HEDT processors and platforms are some of the hardest to get when it comes to reviews. Given how new we are to the scene we're actually not surprised that we didn't receive samples... but the tests still needed to be done somehow. Thankfully a friend now at AVADirect (Shannon Robb) was able to offer up the hardware and conduct these tests for us! The results are fantastic for Android team builds - if you were thinking of upgrading, this shows it's a great time to consider it.
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https://www.xda-developers.com/test-ryzen-intel-amd-core-x-threadripper/
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Hello everyone at xda, glad to have joined such a large community.
I searched around a bit, and I'm hoping that I've come to the one place that I can pose a straightforward general question about developing for android devices and come to some conclusion. I thought about posting "does this phone have an FPU" in every specific phone area, but that seems a bit ridiculous.
So I'm 99.9% sure that iPhones indeed have an FPU. OpenGL ES tutorials that focus on the iPhone always recommend using float operations due to the hardware FPU. My question is... how many Android devices actually have one?
I'm developing currently with 1 Ghz processors in mind, so my main concern is really on the Snapdragon and Hummingbird. I recently purchased a Captivate and haven't tried any benchmarks, but on a buddies Incredible, I ran a few tests and it appeared that all fixed point operations were faster than floating point... which seemed to say there was no FPU in the Snapdragon but I'm not completely confident in my benchmarking skills.
Thanks ahead of time for any advise. I'm primarily just trying to make sure if sticking with fixed point is the way to go for now...
It was only a matter of time before AMD followed Nvidia's lead and finally jumped onto the Android bandwagon, as the company is now recruiting engineers to create chipset drivers for Android. According to unnamed sources, the nation's second largest CPU manufacturer is now looking to offer notebook and tablet partners chipset solutions supporting Google's popular mobile platform.
"The Linux Base Graphics team is looking for Android Driver Development engineers to help us evolve our driver stack for new platforms and in line with the development trends in the Android ecosystem," reads the job description. "Experience with video decode acceleration within the Android web browser or video player application would be an asset. Experience with webm and/or OpenMax would be a bonus."
The company confirmed its interest in Android during an interview back in mid-March. Neal Robison, senior director of content and application support at AMD, indicated that offering support for Google's mobile platform makes a lot of sense for the company. "That is something we will be investigating as we take our Fusion architecture [into new markets] and we are able to create versions of this architecture for lower power environments that would work quite well for, perhaps, a tablet using this operating system."
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Full article @ http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Brazos-Llano-APU-AMD-Fusion-Google-Android,12548.html
Funny because the other week I speculated this
Does AMD even have an ARM CPU? Or can Android run on x86?
It's good ATI will come to Android.
I just ordered a lot of ati gear. Great was my surprise to receive it in hp boxes. So basically hp is creating phones?
sargasso said:
I just ordered a lot of ati gear. Great was my surprise to receive it in hp boxes. So basically hp is creating phones?
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HP is WebOs but they aren't apart of AMD. They're just buyers of AMD/ATI products and embed them within their systems.
good news for us
hopefully this time they actually make the drivers open source
last time i purchased an AMD/ATI based Windows Phone, it was a disaster, no drivers, so the GPU was wasted
AllGamer said:
good news for us
hopefully this time they actually make the drivers open source
last time i purchased an AMD/ATI based Windows Phone, it was a disaster, no drivers, so the GPU was wasted
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blame it on Microsoft they'll have to release source to comply with android. Otherwise they will be in trouble.
Who knows? Nexus 4 could feature amd. Amd definitely have a lot of work to do to catch up to its competitors.
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a company who open the specs to some of their products
imagine they open the specs to the CPU, GPU, Sound Processor, WiFi, radio.... you know the rest and a Google Experience device... maaan
I WANT!
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It's good ATI will come to Android.
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All the Qualcomm CPUs use Adreno GPUs, which is a rehashed ATI product. ATI used to own Imageon.
Hopefully this will lead to cheaper phones too....like the six core they have for like 200
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Intel also jumped on the bandwagon and is reportedly going to use its atom cpu.
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Watch A Galaxy S2 Run Two Instances Of Android At The Same Time With New Experimental Virtualization Tech
Go ahead and file this one in the Super Cool Tech category. A Russian blog, Rozetked.ru, posted video of a Galaxy S2 running two copies of Android at the same time. The three-and-a-half minute video takes us through a demo switching between a pair of ROMs while playing music from both, proving that the hardware resources can be shared. After the audio segment, we are shown decently high frame rates on a 3D benchmarking app and Angry Birds. According to the team behind the project, running two concurrent instances of Android only takes about 10% off of battery life while the impact on system speed is negligible. Unfortunately, the voiceover and original subtitles are in Russian, but the automatic translation on YouTube does a passable job of clearing things up for the rest of us. (You may need to manually enable subtitles.)
The project comes from a team of students at the St. Petersburg University of Russian Academy of Sciences in collaboration with Parallels, a company well-known for its cloud computing and virtualization products. We reached out to Parallels, and they were happy to confirm the video's legitimacy.
I can assure you that this video states total truth. Indeed, Parallels has strong connection to the project evolvement. The technology’s been researched by group of students in Parallels Lab (it is our own educational laboratories in leading Russian Universities) at St. Petersburg University of Russian Academy of Sciences. To be specific, it is an experimental student project supervised by Parallels pros. The technology allows running multiple Android isolated environments on single Android device - effective and scalable with low overhead on virtualization. Yet it is still a technology with plans for further product development.
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Yulia
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As you can see, development is still in the early stages, meaning this might not be available as a product for quite a while. And when it does become a product, locked bootloaders and a wide variety of driver-related issues will probably make manual installation impractical for average users and expensive for the company to support. More likely, Parallels will license the software to OEMs like Samsung and HTC and bundle it with devices, or include it as part of a firmware update. Despite a few potential hurdles to get over, this advancement really is something to be excited about. The potential for virtualization in the mobile space is amazing, and may ultimately lead to the next revolution in how we use our devices.
Thanks, Denis Mukhin.
Rozetked.ru
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Yup...Finally you'd be able to have a work phone and a personal phone altogether within the same device. I wonder if this will finally start promoting better dual-sim phones.
its awesome may be soon we get this on our sgs2
Awesome
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its awesome may be soon we get this on our sgs2
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Wish for the best.... AWESOME :highfive:
Hello everybody, i'm very excited with Cyanogen's new way and i must to say that it be a huge community for the device that i solicite support.
It's a device with an awesome hardware, but, sure you know, Android OS came from China isn't very good, i hope you regard my request.
Thanks to all of you (and sorry for my quite bad english).
As an CUBE U30GT2 owner, It will be a mircale for cube U30GT2 users if you will make a rom for our device.
Cube Android os is owful, crush and stuck.
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It's a device with an awesome hardware
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Rockchip is about as far as possible from awesome as you can get from a developer perspective. RK3066 is an utter and total nightmare to work with, I assume 3188 will be equally bad.
I've attempted a bringup of RK306u6 with Codeworkx before. While someone else might be able to do a neat bringup, it won't be me working on it, I'm afraid.
The RK architecture was horrendous, I'm afraid, and had a lot of design compromises (ie. no wifi and ADB at the same time, etc)
Hi,
things have changed a bit since the rk3066.
Rockchip recently released the kernel sources and there is some work that has been made, especially by omegamoon, Galland and aloksinha2001 (take a look here : https://github.com/omegamoon/Rockchip-GPL-Kernel).
Although there are some modules that are always closed sources. :d
Given the number of Android PC Keys that run through a SoC Rk3188, it would be interesting for omnirom to work on it, or even to work in parallel with the above mentioned developers to give it a try and bring a true clean android experience, especially with the multi-window feature that would be a huge improvement in those products.
Regards.
Since I'm active member of this section, I'll begin questioning here. Should I commit to building ROMs in the future, I'll post elsewhere as my edumacation broadens.
I spent 10 years in IT as hardware tech, tech support manager and systems admin. When the economy tanked on '08, the company I worked for quickly began to fold. By '10, I was out of work. I spent the last year with the company closing down call centers in Northwest Indiana and Illinois. Centers across the nation began doing the same. I watched laborers dismantle these centers and throw away hardware by the dumpster load. It was unreal. As part of my 'severence package', corporate allowed me to cart away anything I wanted. Server cabinets, Cisco routers, dialogic servers w/T1 cards and 5 monstrous Intel servers, among other things. Most of the hardware sold quickly except for two Intel SSHCBPBK servers. They ended up in storage.
Long story short, storage gets cleaned out and two servers emerge from the dark. These SQL servers still boot. I forgot the specs and started hunting for info today. Coincidentally, while searching, I found my FS post from '09. That caught me by suprise. Quad Xeon , ICP Vortex raid cards, 10 SCSI drives per server, yada yada yada. Loud and power hungry. The kick in the balls is they only have 1GB ram each.
https://hardforum.com/threads/sale-trade.1385541/
My question is this: can these servers be utilized to build ROMs? Overkill? Too old? I would imagine I'd have to bump up that ram count significantly. I'm not even sure I could get old ECC RAM to fill it. Let me know what you think. If it's feasible, and I commit to it, I'll go from there. Since I have no immedite plans to dump the Axon 7, this would be a good starting point to learn and hone my skills. I might even revive my old LG G3 as a practice device. If not, I'll pitch these heavy behemoths and consider other options. I have a lot of hardware collecting dust.
The quest beings now. I have plenty of reading to do as I get back to my roots. Quite exciting. Transitioning from white collar IT to blue collar laborer was a struggle. Regardless, my passion for tech lives on. I hope to contribute to the ROM community in the future.
I would think a modern and fast quad core with hyperthreading and a shed load of RAM talking to a RAID array would be the best system for compiling ROMs but I'm no IT expert.
Anything old will be inefficient? I have stuff from times past collecting dust. Probably turf it in the bin when I have spare time. One of the issues is continued relevance running modern OS and software. Old hardware is a PIA.
I tried building a little while back when I wanted KCAL on stock N as there was no community development for it. I ended up stuck due to ZTE kernel source being incomplete.
While searching around information and guides I found it's a common recommendation to try Google Cloud Platform. First year or so trial is free with no obligations, saves a whole lot on hardware as well as getting and keeping it running. It's priced for large corporate use so personal consumption doesn't even cost much in their pricing scheme, especially compared to owning matching hardware. It's pretty nice commanding state of the art hardware and networking with just a touch of a login. It's actually a better way to try out building to see if it's for you and decide from there. A hurdle with building in our situation for a beginner is ZTE beta source code.
I'll definitely keep that in mind. Thanks.