So, we all know Motorola will eventually (aka never) release Oreo for the G5 Plus.
I am way too anxious so I am going to flash a Custom ROM until they deliver it. However I am quite afraid about something.
I plan to use Lineage 15.1 until Oreo comes out for the G5 Plus. However, I am kind of afraid that I may screw things up when the OTA comes out.
I have recently hard bricked my Moto G 2014 because of OTAs and Bootloader.
So, Oreo releases...
Will it be fine to install the OTA (through normal System Update check) having the latest Stock ROM Firmware for my region installed? (I would erase Lineage 15 and use fastboot to flash Stock again)
Or will I instead need to wait for someone to post the system images and flash it through fastboot instead? (I assume I would need to install the OTA through normal methods because of bootloader changes but still...)
I just don't want this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/help/moto-g5-plus-hard-bricked-t3694119
To happen.
You won't get system updates when you are on a custom ROM like Lineage OS or any other custom ROM. The only system updates you might get are ROM updates if the ROM maintainer has that feature built in.
If official Oreo comes out and you are on the correct stock firmware for your model and region, everything should work fine.
Before flashing custom roms you should backup your efs partition using twrp else you could lose your imei(recoverable) / volte(not recoverable till now) when flashing fastboot firmwire.
You need to flash fastboot firmwire to receive oreo ota.
If you want to avoid hard bricking, then you must flash the same stock ROM or newer onto your device when you revert back to stock firmware.
I imagine your Moto G 2014 got bricked when you took an OTA update? That could have occurred if firmware older than what was present on your device was flashed (bootloaders cannot be downgraded), and like in that thread you linked, attempting to use OTA updates would corrupt your newer bootloader with the older OTA patches, leading to a hard brick.
As mentioned above, if you revert to the correct build for your region and matching your current build at least, you should be okay to receive OTA updates (should also include up to Oreo). Alternatively, you could wait for the Oreo fastboot ROM to be safe, or the Oreo TWRP flashable for a near stock ROM experience (since TWRP flashables shouldn't care about your bootloader or GPT partitions, do it'd be difficult to brick your device. However, TWRP flashable stock ROMs aren't OTA compatible).
Before you unlock your bootloader and flash TWRP/custom ROMs, make a note of your current build version and see if you can find a stock ROM leaked of that build, so you can be sure that you're reverting to the right build for your device.
Just do not flash older stock Motorola firmware to your device or if you do, do not use OTA updates.
Yeah, I did some research and now I understand what happened. Thanks for the comments.
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Single sim 2gb ram + 16gb rom
Hello folks I've been searching for a nougat update for XT-1644, but unable to find over the xda if anyone of you havs upgraded your xt-1644 then kindly tell the procedure here, Thanks.
Here is my About Phone Info.
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You mean a method like this? https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/xt1644-stock-marshmallow-to-nougat-t3540022
If you download the 93-14 Nougat firmware, that's the latest version. Nougat OTAs currently only exist for the 93-11 firmware.
echo92 said:
You mean a method like this? https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/xt1644-stock-marshmallow-to-nougat-t3540022
If you download the 93-14 Nougat firmware, that's the latest version. Nougat OTAs currently only exist for the 93-11 firmware.
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Sorry didn't find that,
One more question i have unlocked my bootloader will it work? I mean will i be able to flash this 7.0?
waseemmayaa said:
Sorry didn't find that,
One more question i have unlocked my bootloader will it work? I mean will i be able to flash this 7.0?
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Yes, your bootloader status won't matter - as long as that's all you've done. As I understand it, the update via stock recovery only cares if the rest of your phone has been modified - if you've still got a stock bootloader, stock recovery and stock kernel (from MM, provided it's up to date), it should work and you should be eligible for future OTAs.
The only hurdle I could see happening is that the build of Marshmallow expected by the OTA and your phone's current OS build do not match, in which case it won't install. Thus, you may have to consult one of the fastboot Nougat 93-11 or 93-14 threads to install, which you'll have to do if your system is modified past the bootloader.
Here are a couple for your perusal:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1640-43-athene-npj25-93-t3549369
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/android-7-0-install-nougat-official-t3531612
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Yes, your bootloader status won't matter - as long as that's all you've done. As I understand it, the update via stock recovery only cares if the rest of your phone has been modified - if you've still got a stock bootloader, stock recovery and stock kernel (from MM, provided it's up to date), it should work and you should be eligible for future OTAs.
The only hurdle I could see happening is that the build of Marshmallow expected by the OTA and your phone's current OS build do not match, in which case it won't install. Thus, you may have to consult one of the fastboot Nougat 93-11 or 93-14 threads to install, which you'll have to do if your system is modified past the bootloader.
Here are a couple for your perusal:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/moto-g4-plus-xt1640-43-athene-npj25-93-t3549369
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/android-7-0-install-nougat-official-t3531612
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Thanks for the brief info, it means i have to flash it via fastboot and if that works fine then I'll be able to get OTA, but for your info, I've unlocked bootloader and installed Official TWRP but if i flash any of the firmware (given above) will i face bootloop kinda stuffs? I am scared if something goes wrong then i will even not able to restore nandroid backup. Hope you gotta help me.
Thanks.
waseemmayaa said:
Thanks for the brief info, it means i have to flash it via fastboot and if that works fine then I'll be able to get OTA, but for your info, I've unlocked bootloader and installed Official TWRP but if i flash any of the firmware (given above) will i face bootloop kinda stuffs? I am scared if something goes wrong then i will even not able to restore nandroid backup. Hope you gotta help me.
Thanks.
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I see you've received a response in the other thread regarding if XT1644 will accept the update; given you've flashed TWRP, if you wish to be very safe, I would suggest re-installing your Marshmallow ROM so you have a stock install before proceeding to Nougat. There's nothing stopping you from directly flashing Nougat, and the fastboot method for either Nougat build may correctly overwrite the relevant files, the only way is to try the procedure. Don't use the TWRP backup images of Nougat - they don't contain updates to your baseband modem and other core parts of your device - they are only meant to be used once your entire phone is updated to Nougat.
If you wish to restore back to stock MM before flashing Nougat, here's links to stock firmware for XT1644: https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/xt1644-firmware-t3454980
But either way, read all the instructions first, ensure you've got all the firmware and tools you need installed/downloaded, your phone has at least 50 % battery and plenty of time, and you should be okay.
Hello, the other day I accidentally wiped the system when using TWRP. So i found a stock rom but unfortunately it was this one https://forum.xda-developers.com/general/rooting-roms/real-official-stock-rom-xt1625-xt1642-t3575895 which is a 6.1.1 rom. Now my problem is that no updates have come through for android 7.
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Jack
What device do you have? It looks like you downloaded the MPJ24.139-64/65 build from the Motorola website and might have meant there's a mismatch between the expected build for your software channel and the build on your device. That would mean then Nougat wouldn't update.
If you desire Nougat and are willing to update to Nougat via fastboot, you could flash the March 2017 fastboot ROM (NPJS25.93-14-4). You may choose not to re-lock the bootloader if you desire flashing TWRP or a custom ROM. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/stock-rom-npjs25-93-14-4-march-1-t3608138
Since I do not know what stock ROM you had previously on your device, I would exercise caution and ensure your data is backed up and off your device before attempting to flash the stock ROM. Though it's a stock ROM and fastbooting should be a safe option to upgrade with, it's still a flash affecting your system. Be careful.
echo92 said:
What device do you have? It looks like you downloaded the MPJ24.139-64/65 build from the Motorola website and might have meant there's a mismatch between the expected build for your software channel and the build on your device. That would mean then Nougat wouldn't update.
If you desire Nougat and are willing to update to Nougat via fastboot, you could flash the March 2017 fastboot ROM (NPJS25.93-14-4). You may choose not to re-lock the bootloader if you desire flashing TWRP or a custom ROM. https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/how-to/stock-rom-npjs25-93-14-4-march-1-t3608138
Since I do not know what stock ROM you had previously on your device, I would exercise caution and ensure your data is backed up and off your device before attempting to flash the stock ROM. Though it's a stock ROM and fastbooting should be a safe option to upgrade with, it's still a flash affecting your system. Be careful.
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Hello, thanks for your reply. My device is the XT1642. I am surprised I managed to wipe the system. I never normally am this stupid when it comes to messing with flashes and wiping data.
Hello!
I've the Indian variant of the Moto G5 Plus (XT1686), software channel: Retin. I have unlocked the device and flashed a custom ROM. I want to return to stock now but I have a few questions.
1) Where can I get the latest factory image for my XT1686?
2) Which one should I flash on my device amongst AMZ, RETLA & RETAIL?
3) I was on the November security patch before I unlocked and rooted. Should I flash stock, will my device continue receiving ota updates that are released for India?
4) If I flash the firmware that you guys will link me to here, will it hard brick my device when I try for ota update in the future? I read somewhere about mismatch in the partition table will lead to 9008/ some error and device won't go in bootloader mode and that you'll need blankfiles to revive your device and stuff.
Please tell me what to do to return to my complete stock image and to continue receiving ota updates safely on my XT1686, RETIN Software Channel?
1) To the best of my knowledge, this NPN25.137-92, Nov 2017 stock Motorola firmware, is the latest for retIN (retail India) devices, amongst other regions. https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/moto-g5-plus-patch-november-npn25-137-92-t3718976 It's been received by OTA to users, indicating it's been formally deployed in India and other regions too. Please verify this before flashing
Flash using the flashing instructions provided in this post: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/how-to/solution-to-flash-stock-romfactory-t3691396 but using the above NPN25.137-92 ROM - the flashing instructions should apply to this ROM.
2)As you're on retail India, you want retail stock ROMs. AMZ are only for Amazon Prime devices (bootloader locked to Amazon, adverts on the lockscreen) and whilst you could flash retla (retail Latin America), it may cause problems for your device later down the line.
3)Provided you flash the correct stock firmware for your region, you should continue to receive OTA updates.
4)As this should be the same firmware as you had previously, you should not hard brick when receiving OTA updates in the future. Users appeared to commonly hard brick when they attempted to flash stock Motorola firmware older than the stock firmware they had (custom ROMs don't appear to matter here), then attempted to use OTA updates. You cannot downgrade bootloaders, thus you have a mismatched bootloader and system - your new bootloader and your downgraded system - so using an OTA update would flash older bootloader files. As OTA updates do not have the same checks as fastboot for bootloaders, that would corrupt your newer bootloader and hard brick your device. The OTA updates don't appear designed to consider downgraded devices, i.e. newer bootloaders but older stock systems, hence why Motorola likely warns you that whatever happens when unlocking the bootloader is the user's responsibility. If you were in that situation, then flashing fastboot ROMs would be the safest way to update.
However, as you're being conscientious enough to flash the same or latest firmware, then this should not occur. To summarise, hard bricks only appear to occur when downgrading/cross flashing stock firmware and then taking OTA updates when you previously had newer/different stock firmware on your device.
If you want to be truly sure this is the right firmware to revert back to stock to, then I would like to see your getvar info before proceeding:
1)Boot your device to the bootloader, connect to your computer via USB.
2)In the ADB terminal, type 'fastboot getvar all' without quotes and press Enter.
3)Copy the output to a post here. This output contains device variables including what the last stock firmware was on your device, which will be helpful in verifying the correct firmware for you. You may wish to remove IMEI from the output before posting.
Guys i unlocked the bootloader of NPN 25.137-92 indian retin variant with nov 1 patch. I unlocked the bootloader and rooted the phone with SU, only problem is that cam stops working. Then i installed Elemental X kernel 2.02 as a workround to get the cam working which went ok . But i want to go back to the stock kernel, i dont want to flash whole rom . Is their a way i get info or download link for the stock kernel, please reply. Is it possible that i can just flash the kernel.
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Guys i unlocked the bootloader of NPN 25.137-92 indian retin variant with nov 1 patch. I unlocked the bootloader and rooted the phone with SU, only problem is that cam stops working. Then i installed Elemental X kernel 2.02 as a workround to get the cam working which went ok . But i want to go back to the stock kernel, i dont want to flash whole rom . Is their a way i get info or download link for the stock kernel, please reply. Is it possible that i can just flash the kernel.
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Answered on your post, please check
Will i recive OTA update if i unlock the bootloader?
Androidtroll said:
Will i recive OTA update if i unlock the bootloader?
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Yes. Just unlocking the bootloader still allows everything to work normally, though you can't install otas if you mounted or modified /system and /oem partitions, or have twrp recovery.
Otherwise your phone should still function as if it weren't unlocked.
In addition to the above reply - if you do modify your system and want to flash back to stock firmware, please check if you can download the correct firmware for your device. I see from your history you have a retEU device, so the latest series of firmwares would be the NPNS25.137-93 series (with NPNS25.137-93-10 being the April 2018 security patch). I'd suggest checking to see if there is a stock ROM matching your current build before you unlock the bootloader (either at https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/RETAIL/ or https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/Moto G5 Plus/Stock/ or https://androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=171014 ) though it seems the latest firmware that's been leaked is NPNS25.137-93-4 (the Jan 2018 security patch build). Just as a headsup, firmware.center has a cryptominer that could keep your CPU at 100 % if you have their page open.
If you download and flash the NPNS25.137-92-10 firmware, which is the April 2018 security patch for Brazil/India devices, you may be able to re-lock your bootloader and get back to full stock, but you may not be able to receive OTA updates (as the NPNS25.137-92 series of updates do not appear to be deployed to the retEU channel), so be careful which firmware you flash.
You can still unlock your bootloader without having the latest firmware to hand, but until the firmware matching your stock firmware before you unlocked or newer is available, you may not be able to re-lock your device. You may be able to flash older stock firmware for EU devices, but please do not use OTA updates if you flash older stock firmware, else you may hard brick your device.
Good luck whichever way you decide.
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Yes. Just unlocking the bootloader still allows everything to work normally, though you can't install otas if you mounted or modified /system and /oem partitions, or have twrp recovery.
Otherwise, your phone should still function as if it weren't unlocked.
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Yes the Same thing Happened
I had TWRP recovery and I installed the Security Patch
my Phone Stuck at TWRP
but it has One solution
First, take the data backup of all in twrp at your sd card
now install any custom Rom
Reboot your device and check the rom is working or not
do reboot and go back to your Twrp and Restore the backup
I tested it and It worked perfectly
echo92 said:
In addition to the above reply - if you do modify your system and want to flash back to stock firmware, please check if you can download the correct firmware for your device. I see from your history you have a retEU device, so the latest series of firmwares would be the NPNS25.137-93 series (with NPNS25.137-93-10 being the April 2018 security patch). I'd suggest checking to see if there is a stock ROM matching your current build before you unlock the bootloader (either at https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/potter/official/RETAIL/ or https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/Moto G5 Plus/Stock/ or https://androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=171014 ) though it seems the latest firmware that's been leaked is NPNS25.137-93-4 (the Jan 2018 security patch build). Just as a headsup, firmware.center has a cryptominer that could keep your CPU at 100 % if you have their page open.
If you download and flash the NPNS25.137-92-10 firmware, which is the April 2018 security patch for Brazil/India devices, you may be able to re-lock your bootloader and get back to full stock, but you may not be able to receive OTA updates (as the NPNS25.137-92 series of updates do not appear to be deployed to the retEU channel), so be careful which firmware you flash.
You can still unlock your bootloader without having the latest firmware to hand, but until the firmware matching your stock firmware before you unlocked or newer is available, you may not be able to re-lock your device. You may be able to flash older stock firmware for EU devices, but please do not use OTA updates if you flash older stock firmware, else you may hard brick your device.
Good luck whichever way you decide.
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I would unlock the bootloader just to try to fix the camera (then edit the system files), not for flash twrp / custom rom
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I would unlock the bootloader just to try to fix the camera (then edit the system files), not for flash twrp / custom rom
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Just unlocking the BL wouldn't be enough to edit system files. You'll need root privileges to do so and for that you will have to flash/boot TWRP to install a root app like magisk.
So all the useful information @echo92 posted above is significant for you.
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Is there a way to take TWRP off or disable to still grab the security patches? Or is clean install/backup (like Rutambh mentioned) the only option? The reason I ask I needed TWRP to install camera mod, so it would be nice to still get those OTA's. I tried to just fastboot boot TWRP but it would just hang at it's logo. Flash was only option.
Frawgg said:
Is there a way to take TWRP off or disable to still grab the security patches? Or is clean install/backup (like Rutambh mentioned) the only option? The reason I ask I needed TWRP to install camera mod, so it would be nice to still get those OTA's. I tried to just fastboot boot TWRP but it would just hang at it's logo. Flash was only option.
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If anything in /system or /oem is tampered like installing a camera mod (or just mounting system r/w) the only way to receive future OTA updates is flashing your current ROM incl. stock recovery via fastboot.
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I'm stuck on opj28.108 and I do not have the bootloader unlocked
We don't have the OPJ28.108 to OPJ28.111-12 OTA available as it was not captured. That's one of the unfortunate risks of using a soak test.
Your options to get unstuck would be:
1) wait for the Oreo fastboot stock ROM to be released. No idea when that will be but that should let you formally update to the stable Oreo build, and hopefully save your data.
2) unlock your bootloader, erasing your data. Then you could either flash Nougat again (risky) and then take the OTA update to the stable builds. Or flash TWRP and use the TWRP flashable.
Fastboot stock oreo rom available now https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...-npjs25-93-14-4-march-1-t3608138/post79012833