Outdoor visibility (max brightness) - HTC U12+ Real Life Review

Rate this thread to express how well you can see the HTC U12+'s display outdoors. In case you've been playing Minecraft for 18 months straight, you might not known how to get outside anymore. Well, find the door and walk through it. A higher rating indicates that it has very high maximum brightness and thus fantastic outdoor visibility in direct sunlight.
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in a first review (german) the max brightness seems to be critical outside. (at 2:07)

I must say... it's maybe on video. The pre-production piece I saw has beautiful brightness on sun. But yea, It can be piece by piece. I think oficiall U12+ will be good even in sunny weather. Let's wait!

I think it has same display as the u11+ 6" slcd 6 which is really dim

Hmm, he actually said that i looks pretty much like the U11+ and that it is a little bit to dark. This was also a problem with the HTC 10.
Probably HTC set a max brightness to save battery, i dont know. Could this be the case ?

i hope it has better brightness compared to my previous u11+

ycube said:
Hmm, he actually said that i looks pretty much like the U11+ and that it is a little bit to dark. This was also a problem with the HTC 10.
Probably HTC set a max brightness to save battery, i dont know. Could this be the case ?
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No problem here htc10 plus the htc11+ are ok.
Nice display's
Grtz

Anandtech estimated the display to be 600+ nits which is very bright and nothing like the U11+'s dim display.
But maybe they are wrong...
"The display will support HDR10 content on YouTube, and although no number was mentioned, the display is likely to be 600+ nits at full brightness."
Source: https://www.anandtech.com/show/12784/the-new-htc-u12-smartphone-hands-on

"The display's also noticeably brighter than the U11+, which was a pain point for some."
Android Central: From the Editor's Desk: HTC U12+ quick takes.
https://www.androidcentral.com/editors-desk-htc-u12-quick-takes

I don't know the U11 but my new U12+ is really great. I was very impressed today morning when I stepped out from home and got direct sunlight on the phone and it was still easy to read.
I wonder WTH that German was talking about... maybe he left on battery savings and didn't notice it? Happened to me the first morning, it greatly reduces maximum brightness.

szlevi said:
I don't know the U11 but my new U12+ is really great. I was very impressed today morning when I stepped out from home and got direct sunlight on the phone and it was still easy to read.
I wonder WTH that German was talking about... maybe he left on battery savings and didn't notice it? Happened to me the first morning, it greatly reduces maximum brightness.
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i just saw some videos on youtube, screen brightness is a little bit higher on u12+ compared to u11+
Look at this video after 16:08 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqJl3j15fP0&t=116s&ab_channel=GrantS

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i just saw some videos on youtube, screen brightness is a little bit higher on u12+ compared to u11+
Look at this video after 16:08 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqJl3j15fP0&t=116s&ab_channel=GrantS
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Since I have my U12+ since Wednesday evening I rather believe my own set of eyes than a video...

szlevi said:
Since I have my U12+ since Wednesday evening I rather believe my own set of eyes than a video...
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so what's your eyes saying?

idees said:
so what's your eyes saying?
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It's great, see my previous post.

szlevi said:
It's great, see my previous post.
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glad to hear this.
i think that all reviews mention that brightness is higher than u11+, not much, but it is.

In a german review it states that the display has ~ 500-550 cd/m² (for reference, the Galaxy s9 has 740 cd/m², the U11 plus has about 400 cd/m² and the U11 about 530 cd/m²).
https://youtu.be/pnNwfvIfzVU?t=4m47s

If you like the brightness of U11, U12+ is just slightly less bright in my comparison.
On my table side by side, U12+ indeed looks a slight bit dimmer.
On the street/direct sunlight it is doing a great job for my needs.

tbalden said:
If you like the brightness of U11, U12+ is just slightly less bright in my comparison.
On my table side by side, U12+ indeed looks a slight bit dimmer.
On the street/direct sunlight it is doing a great job for my needs.
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Tbalden pleaseeee, would you make a fix o port the bright feature from u12+ to u11+, that is the only thing we need to get a perfect phone...if is necesary, i could pay for it !

Hi,
GSMArena repors that max brightness is about 400 nits... which is pretty low. Has anyone here who has the U12+compare to another phone they have outside and give their honest verdict?

Yesterday I can play few min with the U12+ and I will not buy it, even when the price drop under 500€, because the display is useless. I was indoor and it was already dark compare to any phone I know.
I think from 2016 to 2018 the baddest screen has the ZTE Axon 7 but even this was better than the U12+.

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Clarity/resolution

The Huawei Mate 10 has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
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Of course it's crispy at 2K. Good for VR too. But FHD is enough for daily use.
It is really nice, colors, in full hd. and u can use smart resolution to manage resolution and save battery !
I went to the shop yesterday and helped them turn on vvivid display for Mate 10 after seeing how unattractive the default display is beside the Amoled Mate Pro.
Yesterday it was sunny day. I test display and it's not good. Bad reading on sunny day. Bright was on 100% but display was so dark. Mate 10Pro.
strekib said:
Yesterday it was sunny day. I test display and it's not good. Bad reading on sunny day. Bright was on 100% but display was so dark. Mate 10Pro.
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Auto brightness or manual ?
Auto bright. Manual I tried too but same effect. My old M9 was usable in sunny day without problem.
FHD for the win!
I actually like that the display is 1080P. I never use VR as it gives me motion sickness and I I'm unable to visually discern individual pixels so anything higher than 1080P is just wasting battery life and making the SoC/GPU work harder.
I've found it perfectly fine in direct sunlight. Compared to my LG G6, it's a far superior display. I'm not sure that it's as good as the U11 but it's miles ahead of the Moto Z.

Minimum brightness

You don't want to give your significant other yet another reason to yell at you while you're reading XDA in bed. Rate this thread to express what you think of the Huawei P20 Pro's display minimum dimness. A higher rating indicates that the display can get extremely dim, ideal for reading in very dark environments.
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4.5/10. Still quite bright relatively to the room, but that's due to its 15cm x8cm size. Nearly phablet sized.
Source: I work for a telecoms company and am using the P20 Pro right now as a marketing sample.
I really love the phones size and shape it's perfect. The battery life seems to be rather good as well. The large screen does help out a lot!
The Minimum brightness level is fine and does the job! I've been able to read very well at night in bed... In fact, I was watching a movie the other day on my device.
Most builtin minimum brightness are to bright in my experience as well this is
But using a third party app when needed fixes that ?
frewys said:
Most builtin minimum brightness are to bright in my experience as well this is
But using a third party app when needed fixes that ?
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Yeah, I've heard about the third party apps but never tried it. I've always found it to be good enough.
I do use an app to lower my minimum brightness on my Macbook Air because well that's just too damn bright lol. My phone however is fine.
Minimum brightness is fine for me. Others have said it's a bit too bright, but when you use the eye comfort mode, you'll have no issues.

Outdoor visibility (max brightness)

Rate this thread to express how well you can see the OnePlus 7 Pro's display outdoors. In case you've been playing Minecraft for 18 months straight, you might not known how to get outside anymore. Well, find the door and walk through it. A higher rating indicates that it has very high maximum brightness and thus fantastic outdoor visibility in direct sunlight.
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Big, beautiful colors, Max bringtness very high, hdr10+......
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Rate this thread to express how well you can see the OnePlus 7 Pro's display outdoors. In case you've been playing Minecraft for 18 months straight, you might not known how to get outside anymore. Well, find the door and walk through it. A higher rating indicates that it has very high maximum brightness and thus fantastic outdoor visibility in direct sunlight.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
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It does ok. Not nearly as well as the 5t, has a lot of glare issues so you will naturally be trying to hold it at specific angles. The 5t was more natural and you could just walk and read and natural motion wouldn't reflect as much. I'm trying to get used to it. Screen is massive and I really like the real estate it has.
Mines looks pretty good. If I compare with my favorite (from my prev devs - Samsung note 4) - OP7 pro doing very well on direct sunlight (no concerns at all, pretty much like note)
I frequently use Google maps in full Florida sun with this thing mounted on the handlebars of my motorcycle. Never have trouble seeing it, even with sunglasses on.
Very readable even in direct sun light
Pretty good but a notch below my S8 +.
The best since my s6 edge+ while rooted using high brightness. The high brightness mods makes it the best I've ever used. Just put an iPhone X Max and Xr to shame today.
mookiexl said:
The best since my s6 edge+ while rooted using high brightness. The high brightness mods makes it the best I've ever used. Just put an iPhone X Max and Xr to shame today.
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Where did you find this mod? Is an automatic mod that go on when you are under the sun or you have to active it every time manually? Thanks
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Is this one the mod that you use? Is possible to use it with root but with the stock kernel?
vuoshino said:
Where did you find this mod? Is an automatic mod that go on when you are under the sun or you have to active it every time manually? Thanks
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Is this one the mod that you use? Is possible to use it with root but with the stock kernel?
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I use the Renovate Ice magisk mod and it creates a qs tile that you can toggle off and on like the rest of the qs tiles
Very good for me in the sun...
Works Good
The Device performs very well and is not a problem about outdoor visibility.
I came from an SGS8 so my experience had been really good. Top-notch, really. The 1+7 Pro is worse. It isn't bad though, it's still great. Also, there seems to be an issue with the automatic brightness. Where the S8 would, due to the conventional light sensor, turn the brightness up and down seemingly even before any change happened, the 1+ struggles a bit. It takes time. I've heard people describe how it doesn't work at all and they have to adjust it manually, so far, I only had delay issues.
Rob_1608 said:
I came from an SGS8 so my experience had been really good. Top-notch, really. The 1+7 Pro is worse. It isn't bad though, it's still great. Also, there seems to be an issue with the automatic brightness. Where the S8 would, due to the conventional light sensor, turn the brightness up and down seemingly even before any change happened, the 1+ struggles a bit. It takes time. I've heard people describe how it doesn't work at all and they have to adjust it manually, so far, I only had delay issues.
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That's the main downside for these full screen display devices: the ambient light sensor has a cutout under the OLED layer but the screen can interfere with what the sensor sees. I can sometimes be in a dark room and brightness adjusts to the appropriate level but it can read the light being emitted around the cutout as an increase in light and boost the brightness up pretty high.
I find that after some time the autobrightness issues kind of die down, same with the proximity sensor during calls since that too is under the display
At points i couldn't really make out the screen in sunlight with max brightness. Might be because of the memory film protector on the front. ElementalX kernel is my saviour for the high brightness mode at the moment
Very bright
Very very good and with high brightness mode it's even better. Never seen such a nice display

Clarity/resolution

The LG V60 ThinQ has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
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Very clear. The resolution is lower than my V30, I think, but it's not noticeable to me.
I honestly don't notice the lower resolution and because of that always had my previous phones set to 1080p to save battery.
Auto brightness has been a problem though, in low light the screen throttles back to 1% far too aggressively and 1% is too dim even in a pitch black room.
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The larger screen size and lower resolution combine for a noticeably lower DPI count, but I happen to think that higher (than 1080p) resolutions on (relatively) smaller phone displays are mostly a waste of battery life.
YMMV, but in my experience, there comes a point where the human eye can only resolve so much and the bump in the resolution of small screen displays just becomes overkill. I'll take battery life over resolution and even refresh rate any day, though I imagine higher resolution displays with higher refresh rates will only become more efficient over time, and I'll likely change my tune eventually.
I went from the V30+ to the V60 at the beginning of this month, and I feel like the new phone is a substantial upgrade over the older one in just about all categories that matter. And that's even considering that the former was rooted and the latter can't be!
The display is crisp enough, though clearly not cutting edge. Colors look at least as good as those of the V30. Viewing angles are fantastic without any noticeable (to me) color shift. It's probably the best we could have expected knowing that the display is relatively modest compared to this phone's 20202 (and some 2019) peers. And if you're fine with that, this shouldn't stop you from considering the phone. If, however, you DO want higher resolutions and higher refresh rates, you already know this phone's not for you and that you've got multiple options.
Mejilan said:
Viewing angles are fantastic without any noticeable (to me) color shift.
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I'm seeing very drastic color shift when viewing at about 45°, more noticeable on white screens. It's a greenish yellowish shift.
Otherwise I agree with the rest of your post. 1080p is plenty resolution and I'm fine with 60Hz refresh.
Mr_Mooncatt said:
I'm seeing very drastic color shift when viewing at about 45°, more noticeable on white screens. It's a greenish yellowish shift.
Otherwise I agree with the rest of your post. 1080p is plenty resolution and I'm fine with 60Hz refresh.
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Are there display variances across production runs, or something? Because I can't seem to reproduce this fault.
I'm not TERRIBLY sensitive to such things, but from what you say, it sounds like it should be blatantly obvious to the eyes.
And I don't suffer from any kind of color blindness that could possibly impact me.
Mejilan said:
Are there display variances across production runs, or something? Because I can't seem to reproduce this fault.
I'm not TERRIBLY sensitive to such things, but from what you say, it sounds like it should be blatantly obvious to the eyes.
And I don't suffer from any kind of color blindness that could possibly impact me.
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I haven't seen anyone else complain of this, so not site if it's an issue with mine specifically or what. Here's a short video I made that hopefully demonstrates the color shift.
https://youtu.be/naGHasaIjp0
Mr_Mooncatt said:
I haven't seen anyone else complain of this, so not site if it's an issue with mine specifically or what. Here's a short video I made that hopefully demonstrates the color shift.
https://youtu.be/naGHasaIjp0
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Huh. How did you get a plain white background to show up like that? (I suppose I can Google one up).
I'd like to test my phone out and see if I can get similar results.
It's a little hard to see in a YT video, but I definitely noticed SOME shift on your screen that I don't think I've ever seen on mine.
I imagine the effect is even more noticeable in real life, with the phone right in front of you.
Mejilan said:
Huh. How did you get a plain white background to show up like that? (I suppose I can Google one up).
I'd like to test my phone out and see if I can get similar results.
It's a little hard to see in a YT video, but I definitely noticed SOME shift on your screen that I don't think I've ever seen on mine.
I imagine the effect is even more noticeable in real life, with the phone right in front of you.
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I use this app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iudesk.android.photo.editor
It's a photo editing app, but you can start a new image from scratch and select a background color. I set it to pure white, then zoomed in on it to fill the screen. It's definitely easier to see in person. I tried using by wife's Note 9 for the video, but I couldn't select a better refresh rate on it to prevent the banding.
Mr_Mooncatt said:
I use this app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.iudesk.android.photo.editor
It's a photo editing app, but you can start a new image from scratch and select a background color. I set it to pure white, then zoomed in on it to fill the screen. It's definitely easier to see in person. I tried using by wife's Note 9 for the video, but I couldn't select a better refresh rate on it to prevent the banding.
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I tried it out, and while I did notice a dimming or darkening of the white background at extreme tilts, I figure that's normal.
Doesn't quite look like what your YT video shows, but I'm not sure if that's down to the difference between watching a YT video of something and watching it yourself directly.
I've had the V30 and now this and I'm as happy with the screen on this one as I was with the V30. I couldn't care about the refresh rate. It's not like I'm watching a 60" screen. Overall it's a very good screen.
Mr_Mooncatt said:
I'm seeing very drastic color shift when viewing at about 45°, more noticeable on white screens. It's a greenish yellowish shift.
Otherwise I agree with the rest of your post. 1080p is plenty resolution and I'm fine with 60Hz refresh.
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I pissed that it's 1080P, however, people who say a 90+ refresh rate is noticeable is just experiencing placebo.
The human eye will never notice that.
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BROKEN1981 said:
I pissed that it's 1080P, however, people who say a 90+ refresh rate is noticeable is just experiencing placebo.
The human eye will never notice that.
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I've had higher resolution screens, and I can tell no difference between them and 1080p. Even 720p is hard to notice a difference.
When it comes to refresh rates, most people see a noticeable difference between 60Hz and 90Hz. My last phone was selectable between those two and 120Hz, and I couldn't tell a difference between 90Hz and 120Hz.
I can see the difference in resolution between the V30 and V60, it's just that 1080p on a phone doesn't bother me.
It falls in my "good enough" range. These aren't 55+ inch television displays, after all.
I also can definitely see the difference between a 60 Hz refresh rate vs a 90 Hz or 120 Hz refresh display.
my problem is with notifications in the top pull down... its virtually useless in landscape mode...

Outdoor visibility (max brightness)

Rate this thread to express how well you can see the Sony Xperia 5 II's display outdoors. In case you've been playing Minecraft for 18 months straight, you might not known how to get outside anymore. Well, find the door and walk through it. A higher rating indicates that it has very high maximum brightness and thus fantastic outdoor visibility in direct sunlight.
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sadly the xperia 5ii doesnt even come close to my p30 pro in brightness outside,
Very disapointent but ok it has other strengths
No issues at all with mine. It may not be ultra bright but I can still see the screen more than ok.
I can say 5 II is brighter than Xperia 5.
I was concerned because a few reviews mentioned a lack of brightness. I'm sure it's not as bright as some but where I live is very bright and it works. I have a bigger problem my my face reflecting on the screen if the sun is right.
Just got my Xperia 5 II few days ago. Put it side by side with Pixel 4 and noticed straight away that the Pixel screen is better - brighter, no blue tint when looking at it from the angle, better colours. Outdoor (bright sun) visibility is clearly worse than on dirt cheap Pixel 4 which is very disappointing. Considering that in Pro mode you have only a half of the screen as a viewfinder, taking pictures at bright sunny day conditions become a pain in the ass a bit.
I had disabled the auto-brightness and set the brightness to the highest level. Then I read that the highest level set that way was not as high as the highest level with adaptive brightness. So, I turned on adaptive brightness and it does seem to work, totally subjective, a bit better. I'm still not happy with the screen in sunlight.
patrickt said:
I had disabled the auto-brightness and set the brightness to the highest level. Then I read that the highest level set that way was not as high as the highest level with adaptive brightness. So, I turned on adaptive brightness and it does seem to work, totally subjective, a bit better. I'm still not happy with the screen in sunlight.
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Exactly, this phone unfortunately doesn't worth its price tag
robi101012981 said:
Exactly, this phone unfortunately doesn't worth its price tag
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I like the phone. It was worth it for me. I understand it wasn't for you.
patrickt said:
I like the phone. It was worth it for me. I understand it wasn't for you.
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I don't understand why you like it, cause the battery life it's mediocre...I don't get more than 6h sot on WiFi,on mobile data I can barely get the 4h sot mark, camera quality it's bad,so why do you like it?
robi101012981 said:
I don't understand why you like it, cause the battery life it's mediocre...I don't get more than 6h sot on WiFi,on mobile data I can barely get the 4h sot mark, camera quality it's bad,so why do you like it?
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A. I prefer photography to computational photography
B. I don't play games, don't do Facebook, and don't need 6 hr. screen on each day
C. I charge by phone each night before bed, up to 80%, and the next evening it's at 50% at worst.
D. I like the Photo Pro interface
E. I like the photographs I get
F. I was spending my money. You can spend yours on Samsung or Huawei if you want.
patrickt said:
A. I prefer photography to computational photography
B. I don't play games, don't do Facebook, and don't need 6 hr. screen on each day
C. I charge by phone each night before bed, up to 80%, and the next evening it's at 50% at worst.
D. I like the Photo Pro interface
E. I like the photographs I get
F. I was spending my money. You can spend yours on Samsung or Huawei if you want.
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I would easily pick P40 Pro/Mate 40 pro if they would have GMS, but I can't live without Google, so my only alternative to a good camera was Sony, at least this was my hope...Samsung I don't like it, I honestly hate this brand because they're selling overpriced phones without a reason, and they make market differences(Exynos in some countries, snapdragon in another country).
About charging, yes, I also have Battery care set on auto and I charge my phone overnight, but yeah, I spent some time on social media so my hope was that battery should be better, but this was false, unfortunately
That's why Sony sales are so low because phones are not so good as they say, or maybe I was a little bit unlucky and got a faulty unit(unlucky that I only have 1 year of warranty)
I think sales are low because people prefer a point-and-shoot camera that takes great photos for them. That is Huawei and Samsung. My sister said she preferred photos from my Huawei p40 pro. I said I preferred taking photos with my Xperia 5 II.
I have my fun taking photos.
patrickt said:
I think sales are low because people prefer a point-and-shoot camera that takes great photos for them. That is Huawei and Samsung. My sister said she preferred photos from my Huawei p40 pro. I said I preferred taking photos with my Xperia 5 II.
I have my fun taking photos.
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I would also have fun if the phone would focus properly, but unfortunately it can't do this
robi101012981 said:
I would also have fun if the phone would focus properly, but unfortunately it can't do this
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I think we've settled on my enjoying my Xperia 5 II and you don't like yours. I'm happy. You're not. That's life.

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