apparently almost the same. Are they imitating Samsung?
I'm also of the "trash speaker - headphones jack - 865" club.
Samsund did that, Huawei did that and now Xiaomi do it. Thats why
Linuxkek said:
Looks like with K30 Ultra (Global Version) we will get a better F2 Pro.
+ 120Hz Amoled & 240Hz touch sampling rate
+ stereo speaker
+ Dual-5G and for sure not only N77/N78
+ AV1 video playback
+ f/1.7
+ 6/128GB 1999RMB 245EUR 290USD
+ 8/512GB 2699RMB 331EUR 390USD
- UFS 2.1
- LPDDR4x
- 4500 mAh
- no 3.5mm anymore
- no custom roms because of MediaTek
- "only" ~530k AnTuTu
- China-Version without B20 800 MHz 4G and no N28 5G
With -280mAh and no 3.5mm we maybe get great speaker. The cheap trash F2 Pro mono speaker is for me already enough to switch.
Will you switch, if we get a global version?
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Not custom ROMs on f2 pro so that's equal.
And mediatek dimension 1000+ it's a beast and cheaper than the sd865. So for me is a win win in all aspects.
Dimensity 1000+ lower performance are not an issue comparing to SD865, even better with its integrated 5G modem. However, lack of Mediatek's technical documentation and development support are the biggest concern. Even with 120Hz display, thanks, but no thanks Xiaomi.
It's only an option if Xiaomi releases the whole Kernel. Hopefully it would be easier to handle than Redmi Note 8 Pro. And we need a global version first because of some required frequencies.
Maybe... Madiatek will finally unleashed the (devs) horses...
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