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After Rooting : what's your experience with the tablet so far

Now after many of you guys who could have the tablet already were able to root and remove your bloat , so after rooting and being able to customize your tablet and DPI etc. how is it with the tablet going for you ? Would appreciate you sharing your experience so far
p.s ... this baby will cost a solid 1000$ in my country for LTE model .

It's definitely more responsive after freezing a bunch of unnecessary (for me anyway) applications.
For me my primary reason for purchasing was for s-pen in a large form factor. Based on that I expected to just de-bloat and use stock s-pen applications. I have no interest in any other Android tablet at this time.
Question is sort of odd though; I wouldn't expect a lot of people to have gone through the hard decision of rooting such an expensive device and then say they felt it wasn't worth it.

muzzy996 said:
It's definitely more responsive after freezing a bunch of unnecessary (for me anyway) applications.
For me my primary reason for purchasing was for s-pen in a large form factor. Based on that I expected to just de-bloat and use stock s-pen applications. I have no interest in any other Android tablet at this time.
Question is sort of odd though; I wouldn't expect a lot of people to have gone through the hard decision of rooting such an expensive device and then say they felt it wasn't worth it.
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well its not that odd bc its not just about the money etc its about the whole experience etc and what could you get out of the tablet with the more real estate and i have seen some people regretting buying it etc. am a junior architect and i was waiting for something that big to use it with the s-pen too .. in my place you wouldn't be able to resell the tablet if you didn't like it or didn't get what you expect from it etc even i watched many reviews about it and sounds pretty interesting the limitations around me makes me have some concerns thats it

Right, my point is the "is it worth it" evaluation for a person who has rooted their device will have already occurred before rooting so of course you'll get more responses in the affirmative. I suppose it's not impossible that some will chime in to say that even after rooting it's unacceptable. ...perhaps odd is the wrong thing to say...just don't expect a majority of people who have rooted to tell you that they wish they hadn't.

muzzy996 said:
Right, my point is the "is it worth it" evaluation for a person who has rooted their device will have already occurred before rooting so of course you'll get more responses in the affirmative. I suppose it's not impossible that some will chime in to say that even after rooting it's unacceptable. ...perhaps odd is the wrong thing to say...just don't expect a majority of people who have rooted to tell you that they wish they hadn't.
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I get your point and edited the post of course we all root to get more out of the tablet
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the lag is the same! i remove some of the bloat and not freezing. and im using nova prime launcher.
i guess we need to wait for the dev to release some ROM
and by the way, why are you guys freezing your stuff when your knox is already tripped?

ad78 said:
and by the way, why are you guys freezing your stuff when your knox is already tripped?
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It's sometimes good to freeze (at least as a test-bed) because some apps no matter how innocuous they may seem could be an integrated part of the system. Removing them might break functionality within other apps or even the system itself. For example, on some systems if you remove the pre-installed file manager because you prefer another (Solid Explorer RULES!), it might break the Gallery app which could interfere with setting wallpapers even from other apps. That example - from my phone.

I want root to address the following things...
1. Remove multiwindow application restrictions
2. Use LMT or similar launcher for home, back, menu, etc.
3. Change the DPI (smaller icons, more real estate).
4. Backup/restore with Titanium Backup
5. freeze/remove system apps/bloat.
6. Install AOSP browser w/Flash

Rooting I noticed nothing different. I installed xposed and wanam to get the things I like. The main thing that changed was I lost the symbols on my keyboard. I can still get them by hitting the sym key, but can't long press the letter keys to get the symbol. It doesn't matter what language it's set to, they are not there.
Also, my video player developed an issue when it set to fullscreen. Lines through it and very choppy.
So I have un installed wanam and exposed, and video is normal, but still no symbols. Had them out of the box.
Thinking about Un rooting to see if it fixes the issue on the keyboard.
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rkirmeier said:
I want root to address the following things...
1. Remove multiwindow application restrictions
2. Use LMT or similar launcher for home, back, menu, etc.
3. Change the DPI (smaller icons, more real estate).
4. Backup/restore with Titanium Backup
5. freeze/remove system apps/bloat.
6. Install AOSP browser w/Flash
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4.4 will not support flash I've experienced. Let us know if you get that working.

You can get symbols back in wanam in security hacks and check secure keyboard

sthrnsprtsmn said:
You can get symbols back in wanam in security hacks and check secure keyboard
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I did try that with same results, I should have said that. I thought that would solve that too. With wanam and exposed uninstalled, I still can't get it back.

jackwagon06 said:
I did try that with same results, I should have said that. I thought that would solve that too. With wanam and exposed uninstalled, I still can't get it back.
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That's strange. I have Wanam installed and my keyboard is unchanged.

KestrelX said:
That's strange. I have Wanam installed and my keyboard is unchanged.
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Right.....I think it happened upon root. Didn't notice it right away. Root is the only thing left to try with out having to odin Stock and start again. I have removed wanam and still unable to get it back. Thanks for letting me know that it's possible with wanam though!
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Actually it's under system and enable keyboard symbols in wanam

sthrnsprtsmn said:
Actually it's under system and enable keyboard symbols in wanam
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Tried that as well. It should be enabled without wanam as well. As in Stock rooted. Not sure why I don't have it anymore
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jackwagon06 said:
Tried that as well. It should be enabled without wanam as well. As in Stock rooted. Not sure why I don't have it anymore
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Update: I reinstalled xposed before I Un rooted, which I will not be doing. Installed the alternate keyboard symbols module, and they are back. I'll try wanam again, but leave the current module running.
Thanks for all the suggestions! Back to the rooted fun.
Sent from my SM-P900 using Tapatalk

jackwagon06 said:
Rooting I noticed nothing different. I installed xposed and wanam to get the things I like. The main thing that changed was I lost the symbols on my keyboard. I can still get them by hitting the sym key, but can't long press the letter keys to get the symbol. It doesn't matter what language it's set to, they are not there.
Also, my video player developed an issue when it set to fullscreen. Lines through it and very choppy.
So I have un installed wanam and exposed, and video is normal, but still no symbols. Had them out of the box.
Thinking about Un rooting to see if it fixes the issue on the keyboard.
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4.4 will not support flash I've experienced. Let us know if you get that working.
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Got flash working using a modded flash.apk and Dolphin browser with jetpack. Works great!

muzzy996 said:
Right, my point is the "is it worth it" evaluation for a person who has rooted their device will have already occurred before rooting so of course you'll get more responses in the affirmative. I suppose it's not impossible that some will chime in to say that even after rooting it's unacceptable. ...perhaps odd is the wrong thing to say...just don't expect a majority of people who have rooted to tell you that they wish they hadn't.
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For me, personally, no device is "worth it" without root access. So, I guess you can put me down for a "worth it." An unrooted device just... feels... it just plain feels wrong, man. *shivers*

rkirmeier said:
Got flash working using a modded flash.apk and Dolphin browser with jetpack. Works great!
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Have any links to the modded files?
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jackwagon06 said:
Have any links to the modded files?
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http://forums.androidcentral.com/an...king-flash-player-dolphin-browser-kitkat.html

rkirmeier said:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/an...king-flash-player-dolphin-browser-kitkat.html
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Working like a champ! Thanks again
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Rooted

Ok now that we spent 20 bucks to get rooted. what's the sense? Its not letting programs write permissions. the whole point of Root I thought.:cyclops:

HOFFABALBOA said:
Ok now that we spent 20 bucks to get rooted. what's the sense? Its not letting programs write permissions. the whole point of Root I thought.:cyclops:
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Ad Away
Tethering
Greenify
Reboot apps
titanium backup

HOFFABALBOA said:
Ok now that we spent 20 bucks to get rooted. what's the sense? Its not letting programs write permissions. the whole point of Root I thought.:cyclops:
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You don't understand the difference b/t root, bootloader unlock and write protection.

This is ghetto root. Not the root you're used to with other moto phones.

HOFFABALBOA said:
Ok now that we spent 20 bucks to get rooted. what's the sense? Its not letting programs write permissions. the whole point of Root I thought.:cyclops:
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With all the other threads on this topic, you found the need to start another?

golgothagecko said:
This is ghetto root. Not the root you're used to with other moto phones.
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No...ghetto root is the one that must be applied every boot.

People are just never happy when something is given to them. It's sad how people can't understand what we have in front of us. calling this ghetto root is a low.

the_rooter said:
People are just never happy when something is given to them. It's sad how people can't understand what we have in front of us. calling this ghetto root is a low.
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To be fair, given =\= sold. Critiques are fine in their own topics IMO.

nvm....not worth it

adrynalyne said:
No...ghetto root is the one that must be applied every boot.
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Ghetto Root was also the name of the root method for the Verizon Note 2 too

GreaterLesser said:
Ghetto Root was also the name of the root method for the Verizon Note 2 too
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Well, if still on the Note 2, that IS pretty ghetto.

adrynalyne said:
Well, if still on the Note 2, that IS pretty ghetto.
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Haha no I'm still on stock DT gave my old Note 2 to my boss and he loves it.

I wonder if there's any use for busy box? I know it was needed to run safe strap on the galaxy s5.

djbling said:
I wonder if there's any use for busy box? I know it was needed to run safe strap on the galaxy s5.
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I think you need busybox for things like TB or xposed framework.

pnhst said:
I think you need busybox for things like TB or xposed framework.
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Got gravitybox module and TB working, its somewhere in these forums

Before Sunshine, one of the moto X (2013) root methods was a temporary root that still had WP on. Everytime you rebooted you basically had to start over, and I don't really recall anyone complaining to the point people are here, granted that was a free method. With this root method I have everything setup exactly the way I would want it and all of my settings stick after rebooting. To me, it was $20 well spent.
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BusyBox
Adaway
YouTube Adaway
APM+ (Advance power menu)
XQuietHours
GravityBox
Xstana (Lollipo Status Bar Icons)
Flat Style Colored Bars (Transparent Status Bar for all apps)

pjsockett said:
Before Sunshine, one of the moto X (2013) root methods was a temporary root that still had WP on. Everytime you rebooted you basically had to start over, and I don't really recall anyone complaining to the point people are here, granted that was a free method. With this root method I have everything setup exactly the way I would want it and all of my settings stick after rebooting. To me, it was $20 well spent.
Xposed
BusyBox
Adaway
YouTube Adaway
APM+ (Advance power menu)
XQuietHours
GravityBox
Xstana (Lollipo Status Bar Icons)
Flat Style Colored Bars (Transparent Status Bar for all apps)
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Oh my lord, please share your system image, that's like a perfect setup. I keep waiting for someone to upload a good one without a tether hack since I am not unlimited, and yours looks great.

pjsockett said:
Before Sunshine, one of the moto X (2013) root methods was a temporary root that still had WP on. Everytime you rebooted you basically had to start over, and I don't really recall anyone complaining to the point people are here, granted that was a free method. With this root method I have everything setup exactly the way I would want it and all of my settings stick after rebooting. To me, it was $20 well spent.
Xposed
BusyBox
Adaway
YouTube Adaway
APM+ (Advance power menu)
XQuietHours
GravityBox
Xstana (Lollipo Status Bar Icons)
Flat Style Colored Bars (Transparent Status Bar for all apps)
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No WiFi tether? Guess you aren't grandfathered in
Busy box would be nice!
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this_is_nascar said:
With all the other threads on this topic, you found the need to start another?
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He has special needs

pjsockett said:
Before Sunshine, one of the moto X (2013) root methods was a temporary root that still had WP on. Everytime you rebooted you basically had to start over, and I don't really recall anyone complaining to the point people are here, granted that was a free method. With this root method I have everything setup exactly the way I would want it and all of my settings stick after rebooting. To me, it was $20 well spent.
Xposed
BusyBox
Adaway
YouTube Adaway
APM+ (Advance power menu)
XQuietHours
GravityBox
Xstana (Lollipo Status Bar Icons)
Flat Style Colored Bars (Transparent Status Bar for all apps)
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Yea share your image. Love that setup.

Coronado is dead said:
Oh my lord, please share your system image, that's like a perfect setup. I keep waiting for someone to upload a good one without a tether hack since I am not unlimited, and yours looks great.
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Droidavie said:
No WiFi tether? Guess you aren't grandfathered in
Busy box would be nice!
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He has special needs
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trikotret said:
Yea share your image. Love that setup.
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I just used the Image from the Getting Xposed Working Thread, everything else is just xposed modules. It does have wifi tether, I am just on a business plan where tethering is included so I don't need it.
Edit: I was mistaken, I thought I had read the image had busybox installed but it does not. I hadn't even tried to use it to notice it wasn't there.

Sprint V20 bootloader status?

The title pretty much says it all. I'm on Sprint and I like this phone but I'm not going to get it if the bootloader is locked and/or it can't be rooted. Having ad blocking and Xposed on my phone are basic requirements for me to get one.
Would any kind soul please let me know?

I don't know, but if not anything with the bootloader would love a way to at least get a systemless root, does this sound like something that could even be possible?

It is locked as of now. Root may or may not come.
Get yourself Adguard and live happy. What do you want Xposed for?

I like root just to debloat.
I also like Titanium Backup as well

Yes. Adblocking and titbackup. Xposed would be nice though this phone needs less xposed modules for sure. I think. Lg got a lot of things right ootb.

Skripka said:
Get yourself Adguard and live happy. What do you want Xposed for?
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Is this a serious question? Have you used xposed be before? The YouTube ad blocking alone is worth it. Not to mention being able to tweak literally everything on the phone and basically have a custom ROM like experience without having to flash a new ROM over the stock one. Lets say i want to change the height of my navbar and make it pink instead of black. I can do all that with xposed. If you're asking why xposed is desirable you may as well be asking why customization is needed.

elsamuraiguapo said:
Is this a serious question? Have you used xposed be before? The YouTube ad blocking alone is worth it. Not to mention being able to tweak literally everything on the phone and basically have a custom ROM like experience without having to flash a new ROM over the stock one. Lets say i want to change the height of my navbar and make it pink instead of black. I can do all that with xposed. If you're asking why xposed is desirable you may as well be asking why customization is needed.
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Yes...and I quickly tired of broken functionality and instability and lack if support from devs on all sides
Solution...use SkyTube or other non crappy YouTube app

Skripka said:
Yes...and I quickly tired of broken functionality and instability and lack if support from devs on all sides
Solution...use SkyTube or other non crappy YouTube app
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Everyone has their own preferences and ways they live their life. I made this thread to inquire about a specific property of the software (thanks for your input on that), but not any advice on whether or not I should use it. Your advice is unsolicited and unwanted. Thanks.

Skripka said:
It is locked as of now. Root may or may not come.
Get yourself Adguard and live happy. What do you want Xposed for?
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Skripka said:
Yes...and I quickly tired of broken functionality and instability and lack if support from devs on all sides
Solution...use SkyTube or other non crappy YouTube app
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I've never had stability issues with any xposed modules. My previous device was the LG G4 and I used xposed to tweak the crap out of it and it was awesome. There is a reason why xposed is so popular go look at the xposed threads. Just cause you don't feel its necessary doesn't mean it has no value to other users. This is XDA developer's for godsakes i dont think encouraging people to be content with a stock device should even be allowed on this site. But thats my humble opinion.

REQUEST: Marshmallow ROM for Pixel XL

Sorry, didnt know what thread to post in.
Can someone compile a Marshmallow ROM for Pixel XL? Just so that we can run our beloved Xposed module, please? I can even donate few $ if that's the motivation.

ink718 said:
Sorry, didnt know what thread to post in.
Can someone compile a Marshmallow ROM for Pixel XL? Just so that we can run our beloved Xposed module, please? I can even donate few $ if that's the motivation.
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Highly doubt it would be possible unless someone puts in tremendous hours of work into this since the pixel came with nougat.
I just don't see some Dev putting hours into this just for xposed and for an obsolete version of Android.

ink718 said:
Sorry, didnt know what thread to post in.
Can someone compile a Marshmallow ROM for Pixel XL? Just so that we can run our beloved Xposed module, please? I can even donate few $ if that's the motivation.
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lol
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Lol not gonna happen.

Grrr that's a bummer. I'm still rocking my m8 due to no Xposed on Nougat. Only damn reason I have not activated my Pixel.
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ink718 said:
Grrr that's a bummer. I'm still rocking my m8 due to no Xposed on Nougat. Only damn reason I have not activated my Pixel.
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What do you need Xposed for so badly..?

Xposed isn't really needed for much anymore. I mean most stuff u can do on xposed you can do with root, or root app, or an app, or flashable zip. And MM not gonna happen like he said, wishful thinking, lol. We need an Android O ROM though ? once TWRP works on O.

ink718 said:
Sorry, didnt know what thread to post in.
Can someone compile a Marshmallow ROM for Pixel XL? Just so that we can run our beloved Xposed module, please? I can even donate few $ if that's the motivation.
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Generally speaking, such requests belong in the Q&A forum.
That stated, I can't imagine having the nerve to ask a question that starts with the words "can someone compile a ROM..."
In a word, this request should have never been made.
As others have mentioned, it's not likely someone can build a ROM based on an operating system that has never been available with this device.
Sent from my Pixel XL, #WhiteUIsMustDie, #EndDarkAppOppression

admiralspeedy said:
What do you need Xposed for so badly..?
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Hope you know there's a HUGE # of people not upgrading/flashing ROMs beyond Marshmallow due to Xposed not being compatible.
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Xposed isn't really needed for much anymore. I mean most stuff u can do on xposed you can do with root, or root app, or an app, or flashable zip. And MM not gonna happen like he said, wishful thinking, lol. We need an Android O ROM though ? once TWRP works on O.
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I have a few modules I need.
micmars said:
Generally speaking, such requests belong in the Q&A forum.
That stated, I can't imagine having the nerve to ask a question that starts with the words "can someone compile a ROM..."
In a word, this request should have never been made.
As others have mentioned, it's not likely someone can build a ROM based on an operating system that has never been available with this device.
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OK thanks MR.MODERATOR. I'll put a request in and hopefully they have the nerve to make you mod.
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ink718 said:
Hope you know there's a HUGE # of people not upgrading/flashing ROMs beyond Marshmallow due to Xposed not being compatible.
I have a few modules I need.
OK thanks MR.MODERATOR. I'll put a request in and hopefully they have the nerve to make you mod.
Sent from my m8whl using XDA-Developers Legacy app
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few modules you need... like?
wow...
just wow.

ink718 said:
Hope you know there's a HUGE # of people not upgrading/flashing ROMs beyond Marshmallow due to Xposed not being compatible.
I have a few modules I need.
OK thanks MR.MODERATOR. I'll put a request in and hopefully they have the nerve to make you mod.
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Wait, on the Pixel and Pixel XL devices? We had Marshmallow?

Yeah, there are SEVERAL xposed modules I miss very much.
They gave me options that you cannot find in any Nougat custom ROM.
I'd LOVE to see MarshMallow on Pixel but that's not going to happen.
NotifyClean and EnhancedToast are two that I miss the most, just off the top of my head.
But I had like 15-20 modules on MarshMallow and some are no longer needed but some I really miss.
I'd pay a lot of money just for NotifyClean alone. Nougat has a similar option built-in but it sucks badly in comparison to what NotifyClean can do.
I also liked the one for PlayStore that made PlayStore open directly to "my apps" instead of the main page.
App Settings, Expand Volume, Native Clipboard, CrappaLinks, APM+.
Then there were MANY modules that did clone of what custom ROM's offer. But by simply re-enabling the saved modules after clean flashing a new ROM, you saved a TON of time by not having to set each item individually in ROM settings. Like App Ops Exposed, GravityBox, Lock Screen Mods, etc.
I'd pay big money for App Settings also. Though it hasn't worked properly since Lollipop.

Jammol said:
Wait, on the Pixel and Pixel XL devices? We had Marshmallow?
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No. The earliest XL Firmware 7.1.0

y2grae said:
few modules you need... like?
wow...
just wow.
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you read that sarcastically as well? lol

CZ Eddie said:
Yeah, there are SEVERAL xposed modules I miss very much.
They gave me options that you cannot find in any Nougat custom ROM.
I'd LOVE to see MarshMallow on Pixel but that's not going to happen.
NotifyClean and EnhancedToast are two that I miss the most, just off the top of my head.
But I had like 15-20 modules on MarshMallow and some are no longer needed but some I really miss.
I'd pay a lot of money just for NotifyClean alone. Nougat has a similar option built-in but it sucks badly in comparison to what NotifyClean can do.
I also liked the one for PlayStore that made PlayStore open directly to "my apps" instead of the main page.
App Settings, Expand Volume, Native Clipboard, CrappaLinks, APM+.
Then there were MANY modules that did clone of what custom ROM's offer. But by simply re-enabling the saved modules after clean flashing a new ROM, you saved a TON of time by not having to set each item individually in ROM settings. Like App Ops Exposed, GravityBox, Lock Screen Mods, etc.
I'd pay big money for App Settings also. Though it hasn't worked properly since Lollipop.
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You can create a shortcut to the my apps page on your home screen by long pressing the play store, if that helps.

Some people posting to take up space to lash out. Obviously they don't know how great Xposed(swift knife for android) is and means to Android. Or they just idiots trying to gain credibility. Xposed owns!
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ink718 said:
Some people posting to take up space to lash out. Obviously they don't know how great Xposed(swift knife for android) is and means to Android. Or they just idiots trying to gain credibility. Xposed owns!
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Never needed Xposed, most Roms had what I wanted. To reach their own, some people love it and others don't care for it.

ink718 said:
Some people posting to take up space to lash out. Obviously they don't know how great Xposed(swift knife for android) is and means to Android. Or they just idiots trying to gain credibility. Xposed owns!
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I mean, I love xposed, and totally see where you're coming from, but calling others idiots isn't necessary..
I understand, its frustrating when you say "I like this feature, does anyone know how to port it?" But others respond with "I never needed it, therefore you shouldn't need it."
I liked xposed because I could get all my favorite lineage/cm features on any ROM I waa on.. I haven't seen a screen off, long press volume button seek tracks app to work on nougat. Macrodroid has gotten close, but not completely there.
Believe me, I kept my oneplus 3 on marshmallow for months after nougat rolled out because xposed. And here you are nearly a year out. But I think what might be a good option as well is to make a list of modules you use, post them, and see what apps others recommend.

Figure if the need was bad enough one would figure out how to port it themselves ?

pcriz said:
Figure if the need was bad enough one would figure out how to port it themselves ?
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Captain hindsight!! ??????

Downgrading to Android Oreo (Oxyegn OS 5.1.11)

I want to isntall Xposed, is there any way to downgrade to oreo on the oneplus 6t
thanks

maxsteelvishak said:
I want to isntall Xposed, is there any way to downgrade to oreo on the oneplus 6t
thanks
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This phone has never had Oreo, it was introduced with pie. You can't downgrade to something this phone has never had.

So much potential and its of no use since rooting is is worthless without xposed. I think we just settled

maxsteelvishak said:
So much potential and its of no use since rooting is is worthless without xposed. I think we just settled
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What Xposed mods do you need that aren't covered by magisk? Or just by flashing a simple zip file?

hartleyshc said:
What Xposed mods do you need that aren't covered by magisk? Or just by flashing a simple zip file?
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Device emulator pro , Fake GPS

Easy on the name calling. It was a legit question and we were all 'n00bZ once.
Be kind to each other.

Doesn't Magisk have an Xposed module? Also, stop cheating in Pokemon GO.

maxsteelvishak said:
Device emulator pro , Fake GPS
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Even on my previous OnePlus which was just rooted FakeGPS did what I needed it to do without any issues. I didn't even install it as a system app (so effectively was running a non-root mode). What's the issue with it that you need both root and Xposed tweaks on top of it to do what you need?
I just used it for when abroad on vacation in Europe to watch YouTube TV in the hotel (VPN+FakeGPS=win). :silly:

Nosferatu. said:
Even on my previous OnePlus which was just rooted FakeGPS did what I needed it to do without any issues. I didn't even install it as a system app (so effectively was running a non-root mode). What's the issue with it that you need both root and Xposed tweaks on top of it to do what you need?
I just used it for when abroad on vacation in Europe to watch YouTube TV in the hotel (VPN+FakeGPS=win). :silly:
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The issue is I need apps like Device emulator, device id changer , that run only with xposed, moreover there are certain apps that hide detection of fake gps and these apps also need the Xposed framework. Most of the high end rooting apps need Xposed, so root is nothing without xposed

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Even still, blaming the phone because it cannot help you out with a very specific niche need is a bit silly.
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I don't think you get it. Let me simplify it - Rooting for most users = Xposed, and the phone does not allow you to downgrade, therefore no Xposed, therefore no use rooting, therefore the phone popularity will decrease.. Simple ?

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This device was released with Pie and there would not be an Oreo release, atleast not official AFAIK. However there is a concept of virtual xposed floating around for Pie which is still in its initial stage so please allow some time for it to mature before we get something for Pie.
Everyone should know the forum rules so please go through them here. Lets keep the discussion on topic and avoid any personal comments.
Thank you for you understanding.
Funk

maxsteelvishak said:
I don't think you get it. Let me simplify it - Rooting for most users = Xposed, and the phone does not allow you to downgrade, therefore no Xposed, therefore no use rooting, therefore the phone popularity will decrease.. Simple ?
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I don't think that will affect popularity but ok. Still dont find the need for xposed, at least for me.

maxsteelvishak said:
I don't think you get it. Let me simplify it - Rooting for most users = Xposed, and the phone does not allow you to downgrade, therefore no Xposed, therefore no use rooting, therefore the phone popularity will decrease.. Simple ?
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No, not simple at all.
Very few people, possibly only you, expect to buy a flagship and then downgrade it. I find it silly to expect otherwise. My only advice would be to sell it and get a OP6.
Also, rooting for most users does not = xposed, stop talking in hyperbole. I've been rooting android devices since Gingerbread days (loved that OG Droid) and I rarely use xposed. The only time I ever use it is if I want to run AOSP and then I'll run GravityBox. Most everything else is usually covered by Magisk. I used to run xposed modules for ad blocking YouTube, now theres Vanced YouTube in Magisk, for example. Of course, this example is limited to my experience, but since we're talking in anecdotes evidently, I'll play along.
You do you booboo, get rid of the phone if you like, I just find it silly to fault the phone for your incredibly niche need.

maxsteelvishak said:
I don't think you get it. Let me simplify it - Rooting for most users = Xposed, and the phone does not allow you to downgrade, therefore no Xposed, therefore no use rooting, therefore the phone popularity will decrease.. Simple ?
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What he said below pretty much sums up my thoughts. I used root on previous devices for only a handful of very straightforward things (adblock, backup, and maybe a few other misc tweaks). I haven't used Xposed since Nougat and didn't really miss a few of the extras (like XPrivacy)
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No, not simple at all.
Very few people, possibly only you, expect to buy a flagship and then downgrade it. I find it silly to expect otherwise. My only advice would be to sell it and get a OP6.
Also, rooting for most users does not = xposed, stop talking in hyperbole. I've been rooting android devices since Gingerbread days (loved that OG Droid) and I rarely use xposed. The only time I ever use it is if I want to run AOSP and then I'll run GravityBox. Most everything else is usually covered by Magisk. I used to run xposed modules for ad blocking YouTube, now theres Vanced YouTube in Magisk, for example. Of course, this example is limited to my experience, but since we're talking in anecdotes evidently, I'll play along.
You do you booboo, get rid of the phone if you like, I just find it silly to fault the phone for your incredibly niche need.
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...too add to what he said if you feel you need all this "advanced" tinkering with Xposed + root why don't you develop a stable Xposed Pie build? Okay then...

Just a heads up for the people who say I'm the only one who wants xposed on android pie. Please visit
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/please-support-android-pie-9-0-sdk28-t3829625
and
https://github.com/rovo89/Xposed/issues/376

I'm not faulting you for wanting xposed. I was just saying it's silly to buy a flagship, and be aggravated that you can't downgrade.

https://github.com/M66B/XPrivacyLua/blob/master/README.md is a nice one to have, however it's worth waiting for

While I agree that Xposed is such an awesome thing, I have to also agree with others. A device that was never released with that particular version of Android will never have it. Best case would be to wait it out until Xposed pie comes out eventually, and I'm sure by then Android Q will be on this device and you'll be mad that Xposed Q won't be a thing. I personally don't use Xposed anymore because safety net is a priority for me, but yeah, it's a great mod for sure.

We've had xposed on pie for months.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/list-xposed-modules-android-pie-ed-t3892768