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To go or not for Galaxy S?

Hi all,
I'm torn between Desire HD and Galaxy S. Sure the SGS is older, no flash, gps bugs etc, but just had my DesireHD in my hand and it's way too big and heavy. Also review are saying poor battery life.
I don;t mind if i dont have the newest model, as SGS fits nicely in my hand, don;t care much about the flash.
Some questions:
1. Have the bugs been sorted for SGS i.e gps, lag etc with updates and custom roms here? I don't mind flashing as i have a TouchHD and i flash it often.
2. Do custom roms make it smooth and nice how it should be and based on peoples reviews here with Fixes many are happy with speed.
I know there's a lot going for SGS2 but don;t think that is coming anytime in next 6 months, which would give me plenty of tiem to accustom my self to Android from Winshite.
Cheers

CEPi said:
Hi all,
I'm torn between Desire HD and Galaxy S. Sure the SGS is older, no flash, gps bugs etc, but just had my DesireHD in my hand and it's way too big and heavy. Also review are saying poor battery life.
I don;t mind if i dont have the newest model, as SGS fits nicely in my hand, don;t care much about the flash.
Some questions:
1. Have the bugs been sorted for SGS i.e gps, lag etc with updates and custom roms here? I don't mind flashing as i have a TouchHD and i flash it often.
2. Do custom roms make it smooth and nice how it should be and based on peoples reviews here with Fixes many are happy with speed.
I know there's a lot going for SGS2 but don;t think that is coming anytime in next 6 months, which would give me plenty of tiem to accustom my self to Android from Winshite.
Cheers
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1/ yes/no its not perfect for gps, lag is fixed with custom stuff
2/as per 1/ once fixed speed and all are pretty good
in a nutshell:
- gps isnt all that good even if its been vastly improved
- phone is very fast once fixed but battery life is slightly lower (should still be much better than the DHD in that area i guess..)

HTC Desire HD has inferior GPU, camera recorder, sound quality, display, etc..
I would recommend to wait a little.. For *an official large scale* Froyo release because the current JP6 (which was official for Scandinavia) suck in terms of performance.
If you browse a lot this can be very annoying. Applied voodoo lag fix => didn't fix stalls (lag) problems (yeah wiped data/cache)
Cons Froyo:
- browser issues: high RAM/CPU consumption. sometimes the phone stalls just having the stock browser opened on background. other big problem is the HIGH memory consumption combined with even less free RAM avaiable in Froyo. Many times the browser got self closed (even when it was active, in foreground!!) and/or applications in background (even the stock launcher)
- performance of stock launcher is not good if you have some amount of apps installed (eg: slide between apps pages, helicopter view, etc.. doesn't matter if you use live wallpers or not)
- laggy swype
- lags when scrolling in call history (I think I've got >= 500 entries)
- cannot say to much about gps, yesterday was the first time I've tested it in car.. and my position was completely not accurate. it may be also the software (igo) which lags a lot on froyo (in eclair it was ok), hardly you can set your destination.. it lags in menus too.
- again, even less ram available
Android issues:
- slow code execution (apps load time)
- high memory consumption
That's because of the internal design of Android... running the apps in a JVM . Why not native apps like WebOS, Maemo?
Those are the main issues I personally found very annoying in Froyo.. If you don't browse, don't write with skype (haven't tested with samsung keyword), don't use/like touch wiz lauchen, then the phone is quite good in terms of speed.
@bilboa1 aren't you experiencing those issues? Swithcing to a FS doesn't fix the bugs in the apps..

I have had my galaxy s for a couple of months and flashed to JP6 when it was out, I used it for a few days and then flashed back to eclair due to the same issues as you mention. Not being able to have anything 'minimized' to the background while browsing due to the amount of memory being used was a no no! Anyway, I have been seriously considering the desire hd myself, but the battery capacity has so far really put me off, I barely get 8 hours of life out of my galaxy on some days, so on a hd, it would be less than that I suspect. I keep looking around xda for posts to convince me not to get a desire hd, its slowly working, but not quite yet.

these are the fixes i applied for froyo which gives a (very) satisfying performance in my eyes:
(alls files can be found in the dev section)
- flash JM8 + 512 PIT
- flash JP6 + 803 PIT
- factory reset
- reboot in recovery
- flash ULF (universal lag fix)
- enable advanced lag fix ext4
- enable all tweaks
- enable BLN (backlight notification)
- enable root
- reboot - choose backup & restore (or not, since its factory, doesnt make a big diff), wait a bit
- copy battery mod for JP6 (version D for me) to /sdcard/
- copy stock android lock screen for JP6 to /sdcard/
- copy galaxy tab browser file to /sdcard/
- adb shell
$ su
# umount -oremount,rw /dev/block/stl9 /system
# cd /system/apps
remove some useless samsung apps to free space
replace the battery graphics
# cp /sdcard/framework-res.apk /system/framework/framwork-res.apk
do the same for lock screen, browser file.. (paths are specified, i don't remember them by heart)
# sync
# reboot
- in browser options, set the plugins to "on demand"
- in account sync options, disable auto sync (keep background data) - this alone doubles the battery life and doesnt make a real diff
- replace touchwizz by your launcher of choice, i personally use Launcher Pro Plus
- install "vignette" if you want higher quality pictures from the camera
about the gps:
- make sure you enable the function that let it use the wireless networks (agps)
- install compass and setup the compass as indicated when you start it, then quit
- enable sensors aiding for the gps, done
- it locks (very) fast
- its pretty accurate now
- it loses all satellites from time to time then relock so u lose a few seconds of tracking (the biggest/only real issue IMO)
enjoy
ps: the difference with the DHD, except hardware differences, is probably that the DHD won't neeed nearly as much handwork to work "properly".....

Thanks bilboa1 for your informative post but unfortunately this does not fix my problems.
I like TouchWiz launcher, it's very practical (used to be TouchPro fan too before ). Actually I find Samsung software implementations more useful per-total than HTC ones (HTC Sense, yes, I've been an HTCSense user in past)
Also, I've read that the galaxy tab browser lib doesn't fix the problem with high memory consumption, so didn't bothered to overwrite the file.
Browser has already plugins on demand. It doesn't make a difference if it's off or on-demand (in my tests with high memory consumption)..
If I disable auto sync how do I get my gmail, twitter, etc automatically? I've accidentally disabled it and didn't get any mail, twitter, etc automatically.
GPS lock is fast.. but not accurate here. Maybe it was the software (iGo)

Depends if you want a phone that just works or do you like tinkering and chance of file curruption every 3 weeks. Sgs schocking battery problems once you install a lag fix. In my experience when using oclf the sgs uses 15% of power per HR at Max of 3hrs usage on 3G. If using voodoo lag fix then power drains at 20-30‰ and about 2hr's at 3G. If I was you I would wait for something better and forget the sgs ever existed. I have heard the epic 4G is a good device with non of the sgs problems but sadly it's a cdma phone. Also HTC seems to release roms more frequently and there's better support for them. Also doesn't the desire HD use 2nd Gen snapdragon? Means clock for clock they (g2 @800MHz is said to be as fast in benchmarks as 1ghz hummingbirds )are faster and also froyo is already optimized for it unlike our poor hummingbird cpus
If I could I would in a second swap my sgs for a HTC desire HD or HTC g2
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I have voodoo lagfix on eclair. My battery drains 1.3% per hour on standby with 3G/data/sync=ON and many widgets that update hourly like weather, stock, facebook, twitter.
Active use with screen on and internet surfing battery drain is about 23% per hour which is kind of normal. My Iphone 3GS/HTC Touch HD also drain around this amount during active use.
So those with huge drain, the problem lies somewhere else (not with lagfix)
Galaxy battery is not bad at all for heavy users. My phone uptime of 20 hours with 3 hours of active use + 1 hr of call+(sync/widgets etc).
Light use should last for 2 days.

Don't do it man, life's worth living!!!
Seriously though, I've tried every bloody fix out there, every last tweak for the last 3 months... And I'm selling this pos as soon as I find a good deal. Granted, sometimes it's fast, but then it crashes... Sometimes the gps works, But then it gets confused... The mic is total ****, but the screen is beautiful, so you have nice colours to look at while it randomly cracks out.
If you don't want to wait, get the dhd and a couple extra batteries. Or, for smaller hands just get a bloody iphone or one of the older desire variants.
This hardware's great, the dhd's is better... And the software works!!! Hear that samsung!? It actually works!!!... Aside from the proximity sensor...
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Thanks a lot guys. Sorry to hear that basic problems are still persisting, even thought great effort has been made by community devs to iron them. I'll hold till next generation of phones come up in Q1 2011.
Cheers and good luck

CEPi said:
Thanks a lot guys. Sorry to hear that basic problems are still persisting, even thought great effort has been made by community devs to iron them. I'll hold till next generation of phones come up in Q1 2011.
Cheers and good luck
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Only phone I'd currently recommend is the iPhone 4. The SGS is still having some issues and doesn't work right out of the box. Guess we'll have to wait for gingerbread in order to get a version of android that just works.

I'm using stock kernel, no rooting, to lagfix, with latest available Firmware
I don't have any "lag" issue,
GPS works pretty good, fast fix, not that much "jerking around" and sharktooth when recording maps.
Camera is pretty much amazing, I can't realy beleive how much "night mode" works!
HD Video recording is pretty much tha bomb!
Works pretty sweet with my BlueTooth headset (S9-HD)
Gaming is amazing, fast and cool graphs!
it runs android, so you're not "controlled" by what the all mighty-all knowing Apple
So, I would definitively buy the same thing!

I don't know what some of these guys are talking about.
1. Have the bugs been sorted for SGS i.e gps, lag etc with updates and custom roms here? I don't mind flashing as i have a TouchHD and i flash it often.
GPS has not been 'perfectly' fixed. A lot of people report different results. It has never worked well for me. Fortunately, on a personal level, I have never become over-dependent on GPS and am generally good with reading maps. I can use the GPS to get a general fix of where I am and use my eyes to figure out where to go.
Aside from GPS however - I can't think of any bugs that haven't been fixed. Almost every custom ROM includes its own lagfix, all of which work perfectly. I use darkyy's ROM and it comes with Voodoo, which is absolutely brilliant.
2. Do custom roms make it smooth and nice how it should be and based on peoples reviews here with Fixes many are happy with speed.
Well, I kinda answered this above. The lagfixes are brilliant and do exactly what Samsung should have done themselves. My phone flies now without even needing a task killer.
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I often say that I would always recommend one out of 3 phones to anyone that asks depending on how technical they are. If they are a casual user that likes the latest hardware and biggest screens - get the DHD. If they are also a casual user that perhaps would prefer a slightly smaller and more compact phone, get the Desire Z. If they are a techie and want the best of everything (minus GPSlol) - get the SGS.
You sound like a techie. Unless you absolutely need GPS, get the SGS.

jp6 deodexed, zipaligned, 327meg kernel, advanced lagfix ext4, all tweaks.....gives me insane performance! applications load up instantly, its just as quick as it can ever get! no crashes no instability
just wished samsung would give us a stock rom which is as good as this!
GPS still sucks....little laggy, and sometimes inaccurate...not totally unusable though. samsung sure screwed up on the hardware, theres no doubt about that

dreamtheater39 said:
jp6 deodexed, zipaligned, 327meg kernel, advanced lagfix ext4, all tweaks.....gives me insane performance! applications load up instantly, its just as quick as it can ever get! no crashes no instability
just wished samsung would give us a stock rom which is as good as this!
GPS still sucks....little laggy, and sometimes inaccurate...not totally unusable though. samsung sure screwed up on the hardware, theres no doubt about that
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So basically SGS doesnt work correctly out of the box.
If I pay about 500euro for a phone, I definitly expect that it works flawless.
I wanted this phone badly, but after I have read all bad comments ill pass until they fix all bugs or maybe ill wait for another better Samsung phone (I love Super AMOLED)

i would go for the dhd...i have a sgs but to be honest its a great phone but samsung doesnt provide the support for their products...2.2 and a gps fix were supposed to come in september..then october...now november...the phone is only as good as the software on it, and while the sgs is a beast in terms of processor speed and screen, it lacks the support from samsung...it does lag, gps doesnt work at all for me....

DSF said:
Browser has already plugins on demand. It doesn't make a difference if it's off or on-demand (in my tests with high memory consumption)..
If I disable auto sync how do I get my gmail, twitter, etc automatically? I've accidentally disabled it and didn't get any mail, twitter, etc automatically.
GPS lock is fast.. but not accurate here. Maybe it was the software (iGo)
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I don't really notice a very high memory usage on the browser, maybe i don't browse enough i don't know
when you disable auto sync you still get email automatically (and instantly, via push), for the rest it depends on the apps settings, in my case they all still go get stuff every couple of hours
what sync disable however is contact synchronization, account settings, calendars, and things like that (= things i rly dont need sync more than once a week or smth personally, but i can imagine some ppl need their calendar sync to the minute)
in general battery issues are due to bad software installed on the phone, stock sgs battery life is pretty much incredible in my eyes (the lag bug is also pretty much incredible p)
ps: if i were to buy sgs again i'd do it no doubt. i can understand the less technically inclined going dhd. not without its flaws but no such thing as "lag bug" crap to fix hehe

raf2k said:
So basically SGS doesnt work correctly out of the box.
If I pay about 500euro for a phone, I definitly expect that it works flawless.
I wanted this phone badly, but after I have read all bad comments ill pass until they fix all bugs or maybe ill wait for another better Samsung phone (I love Super AMOLED)
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For some reason i thought the phone id cheaper than that.
Anyway the sgs is perfect. The gps is not as bas as people say. U can still get a lock on and go whatever u want. But honestly. I never tried the gps more thsn once to check if its working and its fine for me.
However. For games. For screen. Nothing and i mean nothing csn come close to sgs. Best screen hands down. Best gpu. All u need to is add voodoo or whatever ur like and ur ready to go. I love the dhd but i am a movie. Gamesband muic junkie. For that the sgs is perfect. Dont let the 4.3 screen fool u on dhd. Its almost the samwle quality as hd2 "there are videos in youtube as a proof even "
I say get what u want but for me. I love the phone for its performance and screen. And galaxy s is perfect
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Speedup Tweak on CM10.1 emmc

Hi Guys,
I'm new to this forum. Recently bought a refurb HD+ for ~90 bucks on Rakuten. Played around with stock for 10 mins and then decided to get rid of it because it was irritatingly slow. Got CM10.1 on the emmc quick and easy, wayy better than stock B&N ROM (great job devs!)
Anyway, to get to the point, CM10.1 is still somewhat laggy in the homescreen, transitions and in app scrolling. Then I flashed the following zip made by the folks out in the GSII forums
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2360985
There are two versions of the mod available, I flashed the CM version.
Everything is so much faster now! Scrolling, animations all feel zippier. Maybe you guys can check it out and perhaps include it in a future ROM if you think it has anything more than a placebo effect.
PS: In case you guys don't like the mod there's an uninstall package in the linked thread on page 16.

will it drain more battery ??

williamlaw said:
will it drain more battery ??
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I'm still testing it out, but it doesn't seem to be draining much more battery than usual. I've also put this mod on my one x and atrix HD phones, the mod actually seemed to improve battery life on both devices.

lolkat123 said:
I'm still testing it out, but it doesn't seem to be draining much more battery than usual. I've also put this mod on my one x and atrix HD phones, the mod actually seemed to improve battery life on both devices.
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ok, thanks !!
let's try on my nook hd+, but seems not support 4.3, cos network broken after flashed on my n7

Wow, sounds great! I'm a little bit scared of flashing it. Can you guys update on your battery life and stability after applying this? I'll keep an eye out on this thread. Also, how would one remove it if it doesn't work out so well? This sounds very promising.

I turn animations off, so not an issue for me. The device still lags anyway, if you put one app or two hundred. Same lag issues. 1080p, 723mb non allocated ram and the 4470 do not mix well. Maybe it would have done better with 1GB more ram.

Thanks - just tried it against several synthetic benchmark tools and games.
Improvements vary between apps, but its definitely there - no placebo effect here.
Bench tools tried:
- Antutu gained 300 of 9600, not much but it's there.
- Quadrant gained 10%
- Basemark gained slightly more.
- Epic Citadel now gets 43fps at default high performance setting.
Sprite/blitz based games seem to improve a lot for my case;
- Vincent is one (not really a game, but its a fun stress-reliever, useful after reading garbage comments on forums, LOL)
- Shopping Cart Hero is another one. Very smooth, no more lag.
- Candy Crush, a big smoother, but not as much as the other games I tried.
Less noticeable effect on GPU-exclusive games like RR3, Crazy Taxi or MC4
No comment on UI improvement since I disabled all animations and only has 1 home screen.

I just flashed this, and seems to work well so far.
will update again though.
Thank you!!

I flashed the CM version and now my HD+ keeps booting into CWM when I press reboot system. And yes I am using verygreen's emmc ROM. I wonder what I'm doing wrong?
EDIT: Nevermind, flashed it again and it works, gonna take it for a spin now ... wow working very well so far (I noticed as soon as I swiped through my homescreens, UI has a lot less lag now), thanks for the heads up OP!

What is the point of this if you can simply turn off animations in dev mode? Is the lag when activating apps gone? Seems a bunch of settings not indigenous to the hardware could create issues as well as perhaps help some.

rushless said:
What is the point of this if you can simply turn off animations in dev mode? Is the lag when activating apps gone? Seems a bunch of settings not indigenous to the hardware could create issues as well as perhaps help some.
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I always have all animations off on all my devices. (Main reason why I left iOS)
Still getting noticeable improvements with pure perf installed.

How is the battery drain in sleep mode?

looks good so far
I've not had much time with it after flashing this zip, but so far it has improved responsiveness when going quickly from app to app. It took a while after reboot for things to settle in (was a bit jerky at first), but it now wakes up faster and is less laggy throughout the UI. I usually get 3-4hrs per 1% drain when in sleep (wifi-on), so I should be able to tell right away if this is better or worse.

Anyone try this with Carbon?
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jpisini said:
Anyone try this with Carbon?
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I did, worked well but had a few FCs on the tweaked Carbon edition.

How to increase performance and battery life on your Tab 3 (ideal for beginners)

Hi guys. I have been on android since 2011 and ever since I have been modding my phones and devices. One thing I found out is that when you pack your device full of goodies and games and apps, your device can start to get laggy and the battery drains faster.
As for the Galaxy tab 3 I saw that it gets quite laggy when some apps are installed....
Here's what I do to manage and Maintain my tab:
Battery life:
1.) The number 1 thing I do when I unbox and setup my device is install Battery Doctor.
-This app I found charges your device in a certain way to prolong battery survival and it does it in 3 steps.
-This app also has modes that you can turn on that you can customise to a setting of your desire.... it comes with 3 as standard. Extreme mode and super saving mode helps a lot when your not using it for a while.
- Lastly it has optional widgets that you can put on home screen that optimises the battery, cleans apps/cache.
2.) Another one that you may find as useful is MobileCare. This app has a battery saving mode, App manager and Task killer if your are looking at JUST battery. This app offers a much simpler way to reduce battery drainage from the click of a switch power saver mode is enabled.
Performance Enhancing Apps
So to have optimum performance without rooting your device or overclocking here is what I use:
1.) MobileCare - As well as battery saving there a few other tweaks it has that I didn't mention above....
-Game Speeder- this basically give you a choice of the app you wish to run and it will basically optimise the app/game for you so it runs as smooth as possible.
- It also has a built in Antivirus/Anti-theft feature which also speeds and improves performance if there are viruses or ads slowing you down.
- Task killer- this app basically kills all apps and processes so the ram is nice and fresh.....1gb RAM can get packed sometimes.
2.) Memory Booster- This apps really helps as well.
-It features a Quick boost mode when you just want free space and instant performance.
-It also shows proof of it working in the form of a monitor and a diagram showing ram before and after.
-This app also features its own task killer and a boost log.
-This app is really useful because it comes with some really nice small compact widgets that you can do the quick boost function and task killer from a simple tap on the home screen instead of actually opening the APP itself.
Please feel free to add on to this list....I wrote these because they were the most efficient in terms of being able to use them seemlessly.
This thread is ideal for those who havn't got root access and want to maintain their tab 3's.
I will upload links Shortly.
edit-----I know the Task Killer mentioned dosnt kill ALL the apps and processes. However the point of that app is to close all of apps and processes that wouldnt harm your system if they were closed, so you have you normal open apps that need to be closed and then some background apps and clears cache etc.

Not bad, but rooting is so easy and you get much more control.

dtaylorr said:
Not bad, but rooting is so easy and you get much more control.
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Yup.. But even after rooting... BAttery doctor really improves battery!

I use juice defender ultimate and du battery saver pro. Best battery saving app. The best contributor is lux auto brightness( paid version). Brightness is very crucial for saving battery. Ex. At night our tabs tend to be more brighter. You can even set the brightness for any light level your in.
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trazfer said:
I use juice defender ultimate and du battery saver pro. Best battery saving app. The best contributor is lux auto brightness( paid version). Brightness is very crucial for saving battery. Ex. At night our tabs tend to be more brighter. You can even set the brightness for any light level your in.
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LOL I totally forgot about that one. I liked that app for its quick features... most of it was paid though..

Task killers are useless and in fact do more harm than good. Android is quite good at managing its own memory and doesn't need the help. Task killers tend to stay in memory which defeats the purpose, and 99.9% of the time the tasks they kill automatically restart anyway. They are not at all necessary and should be avoided.

BretonGirl said:
Task killers are useless and in fact do more harm than good. Android is quite good at managing its own memory and doesn't need the help. Task killers tend to stay in memory which defeats the purpose, and 99.9% of the time the tasks they kill automatically restart anyway. They are not at all necessary and should be avoided.
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I do and also dont agree having task killer why? They dont kill every single app u wanted and thus free only 5MBs of ram. Most apps like Advance Task Killer do the job well but the app itself takes the memory which makes it a disadvantage having a third party app task killer but then they do free up memory very well. Until now I havent found an app which has very less ram consumption and frees up memory very well.
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Simple, already built in
Ironman38102 said:
I do and also dont agree having task killer why? They dont kill every single app u wanted and thus free only 5MBs of ram. Most apps like Advance Task Killer do the job well but the app itself takes the memory which makes it a disadvantage having a third party app task killer but then they do free up memory very well.Until now I havent found an app which has very less ram consumption and frees up memory very well.
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They already have a task killer/ram manager already built in.
Simply holding down the middle button brings up all your resent apps with the option to kill all on the right, and on the left an extension which shows among others a RAM Manager.

dtaylorr said:
They already have a task killer/ram manager already built in.
Simply holding down the middle button brings up all your resent apps with the option to kill all on the right, and on the left an extension which shows among others a RAM Manager.
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I do know that.
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so laggy
Hi guys, I just got the tab 3 8.0, and I like most part of it but the performance is seriously bad..I have restored ask my apps from Google server and while running apps and switching between them, I can't take all the lags it has. I just got it today so I can return it if I want but I'm wondering if rooting this device actually gains much performance improvements. I used to have a galaxy s2x, which has a similar if not worse spec than this tablet, and I don't know if I was running rooted version of touchwiz or not but the performance was pretty good. This tablet is much worse. A simple reboot fixes the lag but after a few hours, as I use it, I notice the stutters while using it. I just had a serious lag in Google plus app, it was stuttering so bad, but it came back to smooth after 5 seconds.
So installing the custom Rom available for tab 3 8.0 improve the performance significantly? I know there are not many ROMs for tab 3 8.0, so any user of this device just rooted the tab and tweak it themselves to gain performance improvements? Not just little bit, but a lot.
Thanks!

sw6lee said:
Hi guys, I just got the tab 3 8.0, and I like most part of it but the performance is seriously bad..I have restored ask my apps from Google server and while running apps and switching between them, I can't take all the lags it has. I just got it today so I can return it if I want but I'm wondering if rooting this device actually gains much performance improvements. I used to have a galaxy s2x, which has a similar if not worse spec than this tablet, and I don't know if I was running rooted version of touchwiz or not but the performance was pretty good. This tablet is much worse. A simple reboot fixes the lag but after a few hours, as I use it, I notice the stutters while using it. I just had a serious lag in Google plus app, it was stuttering so bad, but it came back to smooth after 5 seconds.
So installing the custom Rom available for tab 3 8.0 improve the performance significantly? I know there are not many ROMs for tab 3 8.0, so any user of this device just rooted the tab and tweak it themselves to gain performance improvements? Not just little bit, but a lot.
Thanks!
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Mine is not laggy in the slightest, in fact it's quite zippy. Instead of blaming the device, look at your apps. It's possible one of them is the culprit. If a reboot helps, it sounds like you have too much stuff loaded in memory. How much free space do you have?

I know what you guys mean...... I know they dont kill all the apps....BUT it still makes a difference.....even if it kills off 200mb of cache and apps.... It makes a dramatic improvement to performance if you are running on a a stock rom! Not all of the task killers work as effectively as eachother I admit but some apps are really good for a quick time boost

I'll chime in. I always read that task killers are useless, because Android inherently does a good job of managing memory or what not. I personally dislike Android's autokiller; the more RAM you have the more it will work non-obtrusively, but it generally has a tendency to kill apps I don't want killed, when they don't need to be killed, and it does nothing at times to kill apps I don't want running.
What I do is I use Minfree Manager (I run it manually on boot, I'm sure there's a file somewhere you can edit which makes the app unnecessary)) to tweak the auto-killer, such that it doesn't kill apps except when absolutely necessary. My previous phablet, I used ZDBox to kill non-whitelisted apps every time I turned the screen on (and I manually killed whitelisted apps when applicable). This worked well and I only have good things to say about ZDBox, the older version was very lightweight and easy to use. Unfortunately ZDBox's task killer is incompatible with the Galaxy Tab 3 (at least my T211).
Thus far with the T211 I have been using Super Manager to kill non-whitelisted apps (like Google Play Services, etc) on standby. I am not sure whether it kills them, it only claims to "clean memory." Yes, they all start back up and memory usage increases quickly once again relative to the blacklisted apps, but this still prevents these apps from running non-stop and accumulating RAM usage, and even if that is meaningless, it at least serves a purpose by flashing a note in my status bar every time I toggle my screen on and off, regarding how much free RAM I have and how many apps are running. Yes the service runs in memory constantly, but that can't possibly be causing a problem because everything is fairly speedy.

BretonGirl said:
Mine is not laggy in the slightest, in fact it's quite zippy. Instead of blaming the device, look at your apps. It's possible one of them is the culprit. If a reboot helps, it sounds like you have too much stuff loaded in memory. How much free space do you have?
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I know what that guy means though..... I was running stock rom with stock kernal on my 7.0 and it was fine until I started downloading apps for it....It got to a point where no matter how much I overclock to performance it would still lagg even when i closed all my apps.
However I downloaded a custom rom with all these tweaks and now im running those same apps I had before running as sweat as a nut without even overclocking.:silly:

Hi mate, you are using my ROM, right?
I just quote, so other users get to know RocketTab as well...
And I'm still working on further improvements...

My Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 runs great from stock, but since rooting and using arshull's kernel (latest release) with the addition of trickster mod app, I am getting super snappy performance! With the ability to tweak cpu and gpu settings and build.prop tweaks I couldn't be happier. Battery life is good and I am a heavy user and lag is nonexistent in games, even some of the heavy duty ones.
BtW, a big thanks to arshull for his development with the GTab 3 8.0, and this forum and all its contributors! :good:

sw6lee said:
Hi guys, I just got the tab 3 8.0, and I like most part of it but the performance is seriously bad..I have restored ask my apps from Google server and while running apps and switching between them, I can't take all the lags it has. I just got it today so I can return it if I want but I'm wondering if rooting this device actually gains much performance improvements. I used to have a galaxy s2x, which has a similar if not worse spec than this tablet, and I don't know if I was running rooted version of touchwiz or not but the performance was pretty good. This tablet is much worse. A simple reboot fixes the lag but after a few hours, as I use it, I notice the stutters while using it. I just had a serious lag in Google plus app, it was stuttering so bad, but it came back to smooth after 5 seconds.
So installing the custom Rom available for tab 3 8.0 improve the performance significantly? I know there are not many ROMs for tab 3 8.0, so any user of this device just rooted the tab and tweak it themselves to gain performance improvements? Not just little bit, but a lot.
Thanks!
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BretonGirl said:
Mine is not laggy in the slightest, in fact it's quite zippy. Instead of blaming the device, look at your apps. It's possible one of them is the culprit. If a reboot helps, it sounds like you have too much stuff loaded in memory. How much free space do you have?
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well keep in mind the 8.0 has an extra .50 of RAM. So that does effect the performance. I'm having the same issue. I have the S3 with 1.5 of RAM and never have any issues with lagging or apps running out of memory. Im wondering the same thing as the OP if a root would benefit this tablet in the way of performance.
If anyone has a 10.1 that they have rooted could you post any results or performance improvements that you saw from it?

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well keep in mind the 8.0 has an extra .50 of RAM. So that does effect the performance. I'm having the same issue. I have the S3 with 1.5 of RAM and never have any issues with lagging or apps running out of memory. Im wondering the same thing as the OP if a root would benefit this tablet in the way of performance.
If anyone has a 10.1 that they have rooted could you post any results or performance improvements that you saw from it?
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Same here really curious to know the results

Please give us the link of the specific app "from google play" and also please don't give ad.fly or something that makes us go to some advertisement first before going to the application place, Thanks.

Thanks for the guides.
Thanks . I will really help beginner to have keep an eye on their phone

S4 performance problems

My AT&T S4 is having performance problems. I have some lag/delay switching apps, or going to/from home screen, etc. But the worst is a game like Minecraft. It pauses/freezes/stutters every couple seconds when I move around. Minecraft doesn't have these problems on my Nexus7(2012)
How can I figure out what is causing this? I have searched for a CPU usage app but couldn't find anything. I read that looking at battery usage would give an idea what is using the CPU, here is what it shows:
Android System 43%
Screen 18%
Zooper Widget Pro 7%
Android OS 6%
Are these normal usage?
My storage space is starting to get low. Out of 16GB I have 1.17GB free. Can this reallistically cause problems?
I think I see RAM usage under running applications I see these big ones: NILS 120MB, Android L Keyboard 31MB, Tasker 19MB, WidgetLocker 55MB, Zooper 31MB. I'll try disabling some of these, but these are some of my favorite utilities

itesla said:
My AT&T S4 is having performance problems. I have some lag/delay switching apps, or going to/from home screen, etc. But the worst is a game like Minecraft. It pauses/freezes/stutters every couple seconds when I move around. Minecraft doesn't have these problems on my Nexus7(2012)
How can I figure out what is causing this? I have searched for a CPU usage app but couldn't find anything. I read that looking at battery usage would give an idea what is using the CPU, here is what it shows:
Android System 43%
Screen 18%
Zooper Widget Pro 7%
Android OS 6%
Are these normal usage?
My storage space is starting to get low. Out of 16GB I have 1.17GB free. Can this reallistically cause problems?
I think I see RAM usage under running applications I see these big ones: NILS 120MB, Android L Keyboard 31MB, Tasker 19MB, WidgetLocker 55MB, Zooper 31MB. I'll try disabling some of these, but these are some of my favorite utilities
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There are plenty of applications for speeding up your Android, such as Du Speed Booster and 360 Clean Droid. There are also some Xposed modules such as Greenify for doing the same thing (but better IMO). I also strongly suggest performing a backup and installing a custom ROM. I, for one, have noticed that the GPE ROMs are blazingly fast on my S4. In fact, in the next hour, I'll be releasing the 'Google Experience' ROM- it's based on Joe-Tech's GPE 4.4.4 for Safestrap and it's blazing fast on my phone.
However, I am not responsible for any damages your phone undergoes during the process of doing anything said, recommended, or even remotely implied in this post.
Best of luck! :good::good::good:

Thanks for the feedback. I don't have much time to spend with custom ROMs though. I had CM9/11 on my old Nook and tried to get something running on an older HTC phone a couple months ago. Just don't have the time or patience to go through all that. I removed NILS and that seems to have helped, still doesn't seem quite as smooth as it should. I'll check out Du Speed Booster and 360 Clean Droid. Thanks!

After looking at 360 Clean Droid and comments, decided against that one. Du speed looks cool Also found Clean Master Phone Boost has 100million downloads (really?) and 4.7 rating. I just wonder about apps like these, they almost seem like scams. I was really hoping for more of some do's and dont's of how to disable some unnecessary Samsung/AT&T garbage that might be wasting throughput/RAM.

Oh, sorry. I don't know how to remove bloatware while on Android- I just use disxdas kitchen when making ROMs, so I just delete the apps in their folder and repackage it. I don't know about removing them while on Android though. But I know for a fact that if you Google around you'll find some guides for removing bloatware off of the S4.
Also, 360 is my personal favorite- but don't fall for their antivirus trap. All Android antivirus are usually in general scams. They're known to make fake alerts so you can buy premium features.
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Is it good in terms of gaming?

I have some problems, the first is when trying to install Magisk and Safety net fix, I decided to skip these steps, but after installing everything properly and restarting, it restarts itself and I go to the boot loader menu

It is a good custom ROM but ram management is very poor, it took half of the RAM, if I remembered correctly my remaining RAM was at 500mb+
In result, the phone is very laggy especially when you changed something on the homescreen. Please keep improving the stability and also RAM management because I really like the overall design of it too!
Also the model of the phone is I think Mi 9T
When you pull down the notification shade, its vey laggy too considering the phone is just ok in terms of its processor

Mark✓ said:
It is a good custom ROM but ram management is very poor, it took half of the RAM, if I remembered correctly my remaining RAM was at 500mb+
In result, the phone is very laggy especially when you changed something on the homescreen. Please keep improving the stability and also RAM management because I really like the overall design of it too!
Also the model of the phone is I think Mi 9T
When you pull down the notification shade, its vey laggy too considering the phone is just ok in terms of its processor
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Remember it's a port
Don't consider high performance or best RAM management

Maybe something's will improve in next update or maybe not

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Can anyone provide the download link......... original links broken