Brilliant phone. - LeEco Le Max 2 Guides, News, & Discussion

Does anyone else think that even years later this phone is still a fantastic phone even in line with mainstream phones coming out now? I've passed up on upgrading on my contract 2 years running now, since my mate gave me the le max 2 not long after it came out. Even looking at the latest Samsung's and and other top of the range phones coming out, I don't see any point in upgrading, the le max with the latest roms that are still being developed, and this phone, I believe is on a par with anything, the hardware is great, I've not had a single issue with anything on this phone at all, not even a slight blip, it's been %1000 solid and I believe will be for a long time still. I look at the latest phones on the market and think, what benefits are there over this, and I see none at all, this phone still runs smooth as butter, runs anything I've ever attempted to play on it perfectly. I just can't believe how good it's been, I don't plan on getting rid of it any time soon and never in my life have I had the same phone for so long, but to not have a single fault with it in all that time either, just makes this a brilliant phone. That's all I wanted to say haha, and maybe see if anyone else agrees with me?

Heyyo, I most definitely do as well! It's really impressive how much tech they crammed into this device while keeping it really affordable. It was more than $100 CAD cheaper than a OnePlus 3 and an official release of LineageOS was all the confidence I needed to buy one.
It works great for me and yeah I also don't really see a reason to upgrade heh.
It's really too bad that Jia Yeuting screwed up LeEco so bad when the Le Max 2 and Le Pro3 and their friendliness to unlocking bootloader and kernel source code were examples of how much potential LeEco had if they kept up with devices like this...
I'll be keeping my Le Max 2 for quite and while and keep contributing to the community ROM scene as much as I can! We will continue the work that LeEco started. :good:

Yeah it is great, and the best part for me is I didn't even pay for mine I have a friend who works for twitter and they basically give him a new phone every few months, to use, but to also test out and stuff at the same time, this was one of them. He gave me last year the nexus something or other, I used it for 5 minutes then put it straight on ebay
I have not updated my rom for like a year or so, and I was starting to worry about the lack of security patches and stuff so decided to freshen it up, and I was shocked how active development still is. Just shows that even if nobody else posts here, this phone is still super popular and widely used

A year ago I was starting to get frustrated with it, but then Google Camera HDR+ happened plus a stable Oreo and it's a totally new device now! All thanks to the amazing work of the community!

mjoach said:
A year ago I was starting to get frustrated with it, but then Google Camera HDR+ happened plus a stable Oreo and it's a totally new device now! All thanks to the amazing work of the community!
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I know, it is great, my sister just got the galaxy s9 and thinking she was great, I was like your phone cost like triple the price mine did brand new and doesn't really do anything that mine doesn't. What made it even funnier was the fact that hers only has android 8.0 and thanks to the awesome devs on here, mine has 8.1 she was not happy With this new rom it really is a whole new phone and I love it even more now, I did briefly brick it last night haha, but managed to sort it out thanks to the brilliant TWRP and adb sideload

Still loving mine after... a couple of months short of two years I think. Was really future-proofed with 4GB RAM, fast UFS storage, 1440p display and best of all the beast SD820 which has aged well and is still respectably powerful. What a bargain. And the fantastic Oreo custom ROMs we now have make it even better than it was originally and keep it bang up to date and relevant. There are just two things I wish were different about the phone - I wish it had better battery life, and I wish it had black top and chin bezels because the black borders on the display look bloody ugly with the gold top and bottom and would be much less noticeable if all black.

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Still loving mine after... a couple of months short of two years I think. Was really future-proofed with 4GB RAM, fast UFS storage, 1440p display and best of all the beast SD820 which has aged well and is still respectably powerful. What a bargain. And the fantastic Oreo custom ROMs we now have make it even better than it was originally and keep it bang up to date and relevant. There are just two things I wish were different about the phone - I wish it had better battery life, and I wish it had black top and chin bezels because the black borders on the display look bloody ugly with the gold top and bottom and would be much less noticeable if all black.
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Exactly it's still running perfectly now even compared to the latest phones. The black screen edges have never bothered me, but you're not the only person I've seen that doesn't like them. As for the battery, mine was fantastic, would last 2 days easy, even with an average amount of usage, only now I've updated to Oreo, the battery is much much worse, so may need to try all the latest ROMs to find one with the best battery life.

beta546 said:
Exactly it's still running perfectly now even compared to the latest phones. The black screen edges have never bothered me, but you're not the only person I've seen that doesn't like them. As for the battery, mine was fantastic, would last 2 days easy, even with an average amount of usage, only now I've updated to Oreo, the battery is much much worse, so may need to try all the latest ROMs to find one with the best battery life.
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Heyyo, if you want as much battery life as possible? Resurrection Remix Power Saver is the Oreo ROM that focuses on that. :good:
RRPS-O International
https://t.me/rrpsointl

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Heyyo, if you want as much battery life as possible? Resurrection Remix Power Saver is the Oreo ROM that focuses on that. :good:
RRPS-O International
https://t.me/rrpsointl
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Oh cool, please would you post the link for me? I see three RR ROMs in development section.
I do believe it was RR that I came from, but I installed that last rom over a year ago so can't quite remember haha

beta546 said:
Exactly it's still running perfectly now even compared to the latest phones. The black screen edges have never bothered me, but you're not the only person I've seen that doesn't like them. As for the battery, mine was fantastic, would last 2 days easy, even with an average amount of usage, only now I've updated to Oreo, the battery is much much worse, so may need to try all the latest ROMs to find one with the best battery life.
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Which ROM did you used that you got 2 days of battery life?

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Which ROM did you used that you got 2 days of battery life?
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I couldn't tell you, until the other day, the last time I'd flashed a new ROM was over a year ago, but like I said, I think it could have been RR, but either way that rom is old, a year plus. And I'm not talking two days heavy use, was like 2 days of average use sending messages, the odd phone call, Google searches and stuff like that.

Excellent phone.
I bought this phone for 200$ a year ago and till now I haven't found any smartphone as good as le max 2 under 250$.
All my friends also like this phone very much.
Only con for me was the crappy Chinese UI which came in build but thanks to the excellent development group, stable oreo roms have taken this phone to a new level.
I will use this phone for another 2 years.

arpit1234567 said:
I bought this phone for 200$ a year ago and till now I haven't found any smartphone as good as le max 2 under 250$.
All my friends also like this phone very much.
Only con for me was the crappy Chinese UI which came in build but thanks to the excellent development group, stable oreo roms have taken this phone to a new level.
I will use this phone for another 2 years.
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Yeah that was the only downside, all the Chinese junk on it. But yeah the custom ROMs make it perfect. I am surprised because there was less development going on for this phone when it first came out than there is now. And I agree, I genuinely believe I'll be using this for another 2 years easily, if not more. I just don't see any upside to paying out money for a new phone that would not perform any better than this already does, and may only have an extra hardware feature or something else like that. I mean even if a new phone had triple the ram and triple the CPU power, what's the point? This phone runs everything perfectly fine, no amount of power is going to make a smoother experience than something that's already as smooth as you can get haha. I get no lag at all doing anything with this phone, and I've never had any issues running any games, even stuff I've seen that is incompatible with this device on the play store, I download it elsewhere and it runs perfectly haha. All I need to do is find another Oreo ROM with better battery than this one.

beta546 said:
Oh cool, please would you post the link for me? I see three RR ROMs in development section.
I do believe it was RR that I came from, but I installed that last rom over a year ago so can't quite remember haha
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I think he just released a new release candidate which isn't part of those last few work in progress builds so I'd search that group for replies by Sergey as he is the maintainer of rrps.
RR Nougat was officially maintained by andr68rus who has moved onto the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 and there was an old and buggy Official release of RR O by unvesh but tbh they should just take that down as unvesh put out on release version and then bailed for a Xiaomi Mi A1...

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I think he just released a new release candidate which isn't part of those last few work in progress builds so I'd search that group for replies by Sergey as he is the maintainer of rrps.
RR Nougat was officially maintained by andr68rus who has moved onto the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 and there was an old and buggy Official release of RR O by unvesh but tbh they should just take that down as unvesh put out on release version and then bailed for a Xiaomi Mi A1...
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Ah okay thanks for that. I'll have a proper look later from the computer. I'm sure my last ROM was RR but that was a marshmallow ROM, so pretty old, but the battery life was really good whatever it was haha.

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Ah okay thanks for that. I'll have a proper look later from the computer. I'm sure my last ROM was RR but that was a marshmallow ROM, so pretty old, but the battery life was really good whatever it was haha.
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Ah ok yeah for MarshMallow I'm pretty sure he also maintained it but that's quite a while back so I could be wrong hehe :silly:
He also maintained OmniRom official and AOKP unofficial and DU unofficial. They were pretty darn good. I really liked his AOKP Marshmallow builds they were slick.

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Ah ok yeah for MarshMallow I'm pretty sure he also maintained it but that's quite a while back so I could be wrong hehe :silly:
He also maintained OmniRom official and AOKP unofficial and DU unofficial. They were pretty darn good. I really liked his AOKP Marshmallow builds they were slick.
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Haha yeah it was over a year ago when I first used a custom ROM on this phone. It was only 3 days ago I finally upgraded to Oreo, mainly because I was worrying about the lack of any security patches in all that time. I'm really glad I did because it's like a new phone now, just a shame about the battery drain, I don't spend long periods out of my home so it's not a massive issue, I've been trying to find a fix for the network standbys battery drain which at the moment is using %30 of my battery and seems to be common to all Oreo ROMs and even the stock ROMs on new phones.

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Haha yeah it was over a year ago when I first used a custom ROM on this phone. It was only 3 days ago I finally upgraded to Oreo, mainly because I was worrying about the lack of any security patches in all that time. I'm really glad I did because it's like a new phone now, just a shame about the battery drain, I don't spend long periods out of my home so it's not a massive issue, I've been trying to find a fix for the network standbys battery drain which at the moment is using %30 of my battery and seems to be common to all Oreo ROMs and even the stock ROMs on new phones.
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Heyyo, unfortunately that is the Achilles heel of the Le Max 2... Cellular radio. The hardware is not very good compared to other devices released around the same time for the radio antennas in our device which is why a common complaint about the Le Max 2 is low signal quality a lot of the time...
On LineageOS 15.1 I tried to mitigate that issue by using Xiaomi Mi5 (Gemini) vendor blobs for all cellular radio activities but it's still a bandaid on a broken bone and only does so much... I don't know of any hardware mods to improve the cellular radio antennas on our device which in theory would do a better job of fixing the issue

Agreed this phone is still a beast. I've been on Omnirom 7.1.2 without problems since I got it and have felt no need to upgrade to Oreo. Are there any actual plusses, apart from reduced battery life?

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Heyyo, unfortunately that is the Achilles heel of the Le Max 2... Cellular radio. The hardware is not very good compared to other devices released around the same time for the radio antennas in our device which is why a common complaint about the Le Max 2 is low signal quality a lot of the time...
On LineageOS 15.1 I tried to mitigate that issue by using Xiaomi Mi5 (Gemini) vendor blobs for all cellular radio activities but it's still a bandaid on a broken bone and only does so much... I don't know of any hardware mods to improve the cellular radio antennas on our device which in theory would do a better job of fixing the issue
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To be honest I never even knew there was an issue with the radio, I've never had any issues with low signal, in fact I switch my network from LTE to gsm/wcdma preferred so I only get 3g not 4g as on 3g my signal is much better and I get up to 3 mb/s downloads and on 4g is usually less than 1 mb/s so in theory the radio should use less power with a good signal as it only boosts the power in low signal situations. Also on my last ROM I never had an issue with it draining battery, after draining a full charge, network standby was usually around %5-%10 of the total usage, since coming to Oreo a full drain to %1 has network standby as %30 of the total drain.

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My thoughts after 3 months of use

Originally I wanted to buy Oneplus 3 but I wanted something smaller in size, so I opted for H8. I must say i was delighted with the design and '''in hand'' feel. Also, i was tricked with the whole XDA support thing, which turned out to be a disaster with no help whatsoever from Huawei side. The ''bang for the buck'' term turns out to be a little overhyped.
The biggest feature of this phone was camera which is pretty good, but it's no better than other single sensor units found in large variety of devices. Sometimes even my old Galaxy alpha took better pictures, especially close-ups. Also, focus is a litlle slow to say at least. I didn't expect to get ''best of the best'' so I was satisfied, but this hype about the camera was just advertising and nothing else.
The screen is a little bit dimmed, even by IPS standards, and I've seen better. (I'm not making a comparison with OLED)
Signal reception & quality was excellent and I had no problems with it whatsoever. The story was different with Wifi speed, especially with the lack of it. Compared with my other phones it was about 60% slower with both devices connected on 2.4gHz freq., so that's a fail.
Now, i have to mention the worst thing and that is software and support. Ok, EMUI is quite different than stock android so most people are not happy about it, but I didn't mind that at all. The most Important thing is that everything is fluid and working smoothly, which was not always the case. I noticed slowdowns and I had to resolve them by clearing cache every now and then. News about Nougat update were welcome and I was so excited to get it. Unfortunately, EMUI 5 is a complete mess. The fact that it looks nice doesn't mean that it works nice. It's filled with bugs and battery life is average, if you're lucky. I don't understand why they released the update if it's not finished, obviously. It should be fluid, fast and consistent, at least if they want to compete with other brands (btw samsung is even worse, you don't even get updates with them).
The biggest highlight for me is the one all the reviews valued as average at best, and that's battery life. I get 6,7,even 8hrs of SOT, and that's a hell of a stat.
Conclusion is....if i had a choice all over again, i would take something else probably. Unfortunately I have to live with it now, and I hope our devs will manage to sort out everything and release a stable Lineage, and we should all make a donation. Only they can make this device worth using for a few years, cause Huawei will certainly not.
I apologize if someone disagrees with me...tell me your thoughts...
I feel you on some of the stuff, i dont have any crazy issues other than the auto brightness and the security patch is still stuck on Dec.2016
Wifi with 5ghz is flawless for me plus the part about slowdowns is a little odd considering the one great strength at this price point is the cpu.
I never have any noticeable slowdowns.
The battery life is surprising though. Without gaming i may get around 5h SOT on Emui 5 B380.
Would you mind sharing usage statistics or any other information about how you pull that off?
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Quite frankly I'm in sort of a love/hate relationship with the phone. I can't really say that EMUI 5 does that bad since it really just works during daily use but at the end of the day i simply don't want it and i dislike the overall feel and style of the software.
This is really the only big letdown for me.
Qualitywise though it's a blast considering that I paid 350€ for it and I still am very happy with it in that regard.
But it's a nobrainer forcing me to use the stockrom and if that policy doesn't change it'll be the last Huawei/Honor phone for me
- Actually scratch the wifi part, i get 60mbps down with the phone compared to the 100-120 i get with my 5 year old wlan stick
Although I think with the H8 it depends strongly on signal strength. I remember it being a lot better when i first tested it
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SharxX8 said:
Wifi with 5ghz is flawless for me plus the part about slowdowns is a little odd considering the one great strength at this price point is the cpu.
I never have any noticeable slowdowns.
The battery life is surprising though. Without gaming i may get around 5h SOT on Emui 5 B380.
Would you mind sharing usage statistics or any other information about how you pull that off?
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Quite frankly I'm in sort of a love/hate relationship with the phone. I can't really say that EMUI 5 does that bad since it really just works during daily use but at the end of the day i simply don't want it and i dislike the overall feel and style of the software.
This is really the only big letdown for me.
Qualitywise though it's a blast considering that I paid 350€ for it and I still am very happy with it in that regard.
But it's a nobrainer forcing me to use the stockrom and if that policy doesn't change it'll be the last Huawei/Honor phone for me
- Actually scratch the wifi part, i get 60mbps down with the phone compared to the 100-120 i get with my 5 year old wlan stick
Although I think with the H8 it depends strongly on signal strength. I remember it being a lot better when i first tested it
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I must admit that I'm not a really heavy user. I mostly use whatsapp, web browsing and youtube, and a litlle bit facebook and instagram. Only gmail is set to auto sync. Also I disabled all unnecessary apps. So, only the essential things are running and I'm using EMUI 4.1. I tried out EMUI 5 and my SOT was at least 2hrs less. Talking about wifi, I had the same situation after testing a few times, both on 4.1 and 5.0. My speeds were about 60mbps, and other phones about 120/130 mbps.
I'm dissapointed with the fact that Oneplus One feels like a much faster device, even though it's 3 years old. It has excellent support, and when I flashed 7.1 on it the thing just flies like hell, I was amazed! Don't get me wrong, this is just a personal observation without any real testing but the software use was just excellent.
I just managed to install 1.3gb and 300mb update via FF...I will report if I see any changes, at least concerning battery life.
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I feel you on some of the stuff, i dont have any crazy issues other than the auto brightness and the security patch is still stuck on Dec.2016
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I completely understand. Some people maybe don't pay so much attention on details, or maybe I'm just a perfectionist.
But:
1) Auto brightness i messed up
2) battery life on EMUI 5 is crap, at least according to large number of users
3) Auto dimming in contacts/sms/browser etc.
4) status bar icons flicker when unlocking with fingerprint
5) Animation break during uninstalling apps from ''apps submenu''
6) bluetooth issues
7)............
If they release an update it should be done right, and not like this
I've had the phone for 2 months. I haven't tested the Wi-Fi bc I get really fast lte at home and have unlimited high speed data. The Wi-Fi has been fine when I've used i but can't compare. I prefer nougat to mm but I had the same experience with battery life...plus rooting process with twrp wasn't very clear. The battery life on mm is amazing. I haven't experienced any slow downs. MM with nova launcher works well for me. I'm actually very happy with this phone.....especially only costing $250. But really the only thing I excuse for price is the lack of nougat....the rest works well enough for me. I came from nexus 5x so this camera is better. I wish there was more development but I'm actually quite happy with emui and think I'd stay rooted stock even if I had another option.
I sold muy HTC 10 ando bought the honor 8, and was the BEST decisión I could made, fast, dont lag att all, 6-8 SOT easily and 24 hours of charge, atand by time 1-2% in 11 hours, great looks, great camera, i like miui, is very customizable, the only bad thing os the development, but besides that, i give Honor 8 10/10
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I've had the phone for 2 months. I haven't tested the Wi-Fi bc I get really fast lte at home and have unlimited high speed data. The Wi-Fi has been fine when I've used i but can't compare. I prefer nougat to mm but I had the same experience with battery life...plus rooting process with twrp wasn't very clear. The battery life on mm is amazing. I haven't experienced any slow downs. MM with nova launcher works well for me. I'm actually very happy with this phone.....especially only costing $250. But really the only thing I excuse for price is the lack of nougat....the rest works well enough for me. I came from nexus 5x so this camera is better. I wish there was more development but I'm actually quite happy with emui and think I'd stay rooted stock even if I had another option.
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I agree. And I'm not saying the phone is bad. MM is fine but I like Nougat even more (if it only worked as it should). Lack of support is the biggest issue unfortunately...
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I sold muy HTC 10 ando bought the honor 8, and was the BEST decisión I could made, fast, dont lag att all, 6-8 SOT easily and 24 hours of charge, atand by time 1-2% in 11 hours, great looks, great camera, i like miui, is very customizable, the only bad thing os the development, but besides that, i give Honor 8 10/10
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I must admit that EMUI 5 feels much snappier...If they fix the bugs I will update immediately. But I'm not so optimistic.....If we have to wait a year for the update and fixes that's too much. Security patches are also outdated, and what about 7.1..... :crying:
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I must admit that EMUI 5 feels much snappier...If they fix the bugs I will update immediately. But I'm not so optimistic.....If we have to wait a year for the update and fixes that's too much. Security patches are also outdated, and what about 7.1..... :crying:
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What bugs are you talking about, i havnt found any :s? Im información Nougat.
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What bugs are you talking about, i havnt found any :s? Im información Nougat.
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Then you are very lucky check my previous post above... Even if everything else is working flawless, 2hrs of SOT less is a big deal.
For me, it's more like: hardware is quite neat but the software is a mess. With the kernel sources not being released by Huawei there is no chance for me to use Lineage as a daily driver. Therefore it's my first and my last Huawei device.
I have had my honor 8 since they first came out.
I was on the UK beta group.
I have not messed with my phone at all, only had the official OTA updates and I must say that I have had no trouble with my phone at all.
It's the best phone I have had.
It's the only phone that I have not rooted.
For my everything works and works well.
The battery with the 380 update is not as good as the 360 but I'm still getting a full day and I'm hammering my phone all day.
The only complaint is with honors reluctant release of the kernel code for EMUI 5 and that we are not getting EMUI 5.1
I'm a happy Honor 8 owner
John
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I have had my honor 8 since they first came out.
I was on the UK beta group.
I have not messed with my phone at all, only had the official OTA updates and I must say that I have had no trouble with my phone at all.
It's the best phone I have had.
It's the only phone that I have not rooted.
For my everything works and works well.
The battery with the 380 update is not as good as the 360 but I'm still getting a full day and I'm hammering my phone all day.
The only complaint is with honors reluctant release of the kernel code for EMUI 5 and that we are not getting EMUI 5.1
I'm a happy Honor 8 owner
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Likewise, ever since I upgraded to Nougat a couple of months ago, I did not have any real issues either, and I am a power user (I can't really make a comparison about the SOT on MM, because I didn't check the statistics before upgrading, although I have noticed a slight decrease in battery life, but by no means a 2-3 hour difference), so I can't complain
If you have all this problem i think your honor is bugged.... I have some result with Nougat as mm.... The some sot 5 hours with 16/17 hour standby 4g with 3 mail push WhatsApp ecc... I have forced installation of 380 and reset.... No problem At all
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If you have all this problem i think your honor is bugged.... I have some result with Nougat as mm.... The some sot 5 hours with 16/17 hour standby 4g with 3 mail push WhatsApp ecc... I have forced installation of 380 and reset.... No problem At all
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What are you meaning by saying that you think our phones after bugged ?
You think there is a bug in the 380 update ?
I definitely think that they have got something wrong with this update.
I have replied it via Honor UK Google+ and for the first time they hadn't replied
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If you have all this problem i think your honor is bugged.... I have some result with Nougat as mm.... The some sot 5 hours with 16/17 hour standby 4g with 3 mail push WhatsApp ecc... I have forced installation of 380 and reset.... No problem At all
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Lucky you but, no it's not bugged. I tested every update, official OTA, Firmware Finder etc....they all have bugs, b360 and b380. If you're trying to say that only small percentage of units is working well then the situation is even worse. That means 8 out of 10 devices is broken out od the box. Considering I was getting up to 8hrs SOT on marshmallow compared with max 4-5 on nougat I think these updates are crap, and yes, I tested all of them including "one week usage", factory resets after updating etc... Now i see people have problems with gyro sensors also...that doesn't surprise me...
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For me, it's more like: hardware is quite neat but the software is a mess. With the kernel sources not being released by Huawei there is no chance for me to use Lineage as a daily driver. Therefore it's my first and my last Huawei device.
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Totally agree with you...nicely said.
As I see it: Huawei won't do jack sh*t about this issues. They released a phone that is, let's say, working excellent (on MM), it looks beautiful, has famous dual camera setup etc. People here have some complaints but it's not gonna make much difference I'm afraid. After seeing the device in person and a few good reviews they will buy it, so did I. Let's be honest, regular consumers just don't care about updates, source codes and all that stuff. I know my girlfriend doesn't have any clue what Nougat is...
Unfortunately, all members of XDA community are a minority and maybe some of us will never buy Huawei phone again, but there are plenty people out there that will.
So, sales go up, money accumulates no matter what we say. I get it, why would they make the effort to make a few people happy.....who gives a damn.
Lack of care for consumers is annoying but at least we have a large variety of devices to choose from so...next year make your choice wisely
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Lucky you but, no it's not bugged. I tested every update, official OTA, Firmware Finder etc....they all have bugs, b360 and b380. If you're trying to say that only small percentage of units is working well then the situation is even worse. That means 8 out of 10 devices is broken out od the box. Considering I was getting up to 8hrs SOT on marshmallow compared with max 4-5 on nougat I think these updates are crap, and yes, I tested all of them including "one week usage", factory resets after updating etc... Now i see people have problems with gyro sensors also...that doesn't surprise me...
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So,i am very lucky
I have buy 3 honor and all works well both with mm and nougat.
I am very happy and lucky

Is Le Pro 3 right for me? Advice please.

I'm sick to the back teeth of my Galaxy S7 Edge.
My battery life has taken a nosedive in the last year, and I hate the 'edge' screen which is more of a nuisance than anything. Performance isn't anything to write home about either, considering the hardware inside it - it lags and jitters occasionally (although it is generally quite fast).
Every time I get a Samsung phone I end up wanting to go back to a vanilla Android one. And I don't want to root this S7E because unlocking the bootloader trips a firmware fuse, permanently breaking your ability to use Android Pay and voiding the warranty,. I wouldn't care if I was keeping the phone but I want to sell it.
So the reason I'm in this forum is to find out whether the Le Pro 3 is going to be a good fit for me. The hardware specs I am happy with. But I need to know if stock Android ROMs are fully 100% stable & able to be used as a daily driver? I've looked at a few of the ROMs in the dev forum and they all seem to mention IR not working and 4K recording not working. If that's all that's wrong then I could live with that. I am well past the stage of wanting to flash my phone every week, I want to 'set and forget'.
So if you could give me your honest opinion of the phone itself with an AOSP ROM that you use and any drawbacks, then I would really appreciate it.
4k is working now. TBH even the leeco's EUI isnt half bad once you flash one of the debloated rom's that you can find on here, and is incredibly smooth/and battery efficient.
Regarding nougat, from my own exp., it's been my daily for a month now. I find it extremely stable, havent had a single crash, suddenr reboot or whataoever. My personal favouritr is Omni, smooth as can be, but have tried Lineage and RR, no complaints there either. I use my phone all the time, charge it over night, and get regularly over 10h SOT thnx to @darkobas, some kernel tweaks, and leeco of course for jamming in 4000mah of battery lol.
I have Lex720 3-4 months, never find single issue with this phone. Roms, I flashed many of them, atm i am on stock 6.0 TARS 23S by Steve Mars I like this one everything works good, good battery life.
But I don't use my phone a lot, no game, everyday I got over 50% juice left can use it for another day. It's comparable to Oneplus3/3t for performance, battery life maybe better. If you don't care about headphone jack it's as good as any phone I think and it's 300$, can't beat it.
Best phone at its price you can get!
Great hardware specs, jack isnt even needed tbh you can get cdla earphones and everything will be good. Especially with dolby+viper you will be amazed.
Only con i find is camera at low light conditions (day light its fine) but thats fixable if leeco updates the software regarding img processing and i believe we will se improvements with EUI Nougat. Also no OIS but it has EIS.
Regarding rom, tora 23s,debloated 20s and now miui that is been worked on by also tora and turbo are great roms.
I dont like CM roms but as far as i have seen in postsk omni rom is great.
Seriously the phone is a beast and if we give it a little more time all roms will be finalized.
Point is, are you going to buy it with the launch of mi6 plus? If i were you i would wait to see the full specs and price.
I am using latest stock 21s with root and underclock. Performance good and battery life is also insane.
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Best phone at its price you can get!
Great hardware specs, jack isnt even needed tbh you can get cdla earphones and everything will be good. Especially with dolby+viper you will be amazed.
Only con i find is camera at low light conditions (day light its fine) but thats fixable if leeco updates the software regarding img processing and i believe we will se improvements with EUI Nougat. Also no OIS but it has EIS.
Regarding rom, tora 23s,debloated 20s and now miui that is been worked on by also tora and turbo are great roms.
I dont like CM roms but as far as i have seen in postsk omni rom is great.
Seriously the phone is a beast and if we give it a little more time all roms will be finalized.
Point is, are you going to buy it with the launch of mi6 plus? If i were you i would wait to see the full specs and price.
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What he said. Also, I use the provided USB-C to 3.5 adapter with my sony earphones, the sound is excellent!
I bought the Lepro after 3 years of Nexus 5 ownership, and while I adore that thing to death and though it was going to be near impossible for me to find a phone who I'd find a worthy replacement, it was riddled with battery issues/wakelocks and crap from day 1. The lepro just blew me away, and still does.
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4k is working now. TBH even the leeco's EUI isnt half bad once you flash one of the debloated rom's that you can find on here, and is incredibly smooth/and battery efficient.
Regarding nougat, from my own exp., it's been my daily for a month now. I find it extremely stable, havent had a single crash, suddenr reboot or whataoever. My personal favouritr is Omni, smooth as can be, but have tried Lineage and RR, no complaints there either. I use my phone all the time, charge it over night, and get regularly over 10h SOT thnx to @darkobas, some kernel tweaks, and leeco of course for jamming in 4000mah of battery lol.
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What tweaks did you do?
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What tweaks did you do?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/how-to/advanced-interactive-governor-tweaks-t3476589
OP3T ones work on our phone, same SOC. I used them as a basis to make my own two scripts that I toggle via a QS tile
I've had this phone for a while and everything is great except the camera quality, you will see a huge difference compared to S7 Edge.
Phone is running very stable with LineageOS 13, i use it as my daily driver and i don't have any problems so far.
Not interested in Xiaomi phones. I did consider the Mi5+ (i think) before i got my S7E but when i read about the hoops you have to jump thru to unlock the bootloader then i lost all interest.
testreaper said:
Best phone at its price you can get!
Great hardware specs, jack isnt even needed tbh you can get cdla earphones and everything will be good. Especially with dolby+viper you will be amazed.
Only con i find is camera at low light conditions (day light its fine) but thats fixable if leeco updates the software regarding img processing and i believe we will se improvements with EUI Nougat. Also no OIS but it has EIS.
Regarding rom, tora 23s,debloated 20s and now miui that is been worked on by also tora and turbo are great roms.
I dont like CM roms but as far as i have seen in postsk omni rom is great.
Seriously the phone is a beast and if we give it a little more time all roms will be finalized.
Point is, are you going to buy it with the launch of mi6 plus? If i were you i would wait to see the full specs and price.
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I've read all the replies and I'm still on the fence. Mainly because I'm one of those people who doesn't like buying a phone unless it's brand new, ie right at the start of its life-cycle!
I held off to see what the Le Max 3 would be like when it was announced, but I assume no Snapdragon processor = no dev interest and no ROMs.
You guys are knowledgable about Chinese phones - what else is coming out soon? I would wait for the OnePlus 5, but I've read that they're going with an edge screen (that I'm desperate to get away from). I like the idea of a Snapdragon 835 and 6GB RAM though.
Is there anything else on the horizon that I should be considering?
if you dont need a phone right now then you can wait a couple of months, the axon should be announced soon, also the honor pro 8 is already out
If u want support and great specs just go for mi6, period. The only phones i would buy would be either huawei or xiaomi from chinese brands. Leeco was the only exception because at that time nothing compared to its specs plus i am not a heavy-camera user so it was just the phone i needed.
If i were you right now i woudlnt go for it to be honest. Just my personal thoughts though.
Edit; If i was given again the opportunity to buy out of all 821sd phones i would still go LP3. I am not dissapointed at all. But right now i dont think its worth it with the launch of 835. Although the diffence is not great its better to have the latest phone.
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If u want support and great specs just go for mi6, period. The only phones i would buy would be either huawei or xiaomi from chinese brands. Leeco was the only exception because at that time nothing compared to its specs plus i am not a heavy-camera user so it was just the phone i needed.
If i were you right now i woudlnt go for it to be honest. Just my personal thoughts though.
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For Xiaomi phones no development, for me right now the best buy is Oneplus 3t
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I'm sick to the back teeth of my Galaxy S7 Edge.
My battery life has taken a nosedive in the last year, and I hate the 'edge' screen which is more of a nuisance than anything. Performance isn't anything to write home about either, considering the hardware inside it - it lags and jitters occasionally (although it is generally quite fast).
Every time I get a Samsung phone I end up wanting to go back to a vanilla Android one. And I don't want to root this S7E because unlocking the bootloader trips a firmware fuse, permanently breaking your ability to use Android Pay and voiding the warranty,. I wouldn't care if I was keeping the phone but I want to sell it.
So the reason I'm in this forum is to find out whether the Le Pro 3 is going to be a good fit for me. The hardware specs I am happy with. But I need to know if stock Android ROMs are fully 100% stable & able to be used as a daily driver? I've looked at a few of the ROMs in the dev forum and they all seem to mention IR not working and 4K recording not working. If that's all that's wrong then I could live with that. I am well past the stage of wanting to flash my phone every week, I want to 'set and forget'.
So if you could give me your honest opinion of the phone itself with an AOSP ROM that you use and any drawbacks, then I would really appreciate it.
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I hope I'm not late to this thread. Please do not buy this phone. There is no UNBRICKING support for this device whatsoever.
Please look around in this matter. There are about 5 threads of sudden deaths of this phone on Leeco.re, 3 more threads of sudden death of this device on leeco official forum where they will make u a bouncing ball and about 4 or 5 bricked threads over here on xda. This device is highly unreliable and shady after-sale support.
Until you live in a country where leeco officially retails (like india, HK, china) please refrain from buying this phone. I really hope you do not end up into a trashcan like I did when I bought Le Pro 3 without my ground work. I loved the phone until it lasted.
Your best bet is to get One Plus 3T which despite its expensiveness, has extended AOSP support and genuinely amazing community so far.

-Discussion- Mi Mix 1 Vs Pixel XL (thinking about leaving :'( )

Sighh.. so guys, i had my mi mix for about 6 months and i loveD this phone. but i feel like its come to the end of the line already.
MIUI is basically unusable for me, missed notifications, calls missed by delay of ring & late notifications, group texting is horrible, camera image processing sucks, OS crashes etc. (all this before rooting mind you)
But after rooting all of those issues went away....for a bit.
so since day 2 i had it rooted running lineageOS and switched to RR, but 3 months later and up til today i started experiencing:
Slight screen burn
Constant OS Crashes/Random Reboots
Cell Signal dropping in areas that it didnt while running MIUI
Still bad camera image processing
Call Audio dropping extremely low when volume is Maxed
Bluetooth disconnects while my phone is in my pocket (didnt happen on MIUI)
and several other things.
I work in I.T. and cant have some of these things happening while at work.
I started looking at alternative devices and since the Pixel 2 is too dang much for my pockets I'm considering the Pixel XL.
I hate that the screen is 5.5 inches over my 6.4 but I need something nice that works. I'm wondering if i left if I'd be happy or nah?
Personally, the screen real estate and battery life the mi mix provides are too good to leave for a mere 5.5 inch phone. Also, I'd rather have 1080p over 1440p as I consider it a waste. I don't mind the lcd over amoled, I love the screen just fine, and I don't take lots of pictures so I'm not really bugged by the camera. Overall I consider the pixel xl an ugly ass phone and think it'd be crazy to change your beautiful and futuristic mi mix with that humongous display for an ugly small screened phone that doesn't even have a better processor. Hope it helped
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Personally, the screen real estate and battery life the mi mix provides are too good to leave for a mere 5.5 inch phone. Also, I'd rather have 1080p over 1440p as I consider it a waste. I don't mind the lcd over amoled, I love the screen just fine, and I don't take lots of pictures so I'm not really bugged by the camera. Overall I consider the pixel xl an ugly ass phone and think it'd be crazy to change your beautiful and futuristic mi mix with that humongous display for an ugly small screened phone that doesn't even have a better processor. Hope it helped
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what are ur thoughts on the G6 or Huawei Mate 9?
The way you are talking you seem to have made up your mind already.
I find it odd though that I'm not experiencing any of the symptoms you mentioned.
My guy u do realize your 1 in the possible thousands of people that own this phone correct? Nobody's device is perfect. This is what I'm experiencing personally not the whole mi mix end user list. The only thing I have made up in my mind is that my phone isn't gonna last forever as my daily driver because of these issues so I'm seeking suitable alternatives before I make the jump.
Get the oneplus 5t, it will be coming soon and has a newer processor than the pixel xl. Or s8+ if you can get it for a decent price in whichever country you're from.
I've always rooted and modified whatever phone I've had and I can say I love miui it's smooth it's fast it has built in theme support which is what I mainly rooted for I'm sorry you've had issues u gave miui only 2 days before u jumped ship I would flash stock miui 9 from epicrom and see if issues resolve before downgrading to pixel XL....but with the recent software improvements and price drop essential phone should be a consideration before pixel XL it's newer it has SD 835 and screen size you're used to and at 449 u can still get 450 for mi mix easy and be out no money just my .02
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I've always rooted and modified whatever phone I've had and I can say I love miui it's smooth it's fast it has built in theme support which is what I mainly rooted for I'm sorry you've had issues u gave miui only 2 days before u jumped ship I would flash stock miui 9 from epicrom and see if issues resolve before downgrading to pixel XL....but with the recent software improvements and price drop essential phone should be a consideration before pixel XL it's newer it has SD 835 and screen size you're used to and at 449 u can still get 450 for mi mix easy and be out no money just my .02
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Appreciate the reply! I'll give this a shot, although I dont see why stock android wouldnt give me a better experience than MIUI. I used to love miui back in versions 6 & 7, and im not saying its bad now but i just had a bad experience with it on this device. but ill definitely give it another go!
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Get the oneplus 5t, it will be coming soon and has a newer processor than the pixel xl. Or s8+ if you can get it for a decent price in whichever country you're from.
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Thanks ! im in the USA, but i was trying to stay around that 500-600 price point, the S8+ is kinda pushing it being as though its $724.99 over here. the one plus is definitely a contender for the future though
I would try a few other ROMs before getting a different phone. AICP has been rock solid for me now for months.
One issue your having is the custom roms - I tried them all and more or less they all get buggy over time [some more than others]. I run stock global and its has next to never crashed [fc'ed], call quality is fine and carrier permitting the notifications [network related ones] show up fast / local ones never get missed.
Two the pixle only has a camera that's better, screen is worse more or less - storage is A LOT worse and you don't even really get a more durable device.
Been using mine as my daily driver since I picked it up in late Jan 2017 - its really never failed me as long as I didn't go rooting / fiddling with things. That brings me back to something I mentioned awhile back in another post. Miui doesn't like to be tampered with - roms based on this tend to become unstable [been using miui roms since 2008 or so and the behavior has never really changed]. The non miui roms are stable enough until you go messing with them too [especially visually]. In addition to that many of the custom roms seem to leave things out, often little things but they add up to annoyances.
Its your money - but the Pixel isn't the one I would go for if your looking to replace this thing. Its not that good a phone. Look at the Mate 9 / 10 series or some other designs.
Hi everyone!
I recover this thread some time later because I am very sadly considering selling this wonderful device. Development is very poor and doesn't look to get any better and that is a crucial point for me. I mean, I have a Nexus 5, left out from official Google development a long ago, and community's very strong and development is never stopping, great kernels, some good Oreo builds... It is very sad when compared to the Mix.
I love this big guy but probably will sell it soon and move to ... That's the problem! To what??
This discussion was carried out a while back and some new players have appeared since then. What are your opinions? What would be the best alternative?
Top of the game specs and big screen are musts for me and those two features combined make it real difficult ...
Thanks in advance!
albertoduqe said:
Hi everyone!
I recover this thread some time later because I am very sadly considering selling this wonderful device. Development is very poor and doesn't look to get any better and that is a crucial point for me. I mean, I have a Nexus 5, left out from official Google development a long ago, and community's very strong and development is never stopping, great kernels, some good Oreo builds... It is very sad when compared to the Mix.
I love this big guy but probably will sell it soon and move to ... That's the problem! To what??
This discussion was carried out a while back and some new players have appeared since then. What are your opinions? What would be the best alternative?
Top of the game specs and big screen are musts for me and those two features combined make it real difficult ...
Thanks in advance!
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Mi mix 3 looking good.
james1089 said:
Mi mix 3 looking good.
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LoL that's an extremely unrealistic rumour.
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albertoduqe said:
Hi everyone!
I recover this thread some time later because I am very sadly considering selling this wonderful device. Development is very poor and doesn't look to get any better and that is a crucial point for me. I mean, I have a Nexus 5, left out from official Google development a long ago, and community's very strong and development is never stopping, great kernels, some good Oreo builds... It is very sad when compared to the Mix.
I love this big guy but probably will sell it soon and move to ... That's the problem! To what??
This discussion was carried out a while back and some new players have appeared since then. What are your opinions? What would be the best alternative?
Top of the game specs and big screen are musts for me and those two features combined make it real difficult ...
Thanks in advance!
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Well, we have AOSiP that is going to be updated to oreo soon, and the new notification system in the MIUI developer rom made me have interest in MIUI again.
I agree that the development is poor (although the ones that do/did develop are/were awesome) and its sad to see developers leave but Im proud to own the device that pioneered the bezeless screen and even does it better than the modern flagships (and the MI MIX 2 ) and it is the most beautiful brick in the world.
My plan is to wait for oreo from AOSiP and meanwhile try the MIUI developer rom again with the new notification system (I cant afford a new phone so I have no other choice ).
About alternatives, I think the honor v10 is a great alternative (low price and great hardware and software) Although there is almost zero development in xda for this phone (because of the kirin processor) but EMUI is now great after the EMUI 5 update and huawei phones are a part of the first phones that got the oreo update so the support from huawei is good.
But In my opinion the best alternative is the OnePlus 5T and I think I dont have to explain why :laugh: .
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It does, but plenty of believable sites also mentioned this device.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/12/xiaomi-mi-mix-3s-alleged-back-cover-case-surface.html
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LoL that's an extremely unrealistic rumour.
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Have you seen the Samsung version of that concept? Same full screen and they're saying maybe out by 2019 Galaxy Z phone is what it may be called
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omerbagi10 said:
Well, we have AOSiP that is going to be updated to oreo soon, and the new notification system in the MIUI developer rom made me have interest in MIUI again.
I agree that the development is poor (although the ones that do/did develop are/were awesome) and its sad to see developers leave but Im proud to own the device that pioneered the bezeless screen and even does it better than the modern flagships (and the MI MIX 2 ) and it is the most beautiful brick in the world.
My plan is to wait for oreo from AOSiP and meanwhile try the MIUI developer rom again with the new notification system (I cant afford a new phone so I have no other choice ).
About alternatives, I think the honor v10 is a great alternative (low price and great hardware and software) Although there is almost zero development in xda for this phone (because of the kirin processor) but EMUI is now great after the EMUI 5 update and huawei phones are a part of the first phones that got the oreo update so the support from huawei is good.
But In my opinion the best alternative is the OnePlus 5T and I think I dont have to explain why :laugh: .
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Yeah more or less in the same spot. Still waiting and hoping for the guys behind AOSiP, AICP and Viper to bring Oreo to the Mix And maybe some new developer to get the phone and play around with it a bit.
The OP5T does look cool, probably the best value right now in the market. Maybe similar to Mix 2 although dev support is probably better for OP devices in general.
One thing about new notification shade: it is supposed to be there in the 7.12.8 beta (only china beta) , but it is not there in the same release of xiaomi.eu... Haven't tried official MIUI but I find it strange that it is not in the xiaomi.eu mod. Know something about it?
Searched miui forum and read changelogs and stuff and didn't actually find anything clear on the matter. And no official global beta since 7.5.25 I believe...
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It does, but plenty of believable sites also mentioned this device.
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/12/xiaomi-mi-mix-3s-alleged-back-cover-case-surface.html
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Yeah, back cover seems OK but that full display screen is kinda fairy tale. I and some were expecting Mix 2 to come as +6,4'' screen with less bezels and it became worse. So I keep my expectation about the display screen a bit low.
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Didn't see it yet. Samsung perhaps does a bit better job over unlimited screen but they cut from edges and put it to top/bottom. Jeans' pockets are not capable to make them fit lol. What a PITA.
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Yeah, back cover seems OK but that full display screen is kinda fairy tale. I and some were expecting Mix 2 to come as +6,4'' screen with less bezels and it became worse. So I keep my expectation about the display screen a bit low.
Didn't see it yet. Samsung perhaps does a bit better job over unlimited screen but they cut from edges and put it to top/bottom. Jeans' pockets are not capable to make them fit lol. What a PITA.
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https://youtu.be/uuYcR7daXRs you can check it out here, it almost looks identical to what is seen in the mi mix video excluding the three cameras on back
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Its time to upgrade one plus one

I am using one plus one from last 4 years. But after waiting long time I switched to one plus 6 as my daily driver here is video review for my personal use.
https://youtu.be/M1KKLnabsRo
What do you think is it right thing I have done by upgrading? I personally feeling premium one after upgrading.
It's big YES from me...
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I am using one plus one from last 4 years. But after waiting long time I switched to one plus 6 as my daily driver here is video review for my personal use.
https://youtu.be/M1KKLnabsRo
What do you think is it right thing I have done by upgrading? I personally feeling premium one after upgrading.
It's big YES from me...
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Going to OnePlus 6? well good but isn't like the price difference as it was in the past, thinking of getting a nokia 7 plus to give my gf this phone, not that I have any issue with the phone, CarbonROM CR6.1(android 8.1) performs great but why not have twice the battery life if I can? ..plus the fact that my gf has a lenovo with a terrible mediatek cpu and only 8GB of storage - it's so slow
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Going to OnePlus 6? well good but isn't like the price difference as it was in the past, thinking of getting a nokia 7 plus to give my gf this phone, not that I have any issue with the phone, CarbonROM CR6.1(android 8.1) performs great but why not have twice the battery life if I can? ..plus the fact that my gf has a lenovo with a terrible mediatek cpu and only 8GB of storage - it's so slow
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I personally prefer one plus because it has great xda community support than any other device when i feel bored i can do lots of experiments lol
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I personally prefer one plus because it has great xda community support than any other device when i feel bored i can do lots of experiments lol
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Yes but twice the battery seems so appealing
i believe nokia does not allow one to unlock it's bootloader.
evronetwork said:
Yes but twice the battery seems so appealing
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My one plus one battery still working good even after 4 years its giving me 4 HR SOT AND 20 hrs of overall usage in one charging cycle i am bit disappointed with 6 because its nowhere to this.
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My one plus one battery still working good even after 4 years its giving me 4 HR SOT AND 20 hrs of overall usage in one charging cycle i am bit disappointed with 6 because its nowhere to this.
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what's the SOT for your 6?
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what's the SOT for your 6?
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Its hardly reached 4 hr and last. Longer only for 11 to 15 hr in one Charging cycle
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Its hardly reached 4 hr and last. Longer only for 11 to 15 hr in one Charging cycle
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What? your op6 battery life?
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What? your op6 battery life?
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sad for oxygen os, maybe he needs to charge a few more cycles, maybe he needs to switch off some stuff
some xiaomi phones getting 8hours SOT, custom rom / stock rom
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sad for oxygen os, maybe he needs to charge a few more cycles, maybe he needs to switch off some stuff
some xiaomi phones getting 8hours SOT, custom rom / stock rom
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I think my next phone is google phone, I love the smooth on that which never find on any other phone even install AOSP on them. Only these phone can have that smoothess is Sony anh HTC but they dont have lastest and fastest android version and sercurity patch on their phone (U11 still stuck at 8.0 and Dec 2017 security patch). Even nokia phone power by android one is lag too. Now I only root to control battery charged level threshold to save battery life and increase volume step but in android P google increase volume step to 20 and thats fine to me, also accubattery can alert me when it charged to specific level so I think time to say goodbye to custom rom soon. You can see most active phone in stats lineage is old phone
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I think my next phone is google phone, I love the smooth on that which never find on any other phone even install AOSP on them. Only these phone can have that smoothess is Sony anh HTC but they dont have lastest and fastest android version and sercurity patch on their phone (U11 still stuck at 8.0 and Dec 2017 security patch). Even nokia phone power by android one is lag too. Now I only root to control battery charged level threshold to save battery life and increase volume step but in android P google increase volume step to 20 and thats fine to me, also accubattery can alert me when it charged to specific level so I think time to say goodbye to custom rom soon. You can see most active phone in stats lineage is old phone
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i would love to have a pixel too but it's expensive
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i would love to have a pixel too but it's expensive
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Same situation at my country, its price same as new samsung s8
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sad for oxygen os, maybe he needs to charge a few more cycles, maybe he needs to switch off some stuff
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Ya may be it need to be settle for some may be some More charging cycles.
I think to go for Oneplus 6 unless the Lenova Z5 releasing tomorrow is really a miracle.
If opt oneplus 6 I am confused which model - mirror or midnight ? , I read few articles on it but still unable to.I will use a case , but durability (both are glass though) and pure black is my thing , White one on the way but not for me.
Note : I have nexus 6 and Oneplus 1 - to know me.
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My one plus one battery still working good even after 4 years its giving me 4 HR SOT AND 20 hrs of overall usage in one charging cycle i am bit disappointed with 6 because its nowhere to this.
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Imagine Nokia 7 Plus with a more power efficient SoC and better performance than 1+1
I've changed my battery in 1+1 and replace it with Blade's ..easy mod if you have "hands"
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Imagine Nokia 7 Plus with a more power efficient SoC and better performance than 1+1
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Imagine Nokia 7 Plus with a non-unlockable bootloader...wait, don't.
I've been using the OPO since october 2014, and i'm very happy to announce that i'll move to the OP6. All i can say about the OPO is "what a great piece of technology", for four years i've never had a real issue with it or anything botherig me, and all of that thanks to this wonderful community of XDA. What can i say ,you've been keeping this phone alive so we don't have to change it each 1 or 2 years like other brand(i usually laugh at my friends changing their samsungs or HTCs or whatever) because it becomes laggy and buggy. Really what a phone to still perform as good as new in 2018 after 4 years, and i chose the OP6 in stead of other phones even if i found the S9 or the note8 at the same price with discounts just because of the community( despite the performance and the rest). After all they are only better than the OP6 in term of camera( that i don't use that much and the OP6 one is not bad after all) and the screen which i don't see the utility, because i prefer by faaar a usefull phone with a FHD screen than a laggy one after 2 years with QHD. Even if my phone is still good for another 1 year or more, i think it's time to switch, i will give it to my mother because i don't see the point of selling it( i prefer to put it in a drawer than to sell it for 100$ lool). And i prefer to choose this comunity because, unlike the other ones, this one is more active, and even when sometimes OP doesn't fix something, the community does.
I hope i've been usefull and helpful for some people these years and thank you aaallll for helping me when i needed help.
Even though i don't have the latest and greatest, My OPO with SultanROM is running good with only occasional hiccups. Waiting for some good offers to upgrade. OP6, Honor 10, Mi8, Discounted Pixel 2 XL in pipeline. If i wait too long till Pixel 3 get's released. Will move on to it. As of now, no pressure of upgrading at all.
Mr.Ak said:
Imagine Nokia 7 Plus with a non-unlockable bootloader...wait, don't.
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Well I'm evaluating my options as my gf would need a new phone soon and I have a chance in getting something better(not that I'm not happy with 1+1 ..carbon rom makes me quite happy these days BUT why not have moaaaaar battery life? )
Xiaomi Mi 8 SE seems a great alternative BUT ...no B20 band support so it's a bust. Xiaomi Mi 8 is promissing but 6.21" display seems big and it's bigger than our phone although it has smaller bezels
Xiaomi Mi 8 SE with 5.88" and smaller dimensions would be amazing(SDM710) but that B20 band support is troublesome
..Still searching for anything that fit my needs while it won't exceed 300e mark
P.S. In order to achieve the best security if phone is lost, the bootloader should be locked - The coin always has two sides

Still using Kenzo? How long do you plan to keep it?

Just a casual discussion thread about kenzo.
I won this beast in March 2016. Redmi India Facebook page hosted a contest on the day they launched this phone in India and I won it. It was unbelievable at that time. Sadly I was sent the 2gb/16gb version. Less sadly, it didn't cost me a single penny.
I have been using this beast since then. I had been using Redmi 2 before I got it. But the new bootloader unlock policy was pretty daunting and I kept using miui for the first two months.
When I finally unlocked it, I flashed the leaked factory 5.1 lollipop rom. It was rock stable and served me for almost a year. Then i shifted to Nos Nougat and in January 2018 i shifted to Nos Oreo. After almost 8 months, I'm back to Nougat because I realized Nougat was much more stable.
Battery has declined to 79 percent of its original capacity and is somewhere around 3100 mAh now. (checked using Accubattery app). I'm still pretty happy with the battery backup. Internal storage(16gb) is the only frustrating thing about this phone.
I was really tempted to buy Note 5 Pro or Zenfone Max Pro M1 but now i think i'll hold off till February for the Note 6(pro).
Kenzo is beast of a device and if I wasn't burdened with 16gn storage, I would probably use it for another full year.
What's your experience with kenzo?
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this year i see other phones but i see my pocket and... hahah
really i think:
my phone is for little apps/ClashRoyale/Navigate/Play music/Pay with QR Codes.
and this phone had good battery... good hardware, at this moment 3gb device is very good for me (but my next device i try to buy with 4gb or 6gb) with a new Qualcomm 6xx again.
today... i dont need other phone (but is a good moment to resell this in my country).
in other words i buy my next phone in the last quarter of 2019. (Xiaomi again).
im very happy with this device.
I own my beast from October 2016 and boi its my first personal new phone and I will never sell it. Lollipop was what it came with but soon installed and marmsallow 8.1.1.0 if remember. Then I after 4months of miui I unlocked bootloader and got into the world of custom roms. I tried AOSiP nougat first 7.1.1 and it was the best back then and gave me 10hrs sot always if anyone wants to know it was 31/1/2017 build of AOSiP. Then came Oreo 8.0 which was worse than 7.1.1 and then 8.1 in December 2017 with pixel experience. I love my redmi very much but I am planning to get the essential phone but as I said never sell this kenzo.
Using mine since October 2016 and still loving it. Was tempted by Redmi note 5 pro but only because of camera otherwise my phone satisfies all needs. Will use it until it stops working or screen gets cracked. Then I will buy the latest Redmi phone with dual camera.
Gonna change the battery and use it till it dies on me
I will use it till I get into college. Probably next year.
I got this beast in about August of 2016, rooted as soon as warranty expired. Then I was actually waiting for MIUI nougat for this and after I got tired I installed nos, I didn't really like it, and tried RR, was really happy with it and then shifted to oreo rr later. Now using havoc pie, pretty smooth. I know there are many new devices right now and My parents wouldn't really mind buying me new one. But I just love my phone. It beautiful and it never lets me down. So I'm gonna keep it for a long time. How much? Tbh I don't know.
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I own my beast from October 2016 and boi its my first personal new phone and I will never sell it. Lollipop was what it came with but soon installed and marmsallow 8.1.1.0 if remember. Then I after 4months of miui I unlocked bootloader and got into the world of custom roms. I tried AOSiP nougat first 7.1.1 and it was the best back then and gave me 10hrs sot always if anyone wants to know it was 31/1/2017 build of AOSiP. Then came Oreo 8.0 which was worse than 7.1.1 and then 8.1 in December 2017 with pixel experience. I love my redmi very much but I am planning to get the essential phone but as I said never sell this kenzo.
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Can you give me proper link?
because i only found dead links..or if you have file
thanks.
i planned to use it till it ded. probably have to change the battery too..
It was love at first sight for me, I read about this device on one of my local news site, and I just couldn't resist, its price and design was perfect, and still is. The 4000mAh battery, the fingerprint sensor was a big deal for me. The development for this phone was amazing, and still is, even after 2,5 years. I hope Kenzo development will still be active, good to see some new devs around here and for now
I repaired mine some days ago and looks like brand new Ordered back cover and screen from Ebay, swapped the motherboard and the other parts into the new one and it rocks just like in its golden age.
Until the phone can't accept new android version of course ?
Still a nice phone although already 2 years old, then the development still strong too until now, that's what i like from this device
battery? i've changed 1 times bcoz the first one is getting worse after i playing the phone but with charging, and always charging at night..
fingerprint? yeah i remember i changed that bcos the first quarter of oreo development for kenzo and some ported miui nougat rom, the supported fingerprint only fpc, but shortly after that, the goodix patch came up wtf ?
emmc? willing to change that too if only the rom development still going up
so i haven't any reason to change for now, really happy to have kenzo
(although sometimes want poco f1, but not for now ?)
I will definitely keep using it untill next android version comes up
When I bought my Kate, I thought it will be just a temporary device until I find something better for the price - better specs, better camera, same price as the phones are getting cheaper with time.
Since 2017 january this is my primary device and until here on XDA I see that there are still developers who build usable and fast roms for this phone (or something happens and my device ends up in pieces) I'm not even thinking about changing it... maybe I surprise myself with a new phone for my graduation next year, but this will be a Xiaomi device with snapdragon too, who knows, maybe a new Redmi note or a Poco.
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shaon121 said:
I will definitely keep using it untill next android version comes up
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LOL, I said exactly the same when nougat rolled out ages ago and still using this with pie (I'm not laughing on you, I'm laughing on myself and the situation )
Love my RN3 (Kate) but its time as a daily driver is officially over - I just bought the Honor 10 last night, so...
I have been on NOS since Oreo but all of a sudden my camera and bluetooth started having trouble and crashing A LOT.. I can't reflash my daily driver all the time so onwards and upwards I guess!
Will totally keep my RN3 for games cause battery life and general fluidity are still ace. Might load it up with Pie down the line and keep it as a secondary.
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Love my RN3 (Kate) but its time as a daily driver is officially over - I just bought the Honor 10 last night, so...
I have been on NOS since Oreo but all of a sudden my camera and bluetooth started having trouble and crashing A LOT.. I can't reflash my daily driver all the time so onwards and upwards I guess!
Will totally keep my RN3 for games cause battery life and general fluidity are still ace. Might load it up with Pie down the line and keep it as a secondary.
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Actually it'll work best on Nougat because of the simple fact that our devs had lot of blobs from Mi Max which had the same chip and got official miui nougat. Oreo is also good but it'll never be as stable as nougat.
I got kenzo in august 2016 I believe, before I had Nokia X, one of the first Nokia phones to come with android. So this year I moved to whyred (RN5).
My experience with Kenzo (3/32GB) was great, best phone I ever had, best community and one of the best custom rom support. After I installed gcam, the phone value and awesomeness grew even bigger.
Of course I've also had issues, my phone came with goodix fingerprint, we all know how all the newest roms had problems with this sensor and most weren't supporting it from the start, but as I said above the community was and still is great and some people found solutions very fast.
In december 2016, I dropped my phone on asphalt. This was the result https://imgur.com/L1rPzis
I was so angry with the situation, my beautiful phone, with an ugly crack on it's screen. Luckily the digitizer wasn't damaged and the screen worked.
After a while some yellow spots started appearing in the upper left corner down to middle, but only when the phone was hot and it was noticeable on grey and white backgrounds.
I took a picture of the screen while phone was warm https://imgur.com/RG9qAaa Even the MI logo from the back came off https://imgur.com/mMxbtMH
So I used it like this until June this year, after I got RN5, I didn't used it much. But I also didn't want the phone to die in this horrible state, so guess what I did, ordered a display with frame and silver back like original from aliexpress. I will also order a new battery from my country for like 10 dollars. My phone battery also is around 3100 mAh according to accubattery.
Also power button and volume up register twice sometimes, because those plastic claps from the frame broke and back cover doesn't attach all the way, that's why I bought screen with frame, also easier to move parts from one frame to another.
Maybe next week the parts arrive, I could post an update maybe. I want to keep this phone as long as I can because it's legendary.
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I got kenzo in august 2016 I believe, before I had Nokia X, one of the first Nokia phones to come with android. So this year I moved to whyred (RN5).
My experience with Kenzo (3/32GB) was great, best phone I ever had, best community and one of the best custom rom support. After I installed gcam, the phone value and awesomeness grew even bigger.
Of course I've also had issues, my phone came with goodix fingerprint, we all know how all the newest roms had problems with this sensor and most weren't supporting it from the start, but as I said above the community was and still is great and some people found solutions very fast.
In december 2016, I dropped my phone on asphalt. This was the result https://imgur.com/L1rPzis
I was so angry with the situation, my beautiful phone, with an ugly crack on it's screen. Luckily the digitizer wasn't damaged and the screen worked.
After a while some yellow spots started appearing in the upper left corner down to middle, but only when the phone was hot and it was noticeable on grey and white backgrounds.
I took a picture of the screen while phone was warm https://imgur.com/RG9qAaa Even the MI logo from the back came off https://imgur.com/mMxbtMH
So I used it like this until June this year, after I got RN5, I didn't used it much. But I also didn't want the phone to die in this horrible state, so guess what I did, ordered a display with frame and silver back like original from aliexpress. I will also order a new battery from my country for like 10 dollars. My phone battery also is around 3100 mAh according to accubattery.
Also power button and volume up register twice sometimes, because those plastic claps from the frame broke and back cover doesn't attach all the way, that's why I bought screen with frame, also easier to move parts from one frame to another.
Maybe next week the parts arrive, I could post an update maybe. I want to keep this phone as long as I can because it's legendary.
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Do you have link where you ordered battery?
armo1111 said:
Do you have link where you ordered battery?
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I haven't ordered yet, but the store is in Romania, if it helps I'll provide you with link http://www.magazingsm.ro/acumulator-xiaomi-original-438
Or you could try ordering one of these
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400...8.0&pvid=92baf464-8d42-4024-982e-e42b27f53e9d
Although no guarantees that the capacity is 4000 mAh.
Saicoth said:
I haven't ordered yet, but the store is in Romania, if it helps I'll provide you with link http://www.magazingsm.ro/acumulator-xiaomi-original-438
Or you could try ordering one of these
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400...8.0&pvid=92baf464-8d42-4024-982e-e42b27f53e9d
Although no guarantees that the capacity is 4000 mAh.
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Thanks man.
using from 21 sept 2016
2 times replace battery,, fake battery 1st. . .3rd party then
1 time replace screen,, brick after drop it
**has plan to upgrade but confused between Poco or 2nd hand V30
even my Kenzo still good to go

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