Hi, I know this question has been asked before but I see mixed answers. So I got a used Moto G4 plus off ebay (actually by mistake, i meant to buy an E plus to be used on my existing verizon postpaid account). I know the G4 plus is not officially supported by verizon but I thought I should give it a try anyway.
I tried to pop my sim card from my current verizon phone into it and it doesn't work. when i switched the network to 4g/lte then the G4 can use data but not voice or text. So I am just wondering if I should tinker some more or it definitely will not work because the hardware is lacking. I read posts about how some were able to just put an active sim card in there and get it to work but that was probably a different version of it?
This moto G4 plus is XT1641, build MPJ24.139.23.3, running android 6.0.1. I think this is probably not a "regular" XT1641 because it does say 32gb but only has 2gb ram and only 1 sim slot (the "regular" XT1641 that I looked up has 32gb, 3gb ram and dual sim).
and I did root this moto G4 plus before even checking compatibility. I felt so smart back then but thinking back that was a really dumb thing to do.
Any advice is greatly appreciated!
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After reading this thread I checked the SIM card slot in my newly bought Moto X Style. It looks like there are connecting pins for a second SIM card in there. The SIM tray also has, like in the Moto X Play, a second slot which is blocked by a small plastic cover. I attached some photos.
I live in Germany. I did not buy it from motorola.de but from a local hardware vendor (www.cyberport.de) as they were the only ones which had it in stock.
Question is: could I simply flash an Asian or Brasilian ROM and enjoy dual SIM capabilities? Or does it mess up the LTE frequency bands, modem or anything else?
Let me know what you think.
So could You just put there 2 cards and tell us if it works ? Because i am thinking to buy one. And if its dual then super news !
I tested it, doesnt work....
So what about this flashfile _Style_XT1572_CLARK_RETASIA_DS_5.1.1_LPH23.116-18_cid7_subsidy-DEFAULT_CFC.xml
Thats retail asian file with "DS", that means dualsim ?
Contacts for second simcard are still there i think
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Also here dual SIM hardware present
Just to confirm: I also found 2 blocks in my SIM-tray that are there for both SIM cards (so to support dual sim).
On the moto x play forum someone flashed the Brazilian rom.
He did managed to get it working whith the little plastic cover peeled of.
I also been reading about x play being flashed in some German posts adn working dual sim.
w w w.android-hilfe.de/thema/dual-sim-laesst-sich-offenbar-per-firmware-auf-single-sim-mxps-freischalten.718297
But how about flashed and working x style ?
something new for DS on Style
h t t p s : / / gsmfreeboard.com/showthread.php?t=241778
Cheers from India
Hello buddy,
COuld you pls let know if you were able to flash the ROM for Pure to make it dual sim.
Waiting for the results of your test as the version here in India is too overpriced and not even customizable like in the US.
Please keep us posted on what happened.
Thanks
motiee said:
something new for DS on Style
h t t p s : / / gsmfreeboard.com/showthread.php?t=241778
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My german is inexistent and after Google translation usage I'm not sure if the problem is related to hardware missing parts for card reading or it's a issue regarding the Asian ROM instalation.
Can someone help, please?
So the Geman guy flashed it and he had software dualsim...but he cant choose the second simcard because the second sim wont regonized.....so he tried with two simcards in each slot but no sucess...only the first sim got regonized...
He tried also to flash the brazil DS Firmware but rsd lite gives error message and end the flashing...
So he ask also for a pic of a play simcard slot, to see if there are diefference in hardware....
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So the Geman guy flashed it and he had software dualsim...but he cant choose the second simcard because the second sim wont regonized.....so he tried with two simcards in each slot but no sucess...only the first sim got regonized...
He tried also to flash the brazil DS Firmware but rsd lite gives error message and end the flashing...
So he ask also for a pic of a play simcard slot, to see if there are diefference in hardware....
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Hii... but when did he say that it did not work for him... Waiting on him for a confirmation... But it should work with an asian or brazilian rom flash cuz its only a piece of plastic blocking the 2nd sim card tray... And the good thing is these phones are designed to work in Asia with the support for bands, not all 4G though...
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Hii... but when did he say that it did not work for him... Waiting on him for a confirmation... But it should work with an asian or brazilian rom flash cuz its only a piece of plastic blocking the 2nd sim card tray... And the good thing is these phones are designed to work in Asia with the support for bands, not all 4G though...
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The only way to ensure it's "just" a question of software, is to compare the teardown of a EU version vs a Asian or Brazillian version.
Here you have already a teardown of the pure version. Let's hope someone posts one with the Asian or Brazillian version
Yes, I asked him a question on that video
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The only way to ensure it's "just" a question of software, is to compare the teardown of a EU version vs a Asian or Brazillian version.
Here you have already a teardown of the pure version. Let's hope someone posts one with the Asian or Brazillian version
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I asked him if the phone with 2nd sim tray ripped off that plastic piece make it dual sim but he says there needs to be something that can recognize the 2nd sim which is actually missing and maybe needs to be soldered...
Oh and that soldering part seems like a tough task. Or is it not ??
Brazilian version of the Moto X Style is a "clark" variation of the US with place for two SIMs (only one can be used for data internet) and is named XT1572.
I´ve also read (and watched some photos) elsewhere that the US variant doesn´t have the hardware to support two SIMs.
So they have the same outside skin but they are produced differently.
jglerner said:
Brazilian version of the Moto X Style is a "clark" variation of the US with place for two SIMs (only one can be used for data internet) and is named XT1572.
I´ve also read (and watched some photos) elsewhere that the US variant doesn´t have the hardware to support two SIMs.
So they have the same outside skin but they are produced differently.
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Ok. Then it might be possible to just solder that piece of missing receptor to make the moto X pure as dual sim and then for the software part of the job, flash the phone with a asian rom...
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Ok. Then it might be possible to just solder that piece of missing receptor to make the moto X pure as dual sim and then for the software part of the job, flash the phone with a asian rom...
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I think the motherboard is kind of small. Other than that there must been some hardware missing. I can´t help as I don´t know whats missing.
China's Moto X Style(Pure) is also Dual SIM by default
Dear all:
I am on Moto China's official website and went through the specifications. I*looked at Moto site for "Rest of Asia", Hong Kong, and Rest of Europe.
It seems that China is one of very few region which Moto X*Style is dual SIM by default. This is probably not helping you guys very much because default China's ROM doesn't have any Google framework/app on it. I*will ask Moto*China's tech support and see if I*can obtain an official ROM for this dual-SIM phone and at least support English as well.
Harv
Yep thanks ... The problem and the question is whether we can buy Moto X Pure from the US and turn it into a dual sim phone ??
P.S : The 2nd sim slot of the Moto X Pure is just covered by a piece of plastic, if we can remove it and insert a 2nd sim. Would it really work or what are the complications.
Thanks
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India also has the dual sim variant of Moto X Style but the phone comes in black and white only. Not cuatomizable like in the US
And also i have recently got clues that the Moto X Pure /Style is a lot delicate and many have broken their screens with weak drops.
And really observing that no YouTube or any channel has uploaded a drop test, water test, or any durability test videos of this, it seems like truth, i msged many of the big channels requesting to make that video for durability but non one ever responded, lol, pls tell me the reason if u know guys.
The US gives them a coverage for such accidents but what does the rest of the world do Moto also the irony being that the phone is much more expensive than in the US ??
I have the UK Moto X Style XT1572 and flashed the dual SIM firmware. SIM 1 works and can be used for calls and data but SIM 2 cannot be detected even with a SIM in the slot.
Not sure if this is a software issue or if the Moto X Style doesn't actually have the dual SIM hardware in all the phones. Perhaps the non-dual SIM version is missing the second radio?
If anyone else wants to give it a shot, here's my mirror of the dual SIM firmware: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1ejb0MqRCmAcHFzdnUtbkpIRUE/view?usp=sharing.
Oh ok thats cool you tried but sad that the 2nd sim is not detected. So looks like the issue is with the hardware, can you please post a pic of the inside of the sim and sd card slot so that we ll be able to analyse better and also may i request our frnd from China or anyone with a dual sim version moto x style to post the pic.
Thanks
I really want this phone but I use Verizon and I am not sure if the phone will work on the network. I have heard very conflicting information, Motorola says that it works on all networks and sells a Verizon SIM card, but people on online forums say it does not. Do any of you know if it will work. I do not want to buy the phone just to find out it will not work.
Verizon doesn't play nice with Moto G4 Plus, not a hardware issue but rather something with their ESN whitelist database that wasn't correctly updated with some of the G4 Plus phones. They would rather sell their own branded devices at overpriced rates.
The solution that Moto found is to replace the affected phones (new ESN).
PS: I had Verizon and jumped the ship a long time ago... never to look back.
I and my wife use our G4 Plus phones on Verizon.
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I'll second, I've been using my G4 plus (64/3) on Verizon since September and I have yet to encounter any network problems (acknowledges Murphy's Law).
I didn't even have to go to a store to have it activated, just swapped the nanoSIM (it'll take a regular SIM too) from my ageing MAXX and gave it a reboot.
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I and my wife use our G4 Plus phones on Verizon.
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So, do I have to use an existing SIM card, or can I buy the card from Motorola and hook it up to the network?
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So, do I have to use an existing SIM card, or can I buy the card from Motorola and hook it up to the network???
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I can only say for Verizon, but you should be able to use a SIM that is already activated.
I don't believe that the SIM you buy from Motorola comes activated (the SIM ID gets bound to your account so that Verizon can provide you service (and bill you)), but I can't say for sure. I will mention that you don't necessarily have to buy a SIM, as I have never gone to a Verizon store to switch phones and had them charge me or give me a hard time because I needed a new SIM, but I cant speak for every Verizon store or employee.
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I can only say for Verizon, but you should be able to use a SIM that is already activated.
I don't believe that the SIM you buy from Motorola comes activated (the SIM ID gets bound to your account so that Verizon can provide you service (and bill you)), but I can't say for sure. I will mention that you don't necessarily have to buy a SIM, as I have never gone to a Verizon store to switch phones and had them charge me or give me a hard time because I needed a new SIM, but I cant speak for every Verizon store or employee.
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So, just to make sure, I can use the SIM card from my Galaxy Nexus phone (I know dinosaur ages) in the Moto G4 Plus, right?
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So, just to make sure, I can use the SIM card from my Galaxy Nexus phone (I know dinosaur ages) in the Moto G4 Plus, right???
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According to GSM arena your Galaxy Nexus has a mini-SIM, so assuming that the SIM in your dinosaur is activated you should be able to take it out, put it G4 plus (there is an included Mini-SIM to SIM adapter), give it a boot, and enjoy the 21st century. At least that's how it went I moved from my Droid Maxx to my G4 plus.
Sorry for creating a new thread. Didn't get any answers in original thread. Thought it may be because it was in wrong format.
Has anyone used a Verizon sim card with the international dual sim version? I ask as I have a Mi Mix in which I was able to use Verizon (only for calls) and AT&T (calls and data).
Looking to switch due to multiple small issues. I need to be able to make calls with Verizon on the dual sim. Looks like my options include Axon 7 and One plus 5. The removable battery on V20 makes it attractive for me. If I got any answers to this I could decide one way or other.
Thank you for your help.
What phone would be considered the next step up from the G4 Play? I'd like to keep it at $150, but might consider spending a bit more if it's worth it.
I don't care what brand, don't want a screen bigger than 5" and don't care about camera quality. I pretty much just use the phone for calls/txts, internet and music, so a nice speaker and microphone would be a plus.
Thanks.
adam79 said:
What phone would be considered the next step up from the G4 Play? I'd like to keep it at $150, but might consider spending a bit more if it's worth it.
I don't care what brand, don't want a screen bigger than 5" and don't care about camera quality. I pretty much just use the phone for calls/txts, internet and music, so a nice speaker and microphone would be a plus.
Thanks.
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Consider the G5 plus. Fully unlockable variants hover in the $200 USD range but will likely drop during local holiday promotions.
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Consider the G5 plus. Fully unlockable variants hover in the $200 USD range but will likely drop during local holiday promotions.
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Is there a regular G5 or just the G5 Plus? When I google Moto G5 only the G5 Plus pops up..
I checked out the side by side comparison. How does # of cores/clock speed affect performance vs RAM? The G5 Plus has higher core and clock speed, 8 core/2.0 gHz vs 4 core/1.2 gHz, but the same amount of RAM, 2 GB on both. Will that improve internet load times, or is carrier and reception the only factors for that?
Also, it says that compatible 4G frequencies for MeteoPCS are 700 MHz and 1700 MHz while 3G is 1900 MHz. The G4 Play and G5 Plus cell band is listed as: WCDMA (UMTS) / GSM 850/900/1800/1900 / CDMA2000 1x 1900/850. Does the lack of either 4G frequency slow down the 4G LTE speed? I'm getting LTE 95% of the time, so my G4 Play still works.
Plus the G4 Play is listed as having Verizon for a carrier while the G5 plus has AT&T.
Would it be ideal to get a phone that not only have the compatible frequencies, but on the T-Mobile network, since that's Metro PCS's backbone. Or does none of that make any difference?
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Is there a regular G5 or just the G5 Plus? When I google Moto G5 only the G5 Plus pops up..
I checked out the side by side comparison. How does # of cores/clock speed affect performance vs RAM? The G5 Plus has higher core and clock speed, 8 core/2.0 gHz vs 4 core/1.2 gHz, but the same amount of RAM, 2 GB on both. Will that improve internet load times, or is carrier and reception the only factors for that?
Also, it says that compatible 4G frequencies for MeteoPCS are 700 MHz and 1700 MHz while 3G is 1900 MHz. The G4 Play and G5 Plus cell band is listed as: WCDMA (UMTS) / GSM 850/900/1800/1900 / CDMA2000 1x 1900/850. Does the lack of either 4G frequency slow down the 4G LTE speed? I'm getting LTE 95% of the time, so my G4 Play still works.
Plus the G4 Play is listed as having Verizon for a carrier while the G5 plus has AT&T.
Would it be ideal to get a phone that not only have the compatible frequencies, but on the T-Mobile network, since that's Metro PCS's backbone. Or does none of that make any difference?
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There are three G5 varients; only the G5 Plus is available in the US.
As for your other questions the best answer is to purchase from a distributor with 15-30 day return privileges. Then pop your G4 sim into the G5 and see how it performs. You may have to trim the SIM for the G5 and purchase an adapter for the G4. Good luck.
First time I will say this .... Totally agree with Davey; Moto G5 Plus is a lot better !
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There are three G5 varients; only the G5 Plus is available in the US.
As for your other questions the best answer is to purchase from a distributor with 15-30 day return privileges. Then pop your G4 sim into the G5 and see how it performs. You may have to trim the SIM for the G5 and purchase an adapter for the G4. Good luck.
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How would I trim down the SIM card and what kind of adapter are you referring to for the G4 Play? Also, for an additional $80 you can get 4GB or RAM compared to 2. How does this affect phone lag? I'd like to avoid dealing with a refund. Not only is it a pain in the ass, but you can only activate one phone every three months with metro pcs. I'm not sure if there's a grace period for phone activations...if I had to return the phone and buy a different one, I'm not sure they'd let me activate it.
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How would I trim down the SIM card and what kind of adapter are you referring to for the G4 Play? Also, for an additional $80 you can get 4GB or RAM compared to 2. How does this affect phone lag? I'd like to avoid dealing with a refund. Not only is it a pain in the ass, but you can only activate one phone every three months with metro pcs. I'm not sure if there's a grace period for phone activations...if I had to return the phone and buy a different one, I'm not sure they'd let me activate it.
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The G4 Play uses a micro SIM (larger) while the G5 Plus uses a nano SIM. You can Google options for modifying the size of an existing SIM.
4GB of RAM would be most beneficial if you do extensive multitasking. 2GB is fine for most...especially on a mid-range device. Given your modest budget an additional $80 for 4GB RAM is probably not a good spend.
I am on Sprint. Been on a samsung s4 that had been fairly well rooted, hacked to do a lot of things. Most important: hotspot tethering, and sim unlocked.
Very disappointed that the G5 couldn't do simultaneous LTE data stream while i am talking on the phone (not using VOIP). My old S4 could handle both talking and LTE data streaming at the same time.
Also the G5 has the new security update preventing me from opening up hidden menu to enable tethering.... so that sucks
GPS receiver in G5 also a little weaker than S4
The G5 camera is much better than S4. it's a nicer looking faster phone.... just a little disappointed about a lot of these other things.
I am willing to give the G5 another try only if someone has a lightly used sprint G5 with older security software ver ZV8 or earlier so i can use the hidden menu apk PM if you have one for sale.