It's almost 2018, is moto x style still good enough to deal with it? - X Style (Pure) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys!
I wanted to ask you how this phone defend itself in this time. Is it still good enough for the upcoming 2018?
I heard that the processor was overheating and it had similar problems with battery like his little bro moto x 2014.

The phone is good enough... the battery is life and longevity is garbage, this phones primary weakness is the battery and without it being replaceable easily with a good, quality replacement (which is hard to find) it just falls short.
Does it get warm... yup. The CPU and display are both battery hogs, and the battery Moto used is honestly at the end of it's life or near it for most people.

Thank you very much!
One more question. How's looking moto/ambient display on it?
I have Moto G 2015 (osprey) and Moto X 2014 (victara) and sometimes ambient display on osprey looks a bit bad because of it's IPS panel...

Doker1113 said:
Thank you very much!
One more question. How's looking moto/ambient display on it?
I have Moto G 2015 (osprey) and Moto X 2014 (victara) and sometimes ambient display on osprey looks a bit bad because of it's IPS panel...
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Ambient Display on the Moto X Pure is a little different... assuming you have the latest Nougat, it is one pulse of information, it doesn't repeat. Honestly, I find it of little use and disable it.
It sounds like you are looking at buying one... All I can say is don't bother at this point unless you are getting an really incredible bargain, like under 20% of the cost new, because the battery is that bad especially after this much time. There are much better bargains out there.
Since you have had a Moto G 2015 (and I did as well) let me give you a comparison... I found the X got 1/2-2/3 of the battery life of the Moto G 2015 when new, and that actually got worse. By the time I got rid of my MXPE after about 18 months of normal use, I was unable to get 2 hours of SOT over a 5 hour period and was charging 2-3 times per day, where the Moto G 2015 which was actually about 3 or 4 months older was still getting 3.5 hours of SOT and making it through a full day.

Def good enough. I bought an S8+ after having the Moto for 2 years. Development sucks for the American S8+. The only positive is better battery life, in my opinion. The display is kinda wonky on the Galaxy compared to the Moto as well. I was just praising the amount of flexibility allowed by the Moto in an S8+ thread. Yea, battery sucks but it charges quick. I still found myself charging less often and a hell of a lot more quickly than my coworkers with their crappy iPhones.

Battery life is not a problem for me. Still it lasts the whole day. There is a bunch of 7.1.2 roms which decrease the battery life noticeably. Stock or AICP, no problems with battery life. It gets hot by hard usage, yes.
Maybe really hard phone users wont last the day.
And any non-replaceable battery is replaceable. It just involves taking the phone apart.
Waiting for some 8.0 rom to test.

Now that I have 7.0 using the Sprint SIM trick on VZW and managed to get WiFi Calling working i think this phone is pretty sweet for the $250 I paid for it.

I would not buy this phone again, battery life is crap and cpu overheats even with easy 2d games (lol). Also there are common graphics glitches (like colors being way off for no reason or display looking broken with white stripes or something) that happen once 1-3 months (that's really strange) - sure they disappear after reboot but it makes this phone unreliable. Also the backlight quality in some devices is very bad.

yeah the screen, camera, speakers and build quality are very good. I have my Moto X Pure running on Carbon and it's very good. I'm gonna get a Moto Z next week though

As a backup phone for running Youtube TV or letting my daughter play with, absolutely. As a daily driver, not a chance in hell. The battery discharges too fast, the phone over heats, and the NFC is very spotty after 3 years.

Personally, I could get by easily with a Palm Pre or an Epic 4g. For my use the battery lasts all day and I get about 4.5 hrs of sot on average. I dont notice alot of heating up personally on AEX rom with handbag kernel.

Because nothing else is yet!
The answer is yes... because it's the only thing "good enough to deal with." Aside from the basics, I have six standard criteria for choosing a mobile device, of which five absolutely must be met (Verizon compatibility, unlockable bootloader, excellent screen, acceptable camera, price, and software). The Pure Edition soundly meets all six, and then some. No other device (at this point in time) can match that. The deteriorating battery situation is a bummer, but largely overblown by people (like myself) who used Magisk and got stuck with the whole magisk-daemon-eating-up-the-battery situation.
With that said, I've always got my eyes open for devices that can satisfy these six basic criteria, but in the meantime, I'll count my blessings. I've researched dozens upon dozens of different phones, and the only thing that this research makes me feel is thankfulness for the Pure Edition, because I don't know what I'd do without it, at least for the long term.

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Got a note 5, thinking of returning for nexus 6p (read please)

Well here's the drill. I'm coming from a oneplus one with outstanding battery life and Ive had the note for a day now, battery life has sucked so much, so so much and it even lags sometimes, I can literally see the percentage dropping. Every site I check rates note 5 higher for battery life than note 5, which seems odd to me, and I don't know what to do, should I get the nexus 6p or keep this phone and learn to live with it? Is the oneplus one from outer space for that battery life?
You might get some biased answers here since this is a 6p forum but I'd check the battery stats first, see what's causing that drain. Some phones require a few charges to optimize the battery too. Finally, it could just be a faulty model
I researched the Note 5 real hard between trying out an iPhone 6S+ and buying a 6P. I was coming from an S5 and the wife has a Note 3, which we both like quite a bit. Her Note is actually what got me wanting a bigger screen than my S5. But I did read a lot of complaints about the Note 5 battery life (and the glass backs cracking, even saw a display model at Best Buy with a busted back glass). And being I'm Verizon with no chance to root a Note 5, I opted for the 6P. Battery life has been very good with a few tweaks. Browse through the threads here to find what works. And you don't have to go nuts with the tweaks. For me, just running a custom Kernel, using Greenify for a few apps and not installing GasBuddy were all that was needed.
The Nexus 6P is a great device from a software point of view (= guaranteed updates, no Knox or other nasty stuff ) but not very durable from a mechanical point of view. You really have to take care when using this phone because the Aluminum body is weak and prone to warping or bending. That´s the only downside of this device..
I would say if you're looking to switch because of battery life you likely won't find find much relief by switching to the Nexus 6P. Most new high end phones are clocking in 4-6 hours of screen on time. The Oneplus One may have provided you better battery life due to the lower resolution screen, older (probably less power hungry) processor, and tweaks that were part of CyanogenMod. What kind of screen on time are you getting between the Oneplus One and Note 5?
In terms of performance, I haven't seen a single issue with the Nexus 6P, but screen on time maxes out for me around 4-5 hours. The standby time has been much improved in Marshmallow, but that update should be seen soon-ish on the Note 5.
I've found myself in the same boat, the Note is pretty damn good but there are some software issues such as the memory management, bloat and most of all 32gb not being close to enough HD space. Is the warp thing really an issue? I've not heard of anything regarding it.
omz123 said:
I've found myself in the same boat, the Note is pretty damn good but there are some software issues such as the memory management, bloat and most of all 32gb not being close to enough HD space. Is the warp thing really an issue? I've not heard of anything regarding it.
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Yes, it is an issue. I'd be willing to say that almost every device will suffer from it (even if the owner does not realise) mine warped after a day in a case.
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Yes, it is an issue. I'd be willing to say that almost every device will suffer from it (even if the owner does not realise) mine warped after a day in a case.
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Yes, just read through the 'bent after 2 days' thread and that certainly sound worrying. Really wanted to switch over with the annoyances of the Note lately. Is it enough to warrant not switching or something to 'live with'?
You won't notice it honestly, I just make sure I don't sit on it or anything. The phone itself is a lot better than the note 5. Worth the buy if you're careful
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Yes, just read through the 'bent after 2 days' thread and that certainly sound worrying. Really wanted to switch over with the annoyances of the Note lately. Is it enough to warrant not switching or something to 'live with'?
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If I have any kind of warping on my Nexus 6P I can't see it. The only time warping might be bothersome is if you want to use a tempered glass screen protector, as it will peel away from the display.
Regardless, if you already have a current generation high end Android, you're probaly better off waiting for the next generation. Unless you really got money to burn!
I had the Note 5 before upgrading to the 6P. I am much happier with the 6P, it's better in every way IMO with the exception of the Note 5 having a bit better camera.
I had a OPO and loved the battery life, I went to the N6 and then the N6P and wouldn't even think of any other phone at this point. If you enjoy tweaking, the 6P is the phone for you. Running Cataclysm rom + ElementalX + Pay and V4A, I get between 5-6 hours of SOT, but more importantly for me, I'm usually around 30-40% after my long work day.
I've not had a single issue with any bend or warp. I always put a tempered screen protector on and a very minimal case. I would imagine any thin, larger phone will bend if in your rear pocket if sat on, the IPhone6+ had a similar "issue".
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Regardless, if you already have a current generation high end Android, you're probaly better off waiting for the next generation. Unless you really got money to burn!
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Lucky the note still has good resale value here! Can sell it and pick up a 64gb Nexus for the same price off Gumtree.
omz123 said:
Yes, just read through the 'bent after 2 days' thread and that certainly sound worrying. Really wanted to switch over with the annoyances of the Note lately. Is it enough to warrant not switching or something to 'live with'?
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I don't think so, but I don't carry my phone in my pocket. I use a NiteIze belt carrier. It did make me opt for getting the phone straight from Google though, so I could get the Google Protect program on it. Cost me a little more to get it that way, but good peace of mind since all the feedback I've read about using that program has been very good.
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Well here's the drill. I'm coming from a oneplus one with outstanding battery life and Ive had the note for a day now, battery life has sucked so much, so so much and it even lags sometimes, I can literally see the percentage dropping. Every site I check rates note 5 higher for battery life than note 5, which seems odd to me, and I don't know what to do, should I get the nexus 6p or keep this phone and learn to live with it? Is the oneplus one from outer space for that battery life?
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So far battery life has been excellent for me. I uploaded this for another thread but it may help answer your questions. I should mention that since the last full charge I have not been playing games or streaming video, which might have move the drop-off point up a few hours.
I am sure you can see, there are a bunch of 6P owners complaining about battery life also. My opinion is biased but my 6P seems great with all the stuffs on so far. I would recommend going a full day with location services turned off, google now fully turned off, to see how much drain there is. I came from a Note 4 and that got pretty good battery life with location services off and google now off. I manually turned the GPS on and off when I needed it. Also try removing/disabling as much Samsung and carrier bloatware as possible.

Keep the Droid Turbo 2 or 5X?

I have the Nexus 5X and the Turbo 2, and I need to choose between the two devices, I'm coming from the Moto X 2014. I've been using the 5X for a couple days and I do like it, but there are a few annoyances to me, mainly the speaker when streaming podcasts and such.
I'm just having trouble deciding between a sleek, stock android, but cheaper built Google phone and the powerful, hefty, bloated, but higher build quality Motorola phone.
Kind of stumped on this one, but leaning towards the Turbo 2 because I feel it'd last a bit longer. I know only I can decide what phone I want, but just looking for some opinions.
I keep the both.
I've been debating the same thing with my wife's Turbo 2. The battery life gets here through the day but that's it. I'm very underwhelmed by it. It gets about 2.5 hours of screen on time from 7am to 7pm and that leaves the battery anywhere from 50% and sometimes down to 25%. I really thought Doze would clean up any errant apps she might have keeping it awake, but so, far it's been exactly the same. Even overnight it still uses up to 25% of the battery just sitting on the table. I'd like to switch her to the Nexus 5X, I know Doze would work properly, but with the much smaller battery, I don't know how it would hold up throughout the day. She'd prefer not having to charge a second time just to make it through the evening.
She also had the Moto X 2014 previously and the battery life on it was the only downside. Never traveled anywhere without a travel charger because it just couldn't be trusted to make it past 12 hours.
Do it. Once you go Nexus, you never go back. Unless you're an idiot like me lol.
My friend had the Nexus 5 - I thought the processor was very slow nice feel but needs more of a motor
That's tough...
What does she do on her phone? What do you think the upsides of getting her a nexus vs the dt2? Any benefits you think you will lose when switching? Personally.... I really don't know... After kind of being stuck on a contract with the DT2 (or else paying an arm and a leg) I think the DT2 is an awesome phone. I personally wouldn't switch because I love the speed, power, endurance, screen (shatterproof part, the actualy P-Oled is only okay) and clean stock android (with tons of bloat). However, I can live with the downsides. I obviously get the Fi benefits and the NEXUS support but, again, it's all tradeoffs. In the end, it's your decision. Speed and endurance, vs software and fingerprint sensor.

Anyone switched directly from the G3 to the V20?

I have the G3 and the battery life is not bad. I'm debating between the pixel and the V20. I'm curious how the G3 battery life compares directly with the V20. I know everyone is interested in sharing their battery story and if you have another phone you want to talk about I'll be happy to start another thread. It doesn't help cover my question if people are switching from the G4 or G5 or note or a vibrator or an iPhone... I have a G3 so that is the only frame of reference that will mean anything to me.
It's about the same. Traded in my G3 for the v20 and so far the only thing that's great is the audio on my headphones. Dropped calls and bad LTE connections along with some lag have made me consider taking it back.
OMG get the v20! Switched from the G3 and guessing double the battery life after a week of use. Much better LTE signal strength with fewer dead spots. Killer audio, camera, and love the always on screen.
Looked at a pixel but for the extra cost of about $250 on VZ plus getting the removable battery and SD card I was down for the v20.
This phone is killing the G3. Battery life is waaay better. And I had Greenify and Amplify on my G3. It was rooted and booted but this V20 is 2 steps up without root. Probably get a day and a half once root comes out. Jk. Lol.
THanks for the response - the reason I ask is - I've turned off a ton of apps I don't use and get very good battery life on my G3. I have BT on 24x7.
It has been 24 hours since my last charge - I have 62% battery life remaining. Talk time 1.5 hours - normally I use my phone about 4.5 hours a day - I use it as my office line for tech support.
Anyone here use their phone as a phone a lot?
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THanks for the response - the reason I ask is - I've turned off a ton of apps I don't use and get very good battery life on my G3. I have BT on 24x7.
It has been 24 hours since my last charge - I have 62% battery life remaining. Talk time 1.5 hours - normally I use my phone about 4.5 hours a day - I use it as my office line for tech support.
Anyone here use their phone as a phone a lot?
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Basically my phone on standby I have black and white on cause I used it last night and its better on the eyes I just haven't turned it off lol
I too switched from my very loyal/dependable G3 to the V20. I've had the V20 since Oct 29th and I can say without reservation that it blows my old G3 away. I was running Resurrection Remix ROM on my G3, and the V20 still smokes it....regardless of no root/locked bootloader. The only thing I miss is the CM13 theme engine/Layers...but I still think the V20's responsiveness and features make up for it.
I am on Verizon and I've noticed that the signal strength is much better on the V20 compared to what I had on the G3. So far, I am confident that I made the right choice. Also for me, battery life is much better on the V20 and that is with its little 2nd screen on the entire time.... I average a day and half to 2 with moderate to heavy usage. My old G3 would only last about a day.
I did seriously contemplate the Pixel XL, but when I finally had one in hand and compared it to the V20, it was a no brainer for me.....removable battery and expendable local storage sealed the deal.
Good luck with your decision(s)....
I only just changed to the V20 yesterday, so far so good. I will still keep my G3 , it still holds its weight when comparing to other handsets on the market. Though the 2Gb ram was starting to show it's not good enough anymore with android 6.
I just got my V20 today and i have to so far I am loving it over my G3, idk about battery life yet as I killed the battery during setup and restoring my apps.
Thanks for your replies. I look forward to your opinions on the battery.
Well I still have 2X LG G3 and 1X Samsung galaxy s4 . But because my LG V20 came defective from factory i had to return it, but for the short period i used it, i can say it is way better than the LG G3 on Every aspect without exception! (im still waiting for my new LG V20 to come (STUPID BACKORDERS!)) The LG G3 >rooted with AICP or Resurrection Remix would last about 18 hours with screen off, and 3-4:50 hours with screen on device in normal usage, not heavy such as Youtube video on 1440p. Yet with the LG V20 with screen off, i lost about 1 percent every 4 hours with screen off . and screen on i got 6+ hours of normal usage. (i have 35 user apps installed on my LG G3 and also had them on my LG V20, many of them were constantly synchronizing such as package tracker pro, zooper widget pro, among others)
My V20's battery life is just about exactly what I was getting with the G4 and the G3.
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Bummer - but good to know. I'm hoping the Motorola ? or Lenovo P2 come to Verizon soon as I'll need to make a decision soon. I know it a fancy recording device is important to others but I use my phone to make phone calls 95% of my use time is phone calls. Maybe 5% of the time I'll check email or text and once in a while when travelling use GPS. So cameras and recording don't matter - call reception and battery life are king for me. They both have similar thickness to the V20 but include a 5100mah battery!
boe said:
Bummer - but good to know. I'm hoping the Motorola ? or Lenovo P2 come to Verizon soon as I'll need to make a decision soon. I know it a fancy recording device is important to others but I use my phone to make phone calls 95% of my use time is phone calls. Maybe 5% of the time I'll check email or text and once in a while when travelling use GPS. So cameras and recording don't matter - call reception and battery life are king for me. They both have similar thickness to the V20 but include a 5100mah battery!
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If battery life is king, then the Moto Z Play is the phone you want.
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Thanks - same company but it has a 3510mah battery. I'm going to guess the new model with the 5100mah battery will last longer.
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Thanks - same company but it has a 3510mah battery. I'm going to guess the new model with the 5100mah battery will last longer.
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Maybe. Depends on other factors. Pretty much any review you read will say that the Moto Z Play can last days. I've seen reports of 7 to 10 hours of SOT. That's without the battery mod.
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Maybe. Depends on other factors. Pretty much any review you read will say that the Moto Z Play can last days. I've seen reports of 7 to 10 hours of SOT. That's without the battery mod.
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I don't know if the P2 when released will have a Verizon option so I'm still hoping to find something with good battery life worth upgrading to without wasting an upgrade. I'd also love the ZenFone 3 Max which only has a 4100mah battery.

The perfect Pokemon Go phone..

My search is over. I have been trying to find a phone that lasts when playing pokemon go without having to carry a giant battery back or recharge for an hour and a half. At first I thought it was the LG G5 - I could swap out batteries with ease but even so it was chewing through the batteries and it became a hassle. Tried the S7 edge - great battery life but to extend it required a bulky case. Moto Z - close. Oh so close. With two kate spade wireless battery packs I was good for a full day of poke hunting...but then, then I got the Moto Z play. OMG. It lasts a full day with no other boosts, no recharging, no external battery pack. Sure it is not the highest end specs but hell I never notice. With a full charge and my trusty Kate Spade battery pack?? I am good for two days of HEAVY use. (Pokemon Go uses gps, graphics, wifi if it can, location, everything on the phone..it can be very taxing.). In addition to all that, it lasts as a regular smart phone...all day, everyday. I love it. Takes nice photos, android pay works with the fingerprint scanner (cough axon 7...cough)..omg I LOVE THIS PHONE.
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Takes nice photos
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Takes nice photos for me, but then I'm not putting them in an art show,
For a phone this takes fine photos.
http://imgur.com/a/82cBD
decent photos for me
I'm currently looking to replace my Nexus 6P. It only lasts an hour of PoGo and only a few hours with the screen off and my PoGo plus connected. My options for upgrading are the S8, S8+, G6 and the Moto Z. I would go for a Z Play or Z2 Play if they were an option.
I looked at the S8 and G6, but I didn't really like either of them. I have yet to see a Moto Z in person. The Z Play doesn't seem to be available in Canada.
After the battery issues with my 6P (it dies quickly and shuts off at 30 to 40%) I'm weary of the Pixel. The Pixel 2 won't be out for months. I love stock Android though. I'm not a fan of what Samsung has done with the O/S.
So what's your question? Or you were just sharing your thoughts
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Hmm, good point.
I guess, in light of the fact that I don't seem to have access to the Moto Z Play, how well does the Moto Z run Pokemon Go? I can get it for $20 as an upgrade and I don't mind spending another $80 or so on a battery mod.
The alternatives are the LG G6 or Samsung S8, but I wasn't impressed by either. I just took my Nexus 6P for a 30 min walk and it went from 100% to 60% while playing PoGo. It dies at 30% so it would have only lasted another 20 minutes or so. Having the ability to add a battery mod is "almost" like having a replaceable battery.
Somebody still playing Pokemon Go?!
Why you're not asking such question in Mot Z sub forum? If exists at all.
I had (still have but display got damn green lines) Moto X Force and Z Play has way better battery life. According reviews, Z is more powerful but not even close battery life as Play.
Alternatively, you can just cross the border and buy Play in US. It is available in Best Buy and Fry's (where I bought mine).
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Moto G6 PLUS Battery Life

Ok, I'm planning on getting the G6 plus but need conformation on the battery life as I have excessive paranoia due to my last phone ( LG G3 ) only having less then 3 hours SOT. So what is the SOT on this phone and would it be worth it to get a nokia 7 plus instead as the battery on that is so much better.
- Thanks for the help in advance
Frankly, I'd get the Nokia 7 Plus. Better processor, bigger battery, Android One. This isn't to say that those aren't bad on the G6 Plus, but Lenovo is slow when it comes to updates. I would've gotten the 7 Plus myself if carrier support wasn't going to be iffy in the US.
JoeGatto said:
Frankly, I'd get the Nokia 7 Plus. Better processor, bigger battery, Android One. This isn't to say that those aren't bad on the G6 Plus, but Lenovo is slow when it comes to updates. I would've gotten the 7 Plus myself if carrier support wasn't going to be iffy in the US.
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Thanks Joe but the 7 Plus would cost me an extra £200 over 24 months and i dont care much for updates, I just want to know if you can get through a day without worrying about the battery ( i've had bad experiences with the likes of the s6 edge and LG G3 ).
My regular G6's 3,000 mAh battery can go through a day just fine, and the G6 Plus's battery is 3,200 mAh, so I'd imagine you'd be able to make it through a full day just fine.
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My regular G6's 3,000 mAh battery can go through a day just fine, and the G6 Plus's battery is 3,200 mAh, so I'd imagine you'd be able to make it through a full day just fine.
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Thanx, i'll get it next week
razakma16 said:
Thanks Joe but the 7 Plus would cost me an extra £200 over 24 months and i dont care much for updates, I just want to know if you can get through a day without worrying about the battery ( i've had bad experiences with the likes of the s6 edge and LG G3 ).
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As a previous owner of an LG G3, I can say this phone blows it out of the water in every single aspect! The phone is incredible faster than an LG G3 and yet I get about double the screen on time. It has quick charge so you can top off your battery in no time. Only have time for a 10-15 minute recharge? Still enough time to probably get an extra hour screen time under typical use.
You really should care about updates. These days it pays to be better safe then sorry and so far Moto has pushed out a security update every month which is good. However, I bet it will be awhile before we see Android Pie officially released but we have a dev working on that!
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