Photo quality - Sony Xperia XZ2 Real Life Review

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One outdoor, one indoor.

Did anybody try gcam?
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EMJI79 said:
Did anybody try gcam?
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Gcam is not working on xperia devices as it is not camera2api compatible. Here is a good comparison video with OnePlus 6 and you can find many more comparisons of xz2 on this channel. Enjoy!

I got GCam working for my XZ2, without root. But I forgot where to download it. The link is somewhere in XZ2 compact's thread.

Back-lit mode, hdr auto and hdr+ (gcam)
Hello, since XZ2 doesn't have an auto HDR feature as some other manufacturers (name samsung, HTC, LG,...) I am wondering how superior auto is doing in back-lit scenes? Does the back-lit scene in intelligent auto makes it for the exclusion of a force (auto) HDR option? I have a Z5 compact now and its dynamic range is pretty poor. Thanks for sharing your experiences.

My XZ2 always recognises backlit scenes as Landscape or Backlight but the result is great, I have a sample but I really can't upload it because of how big the size of the pictures.

AlvinZahran98 said:
I got GCam working for my XZ2, without root. But I forgot where to download it. The link is somewhere in XZ2 compact's thread.
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here is the link of the thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-xz2-compact/themes/best-gcam-google-camera-app-xz2c-t3778887
thank you for the mention too

Gu.lu said:
Hello, since XZ2 doesn't have an auto HDR feature as some other manufacturers (name samsung, HTC, LG,...) I am wondering how superior auto is doing in back-lit scenes? Does the back-lit scene in intelligent auto makes it for the exclusion of a force (auto) HDR option? I have a Z5 compact now and its dynamic range is pretty poor. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
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If i'm not mistaken, when a backlit / landscape icon appear in Superior Auto, auto HDR will be triggered. At least thats what happens in previous Xperia phone. So it does have the auto HDR features.
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grizzlyspid86 said:
If i'm not mistaken, when a backlit / landscape icon appear in Superior Auto, auto HDR will be triggered. At least thats what happens in previous Xperia phone. So it does have the auto HDR features.
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Which previous Xperia do you mean?
Because on my Z5 compact I don't think that's the case.. The Z5 series camera didn't have a good reputation anyway, but I especially noticed a huge gap to the best ones in unevenly lit scenes.. With the backlit situations, it depends where your focus is - if you want defined clouds and sunset on your photo, then the foreground is gonna be too dark, or properly exposed foreground is gonna lead to overblown highlights (white sky without clouds). As far as I saw, XZ2 also suffers in highly uneven outdoor scenarios, and has IMO worse dynamic range than on Google or HTC.
LG and apple for example show when the HDR is triggered automatically when shooting in auto mode, in real time before taking a photo, and I think Sony should do it too if they offer auto HDR.
IMX 400 is hardwerwise definitely able to do so... If it can shoot moving objects before you press shutter button (predictive capture) then they could also do multiple-frame exposures in real time before taking a photo IMO.. Which maybe they do, I REALLY hope so.
However, sometimes I prefer less dynamic range and higher contrasts.. Pixel 2's or U12+'s photos sometimes have too little contrast for me due to bringing down highlights and/or boosting shadows too much.. At the end it's a trade off nevertheless I think every phone should have had an auto HDR these days.

I realized that the zoom is not just a crop of the original photo, it has a process to soften the image.
I leave an example.
Original, crop and 8x zoom.

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CAMERA: Photo Quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Note5 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
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Hands down the camera on the Note5 is the best of any smartphone I've ever used. The one weakness is fast motion: I often get blurry results when a subject is moving rapidly. I realize there is a dedicated camera setting for this, but I tend to leave the software on Auto because to be honest I never know when my subject is going to be moving quickly, like when photographing my hyper-active 2-year-old
I would say best camera user experience I've ever had with a smartphone. Very fast, very easy to use and almost always successful pictures. Image quality only beaten by my old Lumia 1020, but that thing takes 3 seconds to take a picture
Pro mode and RAW (DNG) conversion can give some stunning results:
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one word awesome
I'm not a pro at taking pics,but yet the results are breathtaking more over the camera Ui has improved drastically,speed,ease,
One of the best cameras on a phone out there now. With some RAW processing, the quality is breathing taking.
Since i had the G4 before i know what good camera is about, G4 wins easily at low light situations, they break even in daylight but at times the Note produce more accurate colour than G4.
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https://flic.kr/p/z6f35G
the camera is very good really like it.
Fenix said:
Pro mode and RAW (DNG) conversion can give some stunning results:
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Hi mate, this picture is amazing, how do you the .dng file? you convert directly the image to .jpg with photoshop? I'm not a pro in photosgraphy but I want to get images like that.
Thanks in advance!
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Hi mate, this picture is amazing, how do you the .dng file? you convert directly the image to .jpg with photoshop? I'm not a pro in photosgraphy but I want to get images like that.
Thanks in advance!
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Its a setting in the camera app
fkofilee said:
Its a setting in the camera app
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Yes I know mate, I mean what do you do with the .dng, you copy the image to a PC and you add some filter, change contrast brightness?
Thanks
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Apple I 6 users jealous
My girl is so jealous because she will send me a picture she snaps on her I-6 and when viewed on the "God Phone" (aka Note 5) it looks 10x better than hers. Love this phone. Other phone users share the same jealousy.
simply its amazing
i love it , but when i wanna take longexpo shots i realized that you have to be so far away from any light source
otherwise you'll get blown up image,
ofc after all its smartphone camera. so its wonderful
shong84 said:
The photo is not real ,I guess
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raw file makes the picture wonders. really really like it camera preset option come a lot handy. Does anybody have a link for tutorials for the pro i really want to learn this thanks in advance...
svetius said:
Hands down the camera on the Note5 is the best of any smartphone I've ever used. The one weakness is fast motion: I often get blurry results when a subject is moving rapidly. I realize there is a dedicated camera setting for this, but I tend to leave the software on Auto because to be honest I never know when my subject is going to be moving quickly, like when photographing my hyper-active 2-year-old
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Can you share that setting you have for fast moving objects
Im trying to figure out what i can do with the raw settings. Havent been able to decompile the smali enough though to understand it
Best camera phone i have used till date
These are the pictures from an aquarium at Bangalore, India.
I found the noise to be minimal. I have used HTC Camera port for Z1 on my N920G with Dr.Ketan's Rom and it's simply amazing. I found the sharpening of stock camera app high and tweaked it with the HTC app and added little saturation and contrast. I needed to set it only once and i was simply stunned by the photos i got from my phone. This is my first Samsung phone and i'm totally loving it
Made me satisfied

Xperia Z5 Camera can not focus on close objects !!

Hi all
I've been using this device for long. I noticed that camera can not focus on close objects. It can only focus on objects up to a certain distance and for smaller distance it focuses on far object and the main subject is blurred while background becomes focussed ,which results into very bad macro shots ( same problem in both 'Superior Auto Mode' and 'Manual Mode' ) .
After many experiments,I've concluded that it can not focus on object that are in 7cm or less away from the camera but, for objects +8cm away it can focus correctly .
I hope to see an update to fix that problem as soon as possible .
some samples :
Model: E6653
Build Number: 32.0.A.6.200
You can download original samples from here :
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-066edkqJ2vLU0xTzhuQ0JtQ3c/view?usp=sharing
The pictures on the right side were taken from a smaller distance than pictures on left side .
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I've uploaded also a video to illustrate the problem :
https://youtu.be/IkwZbZp2dOo
Yep. Z5's minimum focusing distance is about 10cm. It's just a characteristic of the lens. Ultra wide-angle lenses are notoriously bad for macro photography. Z5 might well be the worst phone to take close-ups.
This has nothing to do with the software. This is a hardware based limitation. It is what it is. If you want your phone to take high quality close-ups, do not buy a Z5.
Use 16:9 aspect ratio. Camera software will downsample from 23MP.
Z5's minimum focus distance is 120 mm.I think z5 have a wide-angle lens,so......
Sorry for my bad English
Nothing real related to ultra wide 24mm angle. Sony is generally weak on focus close object, my older Z1c with 27mm lens isn't doing very well too whereas my S6 28mm lens done an excellent job.
Yes I think this is not because of the wide angle camera lens
because I have seen Xperia Z1 , Z2 , Z3 users talking about this problem here on xda and other forums .
korom42 said:
Yes I think this is not because of the wide angle camera lens
because I have seen Xperia Z1 , Z2 , Z3 users talking about this problem here on xda and other forums .
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Z1, Z2 and Z3 have wide angle camera sensiors.
Poor macro shot from Sony xperia z5
I am not a professional but I believe macro shots aren't taken by getting as closed to the subject as possible but by zooming in from a "regular" short distance
Funkmasterchilla said:
I am not a professional but I believe macro shots aren't taken by getting as closed to the subject as possible but by zooming in from a "regular" short distance
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Yes that is how it is done but with such cameras you have mechanical optical zoom and the loss is minimal and the lenses and sensors are bigger and better to reducec noise factor. On mobiles you have to resort to digital zoom which is not lossless though Sony in 8MP SA or manual mode offers upto 3x/5x "lossless" zoom. It is really good and way better than taking the photo at 21MP/23MP and then cropping in on subject.
rajkant1984 said:
Poor macro shot from Sony xperia z5
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Good macro shot from my Z5c. Use "lossless" zoom in 8MP SA/manual mode. This photo was taken with 5x zoom holding the phone with one hand in the air. 1/64, ISO 64.
Here are 3 pictures taken from the same distance (10-15cm): 1X, 3X and 5X. Manual 8MP 16/9, 50 ISO. I think it's not bad in 3X.
Anyone know if the problem is fixed in the Xperia X?
Sony says "The best camera".
I say: the worst.
I changed my Z2 D6503 by this Z5 E6603 and was the worst thing that I've ever done. If we speak about camera and battery.
MTechRD said:
Sony says "The best camera".
I say: the worst.
I changed my Z2 D6503 by this Z5 E6603 and was the worst thing that I've ever done. If we speak about camera and battery.
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Your phone camera is broken. Replace it cause the word "worst" dont compute with Xperia Z1+ line.
EQ2000 said:
Good macro shot from my Z5c. Use "lossless" zoom in 8MP SA/manual mode. This photo was taken with 5x zoom holding the phone with one hand in the air. 1/64, ISO 64.
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Wow, just amazing, how could you do that? Very sharp picture
devilmaycry2020 said:
Wow, just amazing, how could you do that? Very sharp picture
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Thanks! Just took a photo in Superior Auto in 8MP 16:9 mode with the zoom slider set to 5x. Natural lighting in the room of course affected it positively as it is always better than artificial light (more photons, more detail to capture).
the amount of misinformation in this forum is just unbelievable :/

Photo quality

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https://photos.app.goo.gl/B9v21ygCPkCMSn7M8
Xz2 compact vs Sirocco
N8 is used with Gcam. Both is on Auto mode. Without bettering.
And here with updatet Nokia Camera.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/QnkGuvW28xFAnJ6G8
I come to Sirocco from a long line of Xperia`s. I can say that the camera is extremely disappointing on Sirocco. Very bad camera, it is impossible to take a clear photo if you even just move a little. Also the processing is horrible or completely missing (i was expecting a lot more from a pure android).
Marmalux said:
I come to Sirocco from a long line of Xperia`s. I can say that the camera is extremely disappointing on Sirocco. Very bad camera, it is impossible to take a clear photo if you even just move a little. Also the processing is horrible or completely missing (i was expecting a lot more from a pure android).
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I had any flagship Xperia in last years. Now have Xz2 compact. I compare cameras every day. Nokia with Google cam and last updated Nokia cam is better than Sony. In daylight better colors. In low light better detailing. In low light for landscapes must not use flash.
propov said:
I had any flagship Xperia in last years. Now have Xz2 compact. I compare cameras every day. Nokia with Google cam and last updated Nokia cam is better than Sony. In daylight better colors. In low light better detailing. In low light for landscapes must not use flash.
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Are you sure? Maybe you testing on a tripod?
Before this i had a Z5c and it was a lot better, especially in low light. Nokia has to much noise (especially in low light) and lacks details (it is very evident if you zoom in a photo).
But the worst part, it has almost no stabilization, witch in a day to day use (without tripods, ideal lighting.....) by a average user with average knowledge in photography it outputs crappy photos, distorted, unfocused. This is why i call it bad (as most users that do). The sensor itself might be good, but no OIS and bad software combined with a bootloader impossible to be unlocked (so no custom software or proper ports of apps like camera with advanced processing algorithms for the exact hardware) will result in a very expensive (flagship) brick.
So, to resume all the above : Sony is better than Nokia in almost every way (the only exception is the design, the only reason i bought the Sirocco).
Here 2 posts upper I had posted comprasion between xz2c and Sirocco. Have pics in twilight and in total dark. For me Nokia(with Google cam app) is equal to Sony . I have and S8 too. S8 overexposed night shots and and I dont like that. Have you ever tryed Google camera app?
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Here 2 posts upper I had posted comprasion between xz2c and Sirocco. Have pics in twilight and in total dark. For me Nokia(with Google cam app) is equal to Sony . I have and S8 too. S8 overexposed night shots and and I dont like that. Have you ever tryed Google camera app?
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I`m using a Gcam port for MI6. It works a lot better than the stock, and it does some pretty good photos, but only with the HDR+ enhanced mode. The disadvantage is that this port cannot use the second camera (the telephoto one).
If the bootloader could be unlocked and with the complete source code, someone could make a good Gcam port for this phone.
P.s. : Nokia 8 has a very different camera comparing to Nokia 8 Sirocco edition. The N8 has a secondary monochrome camera and it has OIS. N8s does not have OIS and the secondary camera is for telephoto only.
So basically the N8 has a much better camera comparing to the N8s, and the photos should be a lot better, comparable to a Sony flagship.
Im using Pixel port Gcam version. And i think that with any ports second camera didnt works.
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I`m using a Gcam port for MI6. It works a lot better than the stock, and it does some pretty good photos, but only with the HDR+ enhanced mode. The disadvantage is that this port cannot use the second camera (the telephoto one).
If the bootloader could be unlocked and with the complete source code, someone could make a good Gcam port for this phone.
P.s. : Nokia 8 has a very different camera comparing to Nokia 8 Sirocco edition. The N8 has a secondary monochrome camera and it has OIS. N8s does not have OIS and the secondary camera is for telephoto only.
So basically the N8 has a much better camera comparing to the N8s, and the photos should be a lot better, comparable to a Sony flagship.
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Now that the bootloader is unlocked for Nokia 8. Let's hope that they unlock it for Nokia 8 Sirocco as well. And we might see a really good Gcam port that uses both the cameras on the back cause Nokia Camera app is really bad. I don't think they will get it right for a long time. Gcam is far far ahead of them. I don't know how things work around there but maybe they can collaborate with Google to work on more enhanced camera app. I'm just blaberring here.
vs iphone 7
Comprasion Sirocco vs Iphone 7.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/qg8UYsAmbZTwoxr67
propov said:
Comprasion Sirocco vs Iphone 7.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/qg8UYsAmbZTwoxr67
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Did you use Gcam on Sirocco?

Photo quality

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How will you rate the following image taken by my Nokia 8.1?
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shots in daylight are good, although if u zoom in too much there's some softness n waterpaint effect going on, probably a software issue, hope it gets fixed soon.
but in night this phone is simply outstanding, no phone in it's price bracket come even close to it, will upload a sample tomorrow, but the detail, noise level, lights, everything is perfect in its price range
Some shots I took(no edits) and they are definitely way better than 7 plus
This is a low light selfie,street light is yellow,no beauty mode ,just default settings
Nokia 8.1
Stock Camera App
Bokeh
by Aleksandar Nađ, on Flickr
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I have been using this device for a month and here are my findings on its cameras,
1. Back camera works superb in every aspect except the image size which is always to be 7 to 8 MB whether its day time shot or low light or shot in night. So image compressing is not as good as Nokia 7 Plus has.
2. Front Camera is a total flop. Yes I mean it. I take many selfies and they are always much grainy (in all conditions) with and without beauty modes. I don't think so Nokia put a really 20MP sensory at the front instead from the images quality it looks like a 5 MP sensor. Even the Gcam port shows it as 5 MP sensor. Again Nokia 7 Plus take very very great selfies without any filters or 3rd party camera app.
I upgraded from Nokia 7 Plus but after one month I realized That Nokia 7 Plus is far more better than Nokia 8.1 with respect to Cameras and image quality/size.
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I don't think so Nokia put a really 20MP sensory at the front instead from the images quality it looks like a 5 MP sensor. Even the Gcam port shows it as 5 MP sensor. Again Nokia 7 Plus take very very great selfies without any filters or 3rd party camera app.
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Just FYI, number of megapixels has nothing to do with image quality, it's just the size of the image. Gcam takes a 5 Mpix photo with any 5+ Mpix front facing camera because it works that way.
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where is photo ?
Photos off the selfie cam are a bit rubbish, way too sharp and often exposed badly. Photos from the rear camera are fine (if a touch too sharp for my liking), i have found it works much better turning the AI detection off, it seems a bit thick for an AI and often just makes everything really blue. Low light performance is very good (coming from a Nokia 8), you do get some loss of detail once the ISO ramps up but that is all the processing to get rid of the noise, on the bright side at least you get a photo and not a blurry mess like with the Nokia 8. I tried a Pixel 2 with nightsight against the Nokia 8.1 and to be honest the pixel wasn't that much better at all when the scene was very dark, it was better but not "oh wow" better.
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Styleshman said:
2. Front Camera is a total flop. Yes I mean it. I take many selfies and they are always much grainy (in all conditions) with and without beauty modes. I don't think so Nokia put a really 20MP sensory at the front instead from the images quality it looks like a 5 MP sensor. Even the Gcam port shows it as 5 MP sensor.
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That's because the front camera uses pixel binning.
Just to add i have been comparing the Nokia 8.1 low light photos to some taken with a Galaxy S9 and the Nokia 8.1 makes a better job of it from what i have seen.
mantap
https://flic.kr/p/2mmcaR9
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Photo Samples from the OPPO Find X5 Pro

One of the most hyped features of the OPPO Find X5 Pro is the HASSELBLAD camera. The MariSilicon X NPU is a new feature premiering in this phone, which uses a dedicated processor that improves your photos. I took my phone out to take some photos using a variety of different camera modes. I'll post some of the results in this thread.
The camera main camera is made up of the following sensors:
50 MP main camera (Sony IMX766 1/1.56″, f/1.7, 10 bit, 1G6P lens, FOV 80°),
50 MP Ultra-wide-angle (Sony IMX766 1/1.56″, f/2.2, 10 bit),
13 MP telephoto camera (Samsung S5K3M5, f/2.4)
50MP Shots​For the sake of file size, 50MP photos are not enabled by default. If you want to take full advantage of the large 50MP sensor, just select the "50 MP' option at the top of the camera app, when in PHOTO mode. 50MP shots are only available in PHOTO and HI-RES camera modes. These shots are unedited, aside from resizing to fit in this thread. The image on the left is the full shot, and the image on the right is a cropped and zoomed version of the same photo.
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PORTRAIT​Portrait mode is designed to mimic the shallow depth of field effect that you get from DSLR and mirrorless cameras. You can adjust the f-stop on the OPPO Find X5 Pro camera to get the right amount of background blur for your shot. When you're photographing people, you have the option of detecting one or two people. The camera will keep your subjects in focus while blurring everything else. This shooting mode is also effective on regular objects like the ones in these photos.
10-bit color​This option is able to be activated in the settings menu. 10-bit color can be used with Photo and Night modes, using the rear camera. Any photos taken with this setting will be saved as .HEIF files. These types of files are meant to be used with professional editing software. This is a great option for anyone that does extensive edits to their photos and wants to preserve as much color data as possible. If you don't want to use third-party software to edit your shots, the standard ColorOS 12 photo editing tools can recognize and edit these file types.
This first shot is unedited. You'll notice the harsh shadows in the bottom half of the photo.
This second photo is the result of my edit, using the ColorOS 12 photos app. I attempted to balance the lighting throughout the photo, by bringing up the shadows and lowering the contrast. You'll notice that a lot of color data is still present, even in darker parts of the photo.
Standard PHOTO Mode​This is the default mode that you'll have when you start up the camera for the first time. This mode saves photos in the .jpg file type and shoots at a resolution of 4096x3072.
So what do you think of these photo samples from the OPPO Find X5 Pro? Feel free to share some of your best shots in the comments.
[Thank you to OPPO for supporting this thread]
The details on your images are . Have you tried their 4K Ultra Night and Long exposure? Been looking to see how the long exposure improves or makes a difference.
I heard oppo will. Release a new software to. Update the camera performance say compared to Samsung s22 ultra which has a lot more detail in the shots, when compared to oppo find x5 pro.
Do you know if this is true?

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