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How is oneplus's trackrecord when it comes to updates and dev?

Not sure where to ask so I thought this would be the best place.
I'm waiting to decide what will be my next phone and oneplus 3 is one of my top 2 choices but before I wanted to know your opinion on something.
What kind of track record does oneplus have when it comes to system update? I mean are they slow like Samsung, fast like google nexus or....
Also dev community seems to be pretty good one oneplus phone. Am I right?
Or any other info that will help me. I'm not new to the rooting and unlocking world but really don't know much about oneplus.
Thanks in advance.

Official updates from the company s*cks.
But XDA devs solve it by making custom updates/roms.
So my advice is wait for +3 because the only oneplus device which gets/got the most attention for updates and custom work was +1

Thank you
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i dont think the 3 will be any different. source code was available for the one because cyanogen are very GPL complaint, right now development is at stand still because oneplus aren't giving any sources for marshmallow

This is a tricky topic to give you an answer for because so many of us have biased opinions.
I've been developing for Android since day one(2008) and have seen/used it all. True "Open Source" developers tend to deliver solutions faster than most OEMs will or ever will. OnePlus does have very good Tech-Support considering you really need it or ever will use it.
On the terms of updates; OnePlus has been sluggish (as most OEMs are) at delivering updates in a timely fashion. Reason being is that OEMs are constrained to delivering an almost 100% "bug free" release on most/all software. A lot of R/D and testing is required before an "Official" update will be released and even then its rolled out in batches.
This is just my "2 Cents Worth" so take it in the context it was intended. I personally have enjoyed my experience with OnePlus over all other OEMs that I've used thus far.
Keep in mind that the support and experience you will receive from other developers and users here on XDA should keep you updated and happy.
Sent from my OnePlus 2 running H2OS

Honor 7 Source Code Petition

Hi,
I'm maybe not the first one to do it but I made a petition about Huawei/Honor not giving source code of Honor 7. Honor published the source code of Honor 5 but why not H7? We need Driver Sources, otherwise devs won't be able to develop ROMs.
If you can share it, we'll get more signatures
It's available here
Counter: 13
Thank you, Nex

Maybe it would be more effektive if you d be more specific about what they habe to Release.. they ve allredy released the Kernel sources, but the Thing that is Missing and is elementary for Rom devs are the Driver sources..

It's not very likely they'll release the driver code.

Just remember that it took several years for Xiaomi to release source code...

Nexx_ said:
Hi,
I'm maybe not the first one to do it but I made a petition about Huawei/Honor not giving source code of Honor 7. Honor published the source code of Honor 5 but why not H7? We need Driver Sources, otherwise devs won't be able to develop ROMs.
If you can share it, we'll get more signatures
It's available here
Counter: 13
Thank you, Nex
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Source codes are already published by the Honor, so please stop making petitions, and as far as the ROMs are concerned, we need a solid device tree, on which some devs are working on to make it possible.
So I kindly request you to not make this kind of threads from now on asking for source codes from Honor for Honor 7, as they are already released.
You can take a look at it here, this thing spitted out the DigiKernel v1.1

DigiGoon said:
Source codes are already published by the Honor, so please stop making petitions, and as far as the ROMs are concerned, we need a solid device tree, on which some devs are working on to make it possible.
So I kindly request you to not make this kind of threads from now on asking for source codes from Honor for Honor 7, as they are already released.
You can take a look at it here, this thing spitted out the DigiKernel v1.1
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At least it's clear now ! Thanks

Nexx_ said:
At least it's clear now ! Thanks
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No worries mate, always here to help.

jerryhou85 said:
Just remember that it took several years for Xiaomi to release source code...
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Gave away my Mi2s. But I still like the other gadgets I own from Xiaomi.
The development of Miui is unbearable. It´s bugs after bugs and locked boots. And support for older devices is short to nonexistent, they tend to abandon old models too soon.
What about translations made by 3rd party volunteers? And noncoherent update policy?
A nightmare that resulted in the loss of massive market share. They were once the biggest Chinese phone brand but now are 4th or 5th.
Miui is a very good idea badly executed.

zinko_pt said:
Gave away my Mi2s. But I still like the other gadgets I own from Xiaomi.
The development of Miui is unbearable. It´s bugs after bugs and locked boots. And support for older devices is short to nonexistent, they tend to abandon old models too soon.
What about translations made by 3rd party volunteers? And noncoherent update policy?
A nightmare that resulted in the loss of massive market share. They were once the biggest Chinese phone brand but now are 4th or 5th.
Miui is a very good idea badly executed.
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Indeed, at the beginning they grab quite a market share by MIUI, then release its own low budget phones, that was totally a hit in China market. After that, other companies like HUAWEI, MEIZU, OnePlus and others find the same gold mine and do their own jobs. Without much patents or "hardcore" fans, Xiaomi falls down quickly.

jerryhou85 said:
Indeed, at the beginning they grab quite a market share by MIUI, then release its own low budget phones, that was totally a hit in China market. After that, other companies like HUAWEI, MEIZU, OnePlus and others find the same gold mine and do their own jobs. Without much patents or "hardcore" fans, Xiaomi falls down quickly.
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They actually boasted a lot their products were bottom up and they had engineers listening to consumers in forums to incorporate their suggestions into future releases. Oh how consumers complained for several months for fixes that they never delivered.
So Huawei it's very good in comparison, just need to fix/optimize MM fast charge, battery in 4G and multiusers.

zinko_pt said:
They actually boasted a lot their products were bottom up and they had engineers listening to consumers in forums to incorporate their suggestions into future releases. Oh how consumers complained for several months for fixes that they never delivered.
So Huawei it's very good in comparison, just need to fix/optimize MM fast charge, battery in 4G and multiusers.
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HUAWEI starts to provide "powerful" phones since last year, from Honor 3C, 4X and so on. It looks like the first years of Xiaomi, hope HUAWEI can make this trend last longer and provide a long support period for its devices. If not, open source its kernel and let developers and fans to have a longer life of a phone with decent hardware.

Honor USA Support for devices, Updates.

I know I already posted a thread basically saying that the Honor 5X won't be getting Android 7.x Nougat in the USA, but this is for the USA, I am unaware about other regions. So after having a conversation with a Honor USA representative named David B, my morale and skepticism of the support for the device went up and left me quite re-assured where I was satisfied. Here is the conversation:
David B
Hi there! Thank you for reaching Honor Device USA. How may I be of help today?
Jordan
Hi, I was wondering if the Honor 5X will get the Android 7.0 Nougat update in the future?
David B
Great question!
We get that one a lot.
I believe at this time there are no plans for it.
Jordan
Will it be possible in the future if that is so? Because I was told by another support representative that it will top off at the current 6.0.1 Marshmallow.
And that only the Honor 8 will get it.
David B
I would have to agree with them at this point. We havent gotten any news of an update to 7.0 for the 5x.
I believe the Honor 8 and 6P are getting 7.0.
Jordan
Ah ok, well if that is the case, will the Honor 5X still be support with software updates for the software like the EMUI and android security patches and more things?
Because me along with a lot of others are still stuck on a outdated Android Security patch, which is the May 1st one, and there recently was news that Huawei, the Company that owns Honor, just fired or "downsized" the Honor USA team.
So I'm quite skeptical on if the Honor 5X will be supported anymore, despite your company promising up to 24 months of support for the 2 devices (Honor 5X/8)
Is that true?
David B
That info has not been made available to me. As far as I know, the Honor 5x and 8 are our big guns right now so I cannot see support ending any time soon.
Plus I like my job and hope this isnt true!
Jordan
Ah ok, well, at least that provides me with more positive moral and reinforcement then what I've read from some other news and tech outlets that wrote about this.
I'm just concerned because I haven't gotten any type of software update for my device in well over a few months.
David B
No reason to worry sir. We just moved to a center that is 5 times the size of our old one and the Honor campaign is hiring lots of people.
Jordan
As my last question, I was wondering if the Honor 5X development team is going to release a update for the Honor 5X any time soon?
David B
As far as I know there is a patch in the works but I don't have a time frame for that.
Jordan
Thank you for being very "not vague" and informative today David, I appreciate it. Have a good day.
David B
My pleasure! You are most welcome!
Was there anything else I could do to assist you?
Jordan
No, thank you, have a good day.
David B
At the end of this chat there may be some questions regarding my service. Please answer honestly!
Jordan
I will.
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Thanks for contacting Honor and do have an awesome day!
SO IF YOU TL : DRed it, here is basically what this post is mainly about. I checked with some Honor USA support representatives regarding if the Honor 5X (KIW-L24) was going to get Android 7.x Nougat in the future, and one said no, and this one basically said no too, but this representative was very transparent and kind enough to provide additional information on sort of how the situation is going on with the company and the 2 phones and their development so far. So thumps up for this one and the other AND the company for having pretty good customer service despites being a budget phone and a small company of a big one (Huawei>Honor) (Still waiting for KIW-L24 to get updates, still on CUST567D003 and May security patch xD)
Good job to Honor for the good customer support (again x2) and this representative and notifying that support for the device is at least high in priority. Hoping for a new OTA update for the device to include fixes/new features/Android Security Patch soon!!!

That's good indeed honor is doing great

You could have continued on the previous thread itself.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-5x/how-to/probably-7-x-nougat-honor-5x-kiw-l24-t3474350/

The Honor brand is disappointing..

I'm quoting a user who contacted Honor UK asking about the EMUI 5.1 update
johnhux7 said:
I have been taking to Honor UK on hangouts.
Honor has no plans to release EMUI 5.1 at the MO.
They also said about the promice of updates :
"The "promise" was a Honor US thing. No European countries were part of that."
They also said :
"The Honor 8 is due to get an update soon. As to what's in that again no info."
These are exact copies of what they said.
Will post more when they say more
John
More quotes
"We are committed to updates, we just don't want to be caught out by publishing press releases with timescales in."
"The whole deal with XDA again was a US, neither Honor US or XDA consulted us before announcing the relationship."
John
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs
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I hope that this thread will be noticed by the Huawei/Honor community managers, and that they'll take full responsibility for all the false claims and misleading motto about supporting the Dev community (that includes releasing proper source code) + 2 years updates + XDA partnership.
We need an explanation.
A note to the forum moderators: Please do not remove this thread or censor it as it's our sole way to be noticed by Honor team.

It would be great to have some reply from @Honor UK (Verified), @HonorUSA or @Rox_Honor, but I don't think we will be that lucky...

morpheus302 said:
I'm quoting a user who contacted Honor UK asking about the EMUI 5.1 update
I hope that this thread will be noticed by the Huawei/Honor community managers, and that they'll take full responsibility for all the false claims and misleading motto about supporting the Dev community (that includes releasing proper source code) + 2 years updates + XDA partnership.
We need an explanation.
A note to the forum moderators: Please do not remove this thread or censor it as it's our sole way to be noticed by Honor team.
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ViCioPT said:
It would be great to have some reply from @Honor UK (Verified), @HonorUSA or @Rox_Honor, but I don't think we will be that lucky...
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I'm in the Honor H8 fut and there has been no talk of any updates only security patches are in the works and their released untested
Interesting read here >> http://m.androidcentral.com/heres-why-huawei-launching-p10-canada-not-us
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

morpheus302 said:
I'm quoting a user who contacted Honor UK asking about the EMUI 5.1 update
I hope that this thread will be noticed by the Huawei/Honor community managers, and that they'll take full responsibility for all the false claims and misleading motto about supporting the Dev community (that includes releasing proper source code) + 2 years updates + XDA partnership.
We need an explanation.
A note to the forum moderators: Please do not remove this thread or censor it as it's our sole way to be noticed by Honor team.
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This is really good.
It's exactly why I posted the messages that i did so people know exactly what's going on.
Us taking about our selfs doesn't come up with facts and that's what we need FACTS.
I will keep messaging them and will keep posting what is said.
We need to email them on mass and let them know just how we all feel about this
John
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs

What's their email you use for US? I'll send them a message. I'm about to switch back to my Moto g.

brownd7380 said:
What's their email you use for US? I'll send them a message. I'm about to switch back to my Moto g.
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Email them through your hicare app
Sent from my Honor 8 using XDA Labs

Yepp, disappointing. My last Honor personally, will move to another brand.

I'm a big fan of the Honor/Huawei camera, its the best out of all brands I've used including Apple, but they need to improve the updates and release the kernel source. For a moment I was close to selling the Honor 8 and getting a OnePlus for a better software experience, but I managed to go jump through hoops to manually update the phone.

I paid $280 for my Honor 8. I have been nothing but happy with it. If you don't like it, move on to something else honestly.

tekkitan said:
I paid $280 for my Honor 8. I have been nothing but happy with it. If you don't like it, move on to something else honestly.
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If you got your phone for a good price and you're happy with it, it's good for you. This thread exposes some facts and its aim is to get a "minimal" support from Huawei. So, maybe we'll move to something else 'honestly' in a near future. But many users can't afford it

Don't get it. People are calling some underpaid support guy on the customer level, mostly not really tech avid guys and quite uninformed and than believe what they're saying? Honestly?
There is only one department for outside communication. And you never talk to them. Relax and don't believe what so [email protected] guy is saying you, as they often get informations even later than the customers.

nivity said:
Yepp, disappointing. My last Honor personally, will move to another brand.
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I know what you mean. Though, I like my honor 8 phone but their support is by far the worst . I ask questions in their community forum site and hardly ever get any responds . And, I even wait a few days for an answer, still nothing . To me that's not acceptable . It would be different if I were asking my question here on a non Honor website but my questions are direct to them, unacceptable PERIOD

Dude905 said:
I know what you mean. Though, I like my honor 8 phone but their support is by far the worst . I ask questions in their community forum site and hardly ever get any responds . And, I even wait a few days for an answer, still nothing . To me that's not acceptable . It would be different if I were asking my question here on a non Honor website but my questions are direct to them, unacceptable PERIOD
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Lol it's the same even with supposed top brands like Samsung your calling a call center usually from another country that has only been trained to tell you how factory reset your phone from settings or from a button combo. If that doesn't solve it you are usually directed to send your phone back for warranty if it is under warranty or pay to fix your phone. So it's not just honor brand.

Yeah, I like the hardware especially at the price but software support is too poor for me to ever consider Honor again. Too many bugs and too few fixes.

It's the same on every single brand. My last was LG V10. A very pricy device. But no updates, not even security updates in time. I was expecting this for a 650€ device. On the H8 I got Nougat right after I booted it. And it was only 360€. Quite good. I'm disappointed by the closed source policy though. They promised more and that's why i didn't get the bq devices with some kind of Cyanogen on it. Still not sure if it was a wise decision.

faeArai said:
It's the same on every single brand. My last was LG V10. A very pricy device. But no updates, not even security updates in time. I was expecting this for a 650€ device. On the H8 I got Nougat right after I booted it. And it was only 360€. Quite good. I'm disappointed by the closed source policy though. They promised more and that's why i didn't get the bq devices with some kind of Cyanogen on it. Still not sure if it was a wise decision.
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I had to ask Honor UK to release the source code for the kernel more forcefully than i'd like to ask any company. I guess the only way for the community to get something out of Honor is to ask them many times.

colliflower1107 said:
I had to ask Honor UK to release the source code for the kernel more forcefully than i'd like to ask any company. I guess the only way for the community to get something out of Honor is to ask them many times.
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Yes your so right there.
We need to put pressure into them in order to get what we need.
They do response to messages in Thier Google+ groups

droidboy29 said:
Lol it's the same even with supposed top brands like Samsung your calling a call center usually from another country that has only been trained to tell you how factory reset your phone from settings or from a button combo. If that doesn't solve it you are usually directed to send your phone back for warranty if it is under warranty or pay to fix your phone. So it's not just honor brand.
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That maybe so . I wouldn't need another phone for a few years . When that day does come I will make sure beforehand which company provides a good phone and support, one thing is for sure it wouldn't be Huawei

I want Security updates once a month.
B360 has the patches from three and a half months ago.
That's...crap, honestly.
I'm not asking for shiny new features and the latest version of Android. Those would be great, but EMUI 5.1's not horribly out of date. Security fixes so my data's not stolen or device ****ed up are kind of important.

Honor 8 Long-Term Update: How's it holding up?

The Honor 8 has been out for about 10 months now and can now be purchased for $299 from the Honor website. So let's see how this phone holds up and if it's still worth the money.
Updates
The Honor 8 was early to the Nougat scene and has been updated regularly. The stock firmware is currently on Android 7.0 with EMUI 5.0. This has the Honor 8 easily keeping up with its competitors when it comes to updates.
Development
There are several regularly updated ROMs for the Honor 8 that will bring you up to Android 7.1.2. This phone can be rooted with SuperSU while running nougat, and the bootloader can be unlocked easily. So as far as development goes, the community has not let us down.
Specs
Seeing as how the Honor 8 is now a $300 phone, the specs hold up just fine and sometimes easily surpass other phones in this price range. The 4GB of RAM is what most flagship phones are launching with today. The 1080p screen is still plenty usable with no complaints from me. The camera has aged well, still being a lot of fun to use with all of the camera modes on this device. The Hisilicon Kirin 950 processor keeps this phone running plenty fast.
Durability
Who else cracked the back of their phone? Other than that, it's still in once piece. Parts are easy to find on ebay and they're very cheap. This is something that I usually look at when buying a new phone.
Accessories
There were never really a great selection of cases to choose from for the Honor 8. Seems there's still a very slim selection or low quality cases for this device.
Overall this phone holds up nicely. I'd say if it were $400 it would be too expensive. $299 seems like a really fair price for this phone to be going at right now. You can usually find it even lower than that on some other websites.

Just give us EMUI 5 KERNEL source code and we'll be happy customers

I'm afraid you'll find many that would argue that development has NOT been great with this device. Still a great phone though...

How much did Honor pay you for this post?

Look at all the threads saying "Huge battery drain after upgrading to EMUI 5." And you'll know where Huawei screw up.

@morpheus302 +1
everyone complain about bad battery life after upgrading to A7. Update policy I call it joke, there are a lot of users who still doesn't still received update to A7.

funkiefresh said:
How much did Honor pay you for this post?
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At the risk of piling on to an innocent person, I too thought the OP looked like a press release from Huawei. Interestingly enough, I made a similar post about how the Honor 8 needs a better reputation just a few hours earlier in this same forum. So maybe I'm getting what I asked for? :victory:

Imho the Honor 8 is not a bad phone hardware wise, It's just seems like they spend more on PR than actual development and updates. His statement about updates is laughable at best.

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@morpheus302 +1
everyone complain about bad battery life after upgrading to A7. Update policy I call it joke, there are a lot of users who still doesn't still received update to A7.
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You and others said for my posts that its spam
Well my friend
How often are you going to say the same in so many different threads
"Many users did not get update to noughat 7"
LoOoL
I said couse of some of you not to post again but this is just funny how often you said it

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Just give us EMUI 5 KERNEL source code and we'll be happy customers
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And then? Don't we need the Kirin Sources aswell for drivers and stuff?

No update to Android O for Honor 8 according to this: https://www.google.bg/amp/s/theleaker.com/android-o-8-0-update-smartphones-list/amp/
If this is true, i am pretty sure that Huawei are idiots!

See the link correctly https://theleaker.com/android-o-8-0-update-smartphones-list You will find out in comments that they have only included the devices which will get the update for sure, I also don't think that Honor 8 will get the update. But don;t know maybe they will seed an update.

dedovec said:
No update to Android O for Honor 8 according to this: https://www.google.bg/amp/s/theleaker.com/android-o-8-0-update-smartphones-list/amp/
If this is true, i am pretty sure that Huawei are idiots!
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That's someone's opinion but I doubt it's Huawei's official opinion. I'll wait till they announce their intentions.

That will blow if the honor 8 doesn't get Android O. I got another one on sale and have high hopes for this device

Okay, I broke the back glass. Paid $40 to get it repaired.
About the software updates, the US version is doing poorly. Security patches are not delivered monthly. We stayed at a very early patch for a very long time. About the O update, this device should get it. They should at least provide two major Android updates. One was Nougat and the next has to be O.

hackslash said:
Okay, I broke the back glass. Paid $40 to get it repaired.
About the software updates, the US version is doing poorly. Security patches are not delivered monthly. We stayed at a very early patch for a very long time. About the O update, this device should get it. They should at least provide two major Android updates. One was Nougat and the next has to be O.
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Only this community of phone nerds cares about monthly security patches. There isn't a company outside of Google that can realistically maintain that level of software support for their entire device portfolio. 2 major OS updates is the most we should realistically expect from Honor or any company. Anything else on top of that is just icing on the cake.

My girlfriend's Huwei P8 receives security patches every two months at least, one just received some days ago with July security patches. So i don't understand why we are not getting them...however, i agree with PuffDaddy_d. I would prefer to have Android O instead monthly security updates

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How I told before p8lite 2 days a go receive July security patches
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P8 have Nougat?
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I'm pretty sure you know it haven't it. Don't have to be ironic, just understand what i mean to say. Having Nougat doean't mean delay in security patch updatea, but if you're ok with this, perfect. However i told i don't care about them too much.

does anybody regret getting the honor 8? i'm debating between it and the pixel (for 2x the price).

indelible said:
does anybody regret getting the honor 8? i'm debating between it and the pixel (for 2x the price).
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OP5 is currently the sweet spot.