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what's the difference between VillainROM and Lite'ning Rom

Hello, I am a new guy for andriod. Now I am using the lastest offical rom which is KE7.I consider to flash a custom rom while two popular custom roms making me hard to choose, which is VillainROM and Lite'ning Rom. Is there anyone could tell me what's the differfence between these two? what is the advantage of each one? cheers

This might be quite ot,but i have never had a phone b4 that i didnt had the hurry to flash a new rom.The original rom is quite flawless in my eyes!But finally i did flash the VR1.1 rom.But honestly i dont think its worth the effort,the WOW factor isnt there.To be honest,the Samsung rom is quite finished in my eyes!I had the Optimus 2X and Galaxy S before,and they sure did needed a new rom,but the SGS2...no at this point you dont need it.I might be flamed now but i think ur better of NOT flashing a new rom,just unroot and wait !There sure will be better alternatives later,but as of now...no it dont!

thank u for ur suggestion
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ruskprick said:
This might be quite ot,but i have never had a phone b4 that i didnt had the hurry to flash a new rom.The original rom is quite flawless in my eyes!But finally i did flash the VR1.1 rom.But honestly i dont think its worth the effort,the WOW factor isnt there.To be honest,the Samsung rom is quite finished in my eyes!I had the Optimus 2X and Galaxy S before,and they sure did needed a new rom,but the SGS2...no at this point you dont need it.I might be flamed now but i think ur better of NOT flashing a new rom,just unroot and wait !There sure will be better alternatives later,but as of now...no it dont!
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This really in the past all Android phones I have owned have been dire out the box and the roms always made them better but apart from running an alternative launcher I think its pretty much perfect rom.

littlepig877 said:
Hello, I am a new guy for andriod. Now I am using the lastest offical rom which is KE7.I consider to flash a custom rom while two popular custom roms making me hard to choose, which is VillainROM and Lite'ning Rom. Is there anyone could tell me what's the differfence between these two? what is the advantage of each one? cheers
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If you're happy with stock, there's little point in using a custom ROM.
If you want the kind of tweaks I do to ROMs, like removing silly battery warnings, or letting you send longer SMSs to more people, then use VR1.1.
TBH there's no need to use a custom ROM on this phone unless you want these kinds of tweaks, as tbh this phone is good enough out the box

pulser_g2 said:
If you're happy with stock, there's little point in using a custom ROM.
If you want the kind of tweaks I do to ROMs, like removing silly battery warnings, or letting you send longer SMSs to more people, then use VR1.1.
TBH there's no need to use a custom ROM on this phone unless you want these kinds of tweaks, as tbh this phone is good enough out the box
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Does the Villain Tweasks work on the offical firmware? cuz I intall it but does not work on my phone in terms of 'prevent the notification when full charged'.

Just try them both, how long is that really going to take?, I have and prefer Villain simply because I am not big on lightnings theme.

Heh, it's funny how we all have different tastes. I love Litening's theme and it's the only reason I use it. As Pulsar said his opens up so extra tweaks. If you don't have a pressing reason to flash, stick with stock, but maybe root if you need to.

Honestly, Samsung has indeed made a really good work with android 2.3.3. But I took Lightning because I like when there's a theme behind all the software. Like same color, or the similar design which make it good-looking.

I haven't tried Villain, since Litening 1.4 is my first romflashing experience. However, compared to the stock unrooted rom in my Galaxy S II, I think Litening has added significant value to my phone. This includes, but is not limited to:
SMB-shares using Samba
Allows you to access your phone's internal memory and SD card over your WiFi as a shared folder. That way you'll never have to connect your phone by USB to manage files.
Vastly improved sound quality on video recordings
Potatoman has a released a modified version of the camera app, which increases the audio resolution on video recordings from 16 KHz to 44 KHz resulting in clearer and cleaner audio. His mod also allows you to silent the camera (disabling shutter sounds and clicks) and increase the video bitrate (although the effect is negliable).
Improved batterylife
Litening will root the phone, allowing you to get rid of Samsungs bundled apps. Once they are removed, they no longer litter in the background.
Video and voice over Google Talk
Litening features an updated version of Google Talk, which allows you to place free voice and video calls over Googe Talk.
Carrier branding goes away
Some carriers have modified the original firmware to disable certain options, for instance 3 has disabled the option to switch between 2G and 3G mode. Logically, Litening does not incorporate these branded limitations.
Minor user interface improvements
Litening features a modified blue theme, which IMHO looks cool. It features an improved battery icon and a snazzy animation when the screen is turned off.

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I'm new here too! I tried both and they both preform perfectly. Although, from personal experience I found the villianrom to have overall battery life but lite'ning to be more stable with a focus on performance.
I am currently on villainrom lite (bloat removed) with the nimphetamine kernel as I find the battery life to be more important to me.

If you want UI overhaul and improved usability, I recommend MIUI. To be honest, it's the only ROM I find greatly improves the way you use the phone.
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ruskprick said:
This might be quite ot,but i have never had a phone b4 that i didnt had the hurry to flash a new rom.The original rom is quite flawless in my eyes!But finally i did flash the VR1.1 rom.But honestly i dont think its worth the effort,the WOW factor isnt there.To be honest,the Samsung rom is quite finished in my eyes!I had the Optimus 2X and Galaxy S before,and they sure did needed a new rom,but the SGS2...no at this point you dont need it.I might be flamed now but i think ur better of NOT flashing a new rom,just unroot and wait !There sure will be better alternatives later,but as of now...no it dont!
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Exactly. There's no rush to flash a new rom because the original Samsung rom is quite ok for me. Wait for a few months and there'll be a lot of better alternatives and CM is getting better and better everyday.

[Q] Help choosing between I9500 and I9505

So I'm going to buy a S4 soon, and I had the question that many of you probably had also: which version to buy?
Reading all over the internet, I9500 has better performance, but I9505 has better battery life.
Having a better battery is something really important, and that's a great point towards the I9505 (from what I've seen). But the performance differences really make any noticeable difference at all?
I don't consider LTE network a point, because here in Brazil that's something way beyond our network capabilities, and probably we won't be seeing the light of 4G in the next 5 years.
I'll be mostly using the device to listen to music, WiFi and gaming, while it should last for at least 6 hours without getting battery at critical levels, and recharging it every day for the whole night until morning. I have a I9000, and it became so awfully slow and unstable over the time, I have to make full wipes at least 3 times a month, can't install any games or "heavy" apps, and listening to music has become a pain, as everytime I unlock the screen or go to the app drawer, the sound playback lags, freezes, and sometimes reboots the phone. I am pretty sure I won't be having any of those issues with the S4, but I really don't want to get any closer to a lag with listening to music or playing.
Price is also not an issue, both models are the same price here.
And last, modifying the device, in terms of root and ROMs and such. I have to struggle everytime I want to change something like that on my I9000B, because most of the developed stuff is for the I9000 and aren't "fully compatible" with the I9000B. Are the same options for the I9500 available to the I9505? At least in the number of options, and is it easy to make root and such?
So, what do you say, xda members?

Zkaar said:
So I'm going to buy a S4 soon, and I had the question that many of you probably had also: which version to buy?
Reading all over the internet, I9500 has better performance, but I9505 has better battery life.
Having a better battery is something really important, and that's a great point towards the I9505 (from what I've seen). But the performance differences really make any noticeable difference at all?
I don't consider LTE network a point, because here in Brazil that's something way beyond our network capabilities, and probably we won't be seeing the light of 4G in the next 5 years.
I'll be mostly using the device to listen to music, WiFi and gaming, while it should last for at least 6 hours without getting battery at critical levels, and recharging it every day for the whole night until morning. I have a I9000, and it became so awfully slow and unstable over the time, I have to make full wipes at least 3 times a month, can't install any games or "heavy" apps, and listening to music has become a pain, as everytime I unlock the screen or go to the app drawer, the sound playback lags, freezes, and sometimes reboots the phone. I am pretty sure I won't be having any of those issues with the S4, but I really don't want to get any closer to a lag with listening to music or playing.
Price is also not an issue, both models are the same price here.
So, what do you say, xda members?
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I say I9505 is the best choice, because with it, you have the choice of:
1. Stock ROM/Custom ROM based on Stock
2. Google Play Edition ROM/Custom ROM based on Play Edition
3. CyanogenMod ROM or AOSP/Unofficial Kangs based on CyanogenMod4 or AOSP
This is why the I9505 will be my next device.

donalgodon said:
I say I9505 is the best choice, because with it, you have the choice of:
1. Stock ROM/Custom ROM based on Stock
2. Google Play Edition ROM/Custom ROM based on Play Edition
3. CyanogenMod ROM or AOSP/Unofficial Kangs based on CyanogenMod4 or AOSP
This is why the I9505 will be my next device.
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Good, but I'm most worried about battery and performance. but I'll surely keep that in mind when choosing. TouchWiz is not that bad, but after some time you realize that it's quite ugly and boring, also big in sizes, and lacking some customization (or maybe that's just in my head, been years since I last saw TouchWiz). And rooting is something I'll really need. Does it use an app, like one click and it's rooted, or it's a root via kernel?

cf-autoroot through ODIN... I9505 is the better option for customisation, not many countries got the I9500...
I get around 2 days with my I9505... Some gaming the odd call and quite a few emails and sms.... Not to mention GPS now and then and weather updating every 6 hours... I also use my phone as my alarm clock.

Rooting the I9505 and restoring the phone back to stock are a piece of cake bro, Triangle Away doesn`t work yet on the I9500 atm so no way to reset the binary flash counter. I would definately choose for the I9505, much more roms and kernels available to choose from.

Zkaar said:
Good, but I'm most worried about battery and performance. but I'll surely keep that in mind when choosing. TouchWiz is not that bad, but after some time you realize that it's quite ugly and boring, also big in sizes, and lacking some customization (or maybe that's just in my head, been years since I last saw TouchWiz). And rooting is something I'll really need. Does it use an app, like one click and it's rooted, or it's a root via kernel?
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Like the previous poster, I also agree that CF Root is the way to go.
It's easier to flash and root Samsung devices than just about any other.
Root with CF Root gives you stock recovery if you want to keep it and there's still the option of CWM recovery if you want to flash custom rom or backup your current rom or install zips etc.
And you have Mobile Odin as an option, which allows you to flash even stock rom from your phone. No PC needed. Same genius dev who gave us root made this tool also.
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gee2012 said:
Rooting the I9505 and restoring the phone back to stock are a piece of cake bro, Triangle Away doesn`t work yet on the I9500 atm so no way to reset the binary flash counter. I would definately choose for the I9505, much more roms and kernels available to choose from.
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Does Triangle Away work on the I9505?

donalgodon said:
Like the previous poster, I also agree that CF Root is the way to go.
It's easier to flash and root Samsung devices than just about any other.
Root with CF Root gives you stock recovery if you want to keep it and there's still the option of CWM recovery if you want to flash custom rom or backup your current rom or install zips etc.
And you have Mobile Odin as an option, which allows you to flash even stock rom from your phone. No PC needed. Same genius dev who gave us root made this tool also.
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Does Triangle Away work on the I9505?
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Yes, it does work on the I9505, not on the I9500 atm.

ultramag69 said:
cf-autoroot through ODIN... I9505 is the better option for customisation, not many countries got the I9500...
I get around 2 days with my I9505... Some gaming the odd call and quite a few emails and sms.... Not to mention GPS now and then and weather updating every 6 hours... I also use my phone as my alarm clock.
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gee2012 said:
Rooting the I9505 and restoring the phone back to stock are a piece of cake bro, Triangle Away doesn`t work yet on the I9500 atm so no way to reset the binary flash counter. I would definately choose for the I9505, much more roms and kernels available to choose from.
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donalgodon said:
Like the previous poster, I also agree that CF Root is the way to go.
It's easier to flash and root Samsung devices than just about any other.
Root with CF Root gives you stock recovery if you want to keep it and there's still the option of CWM recovery if you want to flash custom rom or backup your current rom or install zips etc.
And you have Mobile Odin as an option, which allows you to flash even stock rom from your phone. No PC needed. Same genius dev who gave us root made this tool also.
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That's more points for the I9505. I'm mostly asking if it's easy to root and flash custom ROMs because I had a hard time doing such on my three I9000Bs, all of them got bricked at some point and not always had success. But that's really good to know.
To close this and make my decision, does the I9500 CPU and GPU make any noticeable difference in performance at all? I have a friend which has the I9500 and tells me that it's way superior than the I9505, but he gives me no details at all. Also, on this review, the man says the I9500 had some instability and lags.

Zkaar said:
That's more points for the I9505. I'm mostly asking if it's easy to root and flash custom ROMs because I had a hard time doing such on my three I9000Bs, all of them got bricked at some point and not always had success. But that's really good to know.
To close this and make my decision, does the I9500 CPU and GPU make any noticeable difference in performance at all? I have a friend which has the I9500 and tells me that it's way superior than the I9505, but he gives me no details at all. Also, on this review, the man says the I9500 had some instability and lags.
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The performance difference between the 2 cpu`s is realy marginal and hardly noticable. I think the Qualcomm cpu is more stable and has less bugs and its much more open scource than the Exynos. The lag is mainly caused by the fact the Samsung software is not yet fully optimized for the cpu. It will improve by the next update bro

gee2012 said:
The performance difference between the 2 cpu`s is realy marginal and hardly noticable. I think the Qualcomm cpu is better and its much more open scource than the Exynos. The lag is caused by the fact the Samsung software is not yet fully optimized for the cpu. It will improve by the next update bro
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So I guess it's I9505 then. Both performances are really close (and great), making no difference at all (it's not like I'm trying to play Crysis on the device), but I9505 has better battery life and more ROM options.
Thanks guys, that's all I needed.

Zkaar said:
So I guess it's I9505 then. Both performances are really close (and great), making no difference at all (it's not like I'm trying to play Crysis on the device), but I9505 has better battery life and more ROM options.
Thanks guys, that's all I needed.
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Enjoy, and read read and read before flashing to stay out of trouble :good:

if you want a device that can be "played with" (customizations) go with the gt-i9505 (well this is the most flexible device among the s4 variants
but if you are a hardware enthusiast . . go with gt-i9500 (the hardware is worth studying)
but if you want an octa core + lte get the shv-e300s though it requires shipping from korea
and if you want a snapdragon800 variant , just wait for gt-i9506 (selected regions in the future) or ship from korea their SAMSUNG GALAXY S4 LTE-A (shv-e330s)
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Zkaar said:
So I guess it's I9505 then. Both performances are really close (and great), making no difference at all (it's not like I'm trying to play Crysis on the device), but I9505 has better battery life and more ROM options.
Thanks guys, that's all I needed.
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Yes your probably better off with the i9505, but i chose the exynos i9500 instead because i always prefered samsungs chipset. What others haven't mentioned, is that the camera quality on the i9500 is a little better compared to the i9505, gsmarena allready confirmed this.
In terms of audio quality, the i9500 is better choice as it has the superior Wolfson DAC.
The i9500 allready had around 6 updates, so its alot smoother and stable now compared to when it first came out, and there's already alot of developer support and custom roms for it.
In terms of battery life, i think both are the same, because before choosing my preferences between the i9500 or i9505 i did a few research aswell and searching on youtube, and each reviewer are about 50/50 on which has better battery life.
What ever you choice, you cant go wrong and both are good devices.

I will also add my weight behind the i9505 for the same reasons stated in the earlier replies. Concerning the faster CPU - the octacore exynos is not a true octacore, so in benchmarks you'll usually see the S600 v/s Exynos 5 Octa end up with an equal number of wins at the end. Sometimes the S600 is better, and other times, the Exynos will score higher. But the most interesting aspect that i personally love, is the much better support for the i9505. This is mainly due to the availability of the S4 Google Edition, where the sources can be adapted (only slightly) to work nicely with the i9505. The same cannot be said about the i9500 which is still lacking drivers, etc. At the end, it all depends on what you're going to do with the device. If you're not into installing custom ROMs, then you might be happier with the i9500.:cyclops:

[Q] Optimizing performance and battery life without rooting

Hello could you pease share some tips or link to guides that will help G2 opimized as much as possible performance and battery life, without rooting and using custom roms.
I want to be able to get the most out of the device on things that really matter to me like battery, messaging apps, gmail, est
thanks

lakiscy said:
Hello could you pease share some tips or link to guides that will help G2 opimized as much as possible performance and battery life, without rooting and using custom roms.
I want to be able to get the most out of the device on things that really matter to me like battery, messaging apps, gmail, est
thanks
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As far as performance this phone comes stock with really great performance, really even battery for that matter. However there is not much your going to be able to do to increase performance of apps like messaging, Gmail, etc. Those apps will already be pretty much flawless. As far as battery all you can do without root is the regular stuff like disable GPS, AUTO SYNC, use auto brightness. There are several apps that claim to help with battery. I used to use Juice Defender back a couple years ago. If you root your phone there is much more you can do. Mods, tweaks, roms, custom kernels, etc. Good luck!
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lakiscy said:
Hello could you pease share some tips or link to guides that will help G2 opimized as much as possible performance and battery life, without rooting and using custom roms.
I want to be able to get the most out of the device on things that really matter to me like battery, messaging apps, gmail, est
thanks
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As jcnbama stated its pretty sweet outta the box...but to have an all around improvement performance/battery wise you're gonna wanna root your device and install a custom rom...rooting is much simpler and much safer than on many devices...Mahdi aosp rom seems to give the most stability, performance and extreme battery life in my opinion... Good luck!

jamesd1085 said:
As jcnbama stated its pretty sweet outta the box...but to have an all around improvement performance/battery wise you're gonna wanna root your device and install a custom rom...rooting is much simpler and much safer than on many devices...Mahdi aosp rom seems to give the most stability, performance and extreme battery life in my opinion... Good luck!
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You can call me a fanboy or whatever but I've yet to find any custom ROM that outperforms stock in battery life or performance, especially stability. There are some big trade offs too like audio quality and camera (even on mahdi) which are both deal breakers for me. Sad, since I love stock android but stock ticks every box.

Art Vanderlay said:
You can call me a fanboy or whatever but I've yet to find any custom ROM that outperforms stock in battery life or performance, especially stability. There are some big trade offs too like audio quality and camera (even on mahdi) which are both deal breakers for me. Sad, since I love stock android but stock ticks every box.
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Yeah...you would have to be a fanboy to still think stock outperforms aosp in any way...especially Mahdi...benchmarks(which I don't trust to be accurate)show higher...as well as side by side tests of stock and aosp shows how muchs faster tasks are completed...But...at least as far as the g2 is concerned I can see why you love stock...I have been stuck with Samsung's touchwiz ui for my last 3 devices...it was uglyAnd downright overfilled with bloatware...but fully rooted and with a few tweaks I could see myself using stock on the g2...but I still get better stability, performance and battery life on Mahdi than I have experienced on anything hands down

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Yeah...you would have to be a fanboy to still think stock outperforms aosp in any way...especially Mahdi...benchmarks(which I don't trust to be accurate)show higher...as well as side by side tests of stock and aosp shows how muchs faster tasks are completed...But...at least as far as the g2 is concerned I can see why you love stock...I have been stuck with Samsung's touchwiz ui for my last 3 devices...it was uglyAnd downright overfilled with bloatware...but fully rooted and with a few tweaks I could see myself using stock on the g2...but I still get better stability, performance and battery life on Mahdi than I have experienced on anything hands down
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I didn't like it right off the bat. I loved cm 10.2 and I was pretty happy on Mahdi until I played music over Bluetooth. No matter how many audio tweaks and kernel tweaks I made I just couldn't get to sound good. The video camera audio was the same. I can live with the odd random reboot but the sound quality of stock is what sealed it for me.

Art Vanderlay said:
I didn't like it right off the bat. I loved cm 10.2 and I was pretty happy on Mahdi until I played music over Bluetooth. No matter how many audio tweaks and kernel tweaks I made I just couldn't get to sound good. The video camera audio was the same. I can live with the odd random reboot but the sound quality of stock is what sealed it for me.
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How long has it been since you tried it?most if not all of these bugs have been fixed...I couldn't use it due to buggyness either...I tried it after the 6-28 release and it was smooth sailing ever since...every update has continued to improve my experience and its my dd at this point...I actually do keep a backup of stock(all bloat removed and lots of optimizations) due to to some features that only come stock...but I have faster 4g and WiFi connectivity using mahdi...don't know why...I guess one could argue good and bad for both here...but I guess since touchwiz from Sammy just wasn't an option for me aosp is what I'm accustomed to...lol

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How long has it been since you tried it?most if not all of these bugs have been fixed...I couldn't use it due to buggyness either...I tried it after the 6-28 release and it was smooth sailing ever since...every update has continued to improve my experience and its my dd at this point...I actually do keep a backup of stock(all bloat removed and lots of optimizations) due to to some features that only come stock...but I have faster 4g and WiFi connectivity using mahdi...don't know why...I guess one could argue good and bad for both here...but I guess since touchwiz from Sammy just wasn't an option for me aosp is what I'm accustomed to...lol
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Its been a while since I tried it. I've been on the cloudy Roms and cloudyg3 is my daily driver now, surprisingly. Running perfect for me anyway. I'll have to give Mahdi another go before android L comes into effect. Its good to know they're perfecting it. The OP's head must be spinning now with all this information.

Why no stable root s7?

I remember when I had my s5 there was stable root options rather quickly but stable root for s7 is taking awhile. Just curious what it is about this phone that's taking a bit? Is it at&t? Samsung security? Lack of Devs?

iscream612 said:
I remember when I had my s5 there was stable root options rather quickly but stable root for s7 is taking awhile. Just curious what it is about this phone that's taking a bit? Is it at&t? Samsung security? Lack of Devs?
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Tbh as long as you don't use xposed and you flash the v15 fix, it runs just as well as stock. Using it on the g930u romantic and I get even better performance and battery life than with stock att rom
As for the time, Samsung has seriously locked this phone down. The normal kernel would not allow any changes to the system, the hash would mismatch. The engineering kernel is more permissive and allows such things. Android vulnerabilities such as towel root are also much more scarce.

dongdong6968 said:
Tbh as long as you don't use xposed and you flash the v15 fix, it runs just as well as stock. Using it on the g930u romantic and I get even better performance and battery life than with stock att rom
As for the time, Samsung has seriously locked this phone down. The normal kernel would not allow any changes to the system, the hash would mismatch. The engineering kernel is more permissive and allows such things. Android vulnerabilities such as towel root are also much more scarce.
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why not use xposed?

FreshIce21 said:
why not use xposed?
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Xposed is what makes it unstable. If you go without Xposed your rom will be ? (plus using the u rom helps)
Before I installed the u rom and rooted, my phone would lose 17% just from being locked in my pocket. Now it's only 8. For 3 hours. Works great.

There's really no point to rooting if xposed and custom ROMs are out of the question IMO
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my s7 is using U-Firmware but no xposed.. being rooted is good to rid of bloated ware apps, use ADBlock host, using screen off app (it requires rooted), freezing background apps that i dont use them and its fun to goofing around with /system and /data... and i am using iron man boot animations. there is a custom ROM working now on forum.

brianray14 said:
There's really no point to rooting if xposed and custom ROMs are out of the question IMO
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Rooting is still great if the are no custom roms (which there are)( Echoe rom is running smoothly) all it takes is a little research to learn how to mod yourself and little things that you can do to improve your phone yourself. Not knocking anyone that don't know how cause i still don't know a bunch but there is a lot of things you can do yourself to improve the phone experience. (After all, people that build roms are everyday people that learned!)

Obies said:
my s7 is using U-Firmware but no xposed.. being rooted is good to rid of bloated ware apps, use ADBlock host, using screen off app (it requires rooted), freezing background apps that i dont use them and its fun to goofing around with /system and /data... and i am using iron man boot animations. there is a custom ROM working now on forum.
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I ran the U FW for a little while but noticed that my battery was getting taxed really bad despite not having any bloat installed so I switched back to stock and it normalized.
Aside from not being able to uninstall the bloatware and change my boot ani, I can do everything you're doing. I have a package disabler (freezing apps), I have a system wide adblocker (adguard) that works perfectly well. Nova has gestures sop I can double tap to lock the screen. I personally have no use for root apps any longer. I can't install a custom kernel so can't over clock the processor, I don't need titanium backup because I'm not going to need to restore my phone after a flash, I'm not sure if viper sound mod works with S7 but I'd certainly want that again.
I'm happy with the phone as is and don't really see the need to modify it in any way aside from the visual customizations and those options are virtually limitless without root also
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dirtydodge said:
Rooting is still great if the are no custom roms (which there are)( Echoe rom is running smoothly) all it takes is a little research to learn how to mod yourself and little things that you can do to improve your phone yourself. Not knocking anyone that don't know how cause i still don't know a bunch but there is a lot of things you can do yourself to improve the phone experience. (After all, people that build roms are everyday people that learned!)
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The problem is I'm on at&t with the snapdragon processor so the phone is locked down very tight. If I had the international version, sure, I may screw around with whatever custom ROMs that are out there but I really don't feel the need. My first smartphone was a galaxy S and I didn't even have that for a month before I rooted it and slapped on some custom ROMs. I flashed that phone well over 50 times with either different ROMs or updates that required a clean flash to operate correctly. I owned a galaxy S3 and did the same thing with that phone. Owned an HTC ONE M8 and ran practically all the customs that were available for that phone too so I have had my fun with firmware customization and then some. Sadly, I couldn't go 6 months without the ROMs ****ting the bed because as you said, the ROM cookers are regular ppl too. Memory leaks were always a serious problem so I was basically CONSTANTLY troubleshooting my devices to get them to run optimally. Inevitably, when I really needed my phone for something is when these problems would occur! That got old! I'm perfectly happy with this device as is. It runs exceptionally well without me forever having to mess with it.
Have your fun. There's a lot of neat things to learn and discover and a lot of heart attacks too when you think, crap, I really screwed up this time! How am I gonna get myself out of THIS mess, lol
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brianray14 said:
I ran the U FW for a little while but noticed that my battery was getting taxed really bad despite not having any bloat installed so I switched back to stock and it normalized.
Aside from not being able to uninstall the bloatware and change my boot ani, I can do everything you're doing. I have a package disabler (freezing apps), I have a system wide adblocker (adguard) that works perfectly well. Nova has gestures sop I can double tap to lock the screen. I personally have no use for root apps any longer. I can't install a custom kernel so can't over clock the processor, I don't need titanium backup because I'm not going to need to restore my phone after a flash, I'm not sure if viper sound mod works with S7 but I'd certainly want that again.
I'm happy with the phone as is and don't really see the need to modify it in any way aside from the visual customizations and those options are virtually limitless without root also
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The problem is I'm on at&t with the snapdragon processor so the phone is locked down very tight. If I had the international version, sure, I may screw around with whatever custom ROMs that are out there but I really don't feel the need. My first smartphone was a galaxy S and I didn't even have that for a month before I rooted it and slapped on some custom ROMs. I flashed that phone well over 50 times with either different ROMs or updates that required a clean flash to operate correctly. I owned a galaxy S3 and did the same thing with that phone. Owned an HTC ONE M8 and ran practically all the customs that were available for that phone too so I have had my fun with firmware customization and then some. Sadly, I couldn't go 6 months without the ROMs ****ting the bed because as you said, the ROM cookers are regular ppl too. Memory leaks were always a serious problem so I was basically CONSTANTLY troubleshooting my devices to get them to run optimally. Inevitably, when I really needed my phone for something is when these problems would occur! That got old! I'm perfectly happy with this device as is. It runs exceptionally well without me forever having to mess with it.
Have your fun. There's a lot of neat things to learn and discover and a lot of heart attacks too when you think, crap, I really screwed up this time! How am I gonna get myself out of THIS mess, lol
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You are correct on every thing you mentioned above. I in a lot of ways are like you, i have had my ups and downs with flashing and recovering and what not. That is why i started learning how to do more myself do that i didn't flash a rom with so many things i didn't need or want. I used to run exposed on every rom and every phone for simple things that i thought were "cool" but i didn't really need. Ever since i quit using exposed and stated modding things that i actually use i quit having problems. I do still run roms, but am a lot more cautious on what i flash. But the Echoe rom (without installing exposed) is one if the smoothest roms i have ever ran. Absolutely no issues so far except swipe text does not work in the stock "Internet" App which is fixed in the updated version which i haven't upgraded to since it is still in beta. But all that aside, i still don't mind messing with things on a day to day basis and i still have the time for it.

is it recommended to root or even custom rom the galaxy a51?

Dear guys,
i'm thinking about rooting or installing even a nice custom rom on the samsung galaxy a51 i just recently bought last week. i'm not sure, but in the past on other phones like nokia 7.2 or even more earlier on sony xperia and htc, i always got problems after it. phone app didnt worked, apps crashed, stock launcher didnt work, camera quality is lower than before and such. the worst thing i ever experienced was the massive increase in battery consumption. my battery was empty in half of the time.
so how is it with galaxy a51? will it increase the experience or will i hate my decision of rooting or even better - custom rom'ing it? its more a question of opinion, since i know that it would be possible. i just dont want to ruin my new device and gain disadvantages from the things im doing. but maybe there is something good that can happen out of it, so i just simply as for your opinions and ideas

Hi!
I use the current firmware with root and get pleasure from it. Nothing flies out, everything works perfectly, the battery holds the same. But I'm having trouble assembling custom firmware (GSI), and I have one firmware, but I haven't tested it. But in the near future the performance of this firmware should be checked by another person. At the moment, topical custom firmware under the 4th. On custom firmware, surprisingly, I work many functions. But sleep did not like how the fingerprint scanner works (on some firmware is highlighted not a separate area of the screen, and the entire screen). In addition, there remains the question of the full performance of the cameras. In terms of performance, custom shells should be faster, but the Havoc I tested seemed to me to be two more glitchy than Samsung's own shell.
My opinion: if you like OneUI and you want ROOT - you can get a lot of stock firmware.

Hello,
You can try this
Note:
1. Your phone Unlock Bootloader >> Click here for tutorial Unlock Bootloader
2. TWRP >> Click here to install TWRP for A51
All files >> Click here
Here is link to my thread GSI Havoc Android 10 for Samsung Galaxy A51

p0w3r_off said:
Dear guys,
i'm thinking about rooting or installing even a nice custom rom on the samsung galaxy a51 i just recently bought last week. i'm not sure, but in the past on other phones like nokia 7.2 or even more earlier on sony xperia and htc, i always got problems after it. phone app didnt worked, apps crashed, stock launcher didnt work, camera quality is lower than before and such. the worst thing i ever experienced was the massive increase in battery consumption. my battery was empty in half of the time.
so how is it with galaxy a51? will it increase the experience or will i hate my decision of rooting or even better - custom rom'ing it? its more a question of opinion, since i know that it would be possible. i just dont want to ruin my new device and gain disadvantages from the things im doing. but maybe there is something good that can happen out of it, so i just simply as for your opinions and ideas
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Custom ROM for A51 >> https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/rom-a515x-refinedui-v1-0-oneui2-1-android10.4220373/

I am planning also to do these, unlock bootloader, install TWRP, root. What are the requirements needed for this? Version? Build? Exact model of A51? Will all applications run if I do these? Thank you