Is there any way you can assign the quick key buttons on the G2's physical keyboard to mimic the actions of the capacitive buttons on the front? Mostly looking to hit home and back. I guess for home i could assign it to a 3rd party launcher right? what about back?
Would love to know as well.
I tried this as well. It's weird how the different versions of this phone have totally different keyboards. Verizon has no trackpad, arrow keys instead, euro Desire Z has home and back on the physical keyboard, etc.
What's odd is that the capacitive buttons behave erratically - just like the Nexus One. In other words, backlighting is flaky, they are hard to see in low light conditions, randomly come on and turn off, etc.
I'd be happy with a fix that turns them on when the backlight is on....
HamNCheese said:
What's odd is that the capacitive buttons behave erratically - just like the Nexus One. In other words, backlighting is flaky, they are hard to see in low light conditions, randomly come on and turn off, etc.
I'd be happy with a fix that turns them on when the backlight is on....
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The capacitive buttons and keyboard backlight seem to be activated by the ambient light sensor. Try turning the phone towards a source of light and wait a few seconds, the lights should turn off. The opposite should happen if you point your phone away from a light source. It's slightly annoying how long it takes to register the amount of light... but I don't think it's that bad.
I'm currently considering exchanging my Note 4 (due to it's sheer size) for the Turbo, but I'm concerned about not having an LED notification.
I did however read that the Active Display works really well with notifications. The thing is, I despise having locked screens on my personal phones (work phones are different story). Does Active Display require a locked screen to work?
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I'm currently considering exchanging my Note 4 (due to it's sheer size) for the Turbo, but I'm concerned about not having an LED notification.
I did however read that the Active Display works really well with notifications. The thing is, I despise having locked screens on my personal phones (work phones are different story). Does Active Display require a locked screen to work?
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what do you mean with locked screen?
pattern security?
i can tell from my previous droid maxx that active display works on locked by pattern or unlocked phone. and you can even choose to show the notification or just the app. (i.e. active display showing the whatsapp message you just got or just the whatsapp icon to let you know that you have a new message.)
livinginavacuum said:
I'm currently considering exchanging my Note 4 (due to it's sheer size) for the Turbo, but I'm concerned about not having an LED notification.
I did however read that the Active Display works really well with notifications. The thing is, I despise having locked screens on my personal phones (work phones are different story). Does Active Display require a locked screen to work?
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Yes, it works if you don't have any lock screen setup. Actually it works better (definitely faster) imo because Active Display just opens up the app right away, when you scroll up with the notification icon. Otherwise, you scroll up on the AD icon, then get stuck having to enter your password/pin, and finally the app opens up.
As others said, you do not need security for Active Display, if it works anything like the Moto X.
I use Tasker and Secure Settings to toggle PIN lockscreen when I'm on home WiFi. If I leave home, my lockscreen is reactivated, but Active Display still works. I usually don't leave my phone sit long enough to lock during the day (30 minutes), but if it does lock, swiping the active display brings you to the lockscreen to put in your PIN. It's not the same as the normal lock screen, it's like a "popup" that only shows the keypad. It does not show the clock, alarms, etc (which I think is actually just the stock lockscreen widget).
If lockscreen is off, swiping the Active Display takes you straight to the home screen.
Hope this helps.
having swapped out my GS3 (worst phone i ever owned) for a Droid Maxx last year i can say that Active Display (now Moto Display i think?) is the greatest thing ever!...I was worried about losing the LED notification back then, but active display is just plain better...
and now it does not require a lock screen setup afaik
Thanks for the input guys, but I'm not sure if I understand how this works.
On my GS3 (and now Note 4) I turn off my locked screen so that once I click on the power button it turns on my non-locked display.
So correct me if I'm wrong. With Active Display it will let me know of any notifications when it senses my hand wave and I won't have to click on the power button to turn on my non-locked display - instead just some kind of tap patten or something?
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Thanks for the input guys, but I'm not sure if I understand how this works.
On my GS3 (and now Note 4) I turn off my locked screen so that once I click on the power button it turns on my non-locked display.
So correct me if I'm wrong. With Active Display it will let me know of any notifications when it senses my hand wave and I won't have to click on the power button to turn on my non-locked display - instead just some kind of tap patten or something?
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Correct. If there is no lock screen, the Active Display shows the clock and notification icons. On the Moto X you can swipe down to unlock to the home screen, up to go to the app with the most recent notification, or swipe left/right to dismiss the current notifications from Active Display.
Active Display it self sort of serves as a lock screen, just a slide to unlock. If you press the physical power button the phone turns on to the home screen.
But would I still be able to use the power button to go straight to the home screen similarly to the way I have it setup on my GS3 and Note 4?
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But would I still be able to use the power button to go straight to the home screen similarly to the way I have it setup on my GS3 and Note 4?
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If there was no security method selected, yes.
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If there was no security method selected, yes.
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Awesome.
And you guys are saying that the Active Display is so great that I'll prefer to turn on my non-locked display with it instead of using the power button?
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Awesome.
And you guys are saying that the Active Display is so great that I'll prefer to turn on my non-locked display with it instead of using the power button?
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Not sure how else I/we can explain it...
On the Moto X 2013, if you have Screen Lock set to none and Active Display on, you will see notifications on the screen in the order they arrive (most recent is "featured" in the ring, others are shown below it. When you touch the Active Display ring, you swipe up to go to that app/notification. If you swipe down, it just "unlocks" and goes to your home screen. Swipe left or right clears the pending notifications from Active Display. Pressing the power button on the side will go straight to the home screen.
Using Active Display with a security method will do all of those same things, but if your lock screen timeout has surpassed, you will have to put in your PIN/password before you can go to a notification from Active Display. If you press the power button instead of using Active Display, you are taken to the PIN/password screen.
I really only use my power button for turning the screen off, not on. Sometimes I do still use the power button to turn on if there is nothing on the active display. Wen it sits on a table, the screen is all black. If you move the device (even slightly), the clock will show up with an unlock icon, when there are no notifications pending. If there are notifications pending, the screen "breathes" every few seconds (10-15 or so, and I believe it gets less frequent if it sits untouched for a while), flashing the clock and notification icons until you unlock/clear them.
Now, the screenshots of Active Display look different for the Turbo because it shows multiple icons on the screen. Moto X only shows one in a white circle. The screenshots I've seen of Turbo show three. Not sure exactly how they react.
As for if you will use the screen vs. power button, I guess that's up to you.
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Not sure how else I/we can explain it...
On the Moto X 2013, if you have Screen Lock set to none and Active Display on, you will see notifications on the screen in the order they arrive (most recent is "featured" in the ring, others are shown below it. When you touch the Active Display ring, you swipe up to go to that app/notification. If you swipe down, it just "unlocks" and goes to your home screen. Swipe left or right clears the pending notifications from Active Display. Pressing the power button on the side will go straight to the home screen.
Using Active Display with a security method will do all of those same things, but if your lock screen timeout has surpassed, you will have to put in your PIN/password before you can go to a notification from Active Display. If you press the power button instead of using Active Display, you are taken to the PIN/password screen.
I really only use my power button for turning the screen off, not on. Sometimes I do still use the power button to turn on if there is nothing on the active display. Wen it sits on a table, the screen is all black. If you move the device (even slightly), the clock will show up with an unlock icon, when there are no notifications pending. If there are notifications pending, the screen "breathes" every few seconds (10-15 or so, and I believe it gets less frequent if it sits untouched for a while), flashing the clock and notification icons until you unlock/clear them.
Now, the screenshots of Active Display look different for the Turbo because it shows multiple icons on the screen. Moto X only shows one in a white circle. The screenshots I've seen of Turbo show three. Not sure exactly how they react.
As for if you will use the screen vs. power button, I guess that's up to you.
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Me replying with "awesome" = yourself and others did a superb job explaining everything to me and making this a non-concern for me regarding potentially getting the Turbo.
But totality appreciate you giving me more input on how the Active Display works, especially the breathing aspect.
Regarding using the Active Display to wake up a non-locked screen instead of the power button, I was actually curious to see if there were others who are adjusted to using the Active Display for this purpose and now prefer it over the power button.
Otherwise, I'm now really excited to go demo it tomorrow and see for myself how it works.
Cheers.
I nearly always use the screen gesture to turn on the display, usually to the home screen.
When you move the Moto X at all (I usually just tap it so it rocks to one side on the curved back, or "twist" it slightly while it is laying on the table) the active display comes up. This is usually just to check the time. You can also hold on the unlock ring and see some of the details for the current pending notifications. For example, if Fenix has a notification, I can hold the unlock ring and see the first few bits of the notification to see if I really want to unlock for that or not.
From there I can let go (nothing happens), swipe up to open Fenix, swipe down for home screen, or swipe left/right to clear that notification from Fenix.
You will get used to AD very quickly.
I didn't even think about this phone missing an LED notification. I've got an S3 as well and always have depended upon the different colors to let me know when i get a message/email, etc across the room or my desk while on the charger. I suppose I won't be charging as much anymore but its nice for those that don't keep their phone in their pocket all day. I don't always feel vibrations and am just used to depending on the LED light.
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I didn't even think about this phone missing an LED notification. I've got an S3 as well and always have depended upon the different colors to let me know when i get a message/email, etc across the room or my desk while on the charger. I suppose I won't be charging as much anymore but its nice for those that don't keep their phone in their pocket all day. I don't always feel vibrations and am just used to depending on the LED light.
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Yeah, little things like that are borderline panic worthy for some of us. TBH, I find that on average friends who have iPhones take a decent while longer to get back to me than those with Android phones or even Blackberries. Why? Because if they miss a call, sms, or email there's no way of knowing unless they actually physically touch there phone. At least this was the case last time I checked or of course they can always enable "LED Flash for Alerts"....smh.
So coming back to the topic - I gave it some thought and feel like this Active Display is probably an even better option than LEDs.
Instead of the LED notifications on our GS3s lighting up in different colors (the correlation of which I still haven't memorized even to this day), we'll now have Motorola's Active Display which allows for "breathing" when there are notifications. What this does is cause your screen to flash every couple of seconds with notification information. This is awesome because at a glance you'll now know exactly what's going on. So if you're like me and like it when your nearby phone let's you know you may have missed a call, sms, or email then this seems like it'll be quite useful. You also have the option of turning the "breathing" off at night along with managing which apps you wish to work with the AD.
At least I hope that is the case because I've never really spent a lot of time with a Moto X (only briefly on one of my friend's). So for those who are AD vets if I said something that's off please correct me.
This video also helped me understand how it works a little better (so hopefully it'll help you and others who are in the same boat):
This new AD is great and all but a lot of the time when my phone is charging at a friends house or at work, it's across the room. So I don't see anything but an LED helping me track the state from there. I'm still going to get the new phone and figure out how to deal with the difference but I think it's a stupid miss on something obvious from the manufacturer. But what do I know? Maybe it was part of the reason to keep the cost down.
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This new AD is great and all but a lot of the time when my phone is charging at a friends house or at work, it's across the room. So I don't see anything but an LED helping me track the state from there. I'm still going to get the new phone and figure out how to deal with the difference but I think it's a stupid miss on something obvious from the manufacturer. But what do I know? Maybe it was part of the reason to keep the cost down.
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Don't think we'll need to be charging our Turbos at a place other than the comfort of our own personal nightstands given the battery capacity we're getting here.
Otherwise, yeah, LEDs are nice to have for when your phone is in a non-nearby situation and you wish to quickly glance at it for an update.
For actions, I have approach for moto display turned on.
Under display, notifications are turned off.
As I understand it, the phone should wake by wave, but _NOT_ wake up the display when notifications come in.
Instead, i'm not getting it to wake by wave. The only way it'll wake by wave is if the notifications are turned on under display (in moto assist app).
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For actions, I have approach for moto display turned on.
Under display, notifications are turned off.
As I understand it, the phone should wake by wave, but _NOT_ wake up the display when notifications come in.
Instead, i'm not getting it to wake by wave. The only way it'll wake by wave is if the notifications are turned on under display (in moto assist app).
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I've noticed that too. You're not alone.
<eye roll> Why even have the options like that. Seems they put an AND statement rather than an OR in the code.
I may have a partial workaround. The notifications wake allows you to set a time window when notifications are NOT shown. I set it from 00:00 to 23:59. This keeps the phone from waking for every notification and keeps the wave to wake functional.
So, I took this a step further.
I left the time interval in place as mentioned above (12:00am to 11:59pm). This prevents the screen from turning on for each notification alert.
I was bothered by how sensitive the prox sensors were. Bring your hand anywhere near the phone and it lights up.
Disabled the approach to wake option in moto display. The display still lights up but it now requires some form of movement such as picking it up, rotate/twist, etc. It's not perfect, but gets the job done.
I was annoyed by the approach thing always lighting up my screen too. I have found that I do like the screen coming on when I move the phone though. Just bumping it lightly is sufficient to light up the screen.
I would like to tell you that it often happens when I pull the S10+ out of my pocket, so the display is not in "stand by" mode, it is not always on display, but it is slightly backlit. Classically, the display is black and shines only AOD. But when I pull it out of my pocket, instead of the classic AOD it shines for hours and even seconds and after them you can see the wallpaper of the locked display and it is slightly backlit. The display itself is dark, but it is slightly backlit and you can see the wallpaper. With the classic AOD, the display is completely black and I have set only hours, minutes, date and battery, and of course, the notification, if any. Does anyone know what it is, whether it can be turned off so that the display does not illuminate the pocket?
I have accidental touch protection on.
As far as I know proximity sensor is only accessible when you are in call, that's why other apps can't access it.
Samsung should remedy this. Because I always change the Always On setting in my pocket. Specifically - Rotation and Brightness Always On.
EDIT: It happens most when I tap wake-up.