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hi to all, i just read this notice on miui forum
[ ........***Kernel source***
As we previously announced, we are going to release the kernel source for all future phones within three months of the device’s launch. In line with that schedule, we’ll be releasing the Redmi Note 4g kernel source by January 31st which is ~30 days after our launch.
We’re still committed to releasing the Mi 3 and Redmi Note 3g kernel source by March.
***MIUI 6***
MIUI 6 for Redmi Note 4g and Mi 3 will go to go into open beta testing in a few weeks. As mentioned last week, we’re planning to update the Redmi 1s to MIUI 6 in March around the same time as the China version. .....]
good news for us...
Fantastic, thanks for sharing. :good:
kront said:
hi to all, i just read this notice on miui forum
[ ........***Kernel source***
we’ll be releasing the Redmi Note 4g kernel source by January 31st which is ~30 days after our launch.
good news for us...
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Yes good News indeed. but are there active devs for note 4g .. tuxboy is only one struggling alone.
Hi all,
Was hoping for some advice, want to buy this redmi note 2 for $130 new vs a older lg g2 for $140 , the redmi note 2 looks great and has decent developer support but the g2 has a tonne of support but is a touch more expensive (802) version and a few years older.... Which would be a wise budget buy do you think for a year or 2 into the future ? Screen size etc and build quality don't matter as much as the dev support
Thank you
If you had said "LG G4", I would have no doubt, but regarding G2...
It truly depends on your expectations. I got the Note 2 hoping Xiaomi would be the cure to all evils, regarding chinese phones. I got it wrong, even if the phone is still a bomb.
However, in practical terms, the answer to your question is in the title of your post: it's a 2013 phone. Outdated from the start.
LG G4 is way more expensive than $140 , the G2 is still having tonnes of dev support has CM13 , remember its a nexus5 but with bigger screen
Why do u think the redmi note 2 is a bomb ??
zerodi said:
LG G4 is way more expensive than $140 , the G2 is still having tonnes of dev support has CM13 , remember its a nexus5 but with bigger screen
Why do u think the redmi note 2 is a bomb ??
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Some people love the Note 2. For me it was OK. The Helio X10 chip isn't amazing, its A53 low powered cores but overclocked to 2/2.2Ghz. It also seems to be power hungry when in use.
I still wouldn't go with LG G2 though as its getting quite old. Perhaps get a G3 in the used market or consider getting the OnePlus X. Redmi Note 2 is an absolute No-no if you care about dev support and custom ROMs. Xiaomi hasn't released the kernel source and probably never will. All ROMs use stock kernel so they are limited in what they can do / bug fixing where you need kernel support.
Also I am liking the look of the Xiaomi Redmi 3 with its snapdragon 616 chip. But I will keep my distance from Xiaomi until they start releasing source code. I am a custom ROM addict like you, I love CM and that's what makes Xiaomi phones a no go, unless its the MI3 or MI4 which have full CM13 support.
I have both LG G2 and Redmi Note 2. I prefer Redmi Note 2.
BadDriver said:
I have both LG G2 and Redmi Note 2. I prefer Redmi Note 2.
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It would be helpful to know your reasons.
Xiaomi is faste in daily use and it has a better camera and cpu. Lg has a slighty better contrast, but you see the difference only if you put them next to each other.
I have a One plus one so I went with a Lg g2 for a smaller size phone , development is much better and if its as fast as my nexus 5 then that is fine for my daily use I'll come back to look at redmi note 2 or 3 when one gets a marshmallow ROM
There is still an option for you to choose redmi note 2 now, but in the near future when xiaomi has locked redmi note 2 bootloader you should reconsider your decision. It means no custom rom for you. Theoritically there is an option to unlock this phone, but the proccess practically not easy, unless you only use custom rom from the day you buy it..
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Yeah , actually if buying from aliexpress the note 2's come with the international ROM preinstalled so I'm guessing that's the ok ones that u can flash ROMs with as their bootloaders not locked yet
It all depends on whether you are happy to stick with the manufacturer's firmwares. If so, then go for the Redmi Note 2.
For my part, the next time I get an Android phone, I'll get one with a Snapdragon chipset, because developer support is far better with Snapdragon. For that reason, if I were you, I would go for the LG.
DarthJabba9 said:
It all depends on whether you are happy to stick with the manufacturer's firmwares. If so, then go for the Redmi Note 2.
For my part, the next time I get an Android phone, I'll get one with a Snapdragon chipset, because developer support is far better with Snapdragon. For that reason, if I were you, I would go for the LG.
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A couple of you have been critical of Xiaomi as being the best choice among Chinese options. I'd be interested to hear who your preferred Chinese manufacturer is. Lenovo and Elephone would be even easier to criticise. I guess that leaves Letv and Meizu.
Pumpino said:
A couple of you have been critical of Xiaomi as being the best choice among Chinese options. I'd be interested to hear who your preferred Chinese manufacturer is. Lenovo and Elephone would be even easier to criticise. I guess that leaves Letv and Meizu.
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TBH, I'm not sure whether the difficulty is with Xiaomi or Mediatek, so it is not clear who to criticise. The bottom line is that opensource kernel sources have to be released, but are not being released. Nobody is really interested in "whose fault" this is - and perhaps "they" have what appears to "them" to be good reasons (e.g., untidy or poor coding hacks, backdoors introduced, etc., or whatever) for not releasing the kernel sources. The fact is that the lack of kernel sources hampers development efforts, and perpetuates any errors, unimaginativeness, poor coding, etc., that may be in the firmwares. So Snapdragon it will be in future. There are Xiaomi phones with Snapdragon chipsets, so this is not intrinsically about Xiaomi.
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TBH, I'm not sure whether the difficulty is with Xiaomi or Mediatek, so it is not clear who to criticise. The bottom line is that opensource kernel sources have to be released, but are not being released. Nobody is really interested in "whose fault" this is - and perhaps "they" have what appears to "them" to be good reasons (e.g., untidy or poor coding hacks, backdoors introduced, etc., or whatever) for not releasing the kernel sources. The fact is that the lack of kernel sources hampers development efforts, and perpetuates any errors, unimaginativeness, poor coding, etc., that may be in the firmwares. So Snapdragon it will be in future. There are Xiaomi phones with Snapdragon chipsets, so this is not intrinsically about Xiaomi.
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Actually other producers released helio x10 kernel source,HTC is an example,so it's xiaomi's fault
I am sure they will release sources in the future...
andrea210701 said:
Actually other producers released helio x10 kernel source,HTC is an example,so it's xiaomi's fault
I am sure they will release sources in the future...
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This may be a silly question but is it possible to use HTC sources to build a kernel for rn2? Cause xiaomi didn't release sources for mi3 and mi4 yet there are custom kernels for this devices
chrzaszczwtrzcinie said:
This may be a silly question but is it possible to use HTC sources to build a kernel for rn2? Cause xiaomi didn't release sources for mi3 and mi4 yet there are custom kernels for this devices
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Xiaomi's hardware is different to htc's hardware. Camera, sensors, display ecc ecc are not the same
~ Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 Prime ~
andrea210701 said:
Actually other producers released helio x10 kernel source,HTC is an example,so it's xiaomi's fault
I am sure they will release sources in the future...
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they will never release source, cause they have never releaseed source for any mtk devices, only qcomm
g2 is a better choice if u wont keep it stock, else go for one which is cheaper
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Cause xiaomi didn't release sources for mi3 and mi4 yet there are custom kernels for this devices
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Are you sure?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-3/general/kernel-sources-hugo-barra-update-t2900843
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource
algida79 said:
Are you sure?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-3/general/kernel-sources-hugo-barra-update-t2900843
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource
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Well seems that I was wrong... But this means xiaomi releases kernel sources and there still is hope for us
Hi,
I'm maybe not the first one to do it but I made a petition about Huawei/Honor not giving source code of Honor 7. Honor published the source code of Honor 5 but why not H7? We need Driver Sources, otherwise devs won't be able to develop ROMs.
If you can share it, we'll get more signatures
It's available here
Counter: 13
Thank you, Nex
Maybe it would be more effektive if you d be more specific about what they habe to Release.. they ve allredy released the Kernel sources, but the Thing that is Missing and is elementary for Rom devs are the Driver sources..
It's not very likely they'll release the driver code.
Just remember that it took several years for Xiaomi to release source code...
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Hi,
I'm maybe not the first one to do it but I made a petition about Huawei/Honor not giving source code of Honor 7. Honor published the source code of Honor 5 but why not H7? We need Driver Sources, otherwise devs won't be able to develop ROMs.
If you can share it, we'll get more signatures
It's available here
Counter: 13
Thank you, Nex
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Source codes are already published by the Honor, so please stop making petitions, and as far as the ROMs are concerned, we need a solid device tree, on which some devs are working on to make it possible.
So I kindly request you to not make this kind of threads from now on asking for source codes from Honor for Honor 7, as they are already released.
You can take a look at it here, this thing spitted out the DigiKernel v1.1
DigiGoon said:
Source codes are already published by the Honor, so please stop making petitions, and as far as the ROMs are concerned, we need a solid device tree, on which some devs are working on to make it possible.
So I kindly request you to not make this kind of threads from now on asking for source codes from Honor for Honor 7, as they are already released.
You can take a look at it here, this thing spitted out the DigiKernel v1.1
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At least it's clear now ! Thanks
Nexx_ said:
At least it's clear now ! Thanks
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No worries mate, always here to help.
jerryhou85 said:
Just remember that it took several years for Xiaomi to release source code...
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Gave away my Mi2s. But I still like the other gadgets I own from Xiaomi.
The development of Miui is unbearable. It´s bugs after bugs and locked boots. And support for older devices is short to nonexistent, they tend to abandon old models too soon.
What about translations made by 3rd party volunteers? And noncoherent update policy?
A nightmare that resulted in the loss of massive market share. They were once the biggest Chinese phone brand but now are 4th or 5th.
Miui is a very good idea badly executed.
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Gave away my Mi2s. But I still like the other gadgets I own from Xiaomi.
The development of Miui is unbearable. It´s bugs after bugs and locked boots. And support for older devices is short to nonexistent, they tend to abandon old models too soon.
What about translations made by 3rd party volunteers? And noncoherent update policy?
A nightmare that resulted in the loss of massive market share. They were once the biggest Chinese phone brand but now are 4th or 5th.
Miui is a very good idea badly executed.
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Indeed, at the beginning they grab quite a market share by MIUI, then release its own low budget phones, that was totally a hit in China market. After that, other companies like HUAWEI, MEIZU, OnePlus and others find the same gold mine and do their own jobs. Without much patents or "hardcore" fans, Xiaomi falls down quickly.
jerryhou85 said:
Indeed, at the beginning they grab quite a market share by MIUI, then release its own low budget phones, that was totally a hit in China market. After that, other companies like HUAWEI, MEIZU, OnePlus and others find the same gold mine and do their own jobs. Without much patents or "hardcore" fans, Xiaomi falls down quickly.
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They actually boasted a lot their products were bottom up and they had engineers listening to consumers in forums to incorporate their suggestions into future releases. Oh how consumers complained for several months for fixes that they never delivered.
So Huawei it's very good in comparison, just need to fix/optimize MM fast charge, battery in 4G and multiusers.
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They actually boasted a lot their products were bottom up and they had engineers listening to consumers in forums to incorporate their suggestions into future releases. Oh how consumers complained for several months for fixes that they never delivered.
So Huawei it's very good in comparison, just need to fix/optimize MM fast charge, battery in 4G and multiusers.
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HUAWEI starts to provide "powerful" phones since last year, from Honor 3C, 4X and so on. It looks like the first years of Xiaomi, hope HUAWEI can make this trend last longer and provide a long support period for its devices. If not, open source its kernel and let developers and fans to have a longer life of a phone with decent hardware.
What the tittle says
Yes there is, we'll get it in 2 months period.
Any ideas why so long? Sony already got it and they are skinned as well as others are close behind like Samsung with their beta tests and htc why is this one taking so long to push since it is almost pure?
tixooo said:
Any ideas why so long? Sony already got it and they are skinned as well as others are close behind like Samsung with their beta tests and htc why is this one taking so long to push since it is almost pure?
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Sony have a much bigger dev team, plus sony has a large community of devs and testers that work for free since they release all their code to open source.
But is this not like the purest of Android ... On paper it should be just plug test and play for the A1?
In principle, yes. But I going by the apparent fact that Google isn't in charge of software but xiaomi is, my guess is that is the reason why there is no oreo yet...
I presume. I've heard good things for this company let's see how this phone will hold up to what people say
I think that the Andorid One topic is quite new for them (too) and they just have to collect their experience first so I'm pretty sure for the following updates they will get more and more routine so this is just the beginning....
With Android One, doesn't Google control the OS updates like in Pixel. We get security fixes along with Pixel
Android one suppose to be the first device after pixel and nexus to get Oreo.
Devices are getting beta version or something of Oreo.
And we are just waiting ,
Don't want to rush anything but atleast a official comment on the Oreo for android one would be grate...
They says by the end of this year,its mean December,calm down
I have a friend working in Mi China and he says their Target is indeed for December 2017. So let's just all chill out till then.
From what I guess Google isn't really controlling the updates of mi a1. STOCK android doesn't support capacitive nav bars and a IR sensor too. Moreover there are dual cameras on this phone. So mi has to so tweaks to accommodate all this. That's why it must be taking some time.
sooti said:
Sony have a much bigger dev team, plus sony has a large community of devs and testers that work for free since they release all their code to open source.
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In principle, yes. But I going by the apparent fact that Google isn't in charge of software but xiaomi is, my guess is that is the reason why there is no oreo yet...
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There is nothing like this. Android one is a program which ensures every updates not faster updates. So keep calm. They will release it by 31st Dec.
The update chain is not that what u r thinking right now.
Google - Processor manufacturers - OEMs - Beta testers - OEM - Public Release.
As far as what I've seen and heard on mi community discussions some guy had posted a pic of his discussion with one of the representatives from Xiaomi. It said that they werent sure on when they are going to release the update as they haven't finalized the date yet. They said that it could be in late january 2018
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As far as what I've seen and heard on mi community discussions some guy had posted a pic of his discussion with one of the representatives from Xiaomi. It said that they werent sure on when they are going to release the update as they haven't finalized the date yet. They said that it could be in late january 2018
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If a random representative said that, must be true
I would give them 2-3 days more before I start having my doubts . They've said by end of December ..so no point rushing unless . Just hope there aren't any major bugs in the beta
pow01 said:
The problem is the heavily doctored version of android that Xiaomi have included with this device and the inbuilt spyware.
Still no Oreo
Still no Kernel.
Not pure/stock Android.
THE TIME FOR ACTION IS NOW. - we should not stand for this any longer.
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Looking to buy this device, can you tell me the spyware you have come across.
So someone asked on Twitter about Oreo update and Xiaomi says "Its coming really soon!"
Source: https://twitter.com/xiaomi/status/944922239643684864
Nice thread about Oreo Kappa
Enviado desde mi Mi A1 mediante Tapatalk
So I was abit surprised there has been no announcement for their next follow up. Im guessing they're not taking the OnePlus route I.e. same specs different design.
I had a hunch they are waiting for the snapdragon 845 and turns out I was right. http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/12/05/news-snapdragon-845-exists/
So who will be getting their next flagship. I most likely will because of specs and price ratio. Hopefully they have a much better camera. I found the Mi 5S to have a better camera thab the Mi 6. The olmain downside is waiting a few months (6) for kernel sources.
If they release with Oreo then project Treble unless they do a sly move like OnePlus and release with Nougat to avoid Treble.
Kernel sources will be released at release time from now on.
Wait, what? Do you mean when the phone is available to buy, kernel sources will be published also?
Cozzmy13 said:
Kernel sources will be released at release time from now on.
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Source?, xiaomi has been very bad on kernel source releases.
Yes, I've talked with Ivan and he said that they intend to release sources at time of device release from now on to improve their global market.
Any thoughts guys?
I'll wait and see if it's any good first or wait for mix 3
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Any thoughts guys?
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Too early. Still a lot of speculation.
There aren't a lot of news about SD845 as of today. And looking back how I anticipate Mi 6 release, there were lots of misinformation floating around from one site to another. And in the end, Mi6 is almost different from the rumor I read.
As long as they release a Ceramic Mi7, I'm all in.
Those of you who voted no, whats your reason(s)?
Display size
I will only buy when they release kernel source max 2 months after phone released and it will be cheaper ca 100 USD than otp 6.
If not , I will buy otp 6. I can't imagine, based on mi6 story , to wait 9 months for lineageos and I can't imagine to use crappy MIUI soft.
Well, it depending on how big development on mi 7. If there is a lot dev who bought it, and I'm in.
Still no news :/
So what do you lot think about the Mi 8 and Mi 8 SE?
For me only mi 8 explorer edition is option and only after kernel released
Two others, for that price I would rather buy op6
wojtoo said:
For me only mi 8 explorer edition is option and only after kernel released
Two others, for that price I would rather buy op6
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Apparently it doesn't have a translucent back, its a sticker so I'll probably go for the standard model and the SE depending on how much the resellers are charging.