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Z2 development dead?

Is it just me or does development for Z2 seem pretty much dead, especially with doom away for personal business. I am kind of thinking of selling my Z2 and get a M8. Z2 is better on hardware side, has better battery, better camera and i like what sony does with stock rom (i hate sense) but i can't deny that every time i browse through m8 forums i am feeling a bit jealous and curious to what the devive has to offer. I like the half year release cycle that sony has with their high end devices, but i think this really is the downside of it, developers seem to stay with the older devices and won't switch every half year.

GiGi. said:
Is it just me or does development for Z2 seem pretty much dead, especially with doom away for personal business. I am kind of thinking of selling my Z2 and get a M8. Z2 is better on hardware side, has better battery, better camera and i like what sony does with stock rom (i hate sense) but i can't deny that every time i browse through m8 forums i am feeling a bit jealous and curious to what the devive has to offer.
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What specific support is it missing?
You seem to be asking for something without being clear what it is you feel is lacking or desirable that hasn't already been covered???
For me, there appears to be plenty of stock based and original ROMs - kernels may be another thing. Hardly a reason to flog your phone.
Perhaps it also has something to do with the Stock offerings. Sony appear to have got a good balance of features, so maybe folk feel less inclined to change and just personalise it instead. It sure isn't the lardy TouchWiz. Sense and whatever LG call their UI/UX. Thankfully.

LenAsh said:
What specific support is it missing?
You seem to be asking for something without being clear what it is you feel is lacking or desirable that hasn't already been covered???
For me, there appears to be plenty of stock based and original ROMs - kernels may be another thing. Hardly a reason to flog your phone.
Perhaps it also has something to do with the Stock offerings. Sony appear to have got a good balance of features, so maybe folk feel less inclined to change and just personalise it instead. It sure isn't the lardy TouchWiz. Sense and whatever LG call their UI/UX. Thankfully.
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I am not asking for anything, i was just starting an open discussion. Just browse through M8 forums and you see what i mean. Sony does indeed have a very good stock offering but i am missing good kernels for example, with only one kernel which does not seem to get updates for now and is not working with latest firmware i am kind of missing the overclock, underclock, undervolt and other tweaking that i really like to do.

GiGi. said:
I am not asking anything, i was just starting an open discussion. Just browse through M8 forums and you see what i mean. Sony does indeed have a very good stock offering but i am missing good kernels for example, with only one kernel which does not seem to get updates for now and is not working with latest firmware i am kind of missing the overclock, underclock, undervolt and other tweaking that i really like.
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I had an M8 - for 2 days! Nuff said.
I've no interest in kernel tweaking these days - I feel (IMHO) that it's of no real value with the state of the art these days.
I think judging a phone by the number of dev "tweaks" is the opposite of the desired state,
Just my opinion.
Cheers

LenAsh said:
I had an M8 - for 2 days! Nuff said.
I've no interest in kernel tweaking these days - I feel (IMHO) that it's of no real value with the state of the art these days.
Just my opinion.
Cheers
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Well, what about official Paranoid Android, Dirty Unicorns, CyanogenMod, SlimKat, PAC-man, stuff like that support We have AOKP which i really like but it happens to have some bigs that prevent it from being used as a daily driver.

GiGi. said:
Well, what about official Paranoid Android, Dirty Unicorns, CyanogenMod, SlimKat, PAC-man, stuff like that support We have AOKP which i really like but it happens to have some bigs that prevent it from being used as a daily driver.
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There appears to be a number of recognizable ROMs like monx, SLIM and Carbon, plus CM of course. And several others.
I wouldn't judge a phone's support level just because you don't recognise the ROM names... personally I prefer something different rather than a copycat approach - running PAC on one phone is like running PAC on another - yawn! New ground and all that.

Just my 2 cents, but since the XposedMods took over there is not so much call for Custom Mods because most of it can be done with Xposed now. I think that was one of the main reasons for Custom Roms. AOKP and CynaogenMod and derivatives of it take care of the rest.

While I agree with all the points from various members here, I have to agree with OP. Yes there are ROMs based on stock, yes there is CM support but I would like to see PA, SlimKat etc too. I'm running stock with xposed at the moment and I'm happy with it but I'd love to be able to flash PA due to their features etc. Having said that though, there's definitely no reason to sell the phone for a M8 or G3 because IMO, the Z2 has the most useful/meaningful features over all for the money you pay for it.

The z2 has only just been released in the US and even then I'm not sure if the US carriers are offering it yet, I'm sure we will start to see more devs for our device soon

The Sony stock ROM's are great. And with Xposed you can get everything you'd need a custom ROM before.
So the need for different Custom ROM's has gone down.
Kernels are another thing. But to get a good Kernel working with lots of tweaks seems to be a little more dificult than cooking a ROM.
i wouldn't say the development for the Z2 is dead, it just had it's first peak that came from "it's new" now it is/was decreasing and will start growing again, when more people buy this phone.

LenAsh said:
I had an M8 - for 2 days! Nuff said.
I've no interest in kernel tweaking these days - I feel (IMHO) that it's of no real value with the state of the art these days.
I think judging a phone by the number of dev "tweaks" is the opposite of the desired state,
Just my opinion.
Cheers
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A good kernel is as important as a good ROM. Stock kernels pale in comparison.
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GiGi. said:
selling my Z2 and get a M8
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M8?? when the LG G3 is now available?

Still waiting custom kernel for CM.
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And I'm waiting for soundmod. Not that Z2's sound is bad, but I know that it could be better with help of devs.

G3 is a lag machine. I'm torn on the m8 as the camera isn't great but the lg is a beta device. Really unsure of a phone right now.
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BrainstormPL said:
And I'm waiting for soundmod. Not that Z2's sound is bad, but I know that it could be better with help of devs.
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There's at least 3 sound mods already, that's not including viper or beats

Oh, I've been searching for them and found nothing. Im talking about that ones, which are improving sound quality, not boosting volume etc. Could you please send me links to that mods?

Give it time. Z2 Dev section will skyrocket. And yh, there is a there is a thread to contribute. So we can get more devs on board? Do you want that? Now you know what to do.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2746493

GiGi. said:
Is it just me or does development for Z2 seem pretty much dead, especially with doom away for personal business. I am kind of thinking of selling my Z2 and get a M8. Z2 is better on hardware side, has better battery, better camera and i like what sony does with stock rom (i hate sense) but i can't deny that every time i browse through m8 forums i am feeling a bit jealous and curious to what the devive has to offer. I like the half year release cycle that sony has with their high end devices, but i think this really is the downside of it, developers seem to stay with the older devices and won't switch every half year.
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The different of Z1 and Z2 is not big(though all way improved from screen, speaker, cpu, ram to headphone) but majority of people decided to stay with Z1. Z1 board got much more people there.

Is the Note 3 worth buying even if I hate Touchwiz to death ?

OK, I'm buying a new phone very soon, so far I'm going with the HTC one M8...
But, the note 3 is only 40$ more which got me thinking if it's worth it..
Here's a comparison between the two in terms of specs : http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6074&idPhone2=5665
My only issue is I hate touchwiz to death... I hate it so much that I'd rather use iOS than using touchwiz and I hate iOS so much as well BTW, but still.. Touchwiz.. Uggh..
And that means that I'd be relying mainly on AOSP ROMs..
So how are they on the snapdragon model.. Are they as stable as official ? Is there any known unfixable issues on them ? Performance wise ? The Camera ?
And on a totally different subject, does it record slow mo videos ?
I can see it records 1080p60fps... What about 120fps on 720p ? Is it possible ?

Camera is not as good as on Samsung ROMs, and NFC does not always work, but otherwise the ROMs are as good as you would get on a Nexus device, IMHO.
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jisoo said:
Camera is not as good as on Samsung ROMs, and NFC does not always work, but otherwise the ROMs are as good as you would get on a Nexus device, IMHO.
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Define "not as good" ?
Any major crashes or just overall quality ?

You may hate TouchWiz as i did, until they released a different version for Note 5/S6. While they're stubbornness to respond to UI/UX feedback from users is still lacking, Sammy did something here worth checking (i think it has to do with the fact that they asked Google for help).
The Note 5/S6 Ports are SOLID. Personally, AOSP is unmatchable to TW Ports in battery life, but they're better in performance though (most of the times). Please note that this is from my personal experience, i prefer not to flash every week a major system update, let alone daily.
Again, a Note 5 Port gave me 2 days of battery life with 5 hours screen time, consistently, with minimal modding.

PlutoDelic said:
You may hate TouchWiz as i did, until they released a different version for Note 5/S6. While they're stubbornness to respond to UI/UX feedback from users is still lacking, Sammy did something here worth checking (i think it has to do with the fact that they asked Google for help).
The Note 5/S6 Ports are SOLID. Personally, AOSP is unmatchable to TW Ports in battery life, but they're better in performance though (most of the times). Please note that this is from my personal experience, i prefer not to flash every week a major system update, let alone daily.
Again, a Note 5 Port gave me 2 days of battery life with 5 hours screen time, consistently, with minimal modding.
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I don't just hate touchwiz coz of its performance... I hate it coz it looks pretty darn awful.
If I'm getting the note 3.. I don't think I'm ever gonna be running TW...
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so still my questions ?
if anyone's has been running AOSP roms for a while, I'd love to know how it's been going ? major issues or anything ?

biascoblix said:
Define "not as good" ?
Any major crashes or just overall quality ?
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Poor low-light performance. Sometimes blurry images. IRS usable but not great. YMMV.
For system stability, if you are comfortable with CM, it's as good as is expected. Some builds and kernels are solid as rock, others a crash-fest. I'm very happy but others are not.
One thing to note, though, is that the next Android update might have issues, as a lot of the devs have moved to newer devices. Marshmallow builds are now good enough to use, but next year things might be more difficult.
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jisoo said:
Poor low-light performance. Sometimes blurry images. IRS usable but not great. YMMV.
For system stability, if you are comfortable with CM, it's as good as is expected. Some builds and kernels are solid as rock, others a crash-fest. I'm very happy but others are not.
One thing to note, though, is that the next Android update might have issues, as a lot of the devs have moved to newer devices. Marshmallow builds are now good enough to use, but next year things might be more difficult.
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That's the things I care about....
Well, then.. No NOTE 3 for me...
Thanks for your help.. I think I'm gonna go with the M8.. It has a more active development community...
or wait, and eventually get a 5X or a 6P

biascoblix said:
That's the things I care about....
Well, then.. No NOTE 3 for me...
Thanks for your help.. I think I'm gonna go with the M8.. It has a more active development community...
or wait, and eventually get a 5X or a 6P
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I'm waiting for the next Nexus phones myself. Recently got my son a Nexus 5 and realized how much nicer it is to have a phone fully supported by AOSP. Better camera and longer period of upgrades.
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jisoo said:
I'm waiting for the next Nexus phones myself. Recently got my son a Nexus 5 and realized how much nicer it is to have a phone fully supported by AOSP. Better camera and longer period of upgrades.
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Yea, I just checked with the stores here... The 5X is available... But I really wanna get the 6P.. I might wait till its price drop a lille bit... If it doesn't in the next two months.. I'll just go with the 5X

You can try stable asop rom. I prefer CM roms. Its much much better than touchwiz roms

Alternative Stable OREO ROM for Mi6

Hi.
Is there any Stable Oreo ROM for Mi6?
What guys will you recommend?
I'm full of MIUI and want to start journey with some alternative ROM

Stable and Android 8? Nop.
So far the stable ROMs are based on Android 7.1.2 and even in those, you are going to lose some performance and camera functions even if you activate the camera2 api. What do you dislike about Miui??

Battery performance on MIUI is not the best

SkubiDoo said:
Battery performance on MIUI is not the best
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Battery timing on Miui is way better than non miui roms. You will need custom kernels and some modifications to ensure good battery life.

SkubiDoo said:
Battery performance on MIUI is not the best
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That's funny because battery performance is one of the best things that MIUI has in comparison to other android layers/ROMs
And I dislike MIUI aswell, but I stay with it since it offers the most battery life and camera quality of all ROMs

I won't agree with that I owned Mi5 before and after I install AEX - battery performance highly changed on + compare to MIUI. This is why I'm looking for some stable alternative ROM for Mi6

SkubiDoo said:
I won't agree with that I owned Mi5 before and after I install AEX - battery performance highly changed on + compare to MIUI. This is why I'm looking for some stable alternative ROM for Mi6
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I would agree. Battery on MIUI isn't actually any better than other ROMs. They are all roughly the same or longer on custom ROMs because they don't have so much bloat running.
However you can extend MIUI battery and performance by disabling MIUI enhancements. Task killers are no longer necessary on android.
Enable developer settings and set memory optimisations to off and disable the MIUI optimisations.
Then it will use the normal android management which is much better for battery and multi tasking.
MIUI is still using task killers based on saving battery on old android versions. Nougat and Oreo definitely don't need this

Dobsgw said:
I would agree. Battery on MIUI isn't actually any better than other ROMs. They are all roughly the same or longer on custom ROMs because they don't have so much bloat running.
However you can extend MIUI battery and performance by disabling MIUI enhancements. Task killers are no longer necessary on android.
Enable developer settings and set memory optimisations to off and disable the MIUI optimisations.
Then it will use the normal android management which is much better for battery and multi tasking.
MIUI is still using task killers based on saving battery on old android versions. Nougat and Oreo definitely don't need this
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I will try this memory opt to disable.
What about alternative ROMs? What will you recommend?

SkubiDoo said:
I will try this memory opt to disable.
What about alternative ROMs? What will you recommend?
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Any of the nougat ROMs that seem stable.
Either LOS or AOSPA

SkubiDoo said:
Battery performance on MIUI is not the best
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The battery life on custom room is about the same., Even when using popkern. You may find another issues on the custom ROMs.
But if you want a custom rom, my advice would be trying first Aicp 12.1 it's stable and unless you game won't notice the performance drop.
Los 15.1 is way too buggy to be used as a daily

I am using Atomic OS. The battery life is great, it is fast, it is 8.1 and overall a great ROM. Things that are still not perfect: Bluetooth calls don't work (but will be fixed) and sometimes a micro lag while typing.

Ultraschorsch said:
I am using Atomic OS. The battery life is great, it is fast, it is 8.1 and overall a great ROM. Things that are still not perfect: Bluetooth calls don't work (but will be fixed) and sometimes a micro lag while typing.
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I will wait on AOSPA until the Atomic is officially released
Wysłane z mojego MI 6 przy użyciu Tapatalka

SkubiDoo said:
I will wait on AOSPA until the Atomic is officially released
Wysłane z mojego MI 6 przy użyciu Tapatalka
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It is now. Thread is in the ROMs section.
Unless you need Bluetooth calls it seems to be pretty much fully functional

Dobsgw said:
It is now. Thread is in the ROMs section.
Unless you need Bluetooth calls it seems to be pretty much fully functional
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The performance is unreal compared other custom roms, battery life is fantastic.

NickTheSickDick said:
The performance is unreal compared other custom roms, battery life is fantastic.
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Do you have a break down of all the bugs?
Someone was complaining there was no notification sounds etc but I think that would get more widely reported...
Seems like there's no reason not to use it atm

Dobsgw said:
Do you have a break down of all the bugs?
Someone was complaining there was no notification sounds etc but I think that would get more widely reported...
Seems like there's no reason not to use it atm
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Notification sounds are working perfectly normally, only thing I've noticed is that it stutters at times, and very rarely hangs for a couple seconds.
Only other thing is that dark UI renders some text unreadable, but this is mostly a non issue, as it affects very few areas.

They might be messing something up during installation.

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Notification sounds are working perfectly normally, only thing I've noticed is that it stutters at times, and very rarely hangs for a couple seconds.
Only other thing is that dark UI renders some text unreadable, but this is mostly a non issue, as it affects very few areas.
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I'll probably use the normal UI anyway unless dark is default.
Sounds good I'll be checking it out tomorrow once I've made some backups etc

Sorry for out of topic guys.
Do u think is worth to buy this phone compared to oneplus 5, cause mi 6 is a lot cheaper.
But I wonder why there is only a few custom roms here?
since this phone is xiaomi flagship.
Honesty I don't like miui, I preferred aosp. Do you think the development on this phone will grow anytime soon?
Or should I just wait for Mi 7? What do u think guys

arifreggit said:
Sorry for out of topic guys.
Do u think is worth to buy this phone compared to oneplus 5, cause mi 6 is a lot cheaper.
But I wonder why there is only a few custom roms here?
since this phone is xiaomi flagship.
Honesty I don't like miui, I preferred aosp. Do you think the development on this phone will grow anytime soon?
Or should I just wait for Mi 7? What do u think guys
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From what I'm reading:
OnePlus 5 < Mi 6 < OP 5T
If you have the money get the 5T as its more recent.
It also looks more aesthetically pleasing as it has the newer long curved screen.
If not then get the Mi 6.
You can unlock and be using a custom ROM pretty fast just apply for unlocking when you get the phone (but test the phone for some time before you unlock in case you need warranty).
MIUI is actually very pleasant and I enjoy using it. I just prefer custom ROMs because AOSP is less iOS orientated.
If you can wait or you have a decent phone now then just wait because 845 devices are coming so you can get one of those or at least they will blow the price of the current devices way down. Next year we will see them.
Everyone is complain complain complain about Mi 6 ROMs and they should honestly be buying OP phones for more money because that's where the extra money goes - the marketing to developers.
Coming from Sony though I'm over the moon. My phone doesn't bend in my pocket.
My phone doesn't have dead pixels. My phone doesn't come back from the repair center even more bent (yes that's a thing with Sony).
My phone doesn't have incredibly crippling DRM restrictions after unlocking the bootloader so my camera doesn't kill itself after rooting.
And now I can actually have the latest versions of android from the OEM or faster from the talented devs here.
So compared to other OEMs Xiaomi is the f*ucking dream especially considering the price of the phone.
I'm gonna buy another one in a few years and if its as good as the Mi 6 they'll have a loyal customer for life.
The only exception would be if OP releases something better for equal or less money but I doubt they can pull it off.
My only complaint with Xiaomi might be that they use Foxconn as a manufacturer and they don't have the best track record with working conditions since their work for Apple, but I think for any OEM to be competitive they are all sliding down that slope.
Universally better working conditions for electronics manufacture would be nice, but we are a ways off from that.

Mi A2 slower than a Redmi Note 5?

Hey guys,
how is it possible that a SD 636 is faster than a 660 with Android One?
In this article you have different videos that show different Speed Test, and in the last ones, the Note 5 beats the Mi A2:
https://newesc.com/test-velocidad-xiaomi-a2-vs-xiaomi-redmi-note-5/

he-s comparing apples and pears.
whyred has been out for months now, plenty of time for miui for it to get optimizations and improvements (it's also probably the main redmi device that they work on miui10, complete with the new ai engine loading algorithms that learn your usage patters to speed up your phone).
and even without that, any sort of miui vs android one comparisons are irrelevant if you ask me... nobody ever said miui is slow, some just prefer a clean android instead.

laviniu_c said:
he-s comparing apples and pears.
whyred has been out for months now, plenty of time for miui for it to get optimizations and improvements (it's also probably the main redmi device that they work on miui10, complete with the new ai engine loading algorithms that learn your usage patters to speed up your phone).
and even without that, any sort of miui vs android one comparisons are irrelevant if you ask me... nobody ever said miui is slow, some just prefer a clean android instead.
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Every company should launch the best optimized product they can, because the first month is the most important in sells. If you launch a new product that cost more but is not faster than an older one, you are gonna lose customers. Easy.
Beside, the argument i hear a lot of: "With time is gonna be faster", is complete nonsense for new customers. I don't want warranties on the future, if I'm buying something NOW, I want it to be the best NOW.
"nobody ever said miui is slow" that's true, but you can see a lot of youtubers saying that they prefer Android one because is "faster" and "more optimized"

mingogomes said:
Every company should launch the best optimized product they can, because the first month is the most important in sells. If you launch a new product that cost more but is not faster than an older one, you are gonna lose customers. Easy.
Beside, the argument i hear a lot of: "With time is gonna be faster", is complete nonsense for new customers. I don't want warranties on the future, if I'm buying something NOW, I want it to be the best NOW.
"nobody ever said miui is slow" that's true, but you can see a lot of youtubers saying that they prefer Android one because is "faster" and "more optimized"
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i don't think i agree with you that the first month is the most important for sales. and we need to work a bit on the definition of faster. starting apps isn't necessarily the benchmark to use. try running miui for a few weeks, switch to a custom/stable aosp of sorts for another 2 weeks and come back to miui. then decide if a phone is slower or faster on android one versus miui. some people like miui others like android. it's always a matter of preference. i personally couldn't use miui any more after the first time i switched os versions like this. it just felt wrong.
L.E. the storage speed difference could also be down to encryption being on or off on the 2 terminals. or due to the A/B system of the mi a2. there could be services running on the jasmine that the whyred is not running at the moment. it can be that miui is really better optimized to start apps. if your definition of faster is that then get yourself a whyred. it's your choice to make! always remember that!
L.E.2 "I want it to be the best NOW." you know these are all budget-y phones we're talking about, right?

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it can be that miui is really better optimized to start apps. if your definition of faster is that then get yourself a whyred. it's your choice to make!
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but shouldn't it be even possible to use a whyred GSI on jasmine too? it's a treble phone.

laviniu_c said:
i don't think i agree with you that the first month is the most important for sales. and we need to work a bit on the definition of faster. starting apps isn't necessarily the benchmark to use. try running miui for a few weeks, switch to a custom/stable aosp of sorts for another 2 weeks and come back to miui. then decide if a phone is slower or faster on android one versus miui. some people like miui others like android. it's always a matter of preference. i personally couldn't use miui any more after the first time i switched os versions like this. it just felt wrong.
L.E. the storage speed difference could also be down to encryption being on or off on the 2 terminals. or due to the A/B system of the mi a2. there could be services running on the jasmine that the whyred is not running at the moment. it can be that miui is really better optimized to start apps. if your definition of faster is that then get yourself a whyred. it's your choice to make! always remember that!
L.E.2 "I want it to be the best NOW." you know these are all budget-y phones we're talking about, right?
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Encryption didn't make a difference years ago so I seriously doubt it does nowadays

meltbanana said:
but shouldn't it be even possible to use a whyred GSI on jasmine too? it's a treble phone.
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well miui is device dependent (no plans to make a gsi style image that runs on any treble phone. if xiaomi decided to make one it would be pretty awesome though!) so you can;t run the whyred miui on jasmine. you could maybe port the one from wayne (mi 6x) without too many issues, in fact i think i saw a thread on en.miui.com.
gsi images might work on both yes since they're both shipping with 8.1 (but there's not really needed on jasmine, it's already "clean" android).
but yes, if you want a fair comparison, a gsi running on both might be a better test.

mingogomes said:
Beside, the argument i hear a lot of: "With time is gonna be faster", is complete nonsense for new customers. I don't want warranties on the future, if I'm buying something NOW, I want it to be the best NOW.
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I wish someone would have told Microsoft that about 25 yrs ago... every new version of the OS (that they rushed to market) had 1,000s of bugs that were fixed later on. I don't think mfg's really care about what you want "NOW".

laviniu_c said:
you could maybe port the one from wayne (mi 6x) without too many issues, in fact i think i saw a thread on en.miui.com.
gsi images might work on both yes since they're both shipping with 8.1 (but there's not really needed on jasmine, it's already "clean" android).
but yes, if you want a fair comparison, a gsi running on both might be a better test.
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indeed, sorry, what I mean is the wayne / mi 6x image, same device with miui

There is bunch of tests on youtube comparing note 5 pro and mi A2, and you can see that in many A2 is clean winner.
So, I believe that this tests depends heavily on tester and apps which they choose to use in the tests.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MRiVCxxH80
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubRU1omZM84

Not sure what all the fuss is here. This is a budget phone which is plenty fast and has great features for the price. If you want speed and fastest phone you will have to pay at least twice as much. I am coming from an SD835 phone and I hardly noticeable the difference at all.
As the old saying goes, you get what you pay for.

Ah these are crap test and YouTubers, better trust C4etech, Techdroider, revatlas

mingogomes said:
Hey guys,
how is it possible that a SD 636 is faster than a 660 with Android One?
https://newesc.com/test-velocidad-xiaomi-a2-vs-xiaomi-redmi-note-5/
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that's a bit ridiculous, but I've even seen a guy on steam who claims his GTX1050 is curbed by nvidia and as fast as a GTX1080 with a tweaked driver.

meltbanana said:
that's a bit ridiculous, but I've even seen a guy on steam who claims his GTX1050 is curbed by nvidia and as fast as a GTX1080 with a tweaked driver.
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It is possible to tweak android to load faster apps, you can find on youtube test between S9+ and P20pro.
S9+ has about 240000 antutu score, while P20pro has about 200000.
P20pro beats S9+ in all standard apps and games, because android learned what apps user use the most, and cache them somehow, leaving S9+ in the dust, in real time usage.
It dosen't mean that it is really faster, but it is tweaked with smarter OS.
In "our" case, note 5 pro vs mi a2, of course, it is nonsense, mi a2 is faster, but miui also can be tweaked.
Also, custom roms are usually also tweaked and are faster then stock ones.

minnuss said:
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In "our" case, note 5 pro vs mi a2, of course, it is nonsense, mi a2 is faster, but miui also can be tweaked.
Also, custom roms are usually also tweaked and are faster then stock ones.
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from my experience with the Redmi 4X MIUI is anyway pretty fast compared to Android One on my Mi A1, but rather lousy in regard of doing great shots.
there's other vantages of AOSP-based ROMs like RR, lineage, etc. Now my choice was the Mi A2 only due to the unlock process, improved cam, QC4.0 and CPU.
camera and microphone are definitely an improvement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2Ti8NsmVGE

Its a kernel related bug
Changed some setting and its better

emprazol said:
Its a kernel related bug
Changed some setting and its better
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same results here as well, ~190 mb read, 70 ish write (didn't change anything from stock)
what settings did you change?

IO scheduler
Befor that i got 170mb read and 42 mb write

emprazol said:
Its a kernel related bug
Changed some setting and its better
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It seems is a common issue then

Yes cause mi 6x is the same specs but its faster than a2 hope xiaomi fix this
not like a1 and a draining kernel wakeup ssusb.7000000 after 15 updates and its remained unfixed

Does poco m3 will support custom rom in the future?

Im planning to buy this if theres a custom rom support, do you think guys it will have?

marxcs said:
Im planning to buy this if theres a custom rom support, do you think guys it will have?
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I don't see why it wouldn't. Xiaomi's snapdragon models seem to always have development since it's easy to unlock the bootloader. For development to thrive though, we have to wait till the kernel sources are released, which is about 2 months after release on average.

RXT00 said:
I don't see why it wouldn't. Xiaomi's snapdragon models seem to always have development since it's easy to unlock the bootloader. For development to thrive though, we have to wait till the kernel sources are released, which is about 2 months after release on average.
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ok sir thank you

I hope so. Good thing is that it looks like the Redmi Note 9 4G and the Redmi Note 9 Power share the same specs, except they add a new Ultrawide camera.

Haros1 said:
I hope so. Good thing is that it looks like the Redmi Note 9 4G and the Redmi Note 9 Power share the same specs, except they add a new Ultrawide camera.
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Looks like you're right. They just released the kernel sources and the Redmi Note 9 4G and Poco M3 share the same code. https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/lime-q-oss
Looks like twrp may come sooner than I thought

has anyone unlocked bootloader? I am waiting for some NewYear price falls.
Anyone thought of flashing GSI/treble AOSP images for pure android?
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I had unlock the bootloader and installed EU rom with magisk... I will install AOSP in futur but now it's too early.

Just got the phone, definitely feels slower than it needs to be based on the specs. I am really hoping we see a custom recovery and ROMs soon to see this phone fly. I was checking and the X3 NFC got those 2 relatively quickly post release.

icemasta31 said:
Just got the phone, definitely feels slower than it needs to be based on the specs. I am really hoping we see a custom recovery and ROMs soon to see this phone fly. I was checking and the X3 NFC got those 2 relatively quickly post release.
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No miracles, no custom rom is going to make the phone fly.
For its price it is a very good phone.

jmfb55 said:
No miracles, no custom rom is going to make the phone fly.
For its price it is a very good phone.
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I disagree with your assertion. Even Redmi note 5 pro from three years ago, performs very well without lag on AOSP ROMs. And we all know that SD 662 on the POCO M3 is faster and better than SD 636 on RN5 Pro. So i believe that POCO M3 will perform greatly on AOSP based ROMs.

dustmalik said:
I disagree with your assertion. Even Redmi note 5 pro from three years ago, performs very well without lag on AOSP ROMs. And we all know that SD 662 on the POCO M3 is faster and better than SD 636 on RN5 Pro. So i believe that POCO M3 will perform greatly on AOSP based ROMs.
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The miui roms of that time were loaded with bloadware and not very optimized, so any "clean" rom made an appreciable difference in performance.
Today it is not like that, the current miui roms are quite clean and highly optimized (and can be easily cleaned of the bloadware they carry).
There is not much difference apart from the security issues with the other cleaner android roms.

jmfb55 said:
The miui roms of that time were loaded with bloadware and not very optimized, so any "clean" rom made an appreciable difference in performance.
Today it is not like that, the current miui roms are quite clean and highly optimized (and can be easily cleaned of the bloadware they carry).
There is not much difference apart from the security issues with the other cleaner android roms.
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Yeah, sure...
I have a Redmi Note 7, with the SD660, that phone runs much much much faster, even with slower memory. The Poco M3 can go faster.

jmfb55 said:
The miui roms of that time were loaded with bloadware and not very optimized, so any "clean" rom made an appreciable difference in performance.
Today it is not like that, the current miui roms are quite clean and highly optimized (and can be easily cleaned of the bloadware they carry).
There is not much difference apart from the security issues with the other cleaner android roms.
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Can you link me to some guide as to how to remove that Junk and stop/uninstall apps? This reviewer seems to think you cannot and maybe you could help him too!

You will find all in any of the Miui forum, even in Xda.

hello sir, I'm from future and now Poco m3 have many custom rom