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[Q] upgrading from nexus s to nexus 4

at the moment i've got a nexus s and am seriously considering moving on to a nexus 4, i was wondering if anybody else has made the same move as i would like to know how is the battery life on the n4 compared to the ns. i assume it will be worse but i'm hoping it isn't that much of a difference. thanks

insane youth said:
at the moment i've got a nexus s and am seriously considering moving on to a nexus 4, i was wondering if anybody else has made the same move as i would like to know how is the battery life on the n4 compared to the ns. i assume it will be worse but i'm hoping it isn't that much of a difference. thanks
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made the switch about a week ago. for me the battery life is definitely better. take note that the nexus s only had a 1500mah battery. the phone is a bit big but im quickly getting used to the size. this phone is also lag free.
thing that bothers me is that the phone gets really hot. mine hits 43 degrees celcius when playing games. im thinking of rooting to undervolt it.

The N4 is slightly more power hungry i would say but it is nothing a custom rom cant fix.

my previous device was a Nexus S. I made the switch when the S started to lag/freeze real bad and the battery started draining rapidly. I'm not one to switch devices every year but I'm glad I waited for the N4. Performance is buttery smooth, screen size is awesome, and battery life is excellent. Only minor gripe is that after rooting, it seems my phone sucks up more juice..but could be an isolated incident.

praveenmarkandu said:
made the switch about a week ago. for me the battery life is definitely better. take note that the nexus s only had a 1500mah battery. the phone is a bit big but im quickly getting used to the size. this phone is also lag free.
thing that bothers me is that the phone gets really hot. mine hits 43 degrees celcius when playing games. im thinking of rooting to undervolt it.
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43 degrees is not hot... I'm not sure if you're talking case temp or die temp but put it in perspective - the SandyBridge quad core in my desktop PC doesn't throttle 'till 97 degrees C and the ATI GPU in the same system is similar (not that I'd let them get that hot, but Intel and ATI call it 'safe') Obviously this varies from chip to chip, and a CPU running at 80 degrees C is going to make a tablet or phone pretty difficult to hold on to but I'd imagine the limits they've defined are more about protecting the user and the battery (Li-Ion batteries don't like getting hot...) than the SoC itself. Also, the power consumption of a silicon transistor is directly proportional to its temperature, voltage and switching speed. If you let the device get too hot, battery life would go south quite rapidly.
Without undervolting, the Tegra 3 in my Nexus 7 will hit 70+ under simultaneous GPU/CPU load and this is how Google/Asus/NVidia shipped it, so seriously... Don't worry. I don't have an app that can monitor temps on the N4 and neither do I want to know so I'm not about to start fishing about for thermals in sysfs, although I'm sure it's cooler with a 200mV CPU undervolt than stock
I once peered into a rack owned by a client of mine to see one of the servers with a bright red flashing light on it... I asked the guys "how long has this been happening?!" - 4 years of running under high CPU loads at 90 degrees with a ceased fan wasn't enough to kill it, I doubt much will.

ok thanks for the replies was a bit worried that the battery life would be considerable worse but you've set my mind at ease, nexus 4 here i come :good:

insane youth said:
ok thanks for the replies was a bit worried that the battery life would be considerable worse but you've set my mind at ease, nexus 4 here i come :good:
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With the right ROM and kernel, the Nexus 4 is giving me the best battery life of any Android phone I've yet owned. Admittedly, it was just light browsing and youtube-watching, but I got 7 hours screen-on through my last charge cycle... Which is double what I got out of my One X with the same kind of usage!
You won't regret it Just don't put it down on even slightly slanted glossy surfaces with no case covering it... LG appear to have invented the perpetual motion phone!

Azurael said:
With the right ROM and kernel, the Nexus 4 is giving me the best battery life of any Android phone I've yet owned. Admittedly, it was just light browsing and youtube-watching, but I got 7 hours screen-on through my last charge cycle... Which is double what I got out of my One X with the same kind of usage!
You won't regret it Just don't put it down on even slightly slanted glossy surfaces with no case covering it... LG appear to have invented the perpetual motion phone!
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Wow, still can't quite reach seven hours. Most I've had is about six and a half.
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Made the jump myself about a week ago, my Nexus S was starting to lag quite badly and reboot itself a lot. Nexus 4 is leaps and bounds better, no lag, love the screen and battery life seems a little better but not much to be honest, might try rooting and see if it makes a difference with a custom kernal. Very pleased with it overall. Only thing I dislike is the lack of a removable battery and lack of sd card slot but will have to live with it.

Nexus 5 2013 Owners Get ITT

Will you be upgrading or staying on your current phone?

and it begins...
already sold my N5 in preparation for this. Couldn't handle the monster size phone they put out last year.

I just keep my old nexus 5 if there is something wrong with my new nexus or i give it to someone else close who needs it

I'm still rocking my launch day(ordered) Nexus 5 with no hardware issues whatsoever. Hoping to get lucky and snag a day one device again this time.

Day 1 N5 owner!
Let the new games begin!

nljelmer said:
I just keep my old nexus 5 if there is something wrong with my new nexus or i give it to someone else close who needs it
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My thoughts too, I will keep mine. Best phone I've ever had, all my expectations have been fulfilled 'til today!
AndrasLOHF said:
I'm still rocking my launch day(ordered) Nexus 5 with no hardware issues whatsoever. Hoping to get lucky and snag a day one device again this time.
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bfspider said:
Day 1 N5 owner!
Let the new games begin!
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Same here, another day one owner ...rock 'n' rollin' til today!

Oh, hell. I got a mini heart attack when I saw "Nexus 5X Forums Officially Available!" in my feed-reader. For a few seconds, I was wondering whether Google has officially announced the phones while I was offline. Y u do this xda..!!
Anyway, I hope the new phones have good battery performance. This is my situation with N5 -
1. Keeping the radio at 2G 99% of the time.
2. Location, Sync, Mobile Data, NFC - all are always off unless I need to use some app that needs them.
3. Greenify, Amplify, PowerNap.
4. Turn the screen on as few times as possible.
And yet, the battery drains like nobody's business. WTH...!!
I wish someday I'll have a phone where I won't have to worry about keeping the "Sync" on and the phone can actually be used as a smartphone.

Only got my N5 2013 last October, but I still can't wait to jump on the N5x train.

For me.. I'll use my Nexus 5 till it gives up. Nexus 5 will remain a legend and its legacy will continue with 5X.

Day 1 user here as well...
Quite frankly my only gripe with this phone has been the average/below average battery life... Otherwise been very satisfied... Not complaining about the pics either... Think they come out quite well...
Will be interesting to see what they do with the new cameras...

i use a motox 2014 since december when i trashed my n5 (RiP)
i am satisfied so far but i can not wait to jump the nexus train gain

Day 1 owner of the N5, and looking forward to being a day 1 owner of the N5X.
The N5 has been easily the best phone I've ever owned. Honestly, if the battery life was even average at this point I'd probably put off buying a new phone until next year. The usability of the phone is still top notch.

For you day 1 N5 folks, you should probably look into replacing the battery. It's quite easy and totally worth it. I did and I finally get decent battery life like back in 2013.

I kept my N5 since launch and just grabbed it tonight to tinker. Sold my N6 looking for smaller and went with G4. Very excited to be ordering a 5X soon

gregk232 said:
For you day 1 N5 folks, you should probably look into replacing the battery. It's quite easy and totally worth it. I did and I finally get decent battery life like back in 2013.
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Very true. Battery life became really good after putting in a new one in April. Especially after 5.1.1.
However, I sold it in prep for the new N5. Very excited.
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Had the OG Nexus 5 a month after it came out, but ended up giving it to my brother April 2015 after he broke his phone. I now have the Galaxy S6, but man do I miss my Nexus 5. I'm pretty set on buying the Nexus 5X once it comes out.

I bought mine few weeks after launch. Everything is perfect but I am planning to buy a new one because of 2 reasons:
1. Battery life is terrible - a week ago I replaced it and I noticed a small increase in SOT, but nothing extreme... I used to get 2 hours SOT, now with the new battery I get somewhere between 2.5 - 3 hours SOT. I want something that will get me 5-6 SOT and I believe there is something with that amount of SOT on the market... I hope 5X or 6P will be the ones.
2. My screen is a little bit cracked. I dropped it several times, but the last time the screen cracked a tiny bit on the corner. Its unnoticeable unless you really looking, but still it bothers me....

day 1 nexus 5 user here. It's an excellent phone, until one day I slept on it and my elbow put pressure on the screen. Now there are dead spots on the screen, so I can't type "E" anymore unless I go landscape mode. Without this, I might still use the nexus 5 and skip nexus 5x because I'm cheap. That said, I really love my Nexus 5, and I can imagine the Nexus 5x will be even better.

DrunkFuX666 said:
Day 1 user here as well...
Quite frankly my only gripe with this phone has been the average/below average battery life... Otherwise been very satisfied... Not complaining about the pics either... Think they come out quite well...
Will be interesting to see what they do with the new cameras...
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bagarwa said:
This is my situation with N5 -
1. Keeping the radio at 2G 99% of the time.
2. Location, Sync, Mobile Data, NFC - all are always off unless I need to use some app that needs them.
3. Greenify, Amplify, PowerNap.
4. Turn the screen on as few times as possible.
And yet, the battery drains like nobody's business. WTH...!!
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If you've checked and there's nothing keeping the CPU or radio awake, it might be time to replace your battery. It's been two years since the Nexus 5 2013's release, many of those batteries are wearing out.

Poor battery life - just the phone, or something else?

Hello,
My Nexus 6P, albeit a great phone, is starting to get a little slow and the battery life has suffered. My memory usage isn't high, around 2GB. I close all apps after using them. I haven't even used close to half of my 64GB storage.
I am a very heavy phone user, and I am having to recharge my 6P more than once every day. I cannot sustainably use max screen brightness as it drains the battery too quickly, a shame because maximum brightness on this phone is so beautiful!
From some testing, it is taking 2 minutes and 3 seconds to drop 1% in battery life at maximum screen brightness while watching YouTube. Round to two minutes, multiply by 100, and that gives you 200 minutes. 3 hours and 20 minutes.. that is silly, plus the battery drops off faster as the percentage decreases (I tested at 94%).
Realistically, I can get 2.5-3 hours on this phone at maximum brightness - is there something wrong, or is this just the phone? While writing this post in 5 minutes, I dropped another 3%...

It should be pretty obvious that a 2k screen at maximum (!) brightness can drain the battery faster.

joooe said:
It should be pretty obvious that a 2k screen at maximum (!) brightness can drain the battery faster.
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Yes, but Techradar's test of a 90 minute video with adaptive brightness OFF (like me) takes battery down to 75%. That's 25% down in 1.5 hours, meaning the battery life of their test model would be 6 hours video playback, more than double what I get.
What gives?

Lower the brightness.

phoenixsilver said:
Yes, but Techradar's test of a 90 minute video with adaptive brightness OFF (like me) takes battery down to 75%. That's 25% down in 1.5 hours, meaning the battery life of their test model would be 6 hours video playback, more than double what I get.
What gives?
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You're taking 1 instance of a test and multiplying it as it the variables within that instance will remain the same. Batteries drain faster the more they are used in an instance because of the heat. This type of test can be done with a flashlight. Turn it on for an extended period of time and then turn it off for a few seconds. Turn it on again and the brightness will be at max (for the batteries' capacity at the time), after about 5 seconds, the light will dim suddenly.
Same thing happens in phones. Manage your brightness.
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Jammol said:
You're taking 1 instance of a test and multiplying it as it the variables within that instance will remain the same. Batteries drain faster the more they are used in an instance because of the heat. This type of test can be done with a flashlight. Turn it on for an extended period of time and then turn it off for a few seconds. Turn it on again and the brightness will be at max (for the batteries' capacity at the time), after about 5 seconds, the light will dim suddenly.
Same thing happens in phones. Manage your brightness.
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So essentially, this is just the battery life of the 6P?
Seems a little weird to give a phone such a beautiful display but we are unable to use it to its full extent because it won't last.

phoenixsilver said:
So essentially, this is just the battery life of the 6P?
Seems a little weird to give a phone such a beautiful display but we are unable to use it to its full extent because it won't last.
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I can't say that, but I can say there's no device that we can expect to just use that way. All devices (even outside of smartphones) are like that. If it runs on a battery expect not to be able to use it to its full capabilities for an extended period of time.
Cars are the same way. If you run it at max speed all the time (if there were no laws), you'll run out of gas extremely quickly, compared to 65mph. Same concept applies here. It sucks but that's the way it is.
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The battery of this phone is poor, no doubt in that. However what I found is that my previous phone (which I had to RMA) lasted much longer than the current one. Around 1-1.5-2(barely)hr more SOT. Don't know how this could happen.
Yeah, 6P is not what I expected it to be.

edios123 said:
The battery of this phone is poor, no doubt in that. However what I found is that my previous phone (which I had to RMA) lasted much longer than the current one. Around 1-1.5-2(barely)hr more SOT. Don't know how this could happen.
Yeah, 6P is not what I expected it to be.
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Not saying you are wrong, but I feel like some say that about every phone. I will have to wait and see when mine gets here.
When the Note 5 came out there were so many people saying how terrible it was with battery life. Almost turned me away from getting it. Finally decided to take the plunge and guess what? It's pretty much the same as all the other phones I have had. The phone don't suck, our usage changes based on the device we have. I use my Note 5 more than I did my Note 4, battery still lasts me all day but needs to be charged about an hour after I get home. Note 4 made it until bedtime but I had a company phone to use all day.
I'm hoping the 6P can handle me all day. No pen to use so it should be fine.
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Jammol said:
Not saying you are wrong, but I feel like some say that about every phone. I will have to wait and see when mine gets here.
When the Note 5 came out there were so many people saying how terrible it was with battery life. Almost turned me away from getting it. Finally decided to take the plunge and guess what? It's pretty much the same as all the other phones I have had. The phone don't suck, our usage changes based on the device we have. I use my Note 5 more than I did my Note 4, battery still lasts me all day but needs to be charged about an hour after I get home. Note 4 made it until bedtime but I had a company phone to use all day.
I'm hoping the 6P can handle me all day. No pen to use so it should be fine.
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I don't get why you're getting the 6P if you already have the Note 5. Like having two or more phones uh?
I got the 6P in place of the Note 5. I had a Note 4 before (it was defective I believe), it had terrible battery life (very rarely 4.5 to 5 hours SOT) and heats up to 75C very easily. Sure the 6P is cheaper, but I could've gotten the Note 5 if I wanted because this device is going to be there for at least 2 years. The thought of I can't bear anymore of TouchWiz was the only reason I got 6P. I thought the Note 5 would heat similarly and that 6P was better overall. But now I think I'm wrong, the Note 5 is a slightly better phone.
My 6P heats way too much (though not as much as my Note 4 did). Battery not upto expectation. Inconsistent camera (exposure problems). Throttling issues.

edios123 said:
I don't get why you're getting the 6P if you already have the Note 5. Like having two or more phones uh?
I got the 6P in place of the Note 5. I had a Note 4 before (it was defective I believe), it had terrible battery life (very rarely 4.5 to 5 hours SOT) and heats up to 75C very easily. Sure the 6P is cheaper, but I could've gotten the Note 5 if I wanted because this device is going to be there for at least 2 years. The thought of I can't bear anymore of TouchWiz was the only reason I got 6P. I thought the Note 5 would heat similarly and that 6P was better overall. But now I think I'm wrong, the Note 5 is a slightly better phone.
My 6P heats way too much (though not as much as my Note 4 did). Battery not upto expectation. Inconsistent camera (exposure problems). Throttling issues.
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I actually don't mind touchwiz especially now that they have trimmed most of the fat and you can theme it now. Sad I'll miss out on AOSP/CM on it but I guess that's what the Nexus line is for. As far as the 6P being worse than the Note 5, I think it's based on usage patterns. The Note 5 has it's own slew of issues, radio especially for me, it does tend to heat up but not as bad as some other phones. Slippery as hell OMG!!! And that all glass thing is just absolutely nightmarish! It is still a fantastic device though and I will miss it greatly.
I'm getting it because of Project Fi. It will be cheaper for my wife and I compared to what we pay now for T-Mobile. We will be saving just over $60. That's date night once a month right there, Lol. I am actually getting rid of my Note 5, and unfortunately earlier today I dropped it on the road without a case on!!!!!!!!!!!:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
I cried....no shame there....my own damn fault too.

Jammol said:
I actually don't mind touchwiz especially now that they have trimmed most of the fat and you can theme it now. Sad I'll miss out on AOSP/CM on it but I guess that's what the Nexus line is for. As far as the 6P being worse than the Note 5, I think it's based on usage patterns. The Note 5 has it's own slew of issues, radio especially for me, it does tend to heat up but not as bad as some other phones. Slippery as hell OMG!!! And that all glass thing is just absolutely nightmarish! It is still a fantastic device though and I will miss it greatly.
I'm getting it because of Project Fi. It will be cheaper for my wife and I compared to what we pay now for T-Mobile. We will be saving just over $60. That's date night once a month right there, Lol. I am actually getting rid of my Note 5, and unfortunately earlier today I dropped it on the road without a case on!!!!!!!!!!!:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
I cried....no shame there....my own damn fault too.
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Maaan.. You could've just used a case! :
You do know that the 6P bends very easily without a case right (I got to know after I bought the device).
So you're getting the 6P as a replacement to your Note 5? I don't get why I see many people using the 6P after the Note 5. Is the 6P actually better?
Do let me know about your thoughts when you get your phone.

I've found that since a security patch update around February that my phones battery drops so much quicker. I used to be able to get 5 hours sot. I've seen a few people post on this issue and with it being a software issue I'm becoming extremely frustrated with android. I'm ashamed to say I'm considering selling the 6p and getting an Iphone

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Maaan.. You could've just used a case! :
You do know that the 6P bends very easily without a case right (I got to know after I bought the device).
So you're getting the 6P as a replacement to your Note 5? I don't get why I see many people using the 6P after the Note 5. Is the 6P actually better?
Do let me know about your thoughts when you get your phone.
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Sometimes I go bare with it because I'm always "careful" lol. I plan on having a case for the 6P for sure. I'll probably go bare off and on once I get used to the device and become comfortable.
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I've found that since a security patch update around February that my phones battery drops so much quicker. I used to be able to get 5 hours sot. I've seen a few people post on this issue and with it being a software issue I'm becoming extremely frustrated with android. I'm ashamed to say I'm considering selling the 6p and getting an Iphone
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No shame there. Seems like something is staying awake when it should be dozing. I'm assuming it's not rooted right?
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Should I still get the Nexus 6P (broke my Nexus 6) ?

Hello everyone,
a few days ago I broke my Nexus 6. I am now about to buy a new phone. The Google Pixel L looks really nice but way to expensive.
The Nexus 6P comes next which costs nearly as much (or even less) than a new Nexus 6 would cost. But is the Nexus 6P still worth it?
Battery life seems to be worse than on the Nexus 6, is this correct?
Camera is better than Nexus 6 but worse than Pixel L and other new phones (samsung/iphone) ?
Performance would be more than enough.
Faster decryption than Nexus 6
Feels better in the hand than the Nexus 6
Anything else I should consider?
Thanks in advance !

I upgraded from the N6 to the 6P about a month ago and I couldn't be happier. Camera is better. Battery life is double what it was on the N6, at least for me it is (I'm not arguing over it). Performance is similar. The one thing that makes it an upgrade for me is that the 6P is easier to use on the go, it's not as wide, really makes a difference.

Im in the same boat, need a phone. Only thing that scares me is all the complaints about the 6p battery starting to degrade after long a year ;-/

I recently "upgraded" from a N6 to a 6P, I'd do it again . Similar performance, camera....Not a huge deal to me. battery life isn't as good as my n6, it seems maybe my used 6p has had a rougher battery life than my n6. It gets me through an average days use but no 5.5-6 hours of SOT.
It feels much better in the hand than the n6, the sRGB mode is a winner in for me, finger print scanner is a nice feature. It's also a nexus, unfortunately the last.
I say do it if you can get a good deal.
I was able to pick up a 64gb for under 300 USD!!

Hm thanka for the input. I am not sure if there are any real alternatives for the same price anyway?

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I recently "upgraded" from a N6 to a 6P, I'd do it again . Similar performance, camera....Not a huge deal to me. battery life isn't as good as my n6, it seems maybe my used 6p has had a rougher battery life than my n6. It gets me through an average days use but no 5.5-6 hours of SOT.
It feels much better in the hand than the n6, the sRGB mode is a winner in for me, finger print scanner is a nice feature. It's also a nexus, unfortunately the last.
I say do it if you can get a good deal.
I was able to pick up a 64gb for under 300 USD!!
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I too manage to get my Nexus 6P for under 300, I got mine for 130 and I have to say, it is well worth in getting.
I also am coming from the Nexus 6 as mine has recently broke last month, a day after Thanksgiving. I ended up cracking the screen whilst having the screenprotector on it and you could tell, there is a difference in using the 6P to the 6. With the 6P, it is less wider and feels good in the hand whereas with the 6 it sorta felt like you were holding a brick. The Gorilla Glass 4 which is used on the 6P feels very strong than to the 6's and the screen resolution is amazing. I think if you are able to find a good price on it, it is well worth the money.

Utini said:
Hello everyone,
a few days ago I broke my Nexus 6. I am now about to buy a new phone. The Google Pixel L looks really nice but way to expensive.
The Nexus 6P comes next which costs nearly as much (or even less) than a new Nexus 6 would cost. But is the Nexus 6P still worth it?
Battery life seems to be worse than on the Nexus 6, is this correct?
Camera is better than Nexus 6 but worse than Pixel L and other new phones (samsung/iphone) ?
Performance would be more than enough.
Faster decryption than Nexus 6
Feels better in the hand than the Nexus 6
Anything else I should consider?
Thanks in advance !
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The degrading battery issue mentioned below, is false for me - completely. Yes, I get degrading but this is normal for ANY lithium battery on the market. And I have a estimated capacity of 3,223. This is only 6% degrading over a year and a half. Plus you can get the phone for half the price of google, on swappa and various other sites in mint condition.
Side note: I feel the degrading issue is more of a myth caused by the recent battery drain issues of Nougat, and users probably blamed their device rather than the software.
Otherwise, I love this phone. Would absolutely get it again. Hope you come to a decision that satisfies you!

kinfolk248 said:
Im in the same boat, need a phone. Only thing that scares me is all the complaints about the 6p battery starting to degrade after long a year ;-/
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Every phones section on XDA is going to complain about the battery on every phone. There could be a phone with a 10,000 milla amp battery and there would still be people on XDA going
"oh i only got 8hrs of SOT seems pretty low for a phone with a 10k battery"
*update comes out*
"OMG my battery sucks on the new update"
Literally every phone i have owned that XDA section complained about the battery.
LG G2X, MyTouch Slide, Galaxy Nexus, Note 2 (that phone was awesome on battery) Nexus 5, Galaxy S6 Edge, Nexus 6P,

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Every phones section on XDA is going to complain about the battery on every phone. There could be a phone with a 10,000 milla amp battery and there would still be people on XDA going
"oh i only got 8hrs of SOT seems pretty low for a phone with a 10k battery"
*update comes out*
"OMG my battery sucks on the new update"
Literally every phone i have owned that XDA section complained about the battery.
LG G2X, MyTouch Slide, Galaxy Nexus, Note 2 (that phone was awesome on battery) Nexus 5, Galaxy S6 Edge, Nexus 6P,
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Oh yea I understand that but I was more so concerned with something just being wrong with the 6p as in a defect that they didn't tell us about just to sale phones

I'm considering going with the 6P over my Axon 7. I'm really missing the big screen, seemless Verizon compatibility and lots of ROMs. I haven't quite decided yet, but I'm lurking in the 6P forums thinking about it... The Axon isn't bad but the dev community pales in comparison to the 6P.
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If you are going to use your phone for more that 2 years get pixel XL it's going to pay for it self but if Nexus 6P is still really smooth
P.S I have the 6P

Go for it! I was on the same boat as you. Was caught in between oneplus3 and 6p.Was coming from oneplus2. I wanted a pure android exp without rooting so I gave 6p a go. Battery has been good for me.Camera is fantastic,i had friends commended the quality and most of them are using iphones. It never felt an old device.
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TnT_ said:
The degrading battery issue mentioned below, is false for me - completely. Yes, I get degrading but this is normal for ANY lithium battery on the market. And I have a estimated capacity of 3,223. This is only 6% degrading over a year and a half. Plus you can get the phone for half the price of google, on swappa and various other sites in mint condition.
Side note: I feel the degrading issue is more of a myth caused by the recent battery drain issues of Nougat, and users probably blamed their device rather than the software.
Otherwise, I love this phone. Would absolutely get it again. Hope you come to a decision that satisfies you!
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Lol there is absolutely NO battery issue. There is NO battery issue with Nougat. Everyone here complains that there is a battery issue with nougat just as they did with marshmallow and lollipop and kitkat etc.

I just purchased the N6P to replace my V20. I love it so far. Good battery life and excellent camera.
My only complaint (I'm just waiting for a response on this in the Noob Question thread) is that it's a bit sluggish when using some apps and web browsing. Other that it's a blast to use.

Did you get a new 6P? I returned my Axon and am still looking for something to replace my V10...
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Bought a 128gb N6P on eBay a couple days ago and waiting for it to arrive. Just read about the early shutdown issues with batteries that still have a charge. That's my bad for not looking into the phone a little bit more than I did. I too will be replacing a Motorola N6 that I was planning on selling after but maybe I'll wait and see if this affects the phone that I bought.
Ill be happy to report after I get my N6P in a couple days.

NO! If you haven't heard. They no longer work. Drop at 15 percent battery to nothing. Battery or software problems. Get a OnePlus 3t

I'm on 7.0 and not having any issues with my 6P. Excellent battery life (4.5-5 hrs sot) and perfectly stable performance. I had it with me skiing last sunday in 4 degree F weather and it performed flawlessly as well.

I'm on a 7.1.1 ROM and I can use the phone clear down to 1 percent battery. The shutdown bug isn't universal at all. The 6p is easily my favorite phone yet, FWIW.

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I just purchased the N6P to replace my V20. I love it so far. Good battery life and excellent camera.
My only complaint (I'm just waiting for a response on this in the Noob Question thread) is that it's a bit sluggish when using some apps and web browsing. Other that it's a blast to use.
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That's surprising. I've always found the 6P fast and smooth. Did you purchase a new, used or refurbished phone? Are you running stock Android? If so, which build?
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The 6P is a bargain now that the Pixel is out but if I had the money I would probably purchase a Pixel instead. There are bugs (random reboots; phone shutdown at 15% battery) that are affecting a small but still significant number of 6P users. If you buy a 6P make sure it has a full warranty.

Still worth in 2017?

I'm entertaining the thought of getting a Nexus 6P this 2017. I understand updates will still be that quick and supported by 2018 but I have some questions:
1. Is it true the 6P has some water-resistant powers that it's considered safe to use during light rain or a spill of water or soda?
2. I heard that a "bug" causes the phone to crash or turn off unexpectedly when the battery dips below 10%?
3. Is it also true the wifi and bluetooth can sometimes be erratic?
Need your comments please. Cheers.

I have the 6P Since 20th July..
And non of these issues had with me.
Get the one plus 3.. N6P is too old now
Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk

Gino76ph said:
I'm entertaining the thought of getting a Nexus 6P this 2017. I understand updates will still be that quick and supported by 2018 but I have some questions:
1. Is it true the 6P has some water-resistant powers that it's considered safe to use during light rain or a spill of water or soda?
2. I heard that a "bug" causes the phone to crash or turn off unexpectedly when the battery dips below 10%?
3. Is it also true the wifi and bluetooth can sometimes be erratic?
Need your comments please. Cheers.
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I just sold mine on eBay.. I liked the phone allot but it was just too big for me to carry at work. I never had any problems with mine the entire time I had it.
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No problems since launch. There exceptions for some....

Abdulaziz6p said:
I have the 6P Since 20th July..
And non of these issues had with me.
Get the one plus 3.. N6P is too old now
So, no issues with water damage or phone dying when battery goes under 15%?
I'm reluctant to get a OnePlus phone. I have heard many great things about their phones but company it seems has a poor track record when it comes to Customer Support and after sales service.
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Gino76ph said:
Abdulaziz6p said:
I have the 6P Since 20th July..
And non of these issues had with me.
Get the one plus 3.. N6P is too old now
So, no issues with water damage or phone dying when battery goes under 15%?
I'm reluctant to get a OnePlus phone. I have heard many great things about their phones but company it seems has a poor track record when it comes to Customer Support and after sales service.
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Yes sir. Nothing had on mine
And you're right about OnePlus...
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Gino76ph said:
I'm entertaining the thought of getting a Nexus 6P this 2017. I understand updates will still be that quick and supported by 2018 but I have some questions:
1. Is it true the 6P has some water-resistant powers that it's considered safe to use during light rain or a spill of water or soda?
2. I heard that a "bug" causes the phone to crash or turn off unexpectedly when the battery dips below 10%?
3. Is it also true the wifi and bluetooth can sometimes be erratic?
Need your comments please. Cheers.
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I bought the Nexus6P back in December because it was a great open box deal, and I couldn't be happier.
I've never encountered any of the issues you mentioned at all, and I find it to still be super snappy under normal use, plus the battery is great.
I can't comment on the water-resistance because I try not to allow it to get wet at all; that said, I'm sure you can just youtube people stress testing their poor 6p phones.
I will agree with others here though in saying that it is a bit large - I did want to pixel (not the XL) as it's size is much better, but the price was too high.

So, in 2017 what old flagship would you choose in terms of battery life, overall speed & performance and an excellent camera...a Nexus 6P, OnePlus 3T or Galaxy S7?

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So, in 2017 what old flagship would you choose in terms of battery life, overall speed & performance and an excellent camera...a Nexus 6P, OnePlus 3T or Galaxy S7?
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Nexus 6P, hands down. Mine consistently lasts all day (about 18 hours) with moderate to heavy usage (browsing XDA with Tapatalk, social media, etc), takes amazing pictures, and is very fast/responsive.
I have no experience with the OnePlus 3T, but my mom's Galaxy S7 was awful. It had horrible battery life, ugly software, and performance was very janky. The cameras were pretty good, though.
You can't go wrong with a Nexus phone. The amazing developers here on XDA keep them alive long after Google drops support.

Problem is I'm not into rooting and I only depend on software updates via OTA.
I also heard about the device freezing, radios (such as bluetooth, wifi, etc.) kept playing up and phone dies after only 15% (or below) battery life.

Gino76ph said:
Problem is I'm not into rooting and I only depend on software updates via OTA.
I also heard about the device freezing, radios (such as bluetooth, wifi, etc.) kept playing up and phone dies after only 15% (or below) battery life.
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Even if you're not into rooting, you'll still get OTA updates with the latest security patches/bug fixes months before any other phone. The 6P should be supported up until Android 9.0, so you'd be good for another 14 months or so.
If you do decide to take a walk on the wild side and root after Google drops support, Nexus phones are very easy to unlock, root, and customize.
As for the freezing, I've never experienced this while stock. The only time my device has ever frozen/crashed was due to something stupid I did, like changing the file system, or risky kernel settings.
I don't use Bluetooth, so I can't provide any feedback there, but I can vouch for WiFi being very stable.
The shutdown/battery issues are caused by degraded batteries. There's no avoiding it, batteries are rated for a certain number of charge cycles and wear out over time, but there are things you can do to extend the life of your battery:
1. Don't expose your phone to extreme hot/cold temperatures. Using it in the summer or winter is ok, but don't put it in the freezer to run benchmarks or to keep it cool while installing updates. If you must keep it cool, take it out of its case (if you have one) and place it in front of a fan. I always place my phone in front of a fan when installing a new ROM or anything CPU intensive to keep it cool.
2. Don't use fast charging unless absolutely necessary, such as you're heading out for a hot date in 20 minutes but you only have 15% left. If you're charging your phone overnight, there's no need to use the fast charger. I've been using the 1 amp wall adapter from my Galaxy Nexus to charge my 6P overnight and the battery is just as good as day one with no random shutdowns.
3. Don't play games, install updates, or anything that may cause the phone/battery to heat up while the phone is charging. Browsing the web, listening to music, texting, or other light tasks are fine, but playing Asphalt 8, installing the latest OTA, or whatever while charging will cause your battery to heat up and wear it out faster.
4. Charge the phone while off if possible. The reason for this is when powered on and the battery reaches 100% it stops charging (obviously). When the battery drops to 98% it starts charging again. If you charge overnight with the phone on the 2% drop/recharge will happen multiple times, causing unnecessary charge cycles and wearing out the battery.
5. Try to avoid letting the battery go below 15-20%. Discharging the battery too far too often wears it out faster.
6. If you want to get really anal about this, charge the battery when it reaches 20% and unplug it when it reaches 80%. This counts as only half of a charge cycle, thus extending the life of your battery. There's an app on XDA that stops charging at whatever limit you decide, but I believe it requires root.
I recommend buying your 6P new (if you decide to go with it and if you can find one). When you buy a used phone you have no idea how badly the battery was abused.

Gino76ph said:
Abdulaziz6p said:
I have the 6P Since 20th July..
And non of these issues had with me.
Get the one plus 3.. N6P is too old now
So, no issues with water damage or phone dying when battery goes under 15%?
I'm reluctant to get a OnePlus phone. I have heard many great things about their phones but company it seems has a poor track record when it comes to Customer Support and after sales service.
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I just sold my OnePlus 3T, it was a great phone, the only thing that disappointed me was the camera. If camera was as good as the 6P I would of kept it for another year. It is very poor in low light and bad focus on the simplest shots. I think the OnePlus 5 will be the phone to look to next for a mid priced beast.
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It's too old and you may fell angry with the hot 810 SOC

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It's too old and you may fell angry with the hot 810 SOC
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It's not too old. I have one and it is better than many phones years newer than it imo. I have no lag or stutters and it never heats up or has any problems. I'd definitely recommend this phone any day as it is just so good for its age.

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It's too old and you may fell angry with the hot 810 SOC
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My 6P doesn't get hot, even when playing CPU/GPU intensive games like Asphalt 8. The 810 has been tamed on the 6P.

The only good thing 6P has going for it is it's front speakers and the camera performance. Android 8/O wont fix it's short battery life, nor its laughable audio and call quality along with the random wifi connection issues...

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The only good thing 6P has going for it is it's front speakers and the camera performance. Android 8/O wont fix it's short battery life, nor its laughable audio and call quality along with the random wifi connection issues...
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Those issues are some most users including myself never have had. Those kind of issues are not device specific either and the battery is actually pretty good for the phones age. The camera is amazing with 4k quality so I don't know what you're smoking and the audio quite actually is pretty decent and doesn't have crackling or tinny sounds. The call quality is actually amazing and very clear even compared to newer phones and my home phone. At times it can be quite but there are mods for that but for general users the audio is good enough. Keep in mind that many issues you may have heard are a small percentage and are usually reports from devices with an old degraded battery and maybe a buggy custom rom. Should I assume you don't have a nexus 6p? Before talking about a phone you don't have try researching about it.

I've been lurking for a few in this part of the forum. I currently own the Nexus 6 and they have reached EOL and was considering a jump to this one. Do you guys recommend it, I'm leery about the bootloop issues and early shut down of the phone but from what I've seen around the forums if you don't have those you guys are pretty happy with the device.

RasAlGhul said:
I've been lurking for a few in this part of the forum. I currently own the Nexus 6 and they have reached EOL and was considering a jump to this one. Do you guys recommend it, I'm leery about the bootloop issues and early shut down of the phone but from what I've seen around the forums if you don't have those you guys are pretty happy with the device.
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It is one of if not the best phones that came out at that time and is a fairly good price. The bootloop issues are not software related but occur when someone's battery degrades due to having it a long time or not taking care of it and how it is charged. Also the development on this phone including roms and kernels etc is some of the best. It is an amazing phone with no lags or bootloop issues and aslong as you aren't an idiot with your charging you shouldn't need to worry about any issues.

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It is one of if not the best phones that came out at that time and is a fairly good price. The bootloop issues are not software related but occur when someone's battery degrades due to having it a long time or not taking care of it and how it is charged. Also the development on this phone including roms and kernels etc is some of the best. It is an amazing phone with no lags or bootloop issues and aslong as you aren't an idiot with your charging you shouldn't need to worry about any issues.
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Plus I get to stick with Beans Roms, nothing against other developers as I'm sure they are good too but I've been a user of Beans roms for quite some time. Thanks, I loved my Nexus 6 but since it's only 32 bit it's time is coming to an end.