Hey guys,
how is it possible that a SD 636 is faster than a 660 with Android One?
In this article you have different videos that show different Speed Test, and in the last ones, the Note 5 beats the Mi A2:
https://newesc.com/test-velocidad-xiaomi-a2-vs-xiaomi-redmi-note-5/
he-s comparing apples and pears.
whyred has been out for months now, plenty of time for miui for it to get optimizations and improvements (it's also probably the main redmi device that they work on miui10, complete with the new ai engine loading algorithms that learn your usage patters to speed up your phone).
and even without that, any sort of miui vs android one comparisons are irrelevant if you ask me... nobody ever said miui is slow, some just prefer a clean android instead.
laviniu_c said:
he-s comparing apples and pears.
whyred has been out for months now, plenty of time for miui for it to get optimizations and improvements (it's also probably the main redmi device that they work on miui10, complete with the new ai engine loading algorithms that learn your usage patters to speed up your phone).
and even without that, any sort of miui vs android one comparisons are irrelevant if you ask me... nobody ever said miui is slow, some just prefer a clean android instead.
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Every company should launch the best optimized product they can, because the first month is the most important in sells. If you launch a new product that cost more but is not faster than an older one, you are gonna lose customers. Easy.
Beside, the argument i hear a lot of: "With time is gonna be faster", is complete nonsense for new customers. I don't want warranties on the future, if I'm buying something NOW, I want it to be the best NOW.
"nobody ever said miui is slow" that's true, but you can see a lot of youtubers saying that they prefer Android one because is "faster" and "more optimized"
mingogomes said:
Every company should launch the best optimized product they can, because the first month is the most important in sells. If you launch a new product that cost more but is not faster than an older one, you are gonna lose customers. Easy.
Beside, the argument i hear a lot of: "With time is gonna be faster", is complete nonsense for new customers. I don't want warranties on the future, if I'm buying something NOW, I want it to be the best NOW.
"nobody ever said miui is slow" that's true, but you can see a lot of youtubers saying that they prefer Android one because is "faster" and "more optimized"
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i don't think i agree with you that the first month is the most important for sales. and we need to work a bit on the definition of faster. starting apps isn't necessarily the benchmark to use. try running miui for a few weeks, switch to a custom/stable aosp of sorts for another 2 weeks and come back to miui. then decide if a phone is slower or faster on android one versus miui. some people like miui others like android. it's always a matter of preference. i personally couldn't use miui any more after the first time i switched os versions like this. it just felt wrong.
L.E. the storage speed difference could also be down to encryption being on or off on the 2 terminals. or due to the A/B system of the mi a2. there could be services running on the jasmine that the whyred is not running at the moment. it can be that miui is really better optimized to start apps. if your definition of faster is that then get yourself a whyred. it's your choice to make! always remember that!
L.E.2 "I want it to be the best NOW." you know these are all budget-y phones we're talking about, right?
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it can be that miui is really better optimized to start apps. if your definition of faster is that then get yourself a whyred. it's your choice to make!
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but shouldn't it be even possible to use a whyred GSI on jasmine too? it's a treble phone.
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i don't think i agree with you that the first month is the most important for sales. and we need to work a bit on the definition of faster. starting apps isn't necessarily the benchmark to use. try running miui for a few weeks, switch to a custom/stable aosp of sorts for another 2 weeks and come back to miui. then decide if a phone is slower or faster on android one versus miui. some people like miui others like android. it's always a matter of preference. i personally couldn't use miui any more after the first time i switched os versions like this. it just felt wrong.
L.E. the storage speed difference could also be down to encryption being on or off on the 2 terminals. or due to the A/B system of the mi a2. there could be services running on the jasmine that the whyred is not running at the moment. it can be that miui is really better optimized to start apps. if your definition of faster is that then get yourself a whyred. it's your choice to make! always remember that!
L.E.2 "I want it to be the best NOW." you know these are all budget-y phones we're talking about, right?
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Encryption didn't make a difference years ago so I seriously doubt it does nowadays
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but shouldn't it be even possible to use a whyred GSI on jasmine too? it's a treble phone.
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well miui is device dependent (no plans to make a gsi style image that runs on any treble phone. if xiaomi decided to make one it would be pretty awesome though!) so you can;t run the whyred miui on jasmine. you could maybe port the one from wayne (mi 6x) without too many issues, in fact i think i saw a thread on en.miui.com.
gsi images might work on both yes since they're both shipping with 8.1 (but there's not really needed on jasmine, it's already "clean" android).
but yes, if you want a fair comparison, a gsi running on both might be a better test.
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Beside, the argument i hear a lot of: "With time is gonna be faster", is complete nonsense for new customers. I don't want warranties on the future, if I'm buying something NOW, I want it to be the best NOW.
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I wish someone would have told Microsoft that about 25 yrs ago... every new version of the OS (that they rushed to market) had 1,000s of bugs that were fixed later on. I don't think mfg's really care about what you want "NOW".
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you could maybe port the one from wayne (mi 6x) without too many issues, in fact i think i saw a thread on en.miui.com.
gsi images might work on both yes since they're both shipping with 8.1 (but there's not really needed on jasmine, it's already "clean" android).
but yes, if you want a fair comparison, a gsi running on both might be a better test.
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indeed, sorry, what I mean is the wayne / mi 6x image, same device with miui
There is bunch of tests on youtube comparing note 5 pro and mi A2, and you can see that in many A2 is clean winner.
So, I believe that this tests depends heavily on tester and apps which they choose to use in the tests.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MRiVCxxH80
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubRU1omZM84
Not sure what all the fuss is here. This is a budget phone which is plenty fast and has great features for the price. If you want speed and fastest phone you will have to pay at least twice as much. I am coming from an SD835 phone and I hardly noticeable the difference at all.
As the old saying goes, you get what you pay for.
Ah these are crap test and YouTubers, better trust C4etech, Techdroider, revatlas
mingogomes said:
Hey guys,
how is it possible that a SD 636 is faster than a 660 with Android One?
https://newesc.com/test-velocidad-xiaomi-a2-vs-xiaomi-redmi-note-5/
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that's a bit ridiculous, but I've even seen a guy on steam who claims his GTX1050 is curbed by nvidia and as fast as a GTX1080 with a tweaked driver.
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that's a bit ridiculous, but I've even seen a guy on steam who claims his GTX1050 is curbed by nvidia and as fast as a GTX1080 with a tweaked driver.
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It is possible to tweak android to load faster apps, you can find on youtube test between S9+ and P20pro.
S9+ has about 240000 antutu score, while P20pro has about 200000.
P20pro beats S9+ in all standard apps and games, because android learned what apps user use the most, and cache them somehow, leaving S9+ in the dust, in real time usage.
It dosen't mean that it is really faster, but it is tweaked with smarter OS.
In "our" case, note 5 pro vs mi a2, of course, it is nonsense, mi a2 is faster, but miui also can be tweaked.
Also, custom roms are usually also tweaked and are faster then stock ones.
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In "our" case, note 5 pro vs mi a2, of course, it is nonsense, mi a2 is faster, but miui also can be tweaked.
Also, custom roms are usually also tweaked and are faster then stock ones.
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from my experience with the Redmi 4X MIUI is anyway pretty fast compared to Android One on my Mi A1, but rather lousy in regard of doing great shots.
there's other vantages of AOSP-based ROMs like RR, lineage, etc. Now my choice was the Mi A2 only due to the unlock process, improved cam, QC4.0 and CPU.
camera and microphone are definitely an improvement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2Ti8NsmVGE
Its a kernel related bug
Changed some setting and its better
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Its a kernel related bug
Changed some setting and its better
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same results here as well, ~190 mb read, 70 ish write (didn't change anything from stock)
what settings did you change?
IO scheduler
Befor that i got 170mb read and 42 mb write
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Its a kernel related bug
Changed some setting and its better
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It seems is a common issue then
Yes cause mi 6x is the same specs but its faster than a2 hope xiaomi fix this
not like a1 and a draining kernel wakeup ssusb.7000000 after 15 updates and its remained unfixed
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I play lot of games and need good battery. Will use for two years at least.
These are my basic needs. Pls lemme decide between these two phones.
Scratching my head regarding, mmm, sorry to say again, SD 810 issues.
Am huge fan of cyanogenmod. Is oxygen os treating you well guys. Or cm with opo is better.
Oneplus 2, with modified thermal you can play games without aggressive thermal throttling. SD 810 rumors are exaggerated
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Migdilu said:
Oneplus 2, with modified thermal you can play games without aggressive thermal throttling. SD 810 rumors are exaggerated
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I am an aggressive flasher. First thing I do is root. Currently using moto x play. Will switch optwo I think.
Wanted to know the users experience. Marketing hype backfired oneplus image I guess.
Previous OPO, currently OPT owner here. I can't wait for the day there's a reasonably good version of CM available for OPT (be it 12.1 or 13). Reasonably good for me means things like camera and gps work at all times and common apps like FB don't force close. I am even willing to give up on fingerprint scanner even though I do (and have to) use password to unlock the device.
Once that moment comes, OOS is gone from my OPT forever. OOS on OPT is nowhere close to CyanogenOS (not to confuse with CM, but IMHO the two are comparable) on OPO was. Really, this change was a major step back software-wise. OPT may be a great piece of hardware, but OOS - in my humble opinion - cripples it and, I have to repeat myself, is absolute rubbish compared to CyanogenOS.
Put it in another words, if I knew how bad stock firmware OPT comes with, I would stay with OPO without any hesitation, period.
Thanks for the feedback. That's the dilemma for me. I know opo had great os. Unfortunate that they had to develop their own os.
Have to keep fingers crossed with oxygen os. I have heard that they gave two updates now and the devices have better battery life.
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I have heard that they gave two updates now and the devices have better battery life.
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They push updates monthly, but it's all just minor stuff from my perspective - bug fixes that didn't even bother me, for example some dual sim issues. I didn't have any battery issues since Day 1.
I guess it all depends on your use case and past user experience - for example, if this was my first encounter with Android, I could be easily thrilled about OOS. But, it's not - and I'm not. At all.
If you like CM badly, buy OPO now. Sell it and get OP2 when marshmallow is officially out and cm on OPT is stable.
You may feel that this is a bad suggestion but this is my honest opinion unless you are willing to use Oxygen with custom kernel for now.
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Ive had them both too. The OPO has a lot going more custom roms if that's something you're interested in. The OPT doesn't have much in the custom rom department yet. The 5.1 roms you won't have fingerprint scanner or lazer auto focus. But if you root and install xposed and a few of the modules and add boeffla kernel, i pulled over 91,000 on antutu. The SD810 only gets warm when i do a back-up, wipe and install all in a row. The firngerprint scanner is really convenient a long with the alert slider
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Previous OPO, currently OPT owner here. I can't wait for the day there's a reasonably good version of CM available for OPT (be it 12.1 or 13). Reasonably good for me means things like camera and gps work at all times and common apps like FB don't force close. I am even willing to give up on fingerprint scanner even though I do (and have to) use password to unlock the device.
Once that moment comes, OOS is gone from my OPT forever. OOS on OPT is nowhere close to CyanogenOS (not to confuse with CM, but IMHO the two are comparable) on OPO was. Really, this change was a major step back software-wise. OPT may be a great piece of hardware, but OOS - in my humble opinion - cripples it and, I have to repeat myself, is absolute rubbish compared to CyanogenOS.
Put it in another words, if I knew how bad stock firmware OPT comes with, I would stay with OPO without any hesitation, period.
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Check out pacman rom cm 12.1, there's a build somewhere near December 3rd that is literally perfect. I've been running it since that day and absolutely everything works out of the box, camera at 13 mp, Snapchat, GPS, amazing battery/performance, and Facebook. Obviously no fingerprint and laser auto focus but its by far the best cm rom I've used on this phone, cm 12.1 nightlies are getting buggier and buggier it seems and I've had no reason to switch from this. Use dualboot if you're hesitant
I am using moto x play at the moment. Need another mobile now. One plus two is impressive lookwise.
I was going through op2 forum. Seems buzzing. I ll be active here once I get one plus two.
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emelsk said:
Previous OPO, currently OPT owner here. I can't wait for the day there's a reasonably good version of CM available for OPT (be it 12.1 or 13). Reasonably good for me means things like camera and gps work at all times and common apps like FB don't force close. I am even willing to give up on fingerprint scanner even though I do (and have to) use password to unlock the device.
Once that moment comes, OOS is gone from my OPT forever. OOS on OPT is nowhere close to CyanogenOS (not to confuse with CM, but IMHO the two are comparable) on OPO was. Really, this change was a major step back software-wise. OPT may be a great piece of hardware, but OOS - in my humble opinion - cripples it and, I have to repeat myself, is absolute rubbish compared to CyanogenOS.
Put it in another words, if I knew how bad stock firmware OPT comes with, I would stay with OPO without any hesitation, period.
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Exact same as him and I can't agree enough. He nailed it
Gopinath15 said:
I play lot of games and need good battery. Will use for two years at least.
These are my basic needs. Pls lemme decide between these two phones.
Scratching my head regarding, mmm, sorry to say again, SD 810 issues.
Am huge fan of cyanogenmod. Is oxygen os treating you well guys. Or cm with opo is better.
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Oneplus 2 for sure. I also came from Mi3W. There is very less heat when compared to Mi3W. Recent updates in OPO has been and seeing the Oneplus forums flooded with OPO software issues. OP2 has been getting good updates and most of the bugs are cleared now. Go for OP2 you may not regret it.
Like how opo was at its early age. It was glitchy and needed a lot of bugs to be squashed, but it ended up being so good that it's still getting praises compared to current flagships. That could very likely be the same opt it's buggy now, but once it starts rolling expect it to be a beast also
demongokul said:
Oneplus 2 for sure. I also came from Mi3W. There is very less heat when compared to Mi3W. Recent updates in OPO has been and seeing the Oneplus forums flooded with OPO software issues. OP2 has been getting good updates and most of the bugs are cleared now. Go for OP2 you may not regret it.
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I was using mi3 for an year and half and active in miui forums. Lost it and got moto x play. Shall get op2 soon. Thanks for suggestion )
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Gopinath15 said:
I was using mi3 for an year and half and active in miui forums. Lost it and got moto x play. Shall get op2 soon. Thanks for suggestion )
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is moto x play is good device? .
Tatsuya_ said:
is moto x play is good device? .
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Oh yes. I thought 615 sd will heat. Motorola really did a good job. Doesn't hear you and giving a great battery life. It has exceeded my expectation
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OP2 is receiving prompt updates every month so far and snapdragon810 was proven tame-able with correct kernel setup and parameters (like Boeffla kernel for an example)
If you expect op2 to work great out of the box I would say no. But if you try to tame it by following guides available here, it is a bang of a buck for its price compared to other snapdragon810 devices in its era
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Dual sim needed?
Or
Custom rom and developer friendly?
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As a newly OPT owner (used it for a month now), I would look elsewhere for a phone at the moment. All the custom roms are crippled (can't use AutoFocus, can't use Fingerprint scanner), OOS is ehh (even with their minor updates), OOS has a slight lag to the phone, and battery life is only so-so. Don't forget there's no quick charging. If you don't need dual sim, maybe take a look at nexus 6p.
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As a newly OPT owner (used it for a month now), I would look elsewhere for a phone at the moment. All the custom roms are crippled (can't use AutoFocus, can't use Fingerprint scanner), OOS is ehh (even with their minor updates), OOS has a slight lag to the phone, and battery life is only so-so. Don't forget there's no quick charging. If you don't need dual sim, maybe take a look at nexus 6p.
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The person created the thread lives in India. Nexus 6P costs 60% more than the Oneplus 2.
Guys we are getting update for 7.1.1 in a few weeks check out this link
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Android-7.1.1-Nougat-rollout-kicks-off-for-the-Moto-G4-Play_id95101
And u made a thread for this ,, WOW
U just wasted 1 minute of Mods when they close this duplicate thread
Why no one gives a f*ck about this device?
PI_IP said:
And u made a thread for this ,, WOW
U just wasted 1 minute of Mods when they close this duplicate thread
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anonymous2211 said:
Why no one gives a f*ck about this device?
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Chill - a little civility goes a long way. No issue with a new thread given Q&A section.
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And u made a thread for this ,, WOW
U just wasted 1 minute of Mods when they close this duplicate thread
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anonymous2211 said:
Why no one gives a f*ck about this device?
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Why you write so rude?? :S It's on the Q&A Section... I hope anybody gets angry at you when you make dumb question.... The guy only was happy about the update...
I wasn't rude, I'm disappointed that it seems that no one cares about the update or the device at all...
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I wasn't rude, I'm disappointed that it seems that no one cares about the update or the device at all...
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Might take a look in the development threads where extensive activity is taking place. This is far from a device that receives little attention.
too bad if nougat is available for Moto G4 Play. but nougat is not supported yet.. xposed and magisk lack of modules
Some people don't care about xposed or magisk... All I want is even better performance (better RAM management/CPU usage) and better battery life (Doze on the go).
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Some people don't care about xposed or magisk... All I want is even better performance (better RAM management/CPU usage) and better battery life (Doze on the go).
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Interesting comment. If truely seeking those characteristics then Android 6 is almost manditory as few Nougat ROMs offer the control available via Xposed.
Agreed 'Doze on the Go' is essential for battery life but easily implemented on Marshmallow via numerous well regarded apps or (ideally) Xposed modules.
Nothing against Android 7.x. It's an excellent base that beings a nice suite of incremental refinements. Unfortunately, CPU/RAM management is no better than native Android 6.x and the lack of Xposed support makes further tuning more difficult (arguably impossible) at the user level.
Android 8 does seem to offer some improvement resource management. Be interesting to see how it plays out in the real world, especially on back ports.
I don't think that Android as an OS can get any better, I mean what else can they implement in upcoming versions? This very cheap device is capable of doing about anything that I need almost instantly. No lags, acceptable day and a half battery life (I don't play games). I expect it to be even better with nougat. Now this is way off topic, but why do people need 4/6/8 GB of RAM, and milion cores qualcomm 8xx CPU (except maybe for games)? I've been using this SD410 from 2013 for over a 6 months now, and it does everything perfectly fine, no one lag... For 150$...
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I don't think that Android as an OS can get any better, I mean what else can they implement in upcoming versions? This very cheap device is capable of doing about anything that I need almost instantly. No lags, acceptable day and a half battery life (I don't play games). I expect it to be even better with nougat. Now this is way off topic, but why do people need 4/6/8 GB of RAM, and milion cores qualcomm 8xx CPU (except maybe for games)? I've been using this SD410 from 2013 for over a 6 months now, and it does everything perfectly fine, no one lag... For 150$...
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Appears you define 'near perfection' relative to your own experiences and expectations. I could offer various analogies but assume you get the point.
I own numerous Android device with CPUs ranging from SD410 at the low end to SD820 (mid range); RAM goes from ½GB to 4GB. I enjoy each device for the allocated tasks. Things would be much different if I swapped them around.
Do your homework on Android 8. There is a lot in the pipeline, especially for newer devices that come with O pre-installed. In contrast, Nougat was a relatively minor tweak to the already solid Marshmallow. Most of the newer functionality Android 7 has been available since KitKat via Xposed modules. Google just decided to bake it in (thankfully) but still left a lot of goodies out.
Davey126 said:
Appears you define 'near perfection' relative to your own experiences and expectations. I could offer various analogies but assume you get the point.
I own numerous Android device with CPUs ranging from SD410 at the low end to SD820 (mid range); RAM goes from ½GB to 4GB. I enjoy each device for the allocated tasks. Things would be much different if I swapped them around.
Do your homework on Android 8. There is a lot in the pipeline, especially for newer devices that come with O pre-installed. In contrast, Nougat was a relatively minor tweak to the already solid Marshmallow. Most of the newer functionality Android 7 has been available since KitKat via Xposed modules. Google just decided to bake it in (thankfully) but still left a lot of goodies out.
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Are you going to update to 7 or stick with 6 and exposed? Or maybe you're running a custom ROM...
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Are you going to update to 7 or stick with 6 and exposed? Or maybe you're running a custom ROM...
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Running stock Marshmallow on (bootloader) unlocked XT1607. While I have Xposed and a few key modules installed phone is not my daily driver so may consider stock Nougat if there is an obvious benefit (not seeing it now); AOSP and Lineage are also contenders. Biggest concern is inability to control some protected processes w/o Xposed. At present I score a 0.2% per hour average idle drain rate with all radios, full location services and push mail/messaging enabled. Would also miss UI controls offered via Edge and GravityBox.
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http://www.theandroidsoul.com/download-moto-g4-play-android-7-1-1-update-soak-test-build-ota-zip/
Jalebi dev also happy for this update
Does anyone got the update?
No update yet. Still waiting on the xt1607.
Also still waiting for xt1607. I wonder why India and other countries got theirs way earlier. You'd think they would release them at the same time. What's the difference? 1 sim vs dual SIM?
Why is there so little love for this device?
there is only 5 threads in the dev subforum.
2 of them is about recovery
1 is on unofficial LineageOS
1 on a DPI changing patch and the last one on beta MIUI 9
thinking to myself if i've decided on the less loved device lol
Xiaomi has not released the kernel source. This makes development challenging. Things are probably going to change when that happens in roughly 5 months (based on delay to release Mi Max sources).
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Xiaomi has not released the kernel source. This makes development challenging. Things are probably going to change when that happens in roughly 5 months (based on delay to release Mi Max sources).
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holy ...
this is my 1st xiaomi device. didn't know they take so long to release their sources.
5 months is a long time man lol... that is kinda disappointing.
but let's just hope it'll be sooner, thats all users can do..
I was an earlier obsessive ROM/kernel flasher and have now sort of settled down. I honestly feel that stock roms are good enough for most general use cases. What I would suggest is to get on the Global MIUI beta for the weekly updates. Nothing offers more stabiility (in terms of connectivity, bluetooth, GPS, etc) for a device as the stock rom and I am saying this from experience.
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I was an earlier obsessive ROM/kernel flasher and have now sort of settled down. I honestly feel that stock roms are good enough for most general use cases. What I would suggest is to get on the Global MIUI beta for the weekly updates. Nothing offers more stabiility (in terms of connectivity, bluetooth, GPS, etc) for a device as the stock rom and I am saying this from experience.
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Thank you for the inputs.
I played around for a day / two but MIUI, it is just a little too messy.
Settings seems to be all over the place.
I've been on android devices since cupcake and always like the simplicity of aosp or lineage in this case ever since cyan. That is y I'm looking forward to lineage official support. I guess it'll happen, just gotta wait till kernel source is releaseed. :fingers-crossed:
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I was an earlier obsessive ROM/kernel flasher and have now sort of settled down. I honestly feel that stock roms are good enough for most general use cases. What I would suggest is to get on the Global MIUI beta for the weekly updates. Nothing offers more stabiility (in terms of connectivity, bluetooth, GPS, etc) for a device as the stock rom and I am saying this from experience.
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I agree. With my first android phones, custom roms could be an improvement. But now adays, theyre usually worse. I have had a redmi note 2, redmi note 3, mi max and now mi max 2. Miui-roms has been the best rom for all of them. especially battery life and camera.
I root, delete apps I dont want, choose the launcher and theme I want and I can get the look I prefer.
noobhero said:
Thank you for the inputs.
I played around for a day / two but MIUI, it is just a little too messy.
Settings seems to be all over the place.
I've been on android devices since cupcake and always like the simplicity of aosp or lineage in this case ever since cyan. That is y I'm looking forward to lineage official support. I guess it'll happen, just gotta wait till kernel source is releaseed. :fingers-crossed:
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MIUI is not that bad at all in my opinion. Give it a try a little more. It's not bloated, interface is relatively clean. I just don't like that dodgy built-in cleaner app.
Cryonics said:
MIUI is not that bad at all in my opinion. Give it a try a little more. It's not bloated, interface is relatively clean. I just don't like that dodgy built-in cleaner app.
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it'll come a day, whereby things will just be like @praveen6585 .. i'll get tired of following updates and flashing this unlocking that and just settle with what comes out of the box. there's just too much options nowadays.. and too much to read into lol.
There will be more mi max 2 buy by Indians as there is huge discount in flipkart. So future development will be good for this giant.
Got this phone for INR 11700/- (184 USD)
4GB RAM/32 GB.
Now looking back worried, because there seems to be no stable custom ROMs out there...
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Got this phone for INR 11700/- (184 USD)
4GB RAM/32 GB.
Now looking back worried, because there seems to be no stable custom ROMs out there...
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They r great at coming out with cheap phones with good specs but suport is ughs.
I now only use this for media consumption if am not on my tablet.
Have moved on to the op5t.
This have been a standby for me anyway. I’ll be glad if theres even a decent kernel out there.
Cryonics said:
MIUI is not that bad at all in my opinion. Give it a try a little more. It's not bloated, interface is relatively clean. I just don't like that dodgy built-in cleaner app.
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I'm with you. I'm a former serial flasher with all my samsung phones but now I'm more than content to have something that just works...no crashes, no spontaneous reboots, no compromises. I did switch to the DEV rom so I get weekly updates which suits me fine. LOVE this phone.
um...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max-2/development/available-stock-custom-roms-mi-max-2-t3737523
besides, kernel sources were released just 16 days ago. give it some time, im sure there will be something more coming up soon-ish
Hi.
Is there any Stable Oreo ROM for Mi6?
What guys will you recommend?
I'm full of MIUI and want to start journey with some alternative ROM
Stable and Android 8? Nop.
So far the stable ROMs are based on Android 7.1.2 and even in those, you are going to lose some performance and camera functions even if you activate the camera2 api. What do you dislike about Miui??
Battery performance on MIUI is not the best
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Battery performance on MIUI is not the best
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Battery timing on Miui is way better than non miui roms. You will need custom kernels and some modifications to ensure good battery life.
SkubiDoo said:
Battery performance on MIUI is not the best
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That's funny because battery performance is one of the best things that MIUI has in comparison to other android layers/ROMs
And I dislike MIUI aswell, but I stay with it since it offers the most battery life and camera quality of all ROMs
I won't agree with that I owned Mi5 before and after I install AEX - battery performance highly changed on + compare to MIUI. This is why I'm looking for some stable alternative ROM for Mi6
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I won't agree with that I owned Mi5 before and after I install AEX - battery performance highly changed on + compare to MIUI. This is why I'm looking for some stable alternative ROM for Mi6
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I would agree. Battery on MIUI isn't actually any better than other ROMs. They are all roughly the same or longer on custom ROMs because they don't have so much bloat running.
However you can extend MIUI battery and performance by disabling MIUI enhancements. Task killers are no longer necessary on android.
Enable developer settings and set memory optimisations to off and disable the MIUI optimisations.
Then it will use the normal android management which is much better for battery and multi tasking.
MIUI is still using task killers based on saving battery on old android versions. Nougat and Oreo definitely don't need this
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I would agree. Battery on MIUI isn't actually any better than other ROMs. They are all roughly the same or longer on custom ROMs because they don't have so much bloat running.
However you can extend MIUI battery and performance by disabling MIUI enhancements. Task killers are no longer necessary on android.
Enable developer settings and set memory optimisations to off and disable the MIUI optimisations.
Then it will use the normal android management which is much better for battery and multi tasking.
MIUI is still using task killers based on saving battery on old android versions. Nougat and Oreo definitely don't need this
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I will try this memory opt to disable.
What about alternative ROMs? What will you recommend?
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I will try this memory opt to disable.
What about alternative ROMs? What will you recommend?
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Any of the nougat ROMs that seem stable.
Either LOS or AOSPA
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Battery performance on MIUI is not the best
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The battery life on custom room is about the same., Even when using popkern. You may find another issues on the custom ROMs.
But if you want a custom rom, my advice would be trying first Aicp 12.1 it's stable and unless you game won't notice the performance drop.
Los 15.1 is way too buggy to be used as a daily
I am using Atomic OS. The battery life is great, it is fast, it is 8.1 and overall a great ROM. Things that are still not perfect: Bluetooth calls don't work (but will be fixed) and sometimes a micro lag while typing.
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I am using Atomic OS. The battery life is great, it is fast, it is 8.1 and overall a great ROM. Things that are still not perfect: Bluetooth calls don't work (but will be fixed) and sometimes a micro lag while typing.
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I will wait on AOSPA until the Atomic is officially released
Wysłane z mojego MI 6 przy użyciu Tapatalka
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I will wait on AOSPA until the Atomic is officially released
Wysłane z mojego MI 6 przy użyciu Tapatalka
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It is now. Thread is in the ROMs section.
Unless you need Bluetooth calls it seems to be pretty much fully functional
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It is now. Thread is in the ROMs section.
Unless you need Bluetooth calls it seems to be pretty much fully functional
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The performance is unreal compared other custom roms, battery life is fantastic.
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The performance is unreal compared other custom roms, battery life is fantastic.
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Do you have a break down of all the bugs?
Someone was complaining there was no notification sounds etc but I think that would get more widely reported...
Seems like there's no reason not to use it atm
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Do you have a break down of all the bugs?
Someone was complaining there was no notification sounds etc but I think that would get more widely reported...
Seems like there's no reason not to use it atm
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Notification sounds are working perfectly normally, only thing I've noticed is that it stutters at times, and very rarely hangs for a couple seconds.
Only other thing is that dark UI renders some text unreadable, but this is mostly a non issue, as it affects very few areas.
They might be messing something up during installation.
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Notification sounds are working perfectly normally, only thing I've noticed is that it stutters at times, and very rarely hangs for a couple seconds.
Only other thing is that dark UI renders some text unreadable, but this is mostly a non issue, as it affects very few areas.
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I'll probably use the normal UI anyway unless dark is default.
Sounds good I'll be checking it out tomorrow once I've made some backups etc
Sorry for out of topic guys.
Do u think is worth to buy this phone compared to oneplus 5, cause mi 6 is a lot cheaper.
But I wonder why there is only a few custom roms here?
since this phone is xiaomi flagship.
Honesty I don't like miui, I preferred aosp. Do you think the development on this phone will grow anytime soon?
Or should I just wait for Mi 7? What do u think guys
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Sorry for out of topic guys.
Do u think is worth to buy this phone compared to oneplus 5, cause mi 6 is a lot cheaper.
But I wonder why there is only a few custom roms here?
since this phone is xiaomi flagship.
Honesty I don't like miui, I preferred aosp. Do you think the development on this phone will grow anytime soon?
Or should I just wait for Mi 7? What do u think guys
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From what I'm reading:
OnePlus 5 < Mi 6 < OP 5T
If you have the money get the 5T as its more recent.
It also looks more aesthetically pleasing as it has the newer long curved screen.
If not then get the Mi 6.
You can unlock and be using a custom ROM pretty fast just apply for unlocking when you get the phone (but test the phone for some time before you unlock in case you need warranty).
MIUI is actually very pleasant and I enjoy using it. I just prefer custom ROMs because AOSP is less iOS orientated.
If you can wait or you have a decent phone now then just wait because 845 devices are coming so you can get one of those or at least they will blow the price of the current devices way down. Next year we will see them.
Everyone is complain complain complain about Mi 6 ROMs and they should honestly be buying OP phones for more money because that's where the extra money goes - the marketing to developers.
Coming from Sony though I'm over the moon. My phone doesn't bend in my pocket.
My phone doesn't have dead pixels. My phone doesn't come back from the repair center even more bent (yes that's a thing with Sony).
My phone doesn't have incredibly crippling DRM restrictions after unlocking the bootloader so my camera doesn't kill itself after rooting.
And now I can actually have the latest versions of android from the OEM or faster from the talented devs here.
So compared to other OEMs Xiaomi is the f*ucking dream especially considering the price of the phone.
I'm gonna buy another one in a few years and if its as good as the Mi 6 they'll have a loyal customer for life.
The only exception would be if OP releases something better for equal or less money but I doubt they can pull it off.
My only complaint with Xiaomi might be that they use Foxconn as a manufacturer and they don't have the best track record with working conditions since their work for Apple, but I think for any OEM to be competitive they are all sliding down that slope.
Universally better working conditions for electronics manufacture would be nice, but we are a ways off from that.
Im planning to buy this if theres a custom rom support, do you think guys it will have?
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Im planning to buy this if theres a custom rom support, do you think guys it will have?
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I don't see why it wouldn't. Xiaomi's snapdragon models seem to always have development since it's easy to unlock the bootloader. For development to thrive though, we have to wait till the kernel sources are released, which is about 2 months after release on average.
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I don't see why it wouldn't. Xiaomi's snapdragon models seem to always have development since it's easy to unlock the bootloader. For development to thrive though, we have to wait till the kernel sources are released, which is about 2 months after release on average.
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ok sir thank you
I hope so. Good thing is that it looks like the Redmi Note 9 4G and the Redmi Note 9 Power share the same specs, except they add a new Ultrawide camera.
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I hope so. Good thing is that it looks like the Redmi Note 9 4G and the Redmi Note 9 Power share the same specs, except they add a new Ultrawide camera.
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Looks like you're right. They just released the kernel sources and the Redmi Note 9 4G and Poco M3 share the same code. https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/lime-q-oss
Looks like twrp may come sooner than I thought
has anyone unlocked bootloader? I am waiting for some NewYear price falls.
Anyone thought of flashing GSI/treble AOSP images for pure android?
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I had unlock the bootloader and installed EU rom with magisk... I will install AOSP in futur but now it's too early.
Just got the phone, definitely feels slower than it needs to be based on the specs. I am really hoping we see a custom recovery and ROMs soon to see this phone fly. I was checking and the X3 NFC got those 2 relatively quickly post release.
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Just got the phone, definitely feels slower than it needs to be based on the specs. I am really hoping we see a custom recovery and ROMs soon to see this phone fly. I was checking and the X3 NFC got those 2 relatively quickly post release.
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No miracles, no custom rom is going to make the phone fly.
For its price it is a very good phone.
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No miracles, no custom rom is going to make the phone fly.
For its price it is a very good phone.
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I disagree with your assertion. Even Redmi note 5 pro from three years ago, performs very well without lag on AOSP ROMs. And we all know that SD 662 on the POCO M3 is faster and better than SD 636 on RN5 Pro. So i believe that POCO M3 will perform greatly on AOSP based ROMs.
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I disagree with your assertion. Even Redmi note 5 pro from three years ago, performs very well without lag on AOSP ROMs. And we all know that SD 662 on the POCO M3 is faster and better than SD 636 on RN5 Pro. So i believe that POCO M3 will perform greatly on AOSP based ROMs.
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The miui roms of that time were loaded with bloadware and not very optimized, so any "clean" rom made an appreciable difference in performance.
Today it is not like that, the current miui roms are quite clean and highly optimized (and can be easily cleaned of the bloadware they carry).
There is not much difference apart from the security issues with the other cleaner android roms.
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The miui roms of that time were loaded with bloadware and not very optimized, so any "clean" rom made an appreciable difference in performance.
Today it is not like that, the current miui roms are quite clean and highly optimized (and can be easily cleaned of the bloadware they carry).
There is not much difference apart from the security issues with the other cleaner android roms.
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Yeah, sure...
I have a Redmi Note 7, with the SD660, that phone runs much much much faster, even with slower memory. The Poco M3 can go faster.
jmfb55 said:
The miui roms of that time were loaded with bloadware and not very optimized, so any "clean" rom made an appreciable difference in performance.
Today it is not like that, the current miui roms are quite clean and highly optimized (and can be easily cleaned of the bloadware they carry).
There is not much difference apart from the security issues with the other cleaner android roms.
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Can you link me to some guide as to how to remove that Junk and stop/uninstall apps? This reviewer seems to think you cannot and maybe you could help him too!
You will find all in any of the Miui forum, even in Xda.
hello sir, I'm from future and now Poco m3 have many custom rom