In front and back camera for portrait mode - Moto G4 Plus Questions & Answers

Nokia 6 and moto g4 plus both are work in stock android
In Nokia 6 Google camera to possible portrait mode
But moto g4 plus why can't install
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nokia-6/themes/google-camera-hdr-portrait-selfie-t3733577
Please dev work camera

Portrait mode not only needs software but also a hardware support! The processor support is needed.. The processors used might be different! Also, I haven't seen the ROM of Nokia 6... For portrait mode the ROM needs to be 64bit.
Google camera's portrait mode is made for pixel 2..look at its specs and the processor and the camera hardware it carries.
I don't know about Nokia 6's config so won't be able to comment exactly the difference.
But please don't ask devs to do something. They provide stuff for free and they know what to provide when! They do it in their free time hence the delay. We all have out lives apart from this forum!
You can use lens blurr in google camera for now it works in the same way.

abhi212b said:
Portrait mode not only needs software but also a hardware support! The processor support is needed.. The processors used might be different! Also, I haven't seen the ROM of Nokia 6... For portrait mode the ROM needs to be 64bit.
Google camera's portrait mode is made for pixel 2..look at its specs and the processor and the camera hardware it carries.
I don't know about Nokia 6's config so won't be able to comment exactly the difference.
But please don't ask devs to do something. They provide stuff for free and they know what to provide when! They do it in their free time hence the delay. We all have out lives apart from this forum!
You can use lens blurr in google camera for now it works in the same way.
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Nokia 6 processor (snapdragon 430) cheap than moto g4 plus
Both device camera similar
And this Gcam work on aosp stock android of Nokia 6. Why not work in moto g4 plus

j€nish said:
Nokia 6 processor (snapdragon 430) cheap than moto g4 plus
Both device camera similar
And this Gcam work on aosp stock android of Nokia 6. Why not work in moto g4 plus
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It also doesn't help that on oreo, we don't have a stable camera.
Remember that even if the phone had the same CPU the implementation could be completely different and would require separate methods of porting.
The Pixel 2 features of GCAM is designed to be only used on the, guess what? The Pixel 2. The community has ported over the features to work on many devices but it is not designed to run on all devices.
We might even have to wait for the official release of stock oreo, please be patient and see.

Agreed with the above post. as far as i know, Gcam works effectively on 64 bit ROM with camera2api and Oreo. We still do not have official Oreo neither do we have oreo camera drivers to support it.

Why Google camera is working on Moto g5 plus and not on Moto g4 plus since both have ported 64bit ROM

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OnePlus 3T vs LeEco Le Pro 3 Camera comparison - Why there is huge difference?

Hi guys. I ordered yesterday X720 variant (4GB/32GB gold) from banggod under flash sale (cost me 192 USD) and I cannot wait it to be delivered to me..
So after that, I started some re-search, especially regarding the camera performance and I found out that Le Pro3 actually has ALMOST the same camera sensor like OnePlus 3T, apart from OIS?
OnePlus 3T has a 16MP Type 1/2.8" Sony IMX298 sensor with f/2.0 aperture lens which is the same (correct me if I am wrong) in Le Pro 3. But OnePlus 3T takes really good and better photos in any environment(good light or low light) if to be compared to LePro 3...
So, can we say that OIS and maybe better rom/software in OP3T makes the difference or what? Or LePro 3 has a potential to takes better photos with some custom ported roms or ported camera apps and come closer to quality of OP3T?
I am sorry, if this or a similar thing had already been talked before here. It will be great to hear your comments and opinions.
Have a nice day/week for all!
If you are running it on Stock ROM, try Google Camera 2.7.10 via https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/camera/camera-2-7-010-release/
Le Pro 3 has even better IQ than iPhone 7 just so you know. =D
If custom ROM and especially nougat-based, there is a patched version of latest Google Camera with HDR+ enabled.
When it comes to mobile cameras, it's almost always the imaging processing that makes or breaks a photo quality.
OP3/T does share same hardware specs of the camera lens and sensors with the exception of OIS, but it is the software itself that determines how an image is to be processed.
Samsung, LG, HTC, Apple basically spends a lot of their R&D budget on the imaging software, because camera qualities are synonymous with quality of the phone.
OnePlus did spend fairly large amount of development into their camera software, and it is very good. OiS helps, of course, but image quality itself is determined via software.
When you're using Google Camera, the game changes, however. Since Google Camera does not use OiS even if you have it, it won't be an advantage with OP3/T. Theoretically, the image when using two identical camera app would be very very similar.
Joms_US said:
If you are running it on Stock ROM, try Google Camera 2.7.10 via https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/camera/camera-2-7-010-release/
Le Pro 3 has even better IQ than iPhone 7 just so you know. =D
If custom ROM and especially nougat-based, there is a patched version of latest Google Camera with HDR+ enabled.
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Thank you. What about this one? Are they not the same apps or different?
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...mera-3-2-045-2821762-30-android-apk-download/
SUMMERBREEZE said:
Thank you. What about this one? Are they not the same apps or different?
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/googl...mera-3-2-045-2821762-30-android-apk-download/
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So far 2.7.01 is the only one that works on Stock ROM.
Joms_US said:
If you are running it on Stock ROM, try Google Camera 2.7.10 via https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/camera/camera-2-7-010-release/
Le Pro 3 has even better IQ than iPhone 7 just so you know. =D
If custom ROM and especially nougat-based, there is a patched version of latest Google Camera with HDR+ enabled.
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rickyoon.vegas said:
When it comes to mobile cameras, it's almost always the imaging processing that makes or breaks a photo quality.
OP3/T does share same hardware specs of the camera lens and sensors with the exception of OIS, but it is the software itself that determines how an image is to be processed.
Samsung, LG, HTC, Apple basically spends a lot of their R&D budget on the imaging software, because camera qualities are synonymous with quality of the phone.
OnePlus did spend fairly large amount of development into their camera software, and it is very good. OiS helps, of course, but image quality itself is determined via software.
When you're using Google Camera, the game changes, however. Since Google Camera does not use OiS even if you have it, it won't be an advantage with OP3/T. Theoretically, the image when using two identical camera app would be very very similar.
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I just didnt want to open a new thread for this question.
Does stock rom (EUI 5.9 , Marshmallow) supports cam2api? So we can use footej camera, open camera etc?

Oneplus camera on the Le Pro 3 x720?

I am planning to buy the Le Pro 3 x720 and customise it to have a oneplus 3 experience.
The LEx720 and OP3 has the same camera sensor and almost same processor (snapdragon 821 for LEx720 & snapdragon 820 for OP3)
kimovilDOTcom/en/compare/leeco-le-pro-3-6gb-64gb,oneplus-3-6gb-64gb-cn
Yet the x720 camera reviews are less positive in comparison to the OP3. I guess its the processing.
1. So has someone ever tried the Oneplus camera on the LEx720?
apkmirrorDOTcom/apk/oneplus-ltd/oneplus-camera/
2. Is it possible to have some samples comparison please, especially against the google camera?
My alternative choice would be the Meizu M6 Note which boasts the same camera as the HTC U11 and it's working pretty great with its Arcsoft algorithm.
3. Based solely on camera, can the LEx720 deliver a better image quality than the Meizu M6 Note?
I would really appreciate your views.
Thank you all in advance.
I wouldn't say you're guaranteed to get a Sony sensor. Some people here are reporting that their camera isn't working on custom ROMs like Paranoid Android--which means that they have a different camera sensor (I believe custom ROMs for the Pro3 variants are built with Sony drivers, but IDK). The OnePlus 3 camera is miles better than the Pro3 camera simply because OnePlus bothers to put good camera software on their phones. Not iPhone-quality, but definitely up there. When it comes to cameras, software is a lot more important, IMO. That's why the iPhone 6's camera quality holds up today, even though the phone was released in 2014. Name a single Android phone from 2014 with good camera quality today...
You are not guaranteed good camera quality from Chinese phones. Some Chinese brands claim to make this a priority, but reviews don't lie. Now, Camera2 API may improve quality, but it really depends. Camera2 API has done wonders for variants of the Xiaomi Note 4 stuck with the inferior Omnivision sensor. It's done even more for variants with Sony and Samsung sensors. And I expect it does well for the Pro3 too, since the Pro3 has a chipset with good image processing. Do your research. Look around the forum and search for camera mods. See if you like the results or not. Camera2 API requires you to root your phone.
Sorry, but if you want a flagship-worthy camera experience, you either buy an iPhone 7, 8, or X, a Samsung S8 or Note 8, an OP3T or OP5, or a Pixel phone. Pixel phones have the best smartphone cameras in the market right now, especially the Pixel 2, since it has dedicated hardware for it. I can't think of any other phones that take excellent images no matter where you are or what you're doing. With other brands you'll have to either a) make sure there's enough lighting, b) be in the right place at the right time, or c) do a lot of manual post-processing, which ruins image quality.
I'm okay with my x722's image quality. It takes good shots in sunlight. Low-light performance is awful. Pretty typical experience. I don't know which sensor I have, though. I'd have to be rooted to find that out.
The Meizu M6 Note has a better sensor. Even if its camera software is awful, it's bound to be better. LeEco doesn't even try with its camera app, so Meizu has to be better.
sk8223 said:
I wouldn't say you're guaranteed to get a Sony sensor. Some people here are reporting that their camera isn't working on custom ROMs like Paranoid Android--which means that they have a different camera sensor (I believe custom ROMs for the Pro3 variants are built with Sony drivers, but IDK). The OnePlus 3 camera is miles better than the Pro3 camera simply because OnePlus bothers to put good camera software on their phones. Not iPhone-quality, but definitely up there. When it comes to cameras, software is a lot more important, IMO. That's why the iPhone 6's camera quality holds up today, even though the phone was released in 2014. Name a single Android phone from 2014 with good camera quality today...
You are not guaranteed good camera quality from Chinese phones. Some Chinese brands claim to make this a priority, but reviews don't lie. Now, Camera2 API may improve quality, but it really depends. Camera2 API has done wonders for variants of the Xiaomi Note 4 stuck with the inferior Omnivision sensor. It's done even more for variants with Sony and Samsung sensors. And I expect it does well for the Pro3 too, since the Pro3 has a chipset with good image processing. Do your research. Look around the forum and search for camera mods. See if you like the results or not. Camera2 API requires you to root your phone.
Sorry, but if you want a flagship-worthy camera experience, you either buy an iPhone 7, 8, or X, a Samsung S8 or Note 8, an OP3T or OP5, or a Pixel phone. Pixel phones have the best smartphone cameras in the market right now, especially the Pixel 2, since it has dedicated hardware for it. I can't think of any other phones that take excellent images no matter where you are or what you're doing. With other brands you'll have to either a) make sure there's enough lighting, b) be in the right place at the right time, or c) do a lot of manual post-processing, which ruins image quality.
I'm okay with my x722's image quality. It takes good shots in sunlight. Low-light performance is awful. Pretty typical experience. I don't know which sensor I have, though. I'd have to be rooted to find that out.
The Meizu M6 Note has a better sensor. Even if its camera software is awful, it's bound to be better. LeEco doesn't even try with its camera app, so Meizu has to be better.
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Different camera sensor? Has there been a case? Doing so would be nightmare for device maintenance and unless it is a large scale company with a model that gets sold huge quantities (Samsung and Apple), it would just be a unnecessary headache without any benefit. Camera not working on certain custom roms does not indicate different sensor. Far from it. A missing or extra line on device tree or even in build.prop would cause it.
It is true that camera sucks on most of Chinese phones. They've got the hardware but unless you're shooting RAW, end result will be very poor.
However, that was the case before Google HDR+ port. That port makes dramatic different. No reason to use OnePlus camera when OnePlus users are rooting for Google HDR+.
4K2K said:
Different camera sensor? Has there been a case? Doing so would be nightmare for device maintenance and unless it is a large scale company with a model that gets sold huge quantities (Samsung and Apple), it would just be a unnecessary headache without any benefit. Camera not working on certain custom roms does not indicate different sensor. Far from it. A missing or extra line on device tree or even in build.prop would cause it.
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Is that so? Sorry, I didn't know that. I thought it strange that the camera would work on ROMs installed on some devices but not others.
It is true that camera sucks on most of Chinese phones. They've got the hardware but unless you're shooting RAW, end result will be very poor.
However, that was the case before Google HDR+ port. That port makes dramatic different. No reason to use OnePlus camera when OnePlus users are rooting for Google HDR+.
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Yeah, Gcam changed everything. Now phones with the worst sensors get decent shots, even at night.

Google Camera Port for Moto Z2 Play

Hello Sirs, I would like to call everyone who has an interest in having the portability of Google Camera with the maximum possible resources, for our beloved Moto Z2 Play device, both developers to generate this compatibility as the sponsors in form of donation to these developers by the job.
I contacted @Arnova8G2 who is currently the main developer of such compatibility with more smartphones.
He asked to run the test with the Camera2 Test application, in which I am attaching the report here in this post.
I would like the manifesto of all those interested in being willing to make donations and to the developers who proposes the possibility of bringing this feature to Moto Z2 Play.
Camera2 Test Resume:
OS Version: 3.18.71-perf-g554d879(26)
OS API Level: 8.0.0(26)
Device: albus
Model (and Product): Moto Z2 Play (albus)
I am in !
Me too
Iam also very much interested
I want
I think everyone want it... But we have ARM Oreo... Gcam need ARM64
Actually Moto Z2 Play has no Camera2 implemented, so I think it won't be possible.
At least not on stock ROMs.
Eager to ee
Any update on this made??
Just download Google camera version 2.7 from apkmirror. Works fine. 360 images and all.
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/camera/camera-2-7-008-release/
Does this mean I get the donation, lol?
In the ResorectionRemix rom have a google apk camera modifiet for our sensor.
But the apk is little outdated. We need some one to modify the new version whit fixed autofocus.
larsdennert said:
Just download Google camera version 2.7 from apkmirror. Works fine. 360 images and all.
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/camera/camera-2-7-008-release/
Does this mean I get the donation, lol?
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This version is very old from 2015 if I'm not mistaken. Versions 3 4 and 5 have already popped up so it seems an updated modded version would not hurt
I use the 360 mode only. If the new version has some other features I'd be curious. I use my stock camera app for most pics.
larsdennert said:
Just download Google camera version 2.7 from apkmirror. Works fine. 360 images and all.
https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/camera/camera-2-7-008-release/
Does this mean I get the donation, lol?
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That camera won't have the HDR+ which is what is meant by porting Gcam. I posted in the apps thread today one that has HDR+ and is ported for 32bit.
Google camera 6.1 (pixel 3) working relatively stable.
Thanks to the developer san1ty.
Download here (last version)
- Use the app configured as it comes.
- Only change HDR min and max frames to 28 (36 may be too much for our cpu, i had fc's).
- The night sight mode only will work on devices up to 3gb of ram memory.
Bugs: camera does not focus and save pictures (in normal -no HDR- mode)
Tested on a Moto z2 play (albus) running lineageos 15.1.
Obviously requires 64 bit OS (only custom roms)
im using moto z2 play. so as i am.

Installing Google pixel 2 camera software and algorithm in Moto G5 plus

Hi all,
The Moto G5 plus has a rear camera of f/1.7 with 12 MP where as the best camera of Google pixel 2 has f/1.8 with 12.2 MP.
My question is it possible to install the Google AI software, algorithm and coding in the Moto G5 plus? If possible, how? If not, then, what will be the best camera app to use in Moto G5 plus? As the specs are pretty same but the coding, algorithm and software difference is a big deal. May be with the same camera of the G5 plus will take excellent photos using the Google AI software.
May be Im asking question like a fool but because I wanted too know.
In the comparing videos and reviews between Pixel 2 and galaxy S9 I have understood that the google camera software is a special one. With the google algorithm a smartphone may not need two cameras and lower aperture too. The lower aperture of f/2.4 with 8 MB of Pixel 2 does not stop taking best shots than any other phones because of the software. Where as the Moto G5 front camera has f/2.2 with 5 MB. But there are other factors like shutter speed, dual pixel etc. but I want to install the camera app in Pixel into G5 plus.
Can not post the links of specs as Im as new member.
Just install pixel ported camera app by arnova to get better photos nd portrait photos from your moto g5 plus.
First you need to flash a 64bit rom
Because google camera doesnt work on 32bit
And install google camera the ported one by arnova or other version.

Proposal to solve the problem of the camera in Oreo ROMs

I just have an idea. And I want to post it here and find if it is possible.
I understand that Moto Z Play has the same camera lens as the Moto G4 Plus.
They have a rear camera OmniVision OV16860, and a front camera OminVision OV5693.
With that said, they share the same hardware in terms of camera.
Is there any way to port the Oreo camera drivers from the Moto Z Play to our devices?
Anybody has tried this?
Thanks.
From the many posts I've read in the forum, the camera issue is connected to our chipset and not the camera hardware. The snapdragon 617 is a pretty sh*tty chipset and all the devices that use them have pretty much zero development and vendor support. I guess those guys are all waiting for athene to get Oreo. Guess we're out of luck. BTW correct me if I'm wrong. At least this'll serve as a bump to this thread.
I Found the perfect combination for a smoth Pie Rom with a totally fast an functionally camera (photos and video) no lag and instant functionally gestures (even instant Chop chop for flash light!)
I am so happy about it!
Since I installed Oreo ROMs I was suffering cause I couldn't use the camera properly and some other functions of my Moto g4+.
I had read that because Qualcomm 617 chipset has very little attention from official developers then the camera shows incompatibilitys and then works wrong in custom ROMs (even in stock rom soak 8.1)
In January 14th they published AOSIP (https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo.../rom-android-source-illusion-project-t3889942)
In combination of this great Rom and a zip I found to flash in TWRP of Moto camera 2 (https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/themes/pixel-gapps-rom-t3731231 - find the Moto camera 2 download link) I accomplished what I was trying since I installed Oreo in my device...
This camera probably works in any arm64 Rom... But I love AOSIP so far and that's what I have Install to experiment with the camera zip)
Off course the world isn't perfect so I can't paste url Chrome links in lawnchair (AOSIP it's probably based in some Rom with that problem... Some of then have it and some of them not) but I can live without it for today.
So if you're frustrated because the camera issue of Moto g4 plus... This solve it!
Asus Camera port is also useful. No green images!

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