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Hi,
We are able to unlock the bootloader ...
We got root ...
My question, is it possible to repartition the storage?
For example: Right now, there is only 1GB space for internal storage.
Is it possible to create 2GB?
And if it is possible, will it be a problem if Google have another OS update?
I meant, does Android OS update will check the "original" storage "layout"?
Thanks
excellent question.
I'd like to know as well, as i already have 1.5 GB of apps & games installed on my SGS that i plan to restore to the Nexus S when it arrives
meaning i'm already over the limit, and i've not even started yet
The answer is probably no. The same question was raised on the MT4G/G2 forums regarding their internal storage and it was determined that the eMMC/storage/whatever it's called chip can only be flashed one time. After that, it is physically impossible to change how it's partitioned in any way.
Now, granted, this is a Samsung device and, thus, they may use different chips. I find it unlikely, though, that it will be any different.
there might be a chance if Nexus S is indeed another breed of the Galaxy S family.
if it's fixed size and not changeable, then it's a good news for us, we will not see the corruption problems we found on many SGS when people repeatedly formatted their Internal SD to try different things
but on the other hand, it will kinda suck, as that will really limit the amount of Apps we can install in the device.
which will put a very heavy enphasis on using App2SD even more
AllGamer said:
there might be a chance if Nexus S is indeed another breed of the Galaxy S family.
if it's fixed size and not changeable, then it's a good news for us, we will not see the corruption problems we found on many SGS when people repeatedly formatted their Internal SD to try different things
but on the other hand, it will kinda suck, as that will really limit the amount of Apps we can install in the device.
which will put a very heavy enphasis on using App2SD even more
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You know, a gigabyte for apps goes a very long way. I had 130 apps on my i9000, lots of big ones like CoPilot and some games. I never even got over the 500mb mark on using up my app storage.
Never say never, of course, but I can't imagine worrying about app space on my phone. I'm sure I'll have a new one with much better specs by next summer, which, if apps start growing in size, will have more memory.
How do you have 1.5GB of apps? I have over 150 installed, and they're only like 300MB. Granted, I don't have a ton of games, but I still think it would be hard to get that many apps.
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Hi XDA members,
I just got my new S4 and was playing around with it until i wanted to move my files from my old phone (S2) to the S4.....
I bought the 16gb version but when I plug it in it only shows 9,22 GB how come?
I know there is space needed for the rom and such but i dont think the rom needs 7gb of space?
is there a way to get my beloved GB's?
Thanks for any response
The internal memory is never a true 16Gb to begin with. It's closer to 13 or 14. I forget the reasons why, it's something to do with manufactures misrepresenting t hings slightly. For example a 1tb hdd has only about 958gb available.
Secondly, the s4 rom is indeed massive. It's up around five to six times the size of vanilla android thanks to all the features Samsung added to it.
There are ways to mitigate the problem, the newer firmware has the ability to move apps to the external sd card and if you're rooted you can use the "folder mount" app to transfer any folder to the external.
I hope that going forward Samsung will start providing 32Gb internal as standard especially if they keep adding more "features" aka bloat. In the mean time it's what we have to deal with.
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dr.m0x said:
The internal memory is never a true 16Gb to begin with. It's closer to 13 or 14. I forget the reasons why, it's something to do with manufactures misrepresenting t hings slightly. For example a 1tb hdd has only about 958gb available.
Secondly, the s4 rom is indeed massive. It's up around five to six times the size of vanilla android thanks to all the features Samsung added to it.
There are ways to mitigate the problem, the newer firmware has the ability to move apps to the external sd card and if you're rooted you can use the "folder mount" app to transfer any folder to the external.
I hope that going forward Samsung will start providing 32Gb internal as standard especially if they keep adding more "features" aka bloat. In the mean time it's what we have to deal with.
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Yeah I got myself omega rom without the bloatware but still..
oh well guess ill get myself a 32 gb sd card
So im an avid phone person as you can see from my signature and now am venturing with the S5 and actually love it so far suprisingly. What I wanted to know is how are you guys dealing with just having 16GB internal space? I think it is enough for the apps I use and since I have a 64Gb SD, there will be no media on my intneral. Just wanted to see everyone elses thougts on it.
I know back in the day you could move your apps to your SD with an app such as apps2sd but I know I saw rumors of Kit Kat killing this feature. Input?
Without the external SD, I'd doubt 16GB would be enough. But like you say, my music is stored on the external; camera stores to external. And as long as you root and run sdfix app from Google Play, permissions are the same as before.
Google are still trying to push as many users as possible to cloud storage, which has its uses but I detest the fact they are trying to kill off external SD phones in doing so.
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Without the external SD, I'd doubt 16GB would be enough. But like you say, my music is stored on the external; camera stores to external. And as long as you root and run sdfix app from Google Play, permissions are the same as before.
Google are still trying to push as many users as possible to cloud storage, which has its uses but I detest the fact they are trying to kill off external SD phones in doing so.
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Ahhh I didnt know about the add sdfix, that is exactly what I was looking for if it lets me install my apps to the external. Im going to look into it some more.
I'm using the Sandisk Ultra 64 GB Class 10 UHS 1 micro SD which is more than enough for my media needs.
My only complaint is that this specific SD has poor write speeds of only 8.77 MB/S despite the fact that Class 10 are required to have a 10 MB/s write speed. Read speeds are fine, and perform better than the advertised 30MB/S - I am getting 37MB/S read speeds.
My friend has the same SD as well as the S5 and also suffers from lower than 10MB/S write speeds.
On another note, this card seems to write at 10MB/S when its plugged straight into my PC.
I am beginning to suspect that the specific combination of the S5 and the Sandisk Ultra yields such performance.
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I'm using the Sandisk Ultra 64 GB Class 10 UHS 1 micro SD which is more than enough for my media needs.
My only complaint is that this specific SD has poor write speeds of only 8.77 MB/S despite the fact that Class 10 are required to have a 10 MB/s write speed. Read speeds are fine, and perform better than the advertised 30MB/S - I am getting 37MB/S read speeds.
My friend has the same SD as well as the S5 and also suffers from lower than 10MB/S write speeds.
On another note, this card seems to write at 10MB/S when its plugged straight into my PC.
I am beginning to suspect that the specific combination of the S5 and the Sandisk Ultra yields such performance.
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I haven't really tested the speeds out for myself but I have the same sd card.
No doubt 16 GB is enough for most people. Mind you, that's really about 12 GB of effective user space after the system files claims it's tithe.
It's tenuous for power users though. Frankly it's a crime that Samsung's so called flagship only has 16 GB when the (North American) Note3 has a default 32 GB. For myself, I like to have 20 GB+ of music alone on my phone. Yeah, it could be worse i.e. no SD card like most IOS models. But the external card speeds are abysmal compared to internal memory. There should be 32 and 64 GB models available for a flagship model.
Anyway, there is an XDA thread that does a good job of swapping the internal and external memories i.e. it designates your external card as the "internal card". You take a bit of a speed hit in exchange for 128 GB default capacity. The mod works better than the app you cited. Also note that it's a simple edit in platform.xml to revert the restrictive Kitkat permissions for the external card.
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After I reverted the permission 16GB is workable, since I can now put GPS maps on external SD, before that I had 500mb of free space left on the internal SD.
Still if you play games it's very tight, a single not-so-new game like Nova 3 takes up 2.8 GB, and it won't store the extra files on external SD either way.
I'm about to decide between buying a 32GB and 16GB S5. To properly answer "Is the 16GB internal storage good enough for you?": from those on a Samsung Galaxy S5 16GB could we get a few reports on your current available (internal storage) space.
I'd be especially grateful if you could provide:
A screenshot of your available space (Settings > Storage ?).
The number of user apps you have installed. (E.g. Titanium Backup > Batch Actions (Action button on top menu) > Backup > Backup all user apps <Values show a count of your user apps>
The current ROM you are using (e.g. Samsung Stock G900IDVU1ANG3, or Edgarf28's XtreStoLite Custom Rom, etc)
A description of what you intentionally store on the external SD card, if anything.
... but by all means just provide a text report of your available space if that's all you'd otherwise be inclined to bother with.
Bump.
A simple text report of your available space and the number of user apps you have installed, for a Samsung Galaxy S5 16B, would do!
John Bentley said:
I'm about to decide between buying a 32GB and 16GB S5. To properly answer "Is the 16GB internal storage good enough for you?": from those on a Samsung Galaxy S5 16GB could we get a few reports on your current available (internal storage) space.
I'd be especially grateful if you could provide:
A screenshot of your available space (Settings > Storage ?).
The number of user apps you have installed. (E.g. Titanium Backup > Batch Actions (Action button on top menu) > Backup > Backup all user apps <Values show a count of your user apps>
The current ROM you are using (e.g. Samsung Stock G900IDVU1ANG3, or Edgarf28's XtreStoLite Custom Rom, etc)
A description of what you intentionally store on the external SD card, if anything.
... but by all means just provide a text report of your available space if that's all you'd otherwise be inclined to bother with.
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Your decision on 16 or 32GB may be easier than you think. To my knowledge and from my inquires into Samsung, they have not actually produced any 32GB versions yet. Someone correct me if they have one, I've been looking for a while. I haven't purchased the S5 yet because the lack of the 32GB version.
Samsung has produced several Galaxy S5 32GB variants. Specifically the SM-906K, SM-906L, and SM-906S. See http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/kt/SM-G906KSIEKTO. He is Erica Griffin compariing a SM-G906S to a regular, 16GB, S5.
On XDA developers there is active, although relatively limited, development for 32GB SM-906[K|L|S] devices. See, for example, M-G906S/K/L/ S805 Info Sharing thread (Root/CWM/Custom Rom) .
I didn't know that thanks for the information. I wish they would release it in the US.
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You can import it to the US, and other countries around the world, through a "grey importer", like www.t-dimension.com. The main limitation wtih Galaxy S5 32GB SM-906[K|L|S] devices is that the range of telephony radios (3G and 4G) might not be as ideally suited to your region as the Galaxy S5 16gb devices released in your region.
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That is incorrect. 32 GB versions have been available from the start. Unless you have the misfortune of residing in Canada or the US where the major carriers agreed with Samsung that the sales of 32 GB S3's was abysmal and as a result they have no intention of distributing 32 GB S5's in North America.
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That is correct, I'm in the US. I wish they would of disclose that up front unless I missed it also.
Thanks for the information!
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It's alright. I got the 16gb one because it was 749 dollars and the 32gb one was 999 dollars....sooo yeah....
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I got the 16gb one
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I'd be grateful if you could answer my previous post (which helps with answering the original question).
John Bentley said:
I'm about to decide between buying a 32GB and 16GB S5. To properly answer "Is the 16GB internal storage good enough for you?": from those on a Samsung Galaxy S5 16GB could we get a few reports on your current available (internal storage) space.
I'd be especially grateful if you could provide:
A screenshot of your available space (Settings > Storage ?).
The number of user apps you have installed. (E.g. Titanium Backup > Batch Actions (Action button on top menu) > Backup > Backup all user apps <Values show a count of your user apps>
The current ROM you are using (e.g. Samsung Stock G900IDVU1ANG3, or Edgarf28's XtreStoLite Custom Rom, etc)
A description of what you intentionally store on the external SD card, if anything.
... but by all means just provide a text report of your available space if that's all you'd otherwise be inclined to bother with.
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Roughly 12gb free space
38 user apps installed. 7.4gb used, 4.4gb free
ANI2 ROM, cbf finding a link, but it's on sammobile
My internal storage is pretty much just for apps and downloads because Chrome defaults the download path to internal storage. Music, movies go onto my external sd.
Hellscythe said:
Roughly 12gb free space
38 user apps installed. 7.4gb used, 4.4gb free.
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Thanks very much for the reply Hellscythe. But I'm confused about whether you have 12GB or 4.4GB free.
Do you mean that you had 12GB free at factory conditions and after 38 user apps (and various Chrome downloads) you have 4.4 GB free?
G'day
My question: is a 16GB tablet enough space?
(This I wrote so any reader can quickly see if he wants to read on or not, so: for reading comfort).
Casus:
- I am probably the last on earth who buys a tablet laugh
- I found a I think nice deal: new Xperia Z2, 16GB, with original power charge cradle, 350 EUR.
- The problem: 16GB.
- I also have a bloatware HTC One SV which refuses to take updates 'because of not enough space (and I can't uninstall any apps since it is all Google standard apps that can't be uninstalled). So that triggered my thinking:
So that makes me worry: is 16GB enough space for the OS and all the stuff apps will want to install on the internal 16GB, now and in the future?
Ellaboration:
- As is said in many threads on this forum, put in a SD card and store, music, docs etc on that. Sound thinking.
- But, as I am generally rather a noob on smartphones and apps (not on FreeBSD, 'though, so not a complete 'puternoob :angel, I have no clue which part of the storage I can't control. I mean, if every app only wants it data stored on the internal disk, and if the OS will grow from (I think 4 gig now?) to suddenly 15 gig in Android 5.0 (I understood that is comng to the Z2 too), then the external SD card will be rather useless - the apps and the OS won't use it.
Of course, I'd rather have the 32GB, but that comes in at 500 EUR, so I thought I'd try to save myself the 150 EUR and spend these on flowers for my wife instead :victory:
So, will the 16GB in all fairness be enough for the OS and all the stuff apps will want to store on it (so: data on the external SD, provided of course then the installed apps will want to 'see' the external SD for reading the stored docs/movies/music/pics)?
Thank you in advance very much for any help
Bye,
I have the 16gb one, it's enough space for me I have many large games and a bunch of apps on it and I think I don't even used up half the space. Although it depends on what you plan on using your tablet for.
One way of making sure you have enough space is to root and unlock the device that way you can install custom roms which typically are smaller than the stock one, or just uninstall the bloat that comes with stock.
I don't know where you heard that android 5 will be 15 gigs but I highly doubt that it will be that big.
For me it is not enough, i have the 16GB Xperia Z phone, and i was sick of the "Not enough space" warning, so i bought the 32GB Z2 Tablet and i couldn't be happier. I have lots of games, all the apps i need. i also enjoy emulators so i can have them plus gigs of roms, and all the media i need in a 32GB SD card.
I will never, ever, buy a 16GB device.
With sd card and root you have atleast 16 + 64 GB to use for data and also for apps. Haven't try 128 GB sd card but 64 GB works fine.
It's not much more money for double the space. Seems silly not to save up a bit longer and buy the 32gb version. You can never upgrade later and apps and operating systems get bigger and bigger.
Thank you all very much for your reply
Of course, I agree, it is better to buy 32GB when you can. But given the current price offer for the 16GB, buying the 32 GB makes 16GB more costs 150 EUR, 195 USD, more.
So 16GB for 195 USD/150 EUR; GB's, the new gold :laugh:
So I didn't say Android 5.0 will be 12GB, but, I mean: I like to buy as a not 'throw away next year'-consumer; I tend to try and use my gear for 10 years (works fine for my FreeBSD servers, used to work fine with my old Nokia's as well, I have no idea how it will turn out with smartphones and tablets).
So, given that:
IF 16GB will be useless one or two years (or three, or four) down the road, I will be forced to pay 150 EUR/195 USD more now for the lousy 16GB extra.
So that is what I am trying to find out: provided I agree user data should be stored on an external card so you can leave the internal card for the OS and apps and their config and flux data, I still have no clue how many of the OS and apps will respect this rule as well. I mean: if media app X decided it can only read the media (books, audio, vids), if it resides on the internal HDD, I am forced to move media from the external SD card to the internal HDD.
Question comes up: is there some sort of mandatory Android programming rule that every app should be able to read user data from external SD cards? Or is it up to a perhaps sloppy programmer, who decides the app can only use user data when it is on the internal HDD? (Don't laugh: Windows 3.1 demanded all data on C:\ ...).
Also, I understood for some (stupid) reason Google seems to have decided apps are no longer allowed to be stored on the external SD card (?)
(Well, I do understand why Google wants this: it wants the world to use their cloud for storage and stuff: handy for subscriptions and for sales of data to governments; double the pleasure).
So I still don't know what to do :cyclops:
Thanks again for your comments; very much appreciated
I installed most of my apps and I have about 19GB free. However, I'm sure as time goes on other things will eat up that space, especially cache.
I know you can move some apps to SD, but preferably I like to keep everything on system ROM for speed. I was trying to avoid getting into the low memory dilemma with my next my phone (ran into that with my S5). I'm just not feeling Samsung's crystal ball/balloon screen vibes and I just wanted to get away from Samsung period. I'm very happy with the phone so far, but just wish they would've added the 64GB ROM or gave us the option to choose... Hopefully as Android matures, it won't become an issue for me.
I do. I would have preferred 64GB.
maruichan said:
I installed most of my apps and I have about 19GB free. However, I'm sure as time goes on other things will eat up that space, especially cache.
I know you can move some apps to SD, but preferably I like to keep everything on system ROM for speed. I was trying to avoid getting into the low memory dilemma with my next my phone (ran into that with my S5). I'm just not feeling Samsung's crystal ball/balloon screen vibes and I just wanted to get away from Samsung period. I'm very happy with the phone so far, but just wish they would've added the 64GB ROM or gave us the option to choose... Hopefully as Android matures, it won't become an issue for me.
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The 32gb was to keep the price of the phone down but you're right it would been nice to have a choice.Funny thing is I said wouldn't buy a phone without 64gb after have the s7 edge and the v20.But I really like this phone
techrider6262 said:
The 32gb was to keep the price of the phone down but you're right it would been nice to have a choice.Funny thing is I said wouldn't buy a phone without 64gb after have the s7 edge and the v20.But I really like this phone
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I bought this to replace the iPhone I use as my desk/work phone. I would not buy it for my primary phone because of the 32 GB limit. My S7 Edge is always close to full even with pics going to the SD card. 64 GB should be table stakes to enter the "flagship" phone line in 2017.
The good news for you and others there are always other phone to buy.
I've got 16gb free on my 32gb phone (not a g6).
Not an issue for me, i hate lots of apps anyway.
That's not to say i was a little disappointed, but realistically i probably won't ever need more than 32gb, just would have been nice to have.
I can't even imagine filling up 32 GB with apps. All my music is on the SD card, photos go to Google photos and some apps that aren't speed dependent are on the SD card. I've got 18gb free and 4gb of the used space is my exchange email account.
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alexp999 said:
I've got 16gb free on my 32gb phone (not a g6).
Not an issue for me, i hate lots of apps anyway.
That's not to say i was a little disappointed, but realistically i probably won't ever need more than 32gb, just would have been nice to have.
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It's not the apps to be concerned with as much as the OS will naturally gain size as updates are released/put out and naturally apps tend to increase as well (though that seems to have plateaued considerably). My last flagship phone was on the low end before and it felt like I got burnt for their oversight because I was really hurting for space before it was even paid off. I don't feel like I use a lot of apps. I don't even game on my phone. I trim/delete things regularly just to keep stuff organized.
wingzfan said:
I can't even imagine filling up 32 GB with apps. All my music is on the SD card, photos go to Google photos and some apps that aren't speed dependent are on the SD card. I've got 18gb free and 4gb of the used space is my exchange email account.
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Photos and music go to large SD so that's not the issue. I also have 1TB of cloud space. I don't game on my phone or anything. It's more about the fact a flagship phone that costs $650 is using the lower end of memory when idealistically they should be gunning for a 64GB ROM at this point to make space for larger ROMs, future changes to apps to future proof, etc. If that makes sense...