OTA System Update notice...for April? - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S7 Questions & Answers

I got the popup for a System Update pending. I'm on BRA1 now.
Any reason not to take it?
Where can see the Patch Notes (Never have been to find them easily. The Samsung 'official' would be fine, but is there some fan site that digs digger for techies who want to get past marketing speak and bullet points?
Thanks

Nope don't take it...best thing to do is to wait until you find out whether or not you can Odin back to old firmware...if you one of those who like to mod I would seriously wait until you find out more about it...nothing good ever comes from those who jump the gun...he'll were lucky enough to have root and modifications despite our locked bootloader. (Knocking on wood)

matt1285 said:
Nope don't take it...best thing to do is to wait until you find out whether or not you can Odin back to old firmware...if you one of those who like to mod I would seriously wait until you find out more about it...nothing good ever comes from those who jump the gun...he'll were lucky enough to have root and modifications despite our locked bootloader. (Knocking on wood)
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I just tried to root with it, but got stuck in a bootloop. I'm not sure if it's the update, but I'm not new to rooting and know my way around. Fairly certain I didn't screw anything up in the process.

da_uno said:
I just tried to root with it, but got stuck in a bootloop. I'm not sure if it's the update, but I'm not new to rooting and know my way around. Fairly certain I didn't screw anything up in the process.
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Did you get it up and running yet? or fixed?

guitarzombie said:
Did you get it up and running yet? or fixed?
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Yes, after wiping my phone and doing a fresh install of the latest it rooted

Can you give me the full build number?

G930A Rom
Can anyone please upload the latest (2018) firmware for g930a or g930u to Google drive or mega.nz? Iam pleading lol. I can't download from android host, I have already lost about 2 GB bandwidth as it keeps on stopping and I am on a 4GB internet cap.

CVertigo1 said:
Can you give me the full build number?
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Just in case you didn't already get it from somewhere else, bull build number is:
NRD90M.G930VVRU4BRC2

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Intersting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYbWZNtCjA
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBYbWZNtCjA
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I saw this posted earlier. I think the big question is does he release it and thus burn an exploit or does he wait for 4.3 in hopes that it is still there and thus provides a root option for 4.3 as well. I'm not sure which is my preference. The only thing I personally miss by not being rooted is the tethering, which I only use in emergency situations anyway, so its not crucial for me. However, it is nice to have freedom from the carrier release cycle if we get a way to flash roms without an unlocked bootloader.
bugsy said:
I saw this posted earlier. I think the big question is does he release it and thus burn an exploit or does he wait for 4.3 in hopes that it is still there and thus provides a root option for 4.3 as well. I'm not sure which is my preference. The only thing I personally miss by not being rooted is the tethering, which I only use in emergency situations anyway, so its not crucial for me. However, it is nice to have freedom from the carrier release cycle if we get a way to flash roms without an unlocked bootloader.
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you got any idea what was going on with the order in which he clicked on things in the about phone menu? was that part of the exploit or what? I couldn't tell if it was doing something or he was just showing you it was the OTA.
jayboyyyy said:
you got any idea what was going on with the order in which he clicked on things in the about phone menu? was that part of the exploit or what? I couldn't tell if it was doing something or he was just showing you it was the OTA.
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Just proving the version.
I would rather that he wait and see if the exploit is still available in 4.3. There's a way to go back to the first build from this update, so if you really need root that badly, you can always just do that. Once SafeStrap is ready, we'll probably see a zip of the update that can be flashed, so I find little reason for him to burn this flaw right now.
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I would rather that he wait and see if the exploit is still available in 4.3. There's a way to go back to the first build from this update, so if you really need root that badly, you can always just do that. Once SafeStrap is ready, we'll probably see a zip of the update that can be flashed, so I find little reason for him to burn this flaw right now.
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how would one go back to the first build after the update is applied?
mj0528 said:
how would one go back to the first build after the update is applied?
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You can't. Jcase stated in another thread that the exploit he used wasn't practical for most users so he probably won't release it. Was more a proof of concept
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mj0528 said:
how would one go back to the first build after the update is applied?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46007395
Not sure if anybody ever tried that on a locked device, but I think it should work.

ASUS cancelled 2.19.40.18 OTA

guys
http://www.asus.com/zentalk/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=14836&pid=107979
asus said they cancelled this update due to unstable update...
1st i dont know what is unstable in this version[same as previous and new bug of call screen animation
2nd lol which update came without new bugs?
3rd they removed after they heard about unlocking bootloader..something fishy right :laugh:
they will probably patch the unlock method with the next update, gonna unlock the bootloader before updating to next update.
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luisoman2000 said:
they will probably patch the unlock method with the next update, gonna unlock the bootloader before updating to next update.
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ya same here..but what they will do to unlocked phones/??
ansebovi said:
ya same here..but what they will do to unlocked phones/??
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Maybe there just will be a check and it will abort if the BL is unlocked
But it should be easy to adapt these OTA updates to unlocked devices
ansebovi said:
ya same here..but what they will do to unlocked phones/??
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Nothing they can do. As long as you don't flash an OTA or full stock build. They may have a way to patch it in their droidboot.
ansebovi said:
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3rd they removed after they heard about unlocking bootloader..something fishy right :laugh:
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That was my first guess as well
TheSSJ said:
Maybe there just will be a check and it will abort if the BL is unlocked
But it should be easy to adapt these OTA updates to unlocked devices
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no i am asking about bootloader[can they lock it somehow if we flash next ota]
Harfainx said:
Nothing they can do. As long as you don't flash an OTA or full stock build. They may have a way to patch it in their droidboot.
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so how can we update from here after ??? need to modified by someone for flashing ???
jaysus145 said:
That was my first guess as well
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ya my 1st thought too,, haha
ansebovi said:
so how can we update from here after ??? need to modified by someone for flashing ???
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That's how it works with all custom work. Once you're off stock, you're going to have to wait for someone to post a safe update/install.
Rushing in and taking an OTA is a very common way of breaking your build. Like what we see with running an OTA while rooted. Any number of problems can come up.
They could patch any number of things that would give you a very bad day.
With the support we have here though, we'll probably have flashable, safe OTA zips within a few hours of an OTA being captured/downloaded.
Harfainx said:
That's how it works with all custom work. Once you're off stock, you're going to have to wait for someone to post a safe update/install.
Rushing in and taking an OTA is a very common way of breaking your build. Like what we see with running an OTA while rooted. Any number of problems can come up.
They could patch any number of things that would give you a very bad day.
With the support we have here though, we'll probably have flashable, safe OTA zips within a few hours of an OTA being captured/downloaded.
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well i am from sony device..they release main update of android..and 1 bug fix,thats all...so we dont care..and no need to worry about relocking issues..
this is the first asus device...man they releasing update for every 10days..i thought we could apply just like that..but since they didnt gave unlocked bootloader tool ,i got these doubt..
and thanks for info..
so i must wait for zips which is modified for unlocked bootloader[if they trying to relock]
I honestly doubt they're going to find a way to relock it with an update, but who knows what voodoo they may come up with.
Either way, we'll grab the updates and get them ready to be flashed quickly. It's a simple process.
I highly doubt he will do anything regarding unlocking/locking bootloader. because:
1. last year they released their official tool to unlock zenfone 4,5,6 bootloader after 3-4 months of release.
2. This year when they launched the zf2 in US they hold contest and developer events via xda. Now xda is a place where no one keeps their bootloader locked. so they knew exactly where they are releasing and advertising the product.
So I dont think they would even bother about this bootloader . Maybe it is an unstable build in terms of their quality test.
Dang, and my 551 (2/16GB) is still in transit.
Was browsing the forum and this thread - has 2.19 been captured and saved somewhere else, or was everyone just downloading off ASUS servers for this OTA (when forced)?
I don't know if I would want 2.19 yet. Maybe to keep on my PC until the right time. That is, if 2.20 comes out and the BL hole is plugged, and those who were on 2.19 (and took advantage of the bootloader unlocking) still got the update successfully - if either of those two outcomes are false, I wouldn't use it.
joel.maxuel said:
Dang, and my 551 (2/16GB) is still in transit.
Was browsing the forum and this thread - has 2.19 been captured and saved somewhere else, or was everyone just downloading off ASUS servers for this OTA (when forced)?
I don't know if I would want 2.19 yet. Maybe to keep on my PC until the right time. That is, if 2.20 comes out and the BL hole is plugged, and those who were on 2.19 (and took advantage of the bootloader unlocking) still got the update successfully - if either of those two outcomes are false, I wouldn't use it.
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Everthings here http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/general/ota-links-stock-rom-t3093999
android is open source. and roms are not illegal. so why bother? i don't think asus is interested on ours bootloader plus, other zenfone's are already unlocked
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Dang, and my 551 (2/16GB) is still in transit.
Was browsing the forum and this thread - has 2.19 been captured and saved somewhere else, or was everyone just downloading off ASUS servers for this OTA (when forced)?
I don't know if I would want 2.19 yet. Maybe to keep on my PC until the right time. That is, if 2.20 comes out and the BL hole is plugged, and those who were on 2.19 (and took advantage of the bootloader unlocking) still got the update successfully - if either of those two outcomes are false, I wouldn't use it.
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Even if your phone gets here on a newer version (it won't), you could always downgrade everything and unlock from there. =)
Shakalaka has backups of everything going back to like version 2.12 or 2.13.
MatteXperiaU said:
android is open source. and roms are not illegal. so why bother? i don't think asus is interested on ours bootloader plus, other zenfone's are already unlocked
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Problem is they can't support any ROM that isn't official on the zenfone. They'll pass you off. Like most manufacturers.
These are just official update links from Asus. Not backups. Asus can shut those down at any point. Not saying they will.
See here for pre-rooted ROM backups:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/orig-development/rom-pre-root-img-t3079590
one more doubt..
i think 2.17 is stable build from asus without the android os drinking the battery
now i have unlocked the bootloader ,can i reflash the 2.17[asking since it doesnt have the things which enabled to unlock bootloader] ...or once unlocked,we can do anything like other brands phone?
damian5000 said:
These are just official update links from Asus. Not backups. Asus can shut those down at any point. Not saying they will.
See here for pre-rooted ROM backups:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/zenfone2/orig-development/rom-pre-root-img-t3079590
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I downloaded the appropriate OTA the other night, so if ASUS pulls the file, I still have it and can share it on Dropbox and/or Copy.
I get the phone today! So hopefully tonight I get the OTA up to 2.18 and then wait to see what upcoming 2.20 has to offer. If we can still unlock the BL with 2.20, I will let that OTA happen. Similarly if we find out that those who unlocked their bootloaders can't take the update (at that point I will cry a little, if there is no official way to unlock BL released with the update ).
If both scenarios above are false, then I will apply my downloaded 2.19, unlock the bootloader, then accept 2.20.
Best one could do eh?
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ansebovi said:
one more doubt..
i think 2.17 is stable build from asus without the android os drinking the battery
now i have unlocked the bootloader ,can i reflash the 2.17[asking since it doesnt have the things which enabled to unlock bootloader] ...or once unlocked,we can do anything like other brands phone?
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I cannot imagine it would re-lock the bootloader. Should be able to downgrade, as long as you use the whole image and not just the OTA zip.
Now you got me wondering....
joel.maxuel said:
I cannot imagine it would re-lock the bootloader. Should be able to downgrade, as long as you use the whole image and not just the OTA zip.
Now you got me wondering....
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no i didnt mean it will relock,..
but the unlocked needed some file right..it modifies something right? ...and it is not present in old things..so can old fw run on unlocked bootloader? [or would it get bootloop or damage bootloader]

[Q] [Sprint users] Anyone on the LS997ZV5 update yet?

** Update**
Seems after the LS997ZV4 update was pulled off, they changed it to LS997ZV5 instead and just got it 12/26/16
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I've been waiting for the OTA update on my phone, I have been manually checking for updates too but nothing happens!
The release date says 12/5/16 and I usually can get updates by manually checking with other android devices, not this time though..
https://support.sprint.com/support/...20:FindAndUpdateTheSoftwareVersionOnYourLgV20
Nope
Nope and don't take it if u planning on rooting in the near future
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Nope and don't take it if u planning on rooting in the near future
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Thanks for your response!
rooting isn't important for me as it was before lollipop, there's not much bloatware on the V20 and ads are being taken care of with adguard.
It's just bug fixes and security patches anyways
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It's just bug fixes and security patches anyways
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Yes I know! Security and bug fixes are important..
ls9997zv4 update no longer shown on sprint website
I saw that update listed on Sprint's site last week and was also frustrated not to get it. It must have had an error because it has been pulled. We are lucky not to received flawed firmware.
They probably pulled it to fix the exploit they have found for rooting the phone.
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they probably pulled it to fix the exploit they have found for rooting the phone.
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wooo i caused something!
Is there a way to stop the update from appearing or stop the phone from checking? I would like to accept updates only once people here assure us that it won't break the root method, given I may root at some point.
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I just got updated to LS997ZV5 Dec 1 Security patches, fixed an issue with loud speaker and stuff I don't remember.
I got it on 12/24. I had to click "check for update" quite a few times for it to show up.
Same here. I hoped it would have fixed the speaker distortion problem. But it did nothing for me.
Zor Omega said:
Same here. I hoped it would have fixed the speaker distortion problem. But it did nothing for me.
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to be Honest, never had the issue..
I was hoping for maybe camera software fine tuning
I also did a full restore, I like to start fresh with updates
So is it confirmed that the root method on the ZV5 no longer works? I just got my V20 off swappa and it already had the ZV5 installed. :crying:
longunmin said:
So is it confirmed that the root method on the ZV5 no longer works? I just got my V20 off swappa and it already had the ZV5 installed. :crying:
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Ditto, just got my V20 and it has ZV5 installed......ugh...........praying theres a way to roll back
Edit.....nevermind......my zv5 did manage to get root using DirtySanta....Profit!
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Ditto, just got my V20 and it has ZV5 installed......ugh...........praying theres a way to roll back
Edit.....nevermind......my zv5 did manage to get root using DirtySanta....Profit!
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Awesome! So you just followed the Dirty Santa guide from the other thread and you were golden? Is everything functional and working properly?
longunmin said:
Awesome! So you just followed the Dirty Santa guide from the other thread and you were golden? Is everything functional and working properly?
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I read everything I could find about rooting this thing and read all the comments that the bootloader exploit was fix with the December patch.but nothing convinced me not to...Im a old Samsung guy, Note 2, 3 & 4 so rooting without having Odin to back me up was a tad daunting as well as having to remember how to use ADB....I took a chance and it worked......I got the sd corrupt error ( no biggie, I had backups) and battery drain is kinda high ( no sprint custom kernels yet) ....of course it not being a stock sprint rom things like wifi calling, sprint zone and voicemail are missing ( but Team Dev now hows a stock rooted sprint rom out, Ill try that in the am) everything is running just fine...installed all my apps, made a titanium backup and a twrp backup.....
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I read everything I could find about rooting this thing and read all the comments that the bootloader exploit was fix with the December patch.but nothing convinced me not to...Im a old Samsung guy, Note 2, 3 & 4 so rooting without having Odin to back me up was a tad daunting as well as having to remember how to use ADB....I took a chance and it worked......I got the sd corrupt error ( no biggie, I had backups) and battery drain is kinda high ( no sprint custom kernels yet) ....of course it not being a stock sprint rom things like wifi calling, sprint zone and voicemail are missing ( but Team Dev now hows a stock rooted sprint rom out, Ill try that in the am) everything is running just fine...installed all my apps, made a titanium backup and a twrp backup.....
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Thank you! I may wait to see how the stock sprint ROM works and then I'll jump in. Definitely won't update with any security patches in the meantime

(sprint v20) working on a root for ls997 zv6 update??

Are any devs working on a root for ls997 (sprint v20) zv6 update?? Will it be possible ever? Just wondering .. I know i was told i wouldnt be able to root on zv6 so i guess now im wondering if its even being worked on or looked at.. Thanks!
Im not even looking at it.
me2151 said:
Im not even looking at it.
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Oh.. Just not interested in getting it rooted?
Spanky' said:
Oh.. Just not interested in getting it rooted?
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I do have a possible way but it is WAY to complicated for use. It can EASILY result in a hardbrick. and mostly untested. if that method ever gets released i will have done countless hours of testing on my own device before i even attempt to tell someone how to do it. That being said. as of right now. i am rooted on a custom rom. there is no incentive for me to try to work on it. if i do eventually get bricked for somereason and get a replacement with zv6 on it then yes i will work on getting root for that.
Ahh i see no worries.. Sucks we have no way of even getting back also.. Ugh first phone i havnt been able to root... It does suck..
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Ahh i see no worries.. Sucks we have no way of even getting back also.. Ugh first phone i havnt been able to root... It does suck..
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Getting back as in downgrading? Correct there is no kdz to downgrade with. However i have confirmed that ARB is still set to 00 on zv6 meaning that if we manage to create a KDZ then zv6 CAN be downgraded.
@me2151, I got a question for you.... I went to jail on march 21st, my phone got stolen and was taken to the ECOATM. I just ended up getting it back on Friday. what im trying to figure out is if im still good to root. I have been reading about this zv6 update and im hoping and praying that my phone has not updated. I will have acess to it tomorrow. should I go in as soon as I turn it on and turn off OTA updates and make sure it doesn't update? or do you think that ECO atm went ahead and updated it? I know the service was disconnected on march 25th. also thank you for your time and help
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@me2151, I got a question for you.... I went to jail on march 21st, my phone got stolen and was taken to the ECOATM. I just ended up getting it back on Friday. what im trying to figure out is if im still good to root. I have been reading about this zv6 update and im hoping and praying that my phone has not updated. I will have acess to it tomorrow. should I go in as soon as I turn it on and turn off OTA updates and make sure it doesn't update? or do you think that ECO atm went ahead and updated it? I know the service was disconnected on march 25th. also thank you for your time and help
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if you are concerned with a auto update you can remove the simcard when you turn it on to check what version you are on. I dont know the business practices of ECOATM so i cannot say they did or didnt update it. I would just pray its not zv6
ugh I hope to god not, but where I don't currently have active service on it that should help also?
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Getting back as in downgrading? Correct there is no kdz to downgrade with. However i have confirmed that ARB is still set to 00 on zv6 meaning that if we manage to create a KDZ then zv6 CAN be downgraded.
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So basically if i have any hopes of getting a root ... I shouldnt do any more updates to my v20? And that would be cool to get root for zv6 and some how create a kdz for it if need be!
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So basically if i have any hopes of getting a root ... I shouldnt do any more updates to my v20? And that would be cool to get root for zv6 and some how create a kdz for it if need be!
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Correct.
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Correct.
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Ok dually noted haha
I'm due to buy a new phone any day now, does anyone know if phones are shipping from the factory with ZV6, or do they ship with the original FW and take the update OTA.
Really getting more and more bummed being on Sprint. It seems like each generation root on Sprint gets harder and harder. I can't just buy whatever the current flagship is like I used to and not have to do a ****load of research first.
Samsung S8 -> No root on Snapdragon, maybe ever
LGV20 -> No root on ZV6, but it's being worked on
LG G6 -> No root and from what I've seen things don't look super promising for awhile
I was going to wait a few weeks to see how things are shaking out with the G6, but if the V20 is shipping with the old firmware I'd just buy it now and take the sure bet.
fiver5 said:
I'm due to buy a new phone any day now, does anyone know if phones are shipping from the factory with ZV6, or do they ship with the original FW and take the update OTA.
Really getting more and more bummed being on Sprint. It seems like each generation root on Sprint gets harder and harder. I can't just buy whatever the current flagship is like I used to and not have to do a ****load of research first.
Samsung S8 -> No root on Snapdragon, maybe ever
LGV20 -> No root on ZV6, but it's being worked on
LG G6 -> No root and from what I've seen things don't look super promising for awhile
I was going to wait a few weeks to see how things are shaking out with the G6, but if the V20 is shipping with the old firmware I'd just buy it now and take the sure bet.
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Sucks for us who took the ota.. Were pretty screwed at the moment... It sucks that these devices are loosing root ability... I loved being able to root my phones.. Ugh as for them still coming with old FW im not sure sorry
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Sucks for us who took the ota.. Were pretty screwed at the moment... It sucks that these devices are loosing root ability... I loved being able to root my phones.. Ugh as for them still coming with old FW im not sure sorry
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Just picked this phone up with out doing any research... It automatically updated to the v6 before I realized that the phone is set to auto update.. The v7 notification continues, as if I want it! Any news on rooting v6? Guess I'll just exchange this one for a different color and then make sure it does not auto ruin (update) MY phone! :silly:
LS997Zv6 Let'sGoogle Phone

Koodo / Telus updates...

Does anybody know if there is anything special with the koodo / telus builds? Even though the June update has been out for a week and a half it is still MIA in Koodoland. I know I can download the OTA and sideload it, it's what I've done the past few times, but the last time I decided to not root the phone again because I didn't feel like going through the trouble again and wanted to start installing OTAs. If there is nothing special with the koodo / telus builds I might just go ahead and do that again... but then why is it taking so long?
You don't need to root to flash an ota. Flash it in stock recovery, get the ota file from essential website.
Or are you just saying that sideloading itself is a hassle? I don't find it takes very long and is pretty straightforward. You'll probably get more answers if you post this in Q&A as well since that's what that section is for.
crixley said:
You don't need to root to flash an ota. Flash it in stock recovery, get the ota file from essential website.
Or are you just saying that sideloading itself is a hassle? I don't find it takes very long and is pretty straightforward. You'll probably get more answers if you post this in Q&A as well since that's what that section is for.
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Yeah, I meant more the hassle part. I wanted to try it like the normal folks do.
And thanks for the suggestion, I wonder if a mod could move it... or else I'll repost it there in a little bit.
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Yeah, I meant more the hassle part. I wanted to try it like the normal folks do.
And thanks for the suggestion, I wonder if a mod could move it... or else I'll repost it there in a little bit.
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Np! For the record mine would fail even when I wasn't rooted and I ended up having to sideload anyway. Not sure why!
Got mine from Amazon.ca, unlocked. Bootloader says VARIANT: OPENAM
I'm on Koodo's network and the June update's still not here. Ended up sideloading instead. Don't know what's up with that.
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Does anybody know if there is anything special with the koodo / telus builds? Even though the June update has been out for a week and a half it is still MIA in Koodoland. I know I can download the OTA and sideload it, it's what I've done the past few times, but the last time I decided to not root the phone again because I didn't feel like going through the trouble again and wanted to start installing OTAs. If there is nothing special with the koodo / telus builds I might just go ahead and do that again... but then why is it taking so long?
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i just got mine from a guy who was with fido and inserted my videotron sim and got the update right away...

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