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While I was on CM7 I kept asking myself whether the time was right to switch to "stock" gingerbread in order to get rid of the few CM7 nasties (such as battery life, FM radio, lack of BLN support,...) without giving up too many of the goodies (performance, performance, performance). I hoped there was some insight into objective comparisons, i.e. people who had tested both and could give some "neutral" feedback. Well, I couldn't find it.
So I now find myself on samsung's gingerbread for the first time and these are my findings*:
Performance**:
CM7
The best I've tried so far. No doubt.
Number of installed apps does not affect performance.
JVR
Acceptable, but after getting used to CM7 there is noticeable lag (lapse between gesture and screen reaction) and hiccups when scrolling down menus. Tested with rfs and ext4 ("lagfix"). All in all, performance is noticeably worse than CM7.
Battery***:
CM7
Improves greatly with GB bootloaders [BL] (custom kernel has to support it) but it only affects standby drain (lowers to about 1~3 %/hr).
Usage drain is ridiculous (20~50 %/hr depending on type of use and connectivity).
Typical average battery life has been about 10~24hrs.
JVR
Standby drain is about the same as with CM7 & GB BL (about 1~3 %/hr).
Usage drain is about 10~30% (general feeling about half as draining).
Typical average battery life is being about 15~36hrs.
Android system process shoots CPU usage up to 99.9% while charging (reboot fixes this). Not sure if this is actually a bug.
Miscellaneous:
CM7
No BLN support (as of custom kernels on Aug 15th). No blinking led notification support.
No FM radio (as of #80)
Voodoo sound/color support is kernel dependent
Minor BT car system (A2DP) bugs. Not reproducible with BT dongle.
Horrible Wifi reception and timeouts with WPA2 + hidden SSID (might be custom kernels).
No TV-out support.
No 720p recording (?)
JVR
BLN support is kernel dependent
Voodoo sound/color support is kernel dependent
I might have overseen a bug or been inaccurate at some point. Please feel free to fill the voids or correct any imprecisions.
*I was on CM7 #80 with Zach's Neo kernel v16 r2 (GB BL!). Have also tried Glitch's.
I am now on JVR Simplicity v0.31 (Semaphore kernel 1.5).
**No OC/UV for the sake of fairness of this test (improves performance about 30~50%).
***Battery findings are merely subjective appreciations I have made on a daily usage basis. No scientific mA/h tests or benchmarks have been made. I apologize for that...
This thread should serve for everyone who has tried both ROMs to give their feedback and for those weighing to make the switch to ask questions and have more info.
Cheers!
Nice job on writing this up.
For me CM7 on the SGS is out of the question, because battery and BLN are two of my most importing things that I need daily.
I even went as far as getting the Samsung Armani Battery 1650Mah battery (same physical size as the stock battery) to give me the extra battery life I need.
As for CM7, I may throw that on my Atrix down the road. Some people that have used the beta of it say they think battery life is better than stock. Time will tell, but battery life is an absolute must on my phones which sadly rules CM7 out for me at least on the SGS...
Problems I have with CM7:
* Battery drain (obviously), but since #86 I usually get through the day without recharging.
* Random reboots
* sometimes suddenly loses reception (comes back after some time)
* broken 2g/3g-toggle (don't know if it's fixed yet, didn't dare to try)
Problems I have with stock-ROMs:
* often Launcher-redraws
* no USB-tethering on Linux
Problems I have with all GB ROMs:
* GPS-performance is bad. It's usable after applying hardware fix, but when comparing with Froyo ROMs (e.g. Darky 9.5), they always win.
You can get led notifications with Neo's kernel, v17r5 currently. No need for BLN app. :]
Otherwise, CM7 is just smoking the stock ROM, specially if many apps are installed. I can compare the phone to AOSP Desire experience, before I exchanged it for SGS a month ago.
Btw, Green battery saver app helps alot, it turns off wifi/mobile for specified intervals, so less drain when idle and you don't need to manually toggle it. Same **** as iPhone does.
I have messed both with CM7 #80 and JVR. Now I am back to stock JVR because CM7:
- does not support 720p recording
- I had a lot of issues with calling, the other person couldn't hear me. This seems to happen randomly to many users and makes it for me unusable.
There's HD recording @ 30fps on 2 recent nightlies I tried.
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I was wondering, in CM7 does flash performance is still as low as in stock roms ? Most of the video websites I visit work awfull on JVR.
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I was wondering, in CM7 does flash performance is still as low as in stock roms ? Most of the video websites I visit work awfull on JVR.
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In my experience there is a great improvement in flash performance in cm7 (and decline in samsung's gb). Especially in flash video playback. Beware though not to expect anything similar to computer-like performance in this field.
You want a fast, smooth UI and not expect a drawback in battery use? There has got to be a sacrificial lamb in there. The fact that idle drain is already comparable with stock roms means there is no more "battery drain" issue in CM7.
I left CM7 with fugumod kernel overnight, I lost 2% battery in 9 hours.
I left Simplicity overnight. I lost 10% in 9 hours.
Just my findings off of one test
Nice Job
Thank you for your interesting info
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In my experience there is a great improvement in flash performance in cm7 (and decline in samsung's gb). Especially in flash video playback. Beware though not to expect anything similar to computer-like performance in this field.
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I was wondering, in CM7 does flash performance is still as low as in stock roms ? Most of the video websites I visit work awfull on JVR.
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for me, flash is crazy good since jvq and flash update. 720p fluid in the browser. silky smooth scrolling, gpu helps a lot.
Quite accurate but:
-wifi for me is horrible on stock and cm7...compared the galaxy s my old iphone 3gs was much better.
-battery when phone is on use is same on cm7 and stock... 'till you use data connection. When using 2g/3g on cm7, battery goes down like a hell.
This because samsung driver are closed source i suppose.
Imho Gingebread is not a great update respect froyo.
Just switched back to stock rom from cm7 nightly. I really liked cm's features but after a while the battery drain was too much.
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I was just about to post a thread like this! The last samsung rom i tried, jvq, was for lack of a better word, **** compared to CM7. I wondered if JVR was better but its probably not much better than jvq. For me, i think i can live with the 'drawbacks' of CM7 as it just makes the phone as good as it should be - fast as hell.
Interestingly enough, as you can see from my sig im posting from a galaxy tab. The stock sammy firmware on this is much better on this than most stock sgs roms.
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I was just about to post a thread like this! The last samsung rom i tried, jvq, was for lack of a better word, **** compared to CM7. I wondered if JVR was better but its probably not much better than jvq. For me, i think i can live with the 'drawbacks' of CM7 as it just makes the phone as good as it should be - fast as hell.
Interestingly enough, as you can see from my sig im posting from a galaxy tab. The stock sammy firmware on this is much better on this than most stock sgs roms.
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I have to say that I was the same (and I still like to switch roms) but JVR is like from a different dev team at Samsung. I am talking about stock JVR. Give it a try and you will see that it is the perfect stock rom.
My issue with CM7 are the colours. Both on stock and Voodoo. There is something about it that I can't get right even after following a few guides here.
Having said that, CM7 is a very good, features rich, fast rom. I don't think any stock rom would get to that speed due to the filesystem difference.
K.
It's interesting that nobody mentions the problem during calls. Is this an isolated problem, happening to only a few of us ?
I am very very impatient when it comes to responsiveness so I'm on CM7 for a while. Hoever, most likely, I will go back to stock because of:
-problems during calls (other person can't hear me - hold-unhold call sometimes fixes this, sometimes not)
- headset controlls not working (can't answer calls, can't control music); very annoying, this was introduced when a fix for FM radio was tried. FM radio still does not work but it managed to screw up the headset controls
- no 720p recording - well, you CAN record but the frames skip a lot and audio is not synced
- when using 3g/h battery goes down REALLY fast and phone heats up a LOT
- last but not least devs are concentrating on SGS2, so any fixes will probably take a long while to be implemented (if there's gonna be any fixes); the development has slowed a lot (still, my thank to the devs for their hard work)
The grass is always greener on the other side, is it? I love CM for its pure android experience, its speed and the control. But yes, there are bugs and that's to be expected if you have to work with closed source blob's and pretty weird hardware (search for atinm's post in the CM7 thread). I'm willing to live with the remaining bugs because the advantages of CM7 are just to big. But my next phone is going to be a Nexus one for sure. That's the only way I'm guaranteed a real android phone without any of the OEM crap.
Jvr odexed with a few fixes is best for me. Camera, colours, no radio and battery drain just not good enough on cm7 for my needs.
Stock Samsung jvr is better than my cm7 2.2.4 nexus one.
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I have the opportunity to get a white i9505 with 16 GB RAM for €150.
I would like to understand if a rock stable CM style ROM is available or which one is the most appropriate when this features have priority:
battery running time
phone call quality and app stability
camera app stability and best snapshot quality
GPS signal quality / car navigation quality
overall stability
overall speed
I would like to have at least CM 11 (KitKat) and I did find those candidates (for comparison I also added a stock/CM mix):
[ROM][6.0.1][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 13 Status: Testing; no issues reported in the OP; late thread issues: some apps&root, bluetooth reactivation, laggy lockscreen (pin lock),
[JDCTeam][6.0.1][12 March] Optimized CyanogenMod 13.0 builds Status: Testing; no issues reported in the OP; late thread issues: network change,
[ROM][5.1.1][OFFICIAL] CyanogenMod 12.1 Status: Testing?; no issues reported in the OP; late thread issues: calls, battery drain, BT issues, random reboot
[JDCTeam][STABLE][5.1.1][26 January] Optimized CyanogenMod 12.1 builds [EOL] Status: Stable; issues reported in the OP: ANT+; late thread issues: RRO, Snap.apk camera crash,
[ROM][Official][4.4.4] CyanogenMod 11.0 Nightlies for the Qcom Intl Galaxy S4 (jflte) Status: Testing; no issues reported in the OP; late thread issues: ? note sure if CM-Wiki is up to date;
[ROM] Super WizCyan - S6 Port [debloated - 543.7MB, rooted + Addon Package]-27-Feb-16 (5.0.1) Status: Stable; issues reported in the OP: Automatic brightness, model & device & product name; late thread issues: ?
Found some useful posts:
sh4z CM12.1, CM11, stock/modded, CM13, oCM12.1, oCM 12.1 a, b
Finatic downgrade CM12.1>CM11, KK is way better then LP or MM,
So it seems CM11 is the most solid and oCM12.1 also solid but not sure if my impressions are well for my requirements.
Any suggestion regarding the listed or other CM style ROM is appreciated. Thank you for your experience.
the xda philosophy is kinda try it and decide for yourself. or search each of those threads with the keyword "bug", the thing is even the exact same models have slightly different versions of the hardware so what works perfectly for one guy can be a nightmare for another.
The only way is to try for yourself.
All roms ran fine for me. It all depends on how you use your phone, really.
I'd say a good starting point would be Optimized CM13. Thanks to the custom kernel included, you can have performance and battery life, depending on what profile you have selected.
From my experience, CM11 usually promises more stability and battery life. I just got i9505 this morning and still testing but CM 12.1 build 20151117 doesn't seem so bad.
In my opinion CM12.1 Snapshot (2015-11-17) is the most Stable ROM for JFLTEXX.
I just got my S4 a few days ago (I paid 50€ ) and running JDC CM 12.1
It's awesome stable and if you install a 3rd party camera app it works just fine
Coming from a S2 witch was petty laggy and crashed quiet often this upgrade is awesome!
I had not even one crash, I'm experiencing no lag and it's really fast
GPS works great, outside it fixes in about 3 seconds
For a good battery review it's too early for me but so far I can't complain, got below 10% awake and in airplane more 0.2%/h loss
I really can recommend this ROM!
There is a more up to date version in the thread but it's not listed on the first page, it's from 25.02.2016 just look for it
Just a little feedback on Official Cm12.1 (CM 12.1 build 2015/11/17) - been using this as a daily driver for a few weeks now (using novalauncher for my homescreen).
Performance & battery has been generally fine - even with moderate use (wifi or mobile data constantly left enabled, plenty of screen-on time, lots of photos, frequent use of whatsapp & SMS, email etc - but not really anything particularly draining such as long trips with GPS, or extended media usage), I get a good 2 and a bit days from each charge...
I'm sure I'd find my battery taking more of a hit if I were using it as an MP3 player to/from work, or having to use GPS frequently, but for day-to-day usage, battery has been excellent.
The included camera is good - nothing special to report (which is a good thing imo). No bugs, no unexpected behavior for good or ill, and no need to change the camera app unless there's a specific need (for higher-end functions, etc..).
Nightclub, low-light photos have been acceptable, daytime "optimal circumstances" pics have been great.
My girlfriend's S5 (using Samsung-branded rom) camera is more annoying, taking longer to find focus, is more temperamental (sometimes will only find focus if flash is on) and more unpredictable in what the resulting image will look like.
I'm not a camera geek (unless we're talking film SLRs), but I prefer mine to hers.
I've tested the GPS a few times, from cold-start it's about as quick as my standalone tomtom unit (not enough difference for me to put them side by side to test), and definitely faster to locate my initial position than my Gal-S2 using stock rom.
No drop-outs yet, but I've only used it briefly for testing, I've not had to do any long distance trips yet.
Again, only my gut feeling, but if it had taken an inordinately long time to locate me, then I'd have done some further testing...
Stability has been wonderful - no reboots, no mysterious crashes, or hangs to date.
I did get an error when I first installed, because after flashing the rom I (foolishly) rebooted before flashing GAPPS (which I should have done *immediately* after flashing the rom before leaving recovery), but a quick factory wipe & reflash of GAPPS sorted this without even having to reflash the rom. Bonus.
The only annoying things I've found are;
A) Lack of USB mass-storage (UMS). This is intrinsic to android though, only going back to version (what? 4.2? 4.4? Something like that) would help as my understanding is that it is simply no longer supported as a whole, and not the fault of any specific rom.
There is a semi-hidden option to use UMS available when the device is already connected to your PC via cable, but so far this has been of little use as it still doesn't let me access the SD card like the old Mass Storage function used to.
B) USB OTG. Worked out of the box first time, but after that first use, my device no longer detected a USB OTG cable was connected.
To rectify this issue, I simply rooted the device, and used Chainfire's StickMount (or USB OTG helper, either app worked), and now USB OTG is again fully supported.
I can't give any constructive feedback on the other roms you suggested - I briefly tried Official CM13, but one of my "must have" apps (ACR - automatic call recorder) was not playing nicely with CM13, so I immediately switched to CM12.1, and the exact-same .apk now works flawlessly.
I can't say if it's to do with Marshmallow, the CM13 rom, or what, so that's only a tenuous, anecdotal report.
Anyway, hope this helps narrow it down for you - for me, CM12.1 has been perfect; Stable, good battery life, and no unexpected behavior - pretty much everything I want from a rom tbh...
First of all, thank you that you dont open a thread with something like that:"What best rom for s4". Nice to see that you search for infos in the forum before you open up an thread! My favourite is CM12.1 last nightly!
My experience with other ROMs:
CM13 Nightly Bluetooth, Laggy UI and Bad Performance compared to CM12.1
Optimized CM13 network change, no EDGE only HSDPA and LTE, for CM12.1 performance you need "extreme performance" profile, touch issues
CM12.1 Snapshot/Nightly Sometime call issues (testing a solution)
Opzimized CM12.1 Snap Cam crash, huge BT issues with some drives, not best performance, touch issues
CM11 Nightly App crash in the background, than phone gets hot and takes down the battery in some hours.
Why CM12.1?
-Good batterylife
-Great performance (with l speed about 38.000P at AnTuTu)
-BT works to 99%
-no freeze and reboot in over 700h uptime
-smooth IU
-charging up to 1900mAh
-with faster GPS you get your postition in seconds
Thank you very much to all for your comments and statements. They help a lot and I think I will focus on CM12.1 variants testing.
I have a further question in my head: I wonder how CM12.1 is compared to the stock ROM regarding the features I care most for?
ChriMo said:
battery running time
phone call quality and app stability
camera app stability and best snapshot quality
GPS signal quality / car navigation quality
overall stability
overall speed
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I've tested all ROMs from above and I have to say one thing - CM11 is the best ROM for daily usage. Without any custom kernels. And I will be use CM11 while it got updates.
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MuF123 said:
When we are supposed to go that back into past, isn't it actually worth going for some lightweight TW ROM?
Any ideas which light TW rom to try? Do those have any BT issues?
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OMEGA TW Custom ROM (4.4.2) with Aroma Installer can be lightweight ROM without most of bloatware. I've test it and havn't any BT issues.
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I've tested all ROMs from above and I have to say one thing - CM11 is the best ROM for daily usage. Without any custom kernels. And I will be use CM11 while it got updates.
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Personally, I like my Optimised CM 12.1
even if some points are really annoying me, and I might go back to TW...
- Screen is brighter
- Phone volume is louder
Are those problems present in CM 11? Can't remember.
Thanks
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Are those problems present in CM 11? Can't remember.
Thanks
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As for me I havnt issues like above.
MY GT-I9505 personal ROMS experience:
I tested ALL roms:
CM13: It ROCKS! NO Bugs or so ever, smooth experience, snappy camera, (BTW I'm using CAMERA FV-5, which give you better image quality in settings, and advanced controlle), GOOD battery life, call and signal quality is perfect, gps and sensonrs work fine.
SUPER Wizcyan: In the beginning it seemed fine, until I installed all my apps, the the crapy lag beggined. NOT recommended.
CM12.1: SAME AS 13 BUT!: I prefer cm13 because it it more devolopped and has better software, even if it's still nightly builds.
HERE Begins your personal experience, Choose what YOU want and prefer, this is only MY review for this roms.
Here is a place to share your experience with MM update.
Discuss stuff like battery life, performance, bugs and other things.
Let discussions begin!
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Battery life and stability is good so far!
First day on 6.0.1. I am happy so far with battery life and stability. About 5 hours of SOT and almost 24 hours of use.
That's great. No turning back to LP for me
better wifi connection on MM too. Just wish I had TWRP for it so I could make a backup
haven't had problems with MM yet, battery seems a bit better, Doze for sure improve stanby, rest so far stable and working as it should
Liking it for the most part. Stable, not met any bugs. RAM is good, battery seems about the same. Not keen on the new wallpaper settings style and the new audio wizard is confusing. I also got the beta version of the zen launcher - only slight visual tweaks really, but gives it a bit of a fresh feeling.
Bug: Every time I transfer a compile apk to install, it always takes me out the first time the package is corrupt but install the second test.
I had a recurring bug display after running a graphics-intensive application (it stutters) is resolved.
For the rest it's not better or worse than lollipop, autonomy is worth. This version brings nothing convincing.
better and better than 5.0.
RAM is so good
i have a huge problem with gyroscope and proximity. Both not working.
Anyone here experiencing bugs with the AudioWizard? It resets its config upon reboot?
Quick question, since I have not installed it yet. I assume it combines all your internal storage (system and internal storage) like Cm13 does? To me, it's one of the more important features. Having the 2gb/16gb US model, that gives me a lot more space for apps.
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what CPU govenor does it use? Please tell me its not interactive (or that you get a decent selection at least).
If i use the standard 5.0.1 setup I go through around 4-6% of battery per hour, using tasker to switch off/on cpu cores and slow others down its down to 2-3% without a noticeable impact to performance.
Antutu benchmark result
63218 ! Isn't that great?
My experience with MM
Battery Life -
Since I am a new user, I cannot post screenshots here. Sorry about that. Overall battert life has been okay for now. Need to give the system about a week before making a judgement on it I guess.
Performance -
General performance has been quite smooth, but will need to test with heavier games to check RAM management. Normally, apps open almost instantly.
Bugs -
- Even after applying Super Saving mode (Settings > Power Management > Power Saver), I've found that window animations still exist, which was not the case with Lollipop.
- There appears to be a slightly reddish tint to the screen when Youtube video information overlay appears. Although the tint disappears when video goes fullscreen again.
As of now, these are the only issues I could find.
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Quick question, since I have not installed it yet. I assume it combines all your internal storage (system and internal storage) like Cm13 does? To me, it's one of the more important features. Having the 2gb/16gb US model, that gives me a lot more space for apps.
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Don't think so. It still has "system reserved" space according to the storage bit of settings menu.
VinzNguyen said:
better and better than 5.0.
RAM is so good
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How much free ram do you have when you clear all the apps?
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How much free ram do you have when you clear all the apps?
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usually 750-850mb, which is not so different than before. The thing is that used to drop to under 300 and slow down over time unless you manually cleared, but now it seems to release RAM by itself properly. I can now forget about RAM.
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> 1GB
i have Facebook and messenger app <3
Had my first weird wakelock this morning. Phone has been mostly asleep on my desk the last 4 hours, but battery stats show it awake all the time and with weird wifi behaviour too (I didn't toggle off wifi, but there is no wifi connection here).
I'd say the Marshmallow update was long overdue. Although I am really enjoying the beta release.
Bugs:
Android Pay doesn't seem to be working anymore, I'm getting the dreadful "Google is unable to verify" message when trying to add cards.
The notification bar jerks open sometimes, though that's a common issue in Marshmallow.
The latest Poweramp app isn't working for me. Can't tell if that's the app's fault or the phone. It did work before switching to the beta release.
Notes: Battery life looks way better than before, with almost no drain on standby in my tests. Other than that there's not much to say though I COMPLETELY hate that they replaced the Clear All Apps button with the booster thing that shows you how much RAM was released. I'm having to get used to just not clearing the apps anymore (though w/ the 4GB RAM model that's not too bad).
Hi Guys, I am facing network coverage issues in the Zuk Z1 running on Stock 12.1- YOG4PAS7DF. My other cell phones have better reception compared to the Zuk whereas Zuk won't be able to receive calls or won't connect to data services at my place of Stay(intermittently). My others phones with the same carrier used to work flawlessly at the same spot. Did a bit of googling and found out that changing the baseband firmware will help in better signal reception. If i got a signed baseband firmware zip of One plus and flash it in Zuk, it will brick the device, right.? Any other way to port the baseband of another model to Zuk so as to improve the signal reception.? Or is there any other way to improve the signal reception.? (I am facing poor reception at some other places too and i am using the carrier with best network coverage in Bangalore- India) .
Note : Does this poor signal reception has anything to do with SAR values.? Zuk zeems to have to lowest SAR value when compared with other cell phones like Xiaomi Redmi series, iphones etc.
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Hi Guys, I am facing network coverage issues in the Zuk Z1 running on Stock 12.1- YOG4PAS7DF. My other cell phones have better reception compared to the Zuk whereas Zuk won't be able to receive calls or won't connect to data services at my place of Stay(intermittently). My others phones with the same carrier used to work flawlessly at the same spot. Did a bit of googling and found out that changing the baseband firmware will help in better signal reception. If i got a signed baseband firmware zip of One plus and flash it in Zuk, it will brick the device, right.? Any other way to port the baseband of another model to Zuk so as to improve the signal reception.? Or is there any other way to improve the signal reception.? (I am facing poor reception at some other places too and i am using the carrier with best network coverage in Bangalore- India) .
Note : Does this poor signal reception has anything to do with SAR values.? Zuk zeems to have to lowest SAR value when compared with other cell phones like Xiaomi Redmi series, iphones etc.
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See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z1/help/reception-t3232314 the cm14 based roms have better reception, I tested it for weeks and also overall call quality is much better(Germany, t-mobile)
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See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z1/help/reception-t3232314 the cm14 based roms have better reception, I tested it for weeks and also overall call quality is much better(Germany, t-mobile)
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I have gone through the reviews on CM14. It is awesome , but still i would like the camera app to function as it is in Stock ROM. We can't get the same Camera clarity in CM13 or 14, i guess. Flashing a CM14 baseband on Stock CM12 ROM may brick the device, i suppose.
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I have gone through the reviews on CM14. It is awesome , but still i would like the camera app to function as it is in Stock ROM. We can't get the same Camera clarity in CM13 or 14, i guess. Flashing a CM14 baseband on Stock CM12 ROM may brick the device, i suppose.
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For me the camera quality is the same on cos12.1 and cm14/cm13. It's a bad camera, no software can make it better. It's only minor visible, but hey, it's a mid range device and its written on every website that the zuk camera is bad, so live with that and no, the stock cam can't be portet. Use alternative apps like open camera or what you want. The baseband also cannot be flashed.
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For me the camera quality is the same on cos12.1 and cm14/cm13. It's a bad camera, no software can make it better. It's only minor visible, but hey, it's a mid range device and its written on every website that the zuk camera is bad, so live with that and no, the stock cam can't be portet. Use alternative apps like open camera or what you want. The baseband also cannot be flashed.
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Thanks @strongst. . However, i felt that stock camera clarity is better than CM13 .. Will try the CM14 , after all good network reception is the primary expectation from a cell phone :cyclops:
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Thanks @strongst. . However, i felt that stock camera clarity is better than CM13 .. Will try the CM14 , after all good network reception is the primary expectation from a cell phone :cyclops:
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Yeah that's true, with CM14 it's better for me to handle calls in house, the reception is quite better
Friends, I found lots question on the xda about best Oreo Rom for Kenzo (SD, 2Gb) . We all know MIUI 9 MM or other MIUI 9 based custom roms are ram hungry. There are so many alternative roms which have poor ram management issue, battery drain problem. Now I will tell you something about best Oreo Rom even the best custom rom for Kenzo. I have been using it from 28 Dec 2017 after being dissatisfied with MIUI9 N (battery, volte issue, lags,poor camera), NOS 7.0/8.0/8.1,( battery draining, poor ram management), citrus caf (battery draining, poor ram management, Lags), Cardinal AOSP( good rom but ram management is poor).
If you are looking for a 8.1 roms then i will say Havoc or ABC , some one said on different post about ABC is very smooth, running PUBG very well without any lag but i dont play high graphics game so i can't say about it.
I personally a fan of Havoc due to its customization and stability . No heating issue on normal uses, not hotspot or wifi issue, very good battery backup with Agni 12.8 . in build font changing option, in build boot animation changing option , pie control , rounded ui, colour Engine , Android P animation, android P screen shot editor . Screen on gesture , gesture anywhere , take photo with fingerprint scanner, face auto unlock tc .
So now my preference is Havoc Os. Use latest os with magisk 16.4 + Agni 12.8
look at my screen shots bellow
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soumyaprakash said:
Friends, I found lots question on the xda about best Oreo Rom for Kenzo (SD, 2Gb) . We all know MIUI 9 MM or other MIUI 9 based custom roms are ram hungry. There are so many alternative roms which have poor ram management issue, battery drain problem. Now I will tell you something about best Oreo Rom even the best custom rom for Kenzo. I have been using it from 28 Dec 2017 after being dissatisfied with MIUI9 N (battery, volte issue, lags,poor camera), NOS 7.0/8.0/8.1,( battery draining, poor ram management), citrus caf (battery draining, poor ram management, Lags), Cardinal AOSP( good rom but ram management is poor).
The Rom is MCAOSP 8.0 03-12-2017 (https://plus.google.com/u/0/109509643115521921407/posts/ga6DjAbqJ52) . Best part of this Rom is its Ram Management, 1gb out of 2gb free on first boot. With two /three app in background you will get around 650-700 mb free ram. Battery backup is awesome. With Shadow Kernel it becomes more solid. Call quality, signal strength (VOLTE) very good & also better than other custom rom. Sound quality is loud, clear.
Now Cons- No Camera app, No Music Player app, no Gallery, No browser.
So My apps are
1- MIUI browser( APK MIRROR)
2-Phonography Music Player(Google Pay)
3- MIUI Video Plaer( APK MIRROR)
4- Alcatel File Manager( Very Simple, Very Fast)( APK MIRROR)
5- HTC U11 Gallery app ( Believe me , best gallery)( google it)
6-Alcatel Calculator( APK MIRROR)
7-OnePlus Weater APP( very Nice Animation)( APK MIRROR)
8-Flyme OS6 Note App( google it)
9- Magisk 15.2
10-Mix Explorer ( Better than Root Explorer)
11-Substratum ( with Galaxy Evolution Theme)
12-Nova Launcher
13- And for camera--Arnova8G2's Google Camera 1.6. I think we all know about it.(BGS Setting -Model Pixel 2, HDR+ -Nexus 6 HDR+Auto, with this setting you will get front/back potrait working with HDR+ processing. For Slow Motion Recording you can use MIUI Camera APK version.
14-For best sound and bass, use Snapdragon Music FX and place it at system>APP>Music FX. You can find it at XDA.
If any one have volte problem , you can flash VOLTE patch by JamFlux. For detail search in EPIC Redmi note3 forum XDA
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Will try when I get 2gb kenzo
sarveshrulz said:
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I don't need any one's care. Its all about help some body who need it. I have given all details in the post, so no need to reply as all the details at main post.
But again Thanks you so much , as you care most.
shamith said:
Will try when I get 2gb kenzo
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sorry friend, I don't understand what you want to say. I have 2Gb ram model, as I am getting 800mb out of 2Gb on MCAOSP 8.0 , so I feel this post can help all kenzo user whether 2Gb or 3Gb model and I just mentioned some usefull stock apps . Thank you
Ignore rude replies and keep sharing useful stuff !
screenshot please
Thanks for sharing and developer( great rom ) can improve further it glitches a bit with 4-5 apps donno why ! still one of best oreo rom!
soumyaprakash said:
I don't need any one's care. Its all about help some body who need it. I have given all details in the post, so no need to reply as all the details at main post.
But again Thanks you so much , as you care most.
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Respect 2U dude, the angel of the world
wakaranay said:
screenshot please
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Take a look at screenshot
Hmm
I have some question....!
1.How about new version 8.1? Are you test this?
2.What ur firmware you are using.?
3.In shadow kernel how about battery drainning? 4.And when use 4g-lte does this drainning fast? (In other rom 8.1, it drainning like a rocket)
5.when u setting shadow kernel, does u use quad mode,apply volte uv,...?
ValKyre said:
Hmm
I have some question....!
1.How about new version 8.1? Are you test this?
2.What ur firmware you are using.?
3.In shadow kernel how about battery drainning? 4.And when use 4g-lte does this drainning fast? (In other rom 8.1, it drainning like a rocket)
5.when u setting shadow kernel, does u use quad mode,apply volte uv,...?
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1. I didn't test 8.1 , I hope it will be like same 8.0 performance
2-firmware-7.10.12
3-shadow kernel perform very well . Better than agni & radon
4-FOR 4GLTE we should not except same battery backup as miui but it gives better than any custom rom. Please use MIUI Browser
5-I set hex. Mode, with balance profile.
6- Final word- It gives best ram management for my 2Gb KenzoPlease look at attachment
Does mobile network standby stand on top of battery usage (when u use mobile data)?
I have this issue with every Oreo rom :|
soumyaprakash said:
1. I didn't test 8.1 , I hope it will be like same 8.0 performance
2-firmware-7.10.12
3-shadow kernel perform very well . Better than agni & radon
4-FOR 4GLTE we should not except same battery backup as miui but it gives better than any custom rom. Please use MIUI Browser
5-I set hex. Mode, with balance profile.
6- Final word- It gives best ram management for my 2Gb KenzoPlease look at attachment
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Thank u bro...
nguyenlucky said:
Does mobile network standby stand on top of battery usage (when u use mobile data)?
I have this issue with every Oreo rom :|
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Please give the screen shot of issue you faced.
I didn't face any type of issue at status bar
soumyaprakash said:
1. I didn't test 8.1 , I hope it will be like same 8.0 performance
2-firmware-7.10.12
3-shadow kernel perform very well . Better than agni & radon
4-FOR 4GLTE we should not except same battery backup as miui but it gives better than any custom rom. Please use MIUI Browser
5-I set hex. Mode, with balance profile.
6- Final word- It gives best ram management for my 2Gb KenzoPlease look at attachment
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is this after restart? mine gave me appx 200-300mb free after 3-4 normal apps (browser , ytube etc)
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Please give the screen shot of issue you faced.
I didn't face any type of issue at status bar
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nope, I mean ridiculous mobile network standby battery drain, u can check it in battery usage (if u use mobile data a lot)
in my case, it's several percentages higher than screen , so switched to 7.1 ROM
something like this
Manc1234 said:
is this after restart? mine gave me appx 200-300mb free after 3-4 normal apps (browser , ytube etc)
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No friend, it is not after restart. Take a look at my new screen shot. I have 3-4 app in background and I have 730+ mb free ram. 2nd screen shot after cleaning recent app.
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No friend, it is not after restart. Take a look at my new screen shot. I have 3-4 app in background and I have 730+ mb free ram. 2nd screen shot after cleaning recent app.
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okay thanks
soumyaprakash said:
Take a look at screenshot
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which version are you using? CAF?