Underclocked Snapdragon 660 or Overclocked Snapdragon 636 on Realme 2 Pro? - Realme 2 pro Questions & Answers

It looks like Newly launched Realme 2 Pro have a Underclocked QC SD 660 or Overclocked QC SD 636. I checked Mi A2 (SD 660) , Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 ( SD 636) and Realme 2 Pro ( SD660) in CPU-Z and AIDA64 Apps.

msfbeast said:
It looks like Newly launched Realme 2 Pro have a Underclocked QC SD 660 or Overclocked QC SD 636. I checked Mi A2 (SD 660) , Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1 ( SD 636) and Realme 2 Pro ( SD660) in CPU-Z and AIDA64 Apps.
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Do not fully trust the information provided in 3rd party apps or other websites. Please refer official websites of each particular phone to get the TRUE and CORRECT information about the processors used in them and the clock speeds that they are set to.
The SD660 used in Realme 2 Pro has a ( Original ) clock speed of 2.2 Ghz when Qualcomm makes that chip but the OEM ( Phone Manufacturer ) can tweak and change the clock speeds of the chip as per their strategy when using it in any phone.
For Realme 2 Pro the manufacturer Realme Mobiles has decided to clock the SD660 processor at 2 Ghz. That can be for various reasons depending on Software Optimizations, Battery Optimizations, Or maybe Just for No Reason :silly:
The point is, for an average user or for any user for that matter, it does not matter much. Plus there is a dedicated Artificial Intelligence Engine ( AIE ) which is not present in SD636.
Nowadays the term "Artificial Intelligence" is so wrongly used by every phone manufacturer to promote and sell their new phones to people who do not have any idea about AI in a smartphone. Fact is, there are only FEW countable chips in this world who ACTUALLY have a dedicated AI Engine in them and SD660 which is used in Realme 2 Pro has that Real AI in it.
So....

fully working poco f1 with all bootloader unlocking this that everything

For me the real benefit of SD660 over SD636 is the GPU, which is about 30% faster and that matters A LOT.

nitish159 said:
For me the real benefit of SD660 over SD636 is the GPU, which is about 30% faster and that matters A LOT.
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Right. GPU is a very important aspect in todays world where we have high end graphics games and apps. And even slight upgrade in GPU makes a notable difference :good:

Hi,
Then Whats the idea about NPU chip in coming new chipset series? Are they both same or is there any big difference?
Thanks!

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redmi note 3 pro of MI note

Hi all, I'm considering buying redmi note 3 pro(3gb/32gb) or MI note bamboo(3gb/16gb) for usd 40 less. I used my phone mostly for work and Web browsing, anyone with both devices please give your opinions. Thanks.
teddymild said:
Hi all, I'm considering buying redmi note 3 pro(3gb/32gb) or MI note bamboo(3gb/16gb) for usd 40 less. I used my phone mostly for work and Web browsing, anyone with both devices please give your opinions. Thanks.
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redmi note 3 pro - it's newer, better hardware, snapdragon 650 (6 cores, gpu adreno 510 @ 600mhz, 64bit, better mobile support, 16mp camera, bigger battery - 4000 mah)
though don't get me wrong the snapdragon 801 that's in the MI note bamboo is nice but that cpu pretty outdated now, it's only 32bit, 4 cores, gpu adreno 330 @ 400mhz - and that cpu is a power hog, so I doubt a 3000mah battery would last long with that processor, it's known to run hot and be power hungry. -
I also have a device with the snapdragon 800, I can say the snapdragon 650 in the rn3p gives a much smoother web-browsing experience.
Snapdragon 801
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/801
Snapdragon 650
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/650
Thank you for your elaborate answer, really appreciated.

Honor 5C vs Xiaomi Redmi Note 3

How can u compare between the Honor 5C vs Redmi Note 3? Basically the much talk about is the processors of both the devices. So, how is Kirin 650 compared with Snapdragon 650? Though in Antutu benchmark Kirin 650 loses badly to Snapdragon 650. So the point is how both the devices perform in day to day life.
Shubho20 said:
How can u compare between the Honor 5C vs Redmi Note 3? Basically the much talk about is the processors of both the devices. So, how is Kirin 650 compared with Snapdragon 650? Though in Antutu benchmark Kirin 650 loses badly to Snapdragon 650. So the point is how both the devices perform in day to day life.
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go for redmi, better 3rd party rom support, multiple youtube reviews on the redmi explaining the benefits
Redmi Note 3 hands down.
Development wise redmi note 3 is best. How about performace? Btw i own a honor 5c nd quite happy with it but not with the development.
Shubho20 said:
Development wise redmi note 3 is best. How about performace? Btw i own a honor 5c nd quite happy with it but not with the development.
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Performance varies on many levels. For example, phone X running with SDxxx processor in AOSP can perform better than phone Y with the same processor in EMUI.
i would still go with note 3 if the performance is slightly worse, as it supports lots of roms. and games performance is better on snapdragons

Mi MAX 2 going to be launched. What do you think guys?

http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_max_2-8582.php
no improvement - 6.44" (1080x1920 pixels)
no improvement - 12MP (2160p)
good improvement - 6GB RAM (Snapdragon 626)
slight imprvement - 5000mAh (Li-Ion)
The SOC feels like a downgrade
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big improvement - NFC
Some rumors about a SD 660 chipset. Otherwise I dont know how the 626 compares to 650. Is the camera alot better I might be interested anyway. My wife can get my mi max 1 then
The camera will be a great improvement (Sony imx 378)
keithleyson said:
The SOC feels like a downgrade
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Yeah, if that really is the SoC with 3 year old A53-s, its a downgrade.
Keep the price at around $300 for the 128gb version and it will be a steal even with a slightly better soc and camera.
SD626 isn't as good as SD652/3 but it has best endurance. With proper optimization, it may lead this area. SD626+5000mAh is definitely much much better.
Also these guys are downgrading SOC to keep costs same. See the way Redmi Note series did.
bluheart said:
SD626 isn't as good as SD652/3 but it has best endurance. With proper optimization, it may lead this area. SD626+5000mAh is definitely much much better.
Also these guys are downgrading SOC to keep costs same. See the way Redmi Note series did.
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It's not about price, it's about supply... Xiaomi is too nobady to get on the 660 wagon. Even bigger and more reputable players on the market have hard times to secure 660 from Qualcomm in quantities they need.
Yes! That's the biggest point, true.
The topper here is SD625+5000mAh phone.
The 626 will get better battery life at the expense of performance, like the Redmi Note 3 vs Note 4 Snapdragon variants. I guess most people won't be able to tell the performance difference but they can definitely tell battery life changes.
The great thing about the 650/652 is that it could be really fast if you wanted it or really efficient. The 615 and 626 don't have that ability because they don't have powerful A72 cores. The 660 would be the best but I doubt that will make it into a lot of phones as it could jeopardize flagship sales... Who needs the latest 8xx SoC when a 66x at half the price is good enough?
I have the 650 soc Max, using it as a mini tablet at home. If the Max 2 have richer duel speakers; better contrast screen and 660 soc. I will likely upgrade, otherwise the current Max is good enough.
Xiaomi Mi Max 2 has been released.
Xiaomi Mi Max 2 Smartphone Main Features:
Display: 6.44 Inch, 1920 x 1080
CPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon 625 Octa Core
RAM + ROM: 4GB RAM + 128GB/64GB ROM
Camera: 5.0MP front camera + 12.0MP 5 element lens, f/2.0 aperture back camera
No Snapdragon 660, only 625
Battery is 5300mAh
http://en.miui.com/thread-617857-1-1.html
i can't believe it, snapdragon 650 to 625 is an upgrade???
it's a huge mistake and very disappointing
also i hoped for a better LCD which is the same
Look at the bright side... No need to upgrade....
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nijel8 said:
Look at the bright side... No need to upgrade....
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Absolutely true Buddy! Let's upgrade next year when Max3 with possibly SD770 will be out.
Beat to attract new comers to huge screen phones not for an upgrade.
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/22103...-1080p-display-5300mah-battery-announced.html
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Relieved to read the specs of this phone. No need to upgrade if you own a Max. On the contrary, buy one when the priced fall a bit as the Max 2 is released. It has a better SoC.

SDM 660 or 636??

Hello
i just wanna ask and explain to me
this phone use sdm 660 or 636?
on 636 they use adreno 509 and this phone use 512 which used on 660
and i check more and more this phone use board sdm660
check on cpu z this phone use sd 660 and soc name is 636?
so which one is right? or maybe it happend on everyphone with sd 636? like on redmi note 5?
thanks ???
This phone should have SD636 like Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 pro.
kkq29 said:
Hello
i just wanna ask and explain to me
this phone use sdm 660 or 636?
on 636 they use adreno 509 and this phone use 512 which used on 660
and i check more and more this phone use board sdm660
check on cpu z this phone use sd 660 and soc name is 636?
so which one is right? or maybe it happend on everyphone with sd 636? like on redmi note 5?
thanks
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This device uses Adreno 509,and not Adreno 512.CPU-Z may not be correct everytime.
No i check in every benchmark app it uses 512 lol
It is adreno 509. SD636 is the lower binning version of SD660, thus still using the same board platform. Some has said that asus intentionally leaving the build.prop or some GPU reading to adreno 512, so they can use set the higher setting in certain Game which detect available graphic quality based on GPU model. It is kinda like using GLTools from the beginning and set the GPU detection to adreno 512. PUBG maybe is one of them. In RN5P (or RN5 China), they only have the balance setting. But in Pro M1, there is HD + HFR setting (Ultra HD also available, but more framedrop). There are people who can get HD setting on RN5P, but they have to edit the game resource.
I too see that it's adreno 512 on my Asus Zenfone Max Pro M1.

What is comparable to Mi 9T specwise?

Hi all,
At the moment I have Xiaomi mi A2, and I am considering to get the Mi 9T as my new phone.
It would be in my opinion a better value upgrade as I would get NFC, AMOLED screen and all screen experience with the pop out camera.
However I was wondering what is comparable to the Mi 9T Specwise) as I mentioned NFC and AMOLED are a must and a bit smaller size than mi A2.
Pop out camera is not essential but would rather have that than the punch hole( like SG S10 or S10e)
Thanks in advance for comments and/or suggestions
Poco X2? To be fair, depending where you live, you won't get a better value phone than this. Any other phone with this specs would cost 20% to 30% more than the 9t. I purchased the phone 2 weeks ago and I have been loving it ever since. There are a couple of things I miss from my Poco F1, such as the high-end SoC, but the amoled display and the perfectly cut-out display (no holes or notches) make up for it.
CheyTac-12 said:
Poco X2? To be fair, depending where you live, you won't get a better value phone than this. Any other phone with this specs would cost 20% to 30% more than the 9t. I purchased the phone 2 weeks ago and I have been loving it ever since. There are a couple of things I miss from my Poco F1, such as the high-end SoC, but the amoled display and the perfectly cut-out display (no holes or notches) make up for it.
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Thanks for your reply. I was actually waiting to see the successor of Poco F1 and I was actually disappointed to see the specs as it has IPS and not AMOLED and no NFC which are a must for me.
Also Poco X2 is bigger than Mi A2 as well as Mi 9t ( I am looking for a smaller size device) I live in Ireland and have an option to go for Samsung S10 or S10e or even the new S20 line up) but as I decided years ago not to buy anything from mobile providers on a contract (contract not being the issue as they give you high end device and you pay it off during your contract).
It is after you have the phone the painful and slow process when you have an issue with your device and have to send it for repair. It's always your fault and not theirs.
For that reason I am always buying phones in a shop or online and not spending more than 300 EUR on it.
CheyTac-12 said:
Poco X2? To be fair, depending where you live, you won't get a better value phone than this. Any other phone with this specs would cost 20% to 30% more than the 9t. I purchased the phone 2 weeks ago and I have been loving it ever since. There are a couple of things I miss from my Poco F1, such as the high-end SoC, but the amoled display and the perfectly cut-out display (no holes or notches) make up for it.
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I actually prefer the midrange Snapdragon 730 above any highend soc because its plenty fast for daily use and very power efficient. This also means the phone doesnt get hot when gaming and therefore doesnt throttle at all ?
Allan_Hun said:
I actually prefer the midrange Snapdragon 730 above any highend soc because its plenty fast for daily use and very power efficient. This also means the phone doesnt get hot when gaming and therefore doesnt throttle at all
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I play PUBG Mobile quite often, and let me tell you, you do miss the high-end SoC. The Adreno 618 can't push 60 fps at full resolution (I'm talking about the GFX tools that modify the game's graphics). My Poco F1 would never ever lag; its gpu is very powerful compared to the Adreno 618. Now, it is true that it doesn't overheat as much and it's more power efficient being a newer SoC. But if raw performance is a must for you, you should look for something with a Snapdragon 845 and above.
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Ellunphant said:
Thanks for your reply. I was actually waiting to see the successor of Poco F1 and I was actually disappointed to see the specs as it has IPS and not AMOLED and no NFC which are a must for me.
Also Poco X2 is bigger than Mi A2 as well as Mi 9t ( I am looking for a smaller size device) I live in Ireland and have an option to go for Samsung S10 or S10e or even the new S20 line up) but as I decided years ago not to buy anything from mobile providers on a contract (contract not being the issue as they give you high end device and you pay it off during your contract).
It is after you have the phone the painful and slow process when you have an issue with your device and have to send it for repair. It's always your fault and not theirs.
For that reason I am always buying phones in a shop or online and not spending more than 300 EUR on it.
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If you want a smaller sized device then you should go for the S10 or S10e. This Mi 9T is not small at all.
CheyTac-12 said:
I play PUBG Mobile quite often, and let me tell you, you do miss the high-end SoC. The Adreno 618 can't push 60 fps at full resolution (I'm talking about the GFX tools that modify the game's graphics). My Poco F1 would never ever lag; its gpu is very powerful compared to the Adreno 618. Now, it is true that it doesn't overheat as much and it's more power efficient being a newer SoC. But if raw performance is a must for you, you should look for something with a Snapdragon 845 and above.
Sure the 845 is faster, but actually not that much... Looking at slingshot extreme 3.1 sustained performance the Snapdragon 730 scores about 3000 while the 845 scores about 3500. So when the 845 heats Up the gfx is only 16% faster.
I do not Play pubg on my mi 9t. If the gaming experience really is that much better on 845 im guessing pubg only hits the adreno gpu hard in short bursts -Or maybe pubg just isnt optimized.
People are diffrent and prioritizes diffrently. Personally I would never trade stellar battery life for relatively modest performance gains.
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Allan_Hun said:
CheyTac-12 said:
I play PUBG Mobile quite often, and let me tell you, you do miss the high-end SoC. The Adreno 618 can't push 60 fps at full resolution (I'm talking about the GFX tools that modify the game's graphics). My Poco F1 would never ever lag; its gpu is very powerful compared to the Adreno 618. Now, it is true that it doesn't overheat as much and it's more power efficient being a newer SoC. But if raw performance is a must for you, you should look for something with a Snapdragon 845 and above.
Sure the 845 is faster, but actually not that much... Looking at slingshot extreme 3.1 sustained performance the Snapdragon 730 scores about 3000 while the 845 scores about 3500. So when the 845 heats Up the gfx is only 16% faster.
I do not Play pubg on my mi 9t. If the gaming experience really is that much better on 845 im guessing pubg only hits the adreno gpu hard in short bursts -Or maybe pubg just isnt optimized.
People are diffrent and prioritizes diffrently. Personally I would never trade stellar battery life for relatively modest performance gains.
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True. I don't game that much on my phone either, but sometimes I do. Years of being a pc gamer have spoiled me into not accepting anything fewer than 60 fps. Mind you, my Poco F1 was heavily modified. I even deleted the thermal files in vendor/etc so the phone would never throttle, no matter how hot it got. I really hoped there would be not much of a difference between the Adreno 630 and the 618. But there is. More than benchmarks it's the real-life usage and performance in games and apps. I play PUBG in the 9t with the exact same graphic settings from my Poco F1, and, while it sure as heck doesn't heat up as much and doesn't drain the battery as quickly, the Adreno 618 is almost always at 99% usage and maximum mhz (I use DevCheck app to check GPU usage during gaming). Sometimes it dips below 50 fps. What's more, whenever a grenade explodes nearby or you are inside a smoke the game lags as hell. This would never happen on my Poco F1. What's more, I used to brag to my friends about the SD 845 performance by maxing out all the settings in the GFX tool and showing them those graphics. The Poco F1 could sustain 45 to 60 fps with those settings. But my phone would get so stupidly hot that I couldn't play like that for more than 3 minutes (with the thermal files disabled, of course). I tried the same with this phone and well... let's just say that it's not very playable.
Anyhow, you sure are right about the tradeoff between efficiency and raw performance. This is why I have a 9T today.
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CheyTac-12 said:
I play PUBG Mobile quite often, and let me tell you, you do miss the high-end SoC. The Adreno 618 can't push 60 fps at full resolution (I'm talking about the GFX tools that modify the game's graphics). My Poco F1 would never ever lag; its gpu is very powerful compared to the Adreno 618. Now, it is true that it doesn't overheat as much and it's more power efficient being a newer SoC. But if raw performance is a must for you, you should look for something with a Snapdragon 845 and above.
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If you want a smaller sized device then you should go for the S10 or S10e. This Mi 9T is not small at all.
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I was comparing Mi 9T vs Mi A2 and comparing the size looks on tjhe paper that Mi 9T seems to be a tad bit smaller 156.7 x 74.3 x 8.8 mm (6.17 x 2.93 x 0.35 in) vs Mi A2 that I have and it's 158.7 x 75.4 x 7.3 mm.
I know it may not be that different in size and you are right that S10 or S10e are smaller especially S10e, even the normal Note 10 is smaller side by side as I compared those 3 samsung models side by side with my Mi A2, and while the camera setup is brilliant on all 3 the punch hole bugs me someway visually as it is visible on screen(maybe I am weird:cyclops and I am willing to risk that with Mi 9T and get a Gcam on it to get better (in some situations pictures) and It wont burn my pocket as Samsung would (buying direct in a shop not trough provider)
I think the Mi 9T Pro is the best value for money with around $100 over the Mi 9T. The Pro has SD855, but you wouldn't notice the difference in normal use, maybe just in gaming.

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