Boost Mobile Moto E4 on Sprint - Moto E4 Questions & Answers

I've done a bit of digging and I can't seem to find a clear answer here. Does the boost variant need to be on boost service for a year for it to be unlocked? I thought flashing a custom rom bypassed the SIM locking but I do not get any sprint service with AICP, nor will sprint allow me to add the device to my account (it obviously shows up as locked to them). Is there a step I'm missing or am I SOL? Thanks!

Photonik said:
I've done a bit of digging and I can't seem to find a clear answer here. Does the boost variant need to be on boost service for a year for it to be unlocked? I thought flashing a custom rom bypassed the SIM locking but I do not get any sprint service with AICP, nor will sprint allow me to add the device to my account (it obviously shows up as locked to them). Is there a step I'm missing or am I SOL? Thanks!
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I think that only works to use it on a GSM network. Sprint owns boost, and it may be the CDMA radio that's locked. So I don't think that's going to work.

Unfortunately I think you're right. Thanks for the input, hopefully I can still return the phone and get a sprint branded version.

Yes, Sprint, Boost Mobile, Virgin Mobile and most other Sprint-based Prepaid carriers know the IMEIs registered to the devices. Sprint knows your device is supposed to be used on Boost Mobile and will only allow it to register with Boost service. Even if it's unlocked, you can only use it on Boost unless you use a carrier that's not owned by Sprint, like Verizon or US Cellular or some GSM carrier like AT&T or T-Mobile.

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Use sprint LG G2 on verizon?

I saw a similar thread to this, but it wasnt my same situation. I've been shopping for a LG G2 to work on verizon, found a dude on craigslist with what he says is an unlocked one, Now he says its a sprint one. But unlocked for any carrier....is this true? Like is this even possible? If so, is it going to work on verizon...100%? Like data 4g, 3g etc?
Thanks all!
I'm not an expert but I believe they are both CDMA. So it should work
askmeonemore said:
I'm not an expert but I believe they are both CDMA. So it should work
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That was my initial thought as well, but for 4g it should work no problem but for 3g/2g doesnt the ESN have to be registered on the network?
andriodfanatic said:
That was my initial thought as well, but for 4g it should work no problem but for 3g/2g doesnt the ESN have to be registered on the network?
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Yes. Verizon years ago had a bring your own device policy that allowed you to register sprint devices on Verizon, but that was a long time ago.
staticx57 said:
Yes. Verizon years ago had a bring your own device policy that allowed you to register sprint devices on Verizon, but that was a long time ago.
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So i am correct, that it will not work?
Don't bother.
CDMA carriers like Verizon and Sprint have a database of ESN's (serial numbers) that are approved for their network unlike GSM carriers like T-Mobile and AT&T where you can just pop in their respective SIM cards and use compatible unlocked GSM devices.
You can't just walk into a VZW store with a Sprint phone, go to the counter and tell the rep that you want to activate service with a (non-Verizon branded phone) Sprint phone. First of all, the ESN/MEID is not in their database, doesn't have any VZW prl (preferred roaming list) loaded, and in the case of LTE, isn't even compatible (VZW runs LTE on 700mhz, Sprint is on 800/1900/2500).
However, Sprint and VZW technically run their CDMA service (1xrtt, 3G EVDO) on compatible frequencies 800/850/1900, hence the reason their customers can roam off each other and vice versa. So technically it can work if VZW will accept the Sprint device ESN into their database and do all the backend OTA programming etc, but that's not going to happen. There's always the murky underworld of cloning, but i'll stop right here...
As for the person on Craigslist trying to urinate on you and convince you that it is raining, forget about him/her. It's likely that it might be unlocked, but that's only the GSM portion, for GSM carriers and not Verizon.
If you need a phone to use on Verizon, why not just get a Verizon phone and save yourself the hassle?

Possible to use a Sprint HTC 10 on Verizon with unlimited data & hotspot?

Hi all,
I didn't see anything from reading through the forum on using a Sprint HTC 10 on Verizon. It sounds like there's been success with Tmobile and AT&T.
So far, this is what I've found:
-Sprint HTC 10 should have all the LTE bands necessary for Verizon
-Sprint HTC 10 needs to be sim unlocked before anything can be done
-S-Off + root are required for any potential workaround for Verizon, as the appropriate radio needs to be flashed
How far off base am I? I am intrigued because I am on Verizon and I'd like to take advantage of the sprint HTC 10 sale that's supposedly going on right now. Thanks in advance!
I have the same question. I'm trying to jump on that but for T-Mobile. I'm just worried I won't be able to get the device unlocked.
Historically, Verizon and Sprint don't activate each others' phones. They're the two big CDMA carriers that don't use SIM cards, but activate by ESN directly. But there are always those who get lucky.
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I've been working on that recently. I actually want to be able to switch between Sprint and Verizon.
Sprint has to activate both the phone and the SIM. Verizon has moved to just using SIM cards. I've been able to move a Verizon SIM between devices and have everything work, even on devices that aren't official Verizon devices and even some that only support part of the bands Verizon uses and work on the ones they support.
With the HTC 10, I've been able to get S-OFF and unlock the phone myself since Sprint wouldn't do it. When I put in my Verizon SIM, it recognizes it but for whatever reason is unable to connect to anything but 1X Roaming (probably on Sprint but it won't say). Poking around in CDMAtool hasn't helped much.
I'll update this if I ever figure it out.
Any updates? I'm curious myself. I have the Sprint HTC 10 and am working on finding an MVNO that I like, some of the Verizon ones are tempting.
pjbtk said:
I have the same question. I'm trying to jump on that but for T-Mobile. I'm just worried I won't be able to get the device unlocked.
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I got s-off and then unlocked via one of the methods here in xda. Using on t-mobile perfectly. No issues.
destrorox said:
I got s-off and then unlocked via one of the methods here in xda. Using on t-mobile perfectly. No issues.
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By perfectly do you mean volte and Wi-Fi calling are working for you? If so please point to the guide you used. I can't find where anyone using a sprint 10 has gotten those things on T-Mobile.
I would be surprised if a sprint 10 used on Verizon would have that work too but haven't seen any mention of it.
bootlooper said:
By perfectly do you mean volte and Wi-Fi calling are working for you? If so please point to the guide you used. I can't find where anyone using a sprint 10 has gotten those things on T-Mobile.
I would be surprised if a sprint 10 used on Verizon would have that work too but haven't seen any mention of it.
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I unlocked the bootloader and installed ViperRom, picking the US Unlocked version as my device. I have working VoLTE, but not wifi calling. (Note, this is on Mint Sim, which uses the T-Mobile network)
yeah it would be great if someone could give a for sure answer to this. I've found a lot of post giving conflicting information all over xda and r/htc10 about this. I would love to buy a used sprint htc 10 (seems to be the cheapest version by far) and use it on a verizon mvno, but until I know for sure it works I' not going to do it.

[HELP] How to get VoLTE to work on Cricket with BYOD S8?

Anyone know how to get VoLTE to work on cricket, with a non-branded cricket phone? Cricket is telling me it has to be a Cricket-branded phone. Does that mean specific IMEIs or could I just install Cricket S8 software?
Also, does anyone know if VoLTE will work on Straight Talk using Verizon's network? Thanks for any help.
rlsyoung said:
Anyone know how to get VoLTE to work on cricket, with a non-branded cricket phone? Cricket is telling me it has to be a Cricket-branded phone. Does that mean specific IMEIs or could I just install Cricket S8 software?
Also, does anyone know if VoLTE will work on Straight Talk using Verizon's network? Thanks for any help.
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I would think flashing the cricket firmware and csc would be enough as they are not lying the prscess to convert a non cricket BYOD is rough I Tried on a verizon LG G5 And still never got it working properly
TheMadScientist said:
I would think flashing the cricket firmware and csc would be enough as they are not lying the prscess to convert a non cricket BYOD is rough I Tried on a verizon LG G5 And still never got it working properly
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I will try this. Do you happen to know if Cricket is 950u or 950u1? I can only find AIO (cricket, i believe) for 950u1. Would I need to change the CSC if I use official cricket firmware?
rlsyoung said:
I will try this. Do you happen to know if Cricket is 950u or 950u1? I can only find AIO (cricket, i believe) for 950u1. Would I need to change the CSC if I use official cricket firmware?
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I believe so on the csc but there is 950u1 and u2 you have to look in your settings to see which you are on the u1 or 2 is the bootloader version f it is u2 U cannot flash any U1 firmware
Verizon prepaid was great with VoLTE BYOD. All 3 of my family's phones worked (HTC U11 unlocked, iPhone 6, Samsung J7 Verizon). It was beautiful sound quality. I had to ditch Verizon, because, despite having a strong signal, 4G LTE data performance was very unpredictable. Sometimes my download speed was essentially zero at my home, even though I had 5 bars. One morning during a power outage, I had a good strong signal, but I couldn't bring up a single website using the HTC U11. The Verizon branded Samsung J7 wasn't much better. I called Verizon prepaid support a couple days later, and they had me do the usual ridiculous insulting troubleshooting where they try to blame the user/device. Also, I did hate that there was no visual voicemail app for Verizon on prepaid plans (makes no sense). That being said, I went back to Cricket in order to get normal LTE data performance, even though I get one bar of signal at my home. Now, back on Cricket, the sound quality has returned back to horrible when I call home from work, but data is pretty good. Also, I cannot stand that my unlocked HTC U11 cannot use the hotspot functionality on Cricket without my paying extra. The HTC One A9 my family member uses can serve a hotspot, probably because it's S-OFF and rooted. Verizon prepaid allowed anybody to serve out a hotspot for free. Today I tried an experiment. I called home using Google Duo. My phone and my family member's phone have Duo installed. The sound quality was incredible and sounded just like HD Voice. Essentially, it was a workaround to get VoLTE. The phone at home was on WiFi, and I was using 4G LTE. So, my poor-man's HD Voice will end up carving out bytes from my data allowance. I don't know when and if Cricket will open up all VoLTE capable phones like Verizon did. It bugs me that Verizon had this weird data issue, because Cricket seems to be game playing even more than T-Mobile and Verizon do. I was tempted to try T-MOB again, but they have this ridiculous policy with their prepaid family plan where you have to make a deposit that they keep for a year. Who does that?

Need help sim unlock tracfone galaxy S5 SM-S902L

is there anyway to sim unlock (carrier unlock this phone? Please
AXng said:
is there anyway to sim unlock (carrier unlock this phone? Please
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im looking for the same thing.
nope they wont let you unlock from their service...tracfone told me it wouldn't work on there new and improved network so they offered me a $40 rebate off any new tracfone over $80....I cussed and argued for two weeks with no avail...I had another old tracfone and was also running on that old Verizon cmda network, well they activated it..I put the sim card in the galaxy and it works fine....they just wanted me to buy a new phone...well i get on the phone with them to tell them that I got my 902l working on their "new network" ...they said that I was a liar and that the imei for my phone was never even branded with verizon/tracfone ever....I said cool and let them go with what the computers show...I figured out that since i'm flash happy with ASOP pie ROM's i knock out my radios or whatever all the time...so when my phone doesn't work my imei# is also blank slated meaning no carrier or csc identifiers...which means that you have a good chance of getting Boost mobile or metroPCS to work...I'm from Knoxville, TN and I called every carrier trying to get service when tracfone went loopy....Boost will activate it for sure because they run the old cmda...I'm good with tracfone I've always used there service...but I will say that I do have a Tmobile 900T motherboard i got for $10 off ebay on the way because I'm needing bootloader upgrade so I can use my fingerprint sensor on these newer ROMS...And the GSM radios so i can just go with whoever carrier I feel....

activate ATT v35 on sprint or any cdma mvno

tried to run the imei number on the sprint and verizon site, says cannot be activated. Went to sprint and called verizon, says att branded phone cannot be activated. This is unlocked, works on tmo. tried searching for a solution in the forum but no dice.
nerd2k said:
tried to run the imei number on the sprint and verizon site, says cannot be activated. Went to sprint and called verizon, says att branded phone cannot be activated. This is unlocked, works on tmo. tried searching for a solution in the forum but no dice.
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Doesn't matter if it's "unlocked", other carriers have their rules for what they allow on their networks. Most AT&T phones don't have CDMA, and Sprint, Verizon (for now) still uses CDMA.
On non-branded phones you won't get VoLTE from most carriers (T-Mobile is the exception) and without VoLTE you would need to temporarily drop down to CDMA for voice calls on Sprint and Verizon.
Even on phones that have CDMA, like the LG V30 US998, Verizon still wants you to buy their branded phones -- because end of this year when CDMA goes away, those phone still won't have VoLTE. So in a few months those phones won't be able to make phone calls. I have two relatives with LG V30/V30+ US998 on Verizon. Don't ask how, there are ways. But even of 2020 they will need new phones when Verizon kills CDMA and they can't get VoLTE on non-Verizon phones.
nerd2k said:
tried to run the imei number on the sprint and verizon site, says cannot be activated. Went to sprint and called verizon, says att branded phone cannot be activated. This is unlocked, works on tmo. tried searching for a solution in the forum but no dice.
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As an owner of an AT&T v35 I can tell you it will work nicely on the Verizon network including VoLTE and VoWIFI. You do have to jump through a few hurdles. You will need a SIM activated on the Verizon network. That may mean buying a new phone from Verizon. You also need to SIM unlock the v35 by buying a code from a site like codes2unlock.com. You may also need to cross flash to the NA rom. These things should be done in that order, and there is no going back to an AT&T rom afterwards.
ChazzMatt said:
Even on phones that have CDMA, like the LG V30 US998, Verizon still wants you to buy their branded phones -- because end of this year when CDMA goes away, those phone still won't have VoLTE. So in a few months those phones won't be able to make phone calls. I have two relatives with LG V30/V30+ US998 on Verizon. Don't ask how, there are ways. But even of 2020 they will need new phones when Verizon kills CDMA and they can't get VoLTE on non-Verizon phones.
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Chazz, can you clarify this? I have a US998 v30s running on Verizon with VoLTE. It was my understanding that it will not be affected by shutdown of cdma by Verizon. I like the phone and want to continue using it.
cmrntnnr said:
As an owner of an AT&T v35 I can tell you it will work nicely on the Verizon network including VoLTE and VoWIFI. You do have to jump through a few hurdles. You will need a SIM activated on the Verizon network. That may mean buying a new phone from Verizon.
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My brother-in-law found Verizon store rep willing to break the rules for he and my sister's USS98 V30+ (converted from Sprint LS998). They switched from AT&T to Verizon.
This guy said "Verizon wants you to buy their phones, of course. They'll tell you this phone (US998) won't work, but it will." He activated two SIM cards and put them in their US998.
He said "If you have any issues, ONLY see me here at this store. Don't talk to any other reps about this." Wink, wink, nudge, nudge. (Monty Python reference.)
My brother-in-law and sister don't have V35 on Verizon, but you probably have VoLTE because you enabled VoLTE on another phone (Droid Turbo)? I don't know if they have Verizon VoLTE on US998 V30+, but I assumed they didn't...
cmrntnnr said:
Chazz, can you clarify this? I have a US998 v30s running on Verizon with VoLTE. It was my understanding that it will not be affected by shutdown of cdma by Verizon. I like the phone and want to continue using it.
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If you have Verizon VoLTE now, then nothing will change.
I assumed my brother-in-law and sister don't have VoLTE and are temporarily dropping to CDMA for phone calls. But I have no way of easily checking. Neither would know what "VoLTE" is nor "CDMA".
I merely told them their US998 phones were carrier unlocked and would work on Verizon -- if they got already-activated SIM cards. My brother-in-law used his considerable sales skills and found a helpful rep.
thanks a ton @chazz for the clarification. i have already move to AMZ 9.0 which looked to be pure android. was not able to get NAO due to error(sha256 auth error). AMZ was the only one that worked from multiple different firmwares(lgfirmware /sammobile) from us region and it works awesome.
For the verizon sim card, can i buy flip phone or a throw away verizon smart phone with the activated sim card and use it with the v35. similarly can you use the approach for sprint?
Again your response is much appreciated.
You should consider features you want to have on your account when buying the phone from Verizon. Some can be toggled through the the settings menu on the v35 like Advanced Calling for VoLTE, but others can't like visual voice mail. Ask to have them activated when you buy the phone. Keep that Verizon phone, you may have to get help in the future from Verizon and it will come in handy! They won't be impressed with the v35.
I don't have proof of it and am not in a position to test, but I suspect you cannot activate a Sprint sim on a Sprint phone and then move to the v35. My understanding from reading about the open market ULM and AT&T branded v35 is that Sprint maintains an IMEI whitelist. Sprint only allows Sprint branded phones on their network. This is why the ULM model is preferred for Google FI.
Please post what you learn so others can benefit.
nerd2k said:
thanks a ton @chazz for the clarification. i have already move to AMZ 9.0 which looked to be pure android. was not able to get NAO due to error(sha256 auth error). AMZ was the only one that worked from multiple different firmwares(lgfirmware /sammobile) from us region and it works awesome.
For the verizon sim card, can i buy flip phone or a throw away verizon smart phone with the activated sim card and use it with the v35. similarly can you use the approach for sprint?
Again your response is much appreciated.
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