If you still doubt the camera, well... - Huawei Mate 9 Guides, News, & Discussion

If you have any doubts, especially with low light, well, don't. This is by far the best phone cam I've seen, ever. But that's my opinion if course. All shot in auto mode. Of course, when you blow m up they get grainy and such but if you keep 'm small while viewing the colors, lighting and the whole scene is captured beautifully.

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Very good pictures! I do like the camera on this badboy...

Wow very nice! :good:
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Does suppose to look blurry. That's what all my still imagines look like

Nice shots! Camera does have potential, but the auto-focus has issues. It misses far too often

Goronok said:
Nice shots! Camera does have potential, but the auto-focus has issues. It misses far too often
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Yeah. Wish it had dual pixel focus like the s7

Yes, the dpaf would be awesome. That is the only thing this is missing. Truly remarkable camera, though, even given that.

My Mate 9 pictures are not coming as good as Galaxy S7 Edge. Am I doing something wrong, both phones tested with Auto mode
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My Mate 9 pictures are not coming as good as Galaxy S7 Edge. Am I doing something wrong, both phones tested with Auto mode
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Because it's not as good as the S7's camera, especially in low-light.

i would say they are different. I found the ability to play around with Depth of Field ana amazing tool to create far more professional pictures. But in low light the shots are noisier. so for poitn and shoot / get a picture every time the s7 edge (and iphone) are better in low light. But in good light they are comparable, while the ability to play around with bokeh is amazing.

Try manual mode in low light. Also, make sure you keep your hands as steady as possible... this camera is great, but not quite at the top.

Well if you need more evidence, these are my first shots from the UK version of the Mate 9. Epic.
Here's my first sample of photos from the Mate 9 UK version camera. We really need the software update soon as this improves the quality and features of the camera too.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/18/huawei-mate-9-stunning-photos-from-the-camera/
And my first impressions if you're interested. Full review soon.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/17/huawei-mate-9-first-impressions-via-vlog/

^very nice pictures! Does it have HDR+ ?

Excellent photos. Sometimes wonder why to carry that heavy SLR anymore. Maybe from now I should permanently mount telephoto lense on it and let the Mate 9 takes all the wides.

Some more shots from yesterday. Simply stunning camera !!
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/20/huawei-mate-9-more-superb-photos-from-the-camera/

Indeed - wonderful pictures!

Not as good as s7 or pixel camera, but it's still a good camera. 2016 set the bar high for mobile photography and it feels like Huawei are still finding their feet and playing catch up somewhat.
Still though I'm not looking back at the s7. The Mate 9 camera is good enough for my purposes and it beats the s7 and s7 edge in other areas, while also being cheaper than the edge in my country.
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It's better than my S7 in most ways except focus and burst shutter speeds. Quality is better. The Pixel relies on HDR+ which can either create awesome shots or fake looking ones. The Mate 9 is far more natural and decent quality.
So here was my test of the zoom quality , done just before dusk to make it harder. https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/25/huawei-mate-9-opticalhybrid-zoom-camera-samples/
And another post, celebrating the camera of the Mate 9, with some mega action shots too.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/2...ts-camera-action-special-modes-and-full-auto/

gavinfabl said:
It's better than my S7 in most ways except focus and burst shutter speeds. Quality is better. The Pixel relies on HDR+ which can either create awesome shots or fake looking ones. The Mate 9 is far more natural and decent quality.
So here was my test of the zoom quality , done just before dusk to make it harder. https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/25/huawei-mate-9-opticalhybrid-zoom-camera-samples/
And another post, celebrating the camera of the Mate 9, with some mega action shots too.
https://gavinsgadgets.com/2017/01/2...ts-camera-action-special-modes-and-full-auto/
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Love it.

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What's the camera quality like in the newer Nexuses (Nexii?)

Hi,
A few years ago the cameras on the nexus were average to below average, I'm wondering if it has greatly imrpoved since then? It's the only thing stopping me from getting a nexus.
Thanks
? I would suggest checking the reviews and looking at the photos thread.
One of the first things that get called out is the improved camera quality.
metrize said:
Hi,
A few years ago the cameras on the nexus were average to below average, I'm wondering if it has greatly imrpoved since then? It's the only thing stopping me from getting a nexus.
Thanks
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The camera is very good, it takes some take outstanding photos. As the other person pointed out you can check the online reviews, and we have a photo thread in the general section.
I think both cameras are AMAZING! Ive went through s6 edge plus..iphone 6s plus..lg v10..and now nexus 6p. Front camera is really good and rear is amazing! I was bummed about no OIS+ but i havent had a problem and there is video stabilization i guess.
Excellent rear camera for sure! HDR+, Burst, etc.
Nexii cams used to be garbage, for sure, but that is NOT the case now.
Sure, the 6p might not have the best cam, but it's a solid competitor with everything available in a phone right now.
The camera is excellent for both photos and video in my experience. I'm very happy I got away from Samsung. Highly recommended.
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Good apart from lack of OIS.
The camera is amazing. Detail, auto focus, HDR+, video is all amazing. But the 2 most impressive things to me by far are the low light photos and the zoom. Granted I'm coming from an s4, but the zoom is actually usable on this phone. The noose is minimal, focus is still pretty good. I was taking among pictures in a dark concert, zoomed in, no flash and they came out extremely well. You won't be disappointed.
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Is the camera this bad?

I've heard too many negative reviews about the camera and that it can be a deal breaker..so which camera is better iphone 6's camera or the axon 7's camera?
Bought the phone because previous one was stolen few days before I went traveling in China. Been more than happy with the pictures it takes. Panorama is cool too. It struggled with low light, but it improving noticably with every update.
Uploaded a few pics from a national park in China for you. You be the judge. All pics were made with auto mode.
https://apexalpha.stackstorage.com/index.php/s/NZeWb0ifRNf02aM
I have to say though. The iPhone costs $300 more. If you care so much go for the Galaxy S7 for camera (and Android)
Actually not that bad
I remember hearing tons of negative reviews on the camera and being worried that it wasn't going to be that good but after using the phone for about a week I can honestly say the camera is pretty good. It does struggle a bit in low light, though but that's simply because of the amount of megapixels. In my opinion, some reviewers are just a bit picky
memo45 said:
I've heard too many negative reviews about the camera and that it can be a deal breaker..so which camera is better iphone 6's camera or the axon 7's camera?
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I'm coming from a Nexus 6P and the Axon 7 camera just doesn't compare, especially in low light. The 6P had a great camera. That being said, since B27 came out things have improved noticeably and while the camera still isn't ad good as the 6P, it's more usable now and does produce decent enough shots in low and pretty good ones in good light.
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Low light scenes are very challenging for the camera. ZTE really need to improve the HDR processing, where it can't touch 2015's Nexus phones and where it trails the much cheaper Honor 7.
There's not much sun where I am and I'm really noticing the difference.
You can certainly get better-looking results by playing with white balance in manual mode but that won't help you if you want to snap a darker foreground without blowing out all the background detail - a trick the Nexus phones' HDR+ excels at. I know they are deadly slow but I'd be happy to put up with much longer exposure times if it meant better pictures.
Could you please provide some selfie snaps as I'm kindda of a selfie guy?
Also I currently have the iPhone 5 so if the axon's camera is worse than the iphone 5 I might go with the oneplus 3 even though I hate its 1080p screen
memo45 said:
Could you please provide some selfie snaps as I'm kindda of a selfie guy?
Also I currently have the iPhone 5 so if the axon's camera is worse than the iphone 5 I might go with the oneplus 3 even though I hate its 1080p screen
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There's such thing as a sefie guy?
kidnova said:
There's such thing as a sefie guy?
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At least where I live?
Could someone Post some selfies?

Camera is quite capable, the MIUI camera is the weak link.

Here's some shots taken with a 3rd party app called Snap Camera. Enjoy!
Hmm limited file size attachments. Here are links to the originals!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bx_9X4Ugo_yaUWZvek1BM1R0TUU/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bx_9X4Ugo_yaMkx3VnFDYkoyYXM/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bx_9X4Ugo_yaTGgxTVU4QXVGWjA/view?usp=drivesdk
I put Google camera and open camera on mine and while they seem better both are somewhat slow to auto focus and snap oic. For a camera on phone to me that quick snap is important. May try the one you mentioned to see if better.
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SWBgHz said:
I put Google camera and open camera on mine and while they seem better both are somewhat slow to auto focus and snap oic. For a camera on phone to me that quick snap is important. May try the one you mentioned to see if better.
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It has zero shutter lag, instant photos, really recommend it. Let me know if you want my settings! I'm not 100% sure but It may be a paid app, i think i'd purchased it sometime in the past.
Edit - Tried Open Camera - not very good output, couldn't get Google Camera to work for some reason.. Snap Camera is definitely the best I've seen so far.
Paulrgod,
Thank you so much for this post. What a difference snap makes. No focus breathing and stabilization built in. Huge win as the camera is so important to me as it is my daily picture taker for my family and the biggest concern for this phone...but not any more.
Thanks again!
No problem, happy to help.
I took some photos of my son playing in the living room the other day and it was awful, unacceptable quality really.
So I decided to see if any other apps would make a difference. The quality of the photos I posted above were better quality than comparison shots I took on my Note 5!
Still struggling in low light a bit though, but I've found keeping the ISO in check, set at 400 / 800 the shots are acceptable, but can be difficult getting it to take the shot.
Those shots are extremely noisy, lacking detail and soft ... they just feature heavy post processing (by the app) to make it more attractive to the average punter - saturation, contrast and smoothing. The camera absolutely isn't capable. In fact, many phones of similar price have better selfie sensors than this phone does main camera ...
Well someone's a bit grumpy. Did you click the links to see the full versions? The attachments in the first post are poor due to size rrestrictions. I'm quite happy with them actually.
They came out better than compatible shots taken at the same time on my Note 5.
Kinda hilarious that an app can do a better job than the phone manufacturer's own software.
I tried Snap camera too, but A Better Camera does better in terms of instant focus, or just it seemed to me
3rd party cams also do better in WB and details.
The camera is absolutely horrendous.
I felt like I went back in time to 2009
I've been using the Samsung Note since it first launched.
The note 5 camera is excellent
The mi mix is profusely bad
CorruptedSanity said:
The camera is absolutely horrendous.
I felt like I went back in time to 2009
I've been using the Samsung Note since it first launched.
The note 5 camera is excellent
The mi mix is profusely bad
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It's a matter of perspective. I too ha a note 5 and yes, it's one of the best phone camera's, as well documented through the year the note 5 has been on the market. So, by that logic, nearly every other phone camera will be disappointing.
However, from my unscientific observation of the note 5, Mi Max (not Mi Mix) and Lenovo Phab 2 Pro, the Mix is better than the Max or Phab 2 Pro. Focus and processing is faster and moving targets can be captured with some resemblance to the image photographed.
Could be the SOC (Max and P2P are SD 652 while Mix is SD 821).
I am enjoying the phone, even though the camera is less than really good. I'm willing to trade the 6.4 inch screen and condensed body for the lesser camera.
Just one man's perspective.
audscott said:
It's a matter of perspective. I too ha a note 5 and yes, it's one of the best phone camera's, as well documented through the year the note 5 has been on the market. So, by that logic, nearly every other phone camera will be disappointing.
However, from my unscientific observation of the note 5, Mi Max (not Mi Mix) and Lenovo Phab 2 Pro, the Mix is better than the Max or Phab 2 Pro. Focus and processing is faster and moving targets can be captured with some resemblance to the image photographed.
Could be the SOC (Max and P2P are SD 652 while Mix is SD 821).
I am enjoying the phone, even though the camera is less than really good. I'm willing to trade the 6.4 inch screen and condensed body for the lesser camera.
Just one man's perspective.
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Couldn't agree more on the bolded part as an owner of the Note 5 and returned the Phab 2 Pro after less than a week of ownership. Phab 2 Pro could of been a nice phone if they didn't cut corners in certain areas. Then again its all subjective to ones opinion.
Regarding the camera, wished it was as good as Samsung phones but I've used the 6.4" screen more than I've taken pictures so I'm ok with the traded of.
Do you know if this 3rd parry camera is actually capturing a photo and processing it? Or just basically screenshoting the image on the screen like SnapChat does...
Also does it have HDR?
VeryCoolAlan said:
Do you know if this 3rd parry camera is actually capturing a photo and processing it? Or just basically screenshoting the image on the screen like SnapChat does...
Also does it have HDR?
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Definitely Capturing and processing the image. Yes it does HDR - of which you can customise a hell of a lot - exposure values, delays between shots etc..
I've never seen a camera app with as many settings as this actually.
I do photography as a serious hobby.
Mix camera has its strength and weakness. (Native app)
The colour balance is quite accurate most of the time but it definitely love to over saturate.
The auto focus is snappy enough.
The auto exposure is surprisingly good as well.
The low light is terrible but ALL phone sucks at it.
HDR works and they keep the effect to the lower end which I like. While pixel has super good HDR results, sometimes the effect is way over used.
I really like the sharpening level they choose. It feel just right (More on the soft side)
Overall I would say the biggest flaw is that it's unreliable. Occasionally the colours are just way over saturated, but hey that's why I have a camera
To anyone that is rooted and has enabled the Camera2 API (adding persist.camera.HAL3.enabled=1 to build.prop), give ProShot by Rise Up Games a try. Manual Camera by Geeky Devs Studio doesn't work when I mess with the shutter speed or ISO setting but ProShot does. Now both of these are paid but I'm sure you have Play Reward credit spare
I waited for MIUI 9 to see if it would bring an improvement in the camera application but now that I have it, I don't see any improvement. So I decided for now to use Snap Camera. Can someone tell me what would be the best settings to use Snap Camera in the MIX?
Is the Snap Camera app, better then the Google Camera app downloaded from the Oneplus 5 thread?

The Pixel 2 Photography Thread

I don't get impressed by technology much, but the Pixel 2's camera is truly impressive. I think it's better even than what reviews are saying. Every other phone I've owned I've been able to get good photos if I held it right, in the right light, with no movement, and the perfect combination of factors. With the Pixel 2, I find it nearly impossible to take a bad photo. Everything comes out good.
Let's share some of our favorite Pixel 2 shots.
(These obviously are down-scaled so the clarity isn't going to be the same as full-res)
Night time picture of full moon. No edits. Flash off everything else auto.
Telperion said:
I don't get impressed by technology much, but the Pixel 2's camera is truly impressive. I think it's better even than what reviews are saying. Every other phone I've owned I've been able to get good photos if I held it right, in the right light, with no movement, and the perfect combination of factors. With the Pixel 2, I find it nearly impossible to take a bad photo. Everything comes out good.
Let's share some of our favorite Pixel 2 shots.
(These obviously are down-scaled so the clarity isn't going to be the same as full-res)
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Some lovely photos dude! My sentiments too, really love this phone and the camera capabilities. It's only going to get better with the visual core and machine learning for portrait shots.
Agreed
sstanton86 said:
Some lovely photos dude! My sentiments too, really love this phone and the camera capabilities. It's only going to get better with the visual core and machine learning for portrait shots.
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Same with yours, and probably similarly I didn't set out to take photos, I was just out and around and snapped what I saw.
This was a very low light environment but the detail it retains in the pine needles is incredible.
Direct linking is not working I guess.
The last two I played around with the editing options in the GPhoto app.
The rum and coke makes a good wallpaper.
sstanton86 said:
Some lovely photos dude! My sentiments too, really love this phone and the camera capabilities. It's only going to get better with the visual core and machine learning for portrait shots.
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great shots :good:
hrd+ mode was on or off?
have you tuned those pics using snapseed etc ?
joyshvabra said:
great shots :good:
hrd+ mode was on or off?
have you tuned those pics using snapseed etc ?
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Thanks! HDR+ was on on all of them by default. Got some truly amazing ones as well as those that day, was such an amazing backdrop. All are non-edited and I didn't use Snapseed.
Also I've only just discovered HDR Enhanced and HDR+ are two separate modes, still a little confused as to the difference, as I know HDR Enhanced does take longer to process. I've tried googling it but read a lot of conflicting information. So would be ace if someone who knew what they were talking about could explain the difference between them.
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Thanks! HDR+ was on on all of them by default. Got some truly amazing ones as well as those that day, was such an amazing backdrop. All are non-edited and I didn't use Snapseed.
Also I've only just discovered HDR Enhanced and HDR+ are two separate modes, still a little confused as to the difference, as I know HDR Enhanced does take longer to process. I've tried googling it but read a lot of conflicting information. So would be ace if someone who knew what they were talking about could explain the difference between them.
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HDR+ = auto HDR. App will decide whether HDR is needed or not based on the situation.
HDR enhanced= HDR always on.
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My only complaint is the Noise and artifacts that it has. But I have yet to have a good phone that does well on that front. I think it is amazing what they are able to do with mostly software.
Just starting to realize how the camera in general has consistancy as well as always being snappy.
Also found that the selfie camera is actually usable. High Dynamic Range is awesome!
Portrait Mode is okay but looking closely shows mishaps around the edges of things, ears etc. But. Considering that [emoji624] mode works on both cameras as well as working with software as the main supplier of quality I'm really impressed. The Pixel 2 is starting to grow on me. And I've had both G6, S8, S7, S6, HTC 10, 6P, MI 5s pixel port, MI Mix 2.
I've uploaded some Pixel 2 photos from Berlin and Prague. Camera still amazing. Most of the photos were taken with HDR+ Enhanced (I've stopped using HDR+ after the first 1 or 2 days). (I took 1400 photos/videos in 2 weeks with the Pixel 2 and Nexus 6P).
Honestly, anyone who had a Nexus 5X, 6P, Pixel 1 shouldn't be really impressed with photo quality, as this HDR+ quality was already great since the Nexus 5 2013 was released and the easy-detail, and the resolution quality is more or less the same since the Nexus 5X/6P (I haven't used the N6).
Now the focus speed, HDR+ processing speed, camera launch speed, capture speed, video quality and stabilization, etc etc. Those are other things that really improved in each device upgrade IMO.
Pixel 2 samples:
https://imgur.com/a/5NNDB
Nexus 6P/5X samples:
https://imgur.com/a/TwJwd
Nexus 5 (2013) samples:
[The old 5 also had great quality, but the MP difference is quite noticeable compared to 5X/6P/Pixel/Pixel 2. That HDR+ camera was IMO still superb for 2013/2014/2015 years before the 5X/6P and other smartphones were released, I honestly had to sell a Z5 Compact because I was missing the Nexus 5 camera]
https://imgur.com/a/TEPCc
I didn't want to start a new thread.......can anyone comment on these (P1 vs P2). Notice that ISO on P1 is much higher and yet images look the same and in some when you zoom in Pixel 1 is less blurry and just a better quality overall
https://photos.app.goo.gl/FTyfRvJHxWAx38e93
nice shots @duckstardeluxe
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My beautiful wife. Love the photo quality, too!
kolyan said:
I didn't want to start a new thread.......can anyone comment on these (P1 vs P2). Notice that ISO on P1 is much higher and yet images look the same and in some when you zoom in Pixel 1 is less blurry and just a better quality overall
https://photos.app.goo.gl/FTyfRvJHxWAx38e93
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I dont see much difference. I even prefer pixel 1 photos in there so it make me wonder why so much praise and hype for camera of pixel 2 when its not much different to last generation pixel.
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My beautiful wife. Love the photo quality, too!
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You have a lovely wife
Our Chihuahua. HDR+ Enhanced. No flash. No edits.
I did zoom in and take screenshot.
Rajaasim1980 said:
I dont see much difference. I even prefer pixel 1 photos in there so it make me wonder why so much praise and hype for camera of pixel 2 when its not much different to last generation pixel.
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You have a lovely wife
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I ordered a replacement to see if my Pixel 2 is defective. Most indoor pictures I take with back camera come out better on Pixel 1
Made an album with the first two weeks of using the camera capabilities of the Pixel 2 https://photos.app.goo.gl/JCobMNrB58ZqlAQg2
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Is it worth upgrading from S6 Edge Plus to S8 only for camera?

Is it worth upgrading from S6 Edge Plus to S8 only for the camera quality photos?
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Yes
I had the s6 edge + and when it broke I wanted to trade for s8. the quality during the day does not change as much, but at night and for selfies the s8 was worth every penny.
Absolutely
yip, definite difference, especially in low light situations.
Only in low light there is more detail in the shots and a little more light. In good lightning conditions there is little to no difference in my opinion. I like the camera on my old S6 more. It takes pictures in full 16:9 ratio too and its better to be viewed on a widescreen after all! I am a bit disappointed with my S8 camera. The pics are 4:3 in full resolution and i have trouble focusing in low light scenarios on videos.... sometimes it refuses to focus correctly at all. At low light the pictures also comes out a little blurry at times and its hard to focus on a subject. When the focus is ok it is only ok in the spot that it focuses ...everything around is a little blurry.
For me it was not a clear upgrade! I miss my S6 camera to be fair.
If you need head to head comparison in the same condition do send me an PM and i will send you.
So You all agree that in NON-low light situations S6E+ and S8 pics quality will be the same are almost the same?
Tbh i was told the best camera is in the s7....
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I like the camera on my S6 more than my S8, HTC 11 or LG V30. I like the 16:9 aspect ratio at 16mp. I don't take extreme low light shots so the camera of the S6 is my favorite.
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I'd say no! The s6 has better amount of detail in good light. Think the 16 mega pixel allows for more cropping without degrading quality. The s8 also tends to overexpose pictures, and the noise reduction removes too much details. Very visible in skin tones in pics of faces. The s8 has better autofocus. You still get blur of moving subject in low light, because the slow shutter.
I'd wait for s9 if I were you for another 2 months than buy an s8 now.
linom said:
I'd wait for s9 if I were you for another 2 months than buy an s8 now.
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I considered that but I asked for S8 cause I have a lower price coupon for S8 lets say....

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