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I bought the S5 - one of the reasons was that i wanted a great phone camera.
But i'm pretty disappointed with the S5's Camera. Pictures are blurry when its not a bright day (picture stabilisation not enabled).
It could do much better - if you turn the flash on in a biig room (where the tiny LED just don't matter), the pictures taken are sharp. So i think its mainly a software problem (on NG9 ROM still no improvements).
I also dislike the shaky video.
Now i hope the Note 4 maybe can do better. If someone had their hands on the Note 4 or saw some non-Samsung pictures / videos, please let me know.
Sadly there aren't many Android phones with OIS out there
The nexus 5 and lg g3 both have OIS and take great pictures.
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I bought the S5 - one of the reasons was that i wanted a great phone camera.
But i'm pretty disappointed with the S5's Camera. Pictures are blurry when its not a bright day (picture stabilisation not enabled).
It could do much better - if you turn the flash on in a biig room (where the tiny LED just don't matter), the pictures taken are sharp. So i think its mainly a software problem (on NG9 ROM still no improvements).
I also dislike the shaky video.
Now i hope the Note 4 maybe can do better. If someone had their hands on the Note 4 or saw some non-Samsung pictures / videos, please let me know.
Sadly there aren't many Android phones with OIS out there
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I had the S5 when it launched. I now have the LG G3. OIS helps the G3, but for action shots good lighting helps a lot. You can take some amazing action shots with the S5 but you need either burst mode (continuous), sport (action shot) or record in 4K. With the 4K recording, during playback, go into settings and activate screenshot option. Find the frame you want as you play back and take a screenshot. This will be superb 8mp screenshot/photo.
With the Note 4 is does have a much faster AF and lower f stop than the S5, and OIS so it will take better action shots etc....
If its low light and your shooting people or pets that are moving, you'll need xenon flash, which the Note 4 doesnt have.
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And to prove that point here is my S5 flickr album which includes some shots of my dogs running https://www.flickr.com/photos/gavinfabl100/sets/72157643875623354/
and Note 3 https://www.flickr.com/photos/gavinfabl100/sets/72157644034132513/
and some great action shots from another Samsung Galaxy K Zoom which had OIS https://www.flickr.com/photos/gavinfabl100/sets/72157644532639249/
and the LG G3 with OIS https://www.flickr.com/photos/gavinfabl100/sets/72157645618979801/
What are you talking about? The youtube videos of the note 4 look very smooth. Little noise. Pictures seem the same as the S5 for now at least. There are some taken at the showroom floor if you search.
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The nexus 5 and lg g3 both have OIS and take great pictures.
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this. my g3 camera is legit. only reason i still own that phone LOL
There were maybe 2 Note 4 vids from the show, but that just isn't enough to prove the camera good or bad.
(One of them was pretty shaky also..)
I bought the Nexus 5 when it cam out, but the 20 FPS video drove me crazy.
I also had the Lumia 925 - vids were steady, but quality wise, S5's videos were much better - day & night. Sound is also good on the S5.
Hope we can see more critic reviews this time. Samsung made the bad S5's disappeared, it seems.
At the unpacked, Samsung said front lens is an F 1.9. Does anyone know about the rear cam?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwVZx6MRrMY
*Pretty much same sensor as the S5. It is an ISOCELL sensor?
IS it the same (with IOS)?
And what about the aperture? The F 1.9 was targeted to the front cam.
f stop
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With the Note 4 is does have a much faster AF and lower f stop than the S5, and OIS so it will take better action shots etc....
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Do you happen to know what the f stop for the rear camera might be? I know they announced f/1.9 for the front. No one seems to know what it might be for the back.
UPDATE:
The rear camera will have an f stop of f/2.2 based on exif data of sample pics.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwVZx6MRrMY
*Pretty much same sensor as the S5. It is an ISOCELL sensor?
IS it the same (with IOS)?
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in SGS5 - Samsung sensor with ISOCELL_technology
in Note4 - Sony sensor IMX240 with OIS
It has the new Sony sensor IMX240, but it is still ISOCELL.
It has the same size as in the Galaxy S5.
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It has the new Sony sensor IMX240, but it is still ISOCELL.
It has the same size as in the Galaxy S5.
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This doesnt make sense.
Does the Note 4 use same camera sensor as S5 then. Z2 has amazing camera in general compared to wife's S5. Z2 much better in low light but S5 much more vibrant in well lit areas. Hoping Note 4 has better optics.
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Does the Note 4 use same camera sensor as S5 then. Z2 has amazing camera in general compared to wife's S5. Z2 much better in low light but S5 much more vibrant in well lit areas. Hoping Note 4 has better optics.
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No it doesnt. S5 has isocell. Note 4 has sony imx240 with OIS. The OIS will allow for much better low light pictures. Daylight pictures will look about the same. Sony phones always look noisy and underexposed. Samsung oversharpens, brightens, denoises, and saturates their pictures.
My note 3 camera is a joke in low light, I just get a blur if the subject moves. Is it likely this won't happen with the note 4 sony sensor?
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My note 3 camera is a joke in low light, I just get a blur if the subject moves. Is it likely this won't happen with the note 4 sony sensor?
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Lol
Any camera will get blur if the object moves unless you have a $2,000 dslr
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My note 3 camera is a joke in low light, I just get a blur if the subject moves. Is it likely this won't happen with the note 4 sony sensor?
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Low light photography usually requires that you use a tripod to see the best results. OIS should be helpful, however, there are other factors like shutter speed, focal length of lens, aperture and ISO. The focal length of the N4 rear camera lens is 4.8mm with a fixed aperture of f/2.2. By dividing the focal length of the lens, 4.8mm, by the f stop, 2.2, you arrive at the diameter of the hole in the lens that lets light into the sensor, which is approximately 2.2mm. This measurement is identical to The Samsung Galaxy S5, which means the light entering the lens of each camera is identical. Now I don't know if you are able to control shutter speed on the S5, or if you will be able to in the Note 4, but by slowing down the shutter speed, you expose the sensor to that light for a longer period of time, which can result in a better photograph in low light, however the trade off is that nothing can move, neither your subject or your camera. If the camera has a higher quality sensor, that can play a roll as well. A higher ISO setting can help the sensor gather more light, usually at the expense of a noisier exposure. From what is known so far, I think the N4 will see improvements in low light with this Camera. I suspect it will rival or beat the iPhone 6+'s camera if it's true that it has a Sony sensor.
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Any camera will get blur if the object moves unless you have a $2,000 dslr
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Sorry I think I didn't explain properly
I'm not talking low light as in dark, like trying to get shots of the moon, a city scene at night or even in a nightclub. Not even candlelight.
I mean taking shots of my son in our living room, at a soft play location or any other place where there isn't bright sunlight. Indoor pictures in general are real bad.
My compact Panasonic can handle these ok. I'm sure since the galaxy s 3 'medium' light pics are worse.
Thanks for all your inputs though. Any more advice will be appreciated.
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Low light photography usually requires that you use a tripod to see the best results. OIS should be helpful, however, there are other factors like shutter speed, focal length of lens, aperture and ISO. The focal length of the N4 lens is 4.8mm with a fixed aperture of f/2.2. By dividing the focal length of the lens, 4.8mm, by the f stop, 2.2, you arrive at the diameter of the hole in the lens that lets light into the sensor, which is approximately 2.2mm. This measurement is identical to The Samsung Galaxy S5, which means the light entering the lens of each camera is identical. Now I don't know if you are able to control shutter speed on the S5, or if you will be able to in the Note 4, but by slowing down the shutter speed, you expose the sensor to that light for a longer period of time, which can result in a better photograph in low light, however the trade off is that nothing can move, neither your subject or your camera. If the camera has a higher quality sensor, that can play a roll as well. A higher ISO setting can help the sensor gather more light, usually at the expense of a noisier exposure. From what is known so far, I think the N4 will see improvements in low light with this Camera. I suspect it will rival or beat the iPhone 6+'s camera if it's true that it has a Sony sensor.
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Thanks for your explanation. I was aware of very low light camera workings, I've posted again as I meant what you might refer to as medium light or indoor shots.
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Sorry I think I didn't explain properly
I'm not talking low light as in dark, like trying to get shots of the moon, a city scene at night or even in a nightclub. Not even candlelight.
I mean taking shots of my son in our living room, at a soft play location or any other place where there isn't bright sunlight. Indoor pictures in general are real bad.
My compact Panasonic can handle these ok. I'm sure since the galaxy s 3 'medium' light pics are worse.
Thanks for all your inputs though. Any more advice will be appreciated.
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Thanks for your explanation. I was aware of very low light camera workings, I've posted again as I meant what you might refer to as medium light or indoor shots.
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Ahh i gotcha i was gonna say! lol
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My note 3 camera is a joke in low light, I just get a blur if the subject moves. Is it likely this won't happen with the note 4 sony sensor?
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Main reason I moved from.note 3 to z2 but like the note line.
I've been considering the z3. I like the stereo speakers too. What makes the camera better on z2/z3? I guess being a Sony lens is why but won't the note 4 use the same lens possibly?
I found this video on youtube showing samsung galaxy s6 Edge under low light, the results are just awesome, The video also shows comparision between samsung galaxy s6 Edge and note 4 and you can clearly see the diffrence inspite of both using same shooter
Link :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mUbgwcmc5s&list=PLrkFw--v_fzN-SgjCZr_f4GdoF0jCxa4m
Note: The Video is not in English
Wow...that's so freaking impressive..
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wow
wow very nice
Fizuck. That's really impressive. I didn't know what he was saying, but you could hear the wonder and amazement in his voice, especially when comparing to the Note 4.
Amazing
what if the camera he is using to record the youtube video actually making environment seem darker than it actually really is? :silly:
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what if the camera he is using to record the youtube video actually making environment seem darker than it actually really is? :silly:
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Very possible but they did post a screenshot after the first picture was taken without the recording phone, and damn does it look good.
FINALLY!
Dude that is f1.9 for you. Huge improvement over f2.2 lens. Means a lot.
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Looks great XD
WoW wanna buy it
Not that I like to link to BGR or anything but http://bgr.com/2015/03/06/galaxy-s6-vs-iphone-6-camera-comparison-low-light/ here is a low light shot comparing iPhone 6 Plus to Galaxy S6 and as you can see the iPhone SUCKED.
camera performing is a deal breaker for me; if the camera does the real things I'm all in for the edge
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Not that I like to link to BGR or anything but http://bgr.com/2015/03/06/galaxy-s6-vs-iphone-6-camera-comparison-low-light/ here is a low light shot comparing iPhone 6 Plus to Galaxy S6 and as you can see the iPhone SUCKED.
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In the BGR shot especially s6 camera does not show anything better than note 4 can do currently.
f1.9 might help a faster shutter by 3-5 frames / sec indeed, but the post processing is still off ... same as note 4 i.e. extra softening of the image to reduce noise.
EDIT: In the German article "Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge: Die Kamera bei Low-light auf den Straßen Barcelonas ausprobiert" the bicycle shot between Note 4 and S6 is completely off as both are taken at different angles thus different metering and exposure results along with different set of details too.
However only found one conclusive proof and that was the in restaurant food shot. I detail checked the photos and I can confirm that Samsung has improved the post processing in S6 to a bit. Less softening and slight increase in noise has enhanced the clarity of picture. The new hardware f1.9 can seem to lighten up darker areas as well which is good but the best they have done so far is increasing the clarity by letting in a bit of noise intelligently in the post processing. Exactly this is causing 80% if the goodness here.
As far as Note 4 & iPhone6 goes, only difference that I can see is iphone is allowing much less light absorbed on sensor than note 4 by using a faster shutter by 4-5 frames and also lesser softening of the image with a bit of noise left that helps in a sharper looking picture but a darker one. Note 4 has much much more light absorbed onto the sensor thus illuminated picture but very soft look due to de-noising and then extra sharpening filter applied as well to over come it which in turns produces aliasing on the lines/borders and artifacts here and there
wow!
I got my first Iphone 6 at 3 months ago, before that i always had a Samsung made....and the iphone 6 is so boring and the low light pictures is terrible I don't like it at all!! I am so exited to get a samsung galaxy s6 edge and back to android!
Unbelievable!!!
No need for camera now.I found the curved water line on the wallpaper resembles a dancing woman. has anyone found that too?
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Hmmm It s the best performance i v ever seen...
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Spectacular! Is this even possible? Samsung this time impress me.
Wow.. .Bow down to the king of all smart phones ..S6 EDGE
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Wow...that's so freaking impressive.. amazing
I Think It's Owesome...!
I currently own both the GS6 and GS7 so I thought I'd do a side by side comparison between the two cameras. If you're interested you can see the full resolution files here.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bz0WeUKyeOS4MVdvQ2hYQ29IYUU&usp=sharing
The files are named accordingly. I pretty much held the phones on top of each other so the FOV may be slightly different. Both phones were in "Auto" mode with the flash off and HDR set to auto.
As far as I can tell, they both have their strengths and weaknesses. I like the wider angle of the GS7 but the GS6 seems to retain much more detail even in lower light situations. The GS7 seems to apply a lot more noise reduction which blurs fine details. the GS7 has a much nicer bokeh (background blur) due to its larger aperture.
The S6 looks much better to me. Hopefully a software fix takes care of the camera.
So strange...
Thanks for the pics !
I prefer the S7 ones, looks better in most cases.
Plus faster focus, bigger FOV = :good:
A bit disappointing. Have the S7 Edge on order but this bunch of pictures really makes me wonder if I would cancel it. The detail is much nicer on the S6, the S7 smooths everything to a blur so the details disappear. Need to se more pictures from S7 users to really decide
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A bit disappointing. Have the S7 Edge on order but this bunch of pictures really makes me wonder if I would cancel it. The detail is much nicer on the S6, the S7 smooths everything to a blur so the details disappear. Need to se more pictures from S7 users to really decide
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It is a little disappointing after all the hype that Samsung made about the camera. I think it could be improved with firmware updates as the main issue seems to be the software noise reduction. They went too heavy with it and it blurs over fine details. It would be nice if they gave the user the ability to control it with "high/med/low" settings instead of just blasting it all over every picture.
In the end I'm OK with the camera, it takes good pictures and the wider angle, larger aperture makes it worth it. I wouldn't say the camera is WORSE than the S6 but it's not better either. They both have their strengths and weaknesses. the AF on the S7 is awwwwesome though.
it's strange how much bad it is... especially when you see the reviews (now 2 reviews exists and show results so different than this - a lot better).
Are you sur you have remove lens protection?
Wider angle? Am I missing something about the S7 camera? The 4:3 actually makes it a narrower angle, not wider (that would be 16:9)?
The format of the sensor has nothing to do with the angle, the focal length is the key. http://imaging.nikon.com/lineup/dslr/basics/19/01.htm
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It is a little disappointing after all the hype that Samsung made about the camera. I think it could be improved with firmware updates as the main issue seems to be the software noise reduction. They went too heavy with it and it blurs over fine details. It would be nice if they gave the user the ability to control it with "high/med/low" settings instead of just blasting it all over every picture.
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You forgot the "without" setting
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Wider angle? Am I missing something about the S7 camera? The 4:3 actually makes it a narrower angle, not wider (that would be 16:9)?
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The S7 has a wider field of view even with its 4:3 aspect ratio. If you crop an S7 image to 16:9 it looks like an S6 image.
first line of photos i think S7 is better, but in low light it looks like crap too much post processing, i wonder if there is a way to ask Sammy about it, if it software fault it can be easily fixed.
Photo 6 was a surprise for me, i expected the S7 better than the S6 in low light.. Maybe the EXIF data explains a bit why.
S6 photo 6 : Auto exposure, Program AE, 1/10 sec, f/1.9, ISO 500
S7 photo 6 : Auto exposure, Program AE, 1/25 sec, f/1.7, ISO 160
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Photo 6 was a surprise for me, i expected the S7 better than the S6 in low light.. Maybe the EXIF data explains a bit why.
S6 photo 6 : Auto exposure, Program AE, 1/10 sec, f/1.9, ISO 500
S7 photo 6 : Auto exposure, Program AE, 1/25 sec, f/1.7, ISO 160
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Yeah that's kind of my fault. I think the GS6 light metered the dark and the GS7 metered to the computer screen. I was holding both phones on top of each other to try to get the same image but I had the S6 slightly aimed down a bit.
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Yeah that's kind of my fault. I think the GS6 light metered the dark and the GS7 metered to the computer screen. I was holding both phones on top of each other to try to get the same image but I had the S6 slightly aimed down a bit.
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Yes, it looks like the S6 had the focus on the keyboard, and the S7 on the computer screen. That can explain the difference in lightning.
Interesting to note that in auto and default manual it goes for point metering (atleast by observed by some photos exif). Should be matrix metering else the metering will be measured on the surface you are aiming at in a very small box area. If it's dark it will most likely overexpose and if it's bright it will most likely underexpose and would require manual EV adjustment for correct exposure. This might explain why quite a lot of S7 photos just look bad and either overexposed or underexposed and lots of highlight clipping.
My (amateur) opinion is that when you want to compare low light photo's, the focus must be the same. In picture 6 you can see that the best. Do I have a point?
S6 wins because of the higher MP count you can zoom way more on the photo's on the s6 so again samsung kinda fails and doubt they can make it better with updates.
I did not pixel peep but on my screen the S7 pictures look better than S6 ones? More lights, higher dynamic, better focus?
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I did not pixel peep but on my screen the S7 pictures look better than S6 ones? More lights, higher dynamic, better focus?
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But but but... i can zoom in more!
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S6 wins because of the higher MP count you can zoom way more on the photo's on the s6 so again samsung kinda fails and doubt they can make it better with updates.
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Im sure they can make the s6 focus faster with an update, or increase the sensor size with an update... just leave ok.
I've heard too many negative reviews about the camera and that it can be a deal breaker..so which camera is better iphone 6's camera or the axon 7's camera?
Bought the phone because previous one was stolen few days before I went traveling in China. Been more than happy with the pictures it takes. Panorama is cool too. It struggled with low light, but it improving noticably with every update.
Uploaded a few pics from a national park in China for you. You be the judge. All pics were made with auto mode.
https://apexalpha.stackstorage.com/index.php/s/NZeWb0ifRNf02aM
I have to say though. The iPhone costs $300 more. If you care so much go for the Galaxy S7 for camera (and Android)
Actually not that bad
I remember hearing tons of negative reviews on the camera and being worried that it wasn't going to be that good but after using the phone for about a week I can honestly say the camera is pretty good. It does struggle a bit in low light, though but that's simply because of the amount of megapixels. In my opinion, some reviewers are just a bit picky
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I've heard too many negative reviews about the camera and that it can be a deal breaker..so which camera is better iphone 6's camera or the axon 7's camera?
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I'm coming from a Nexus 6P and the Axon 7 camera just doesn't compare, especially in low light. The 6P had a great camera. That being said, since B27 came out things have improved noticeably and while the camera still isn't ad good as the 6P, it's more usable now and does produce decent enough shots in low and pretty good ones in good light.
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Low light scenes are very challenging for the camera. ZTE really need to improve the HDR processing, where it can't touch 2015's Nexus phones and where it trails the much cheaper Honor 7.
There's not much sun where I am and I'm really noticing the difference.
You can certainly get better-looking results by playing with white balance in manual mode but that won't help you if you want to snap a darker foreground without blowing out all the background detail - a trick the Nexus phones' HDR+ excels at. I know they are deadly slow but I'd be happy to put up with much longer exposure times if it meant better pictures.
Could you please provide some selfie snaps as I'm kindda of a selfie guy?
Also I currently have the iPhone 5 so if the axon's camera is worse than the iphone 5 I might go with the oneplus 3 even though I hate its 1080p screen
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Could you please provide some selfie snaps as I'm kindda of a selfie guy?
Also I currently have the iPhone 5 so if the axon's camera is worse than the iphone 5 I might go with the oneplus 3 even though I hate its 1080p screen
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There's such thing as a sefie guy?
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There's such thing as a sefie guy?
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At least where I live?
Could someone Post some selfies?
If you have any doubts, especially with low light, well, don't. This is by far the best phone cam I've seen, ever. But that's my opinion if course. All shot in auto mode. Of course, when you blow m up they get grainy and such but if you keep 'm small while viewing the colors, lighting and the whole scene is captured beautifully.
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Very good pictures! I do like the camera on this badboy...
Wow very nice! :good:
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Does suppose to look blurry. That's what all my still imagines look like
Nice shots! Camera does have potential, but the auto-focus has issues. It misses far too often
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Nice shots! Camera does have potential, but the auto-focus has issues. It misses far too often
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Yeah. Wish it had dual pixel focus like the s7
Yes, the dpaf would be awesome. That is the only thing this is missing. Truly remarkable camera, though, even given that.
My Mate 9 pictures are not coming as good as Galaxy S7 Edge. Am I doing something wrong, both phones tested with Auto mode
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My Mate 9 pictures are not coming as good as Galaxy S7 Edge. Am I doing something wrong, both phones tested with Auto mode
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Because it's not as good as the S7's camera, especially in low-light.
i would say they are different. I found the ability to play around with Depth of Field ana amazing tool to create far more professional pictures. But in low light the shots are noisier. so for poitn and shoot / get a picture every time the s7 edge (and iphone) are better in low light. But in good light they are comparable, while the ability to play around with bokeh is amazing.
Try manual mode in low light. Also, make sure you keep your hands as steady as possible... this camera is great, but not quite at the top.
Well if you need more evidence, these are my first shots from the UK version of the Mate 9. Epic.
Here's my first sample of photos from the Mate 9 UK version camera. We really need the software update soon as this improves the quality and features of the camera too.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/18/huawei-mate-9-stunning-photos-from-the-camera/
And my first impressions if you're interested. Full review soon.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/17/huawei-mate-9-first-impressions-via-vlog/
^very nice pictures! Does it have HDR+ ?
Excellent photos. Sometimes wonder why to carry that heavy SLR anymore. Maybe from now I should permanently mount telephoto lense on it and let the Mate 9 takes all the wides.
Some more shots from yesterday. Simply stunning camera !!
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/20/huawei-mate-9-more-superb-photos-from-the-camera/
Indeed - wonderful pictures!
Not as good as s7 or pixel camera, but it's still a good camera. 2016 set the bar high for mobile photography and it feels like Huawei are still finding their feet and playing catch up somewhat.
Still though I'm not looking back at the s7. The Mate 9 camera is good enough for my purposes and it beats the s7 and s7 edge in other areas, while also being cheaper than the edge in my country.
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It's better than my S7 in most ways except focus and burst shutter speeds. Quality is better. The Pixel relies on HDR+ which can either create awesome shots or fake looking ones. The Mate 9 is far more natural and decent quality.
So here was my test of the zoom quality , done just before dusk to make it harder. https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/25/huawei-mate-9-opticalhybrid-zoom-camera-samples/
And another post, celebrating the camera of the Mate 9, with some mega action shots too.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/2...ts-camera-action-special-modes-and-full-auto/
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It's better than my S7 in most ways except focus and burst shutter speeds. Quality is better. The Pixel relies on HDR+ which can either create awesome shots or fake looking ones. The Mate 9 is far more natural and decent quality.
So here was my test of the zoom quality , done just before dusk to make it harder. https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/25/huawei-mate-9-opticalhybrid-zoom-camera-samples/
And another post, celebrating the camera of the Mate 9, with some mega action shots too.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/2...ts-camera-action-special-modes-and-full-auto/
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Love it.