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Our source has informed us that Android 5.1 will be launched by the end of February 2015, and a second, completely separate source that is also privy to important information regarding Android updates, confirmed it. Not only that, this is allegedly a rather large update with many interesting new features! See the changelog below:
Silent mode added after missing on Android 5.0
General improvements in system stability
Improved RAM management
Fixes for sudden app closures
Improved battery management
Excessive consumption of network devices when used Wi-Fi fixed
Issues with wireless connections fixed
Problems with Okay Google function solved
Notifications problems solved
Some sound problems experience by certain devices fixed
Other improvements and changes
Changes in the Material Design color palette (after users complaints, possibly for a higher version though)
So far there is no information about functions that it might bring, but we'll be sure to report on those as soon as we hear it.
Android 5.0 was a fantastic update, however it did bring its own list of issues, which we covered how to fix in our Android 5.0 Lollipop common problems and solutions article. That being said, Android 5.1 could get rid of many of the problems we saw here!
Android 6.0: let’s invent the ultimate Android OS
Android 5.0.1 Lollipop update: when will my device get it?
I wonder if that means ok Google will finally work with all aosp roms. I've tried the suggested fixes and the best I've been able to get is it works on any screen but not with screen off. Kind of defeats the purpose when you are trying to use it hands free while driving.
i'll believe it when i see it from Google...
kingston73 said:
I wonder if that means ok Google will finally work with all aosp roms. I've tried the suggested fixes and the best I've been able to get is it works on any screen but not with screen off. Kind of defeats the purpose when you are trying to use it hands free while driving.
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The only ROM I've seen that OK google works with screen off is sinless ROM, because its based off of googles IMG rather than aosp. Pretty solid ROM, you should give it a shot.
I'm really pumped for the Other improvements and changes. I've been wanting this feature for a long time.
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IDK?
Mr Ian B said:
Just read on android pit.com
Our source has informed us that Android 5.1 will be launched by the end of February 2015, and a second, completely separate source that is also privy to important information regarding Android updates, confirmed it. Not only that, this is allegedly a rather large update with many interesting new features! See the changelog below:
Silent mode added after missing on Android 5.0
General improvements in system stability
Improved RAM management
Fixes for sudden app closures
Improved battery management
Excessive consumption of network devices when used Wi-Fi fixed
Issues with wireless connections fixed
Problems with Okay Google function solved
Notifications problems solved
Some sound problems experience by certain devices fixed
Other improvements and changes
Changes in the Material Design color palette (after users complaints, possibly for a higher version though)
So far there is no information about functions that it might bring, but we'll be sure to report on those as soon as we hear it.
Android 5.0 was a fantastic update, however it did bring its own list of issues, which we covered how to fix in our Android 5.0 Lollipop common problems and solutions article. That being said, Android 5.1 could get rid of many of the problems we saw here!
Android 6.0: let’s invent the ultimate Android OS
Android 5.0.1 Lollipop update: when will my device get it?
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As far as I can tell and this being my first Nexus device, development is rather slow. Also to me the whole lollipop android seems very unpolished and lack luster. So many fixed things that cannot be changed without a lot of people in this community doing a lot of work. Simple things like hiding navigation bar and being able to select what one wants on the navigation bar are sorely missing and should be standard on Android. No notification LED, what the ****, even my HTC HD2 had that working and available, in fact that phone was one of the easiest and most customizable phones I've ever owned.
There are so many seemingly standard and simple things that seem to have been left out and on top of that locking the bootloader from the get go just does not scream please feel free to customize me. I thought the Nexus would be a device that, like android would support open source and many wonderful improvements by community users. I don't know, but if I was not told this is a Nexus device, I would swear it was a branded phone of a much less expensive manufacturer. I will keep it until the next update, but if they don't add even the most basic features, and some open source customizations ability to it, I guess I will have to leave the fold. Yes, this phone did not make me a fan of any kind. Nice specs, but not utilized to their full potential and one of the worst experiences out of the box. Makes me appreciate the polish of Samsung, HTC, LG and others.
vvveith said:
As far as I can tell and this being my first Nexus device, development is rather slow. Also to me the whole lollipop android seems very unpolished and lack luster. So many fixed things that cannot be changed without a lot of people in this community doing a lot of work. Simple things like hiding navigation bar and being able to select what one wants on the navigation bar are sorely missing and should be standard on Android. No notification LED, what the ****, even my HTC HD2 had that working and available, in fact that phone was one of the easiest and most customizable phones I've ever owned.
There are so many seemingly standard and simple things that seem to have been left out and on top of that locking the bootloader from the get go just does not scream please feel free to customize me. I thought the Nexus would be a device that, like android would support open source and many wonderful improvements by community users. I don't know, but if I was not told this is a Nexus device, I would swear it was a branded phone of a much less expensive manufacturer. I will keep it until the next update, but if they don't add even the most basic features, and some open source customizations ability to it, I guess I will have to leave the fold. Yes, this phone did not make me a fan of any kind. Nice specs, but not utilized to their full potential and one of the worst experiences out of the box. Makes me appreciate the polish of Samsung, HTC, LG and others.
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Slow amigo? We got root and ROMs and twrp all in less time than Samsung devices simply to get root.
Polish takes more than 1 month since hardware release. This device is brand spanking new on an entirely new and unfamiliar code base.
I had a note 4. It's a great phone feature wise however performance wise the nexus blows it out of the ball park. No lag whatsoever, i do hear the odd crackle from the speaker when starting it up and when the unlock/lock sound plays but that's it. Hope the sound improvements mentioned in the change log will address that. Looking forward to it.
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sweet that means I'll get 5.1 on my nexus 6 same time as I get 5.01
I hope this is true.
I'm hoping that the color palate change will add a darker material design. I always like the holo dark, and switching to the high contrast material design was pretty big. I like in google keyboard you can change it to dark material in the settings, but I'd like to see that on a stock ROM. (I'm waiting for a big ROM like CM, PA, Slim, or Omni to release stable, because I love the features, but I require ota )
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ignoring the fan boy post above yours.
l3uddz said:
I had a note 4. It's a great phone feature wise however performance wise the nexus blows it out of the ball park. No lag whatsoever, i do hear the odd crackle from the speaker when starting it up and when the unlock/lock sound plays but that's it. Hope the sound improvements mentioned in the change log will address that. Looking forward to it.
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I have the crackle to, thought it was another feature. Just like the disabled LED. It also does that when it's been asleep for a while and someone calls. The ring tone is distorted until the phone? wakes. Let's hope? that many people here will work long and hard to make this phone? better.
mjs2011 said:
I'm really pumped for the Other improvements and changes. I've been wanting this feature for a long time.
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lol
vvveith said:
I have the crackle to, thought it was another feature. Just like the disabled LED. It also does that when it's been asleep for a while and someone calls. The ring tone is distorted until the phone? wakes. Let's hope? that many people here will work long and hard to make this phone? better.
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In my completely uneducated opinion that sounds like a very solvable issue with audio processor priority.
i just want wifi calling....
vvveith said:
I have the crackle to, thought it was another feature. Just like the disabled LED. It also does that when it's been asleep for a while and someone calls. The ring tone is distorted until the phone�� wakes. Let's hope�� that many people here will work long and hard to make this phone�� better.
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How is his post a fanboy post? It's literally spot on. The Nexus 6 is BRAND NEW. I mean, the phone went on pre-order late October and very few have been able to get their hands on one because of it's unavailability. Despite that, we have plenty of action going on in development. It seems like you haven't bothered to check.
Also, reading your posts lately on the forum, it seems like you 'ignore' everyone that disagrees with you. Then you call others 'fanboys'.
Anyone see a problem with that?
I would love to see official supported notification LED or improved ambient display. So I wanna have a recognizable notification method of i don´t stare permanently on my mobile and don´t have to pick up.
Jrmiller said:
i just want wifi calling....
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Use hangouts and hangouts dialer and Google voice.
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Silent mode at long last.
jamcswain said:
I'm hoping that the color palate change will add a darker material design. I always like the holo dark, and switching to the high contrast material design was pretty big. I like in google keyboard you can change it to dark material in the settings, but I'd like to see that on a stock ROM. (I'm waiting for a big ROM like CM, PA, Slim, or Omni to release stable, because I love the features, but I require ota )
Sent from my Nexus 6 using XDA Free mobile app
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Seems really odd that Google releases a dark version of android back in version 4.0 but uses LCDs on their reference phones, but now they release 5.0 with bright colors and use AMOLED. It seems it should have been reversed.
Hello everyone. I've been using the stock firmware since i bought the phone but currently thinking to try cynogenmod.
What i want to ask is, does it worth to install CM as Sony's stock rom is pretty good both performance/battery consumption and UI wise, compared to many other phone like samsung which i never quite liked.
Will it improve the battery life which is sony has already done a good job on stock firmware and what other benefits will i get?
Thanks in advance.
Brick3 said:
Hello everyone. I've been using the stock firmware since i bought the phone but currently thinking to try cynogenmod.
What i want to ask is, does it worth to install CM as Sony's stock rom is pretty good both performance/battery consumption and UI wise, compared to many other phone like samsung which i never quite liked.
Will it improve the battery life which is sony has already done a good job on stock firmware and what other benefits will i get?
Thanks in advance.
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Try to use stock based rom if u don't want to loose drm keys. As cm requires an ub phone.
Brick3 said:
Hello everyone. I've been using the stock firmware since i bought the phone but currently thinking to try cynogenmod.
What i want to ask is, does it worth to install CM as Sony's stock rom is pretty good both performance/battery consumption and UI wise, compared to many other phone like samsung which i never quite liked.
Will it improve the battery life which is sony has already done a good job on stock firmware and what other benefits will i get?
Thanks in advance.
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CM based roms have terrible camera performance. U will lost ur drm keys. Its contains ur camera clarity, bravia engine and so.. So better stick with stock Sony. But performance wise CM is best..
Brick3 said:
Hello everyone. I've been using the stock firmware since i bought the phone but currently thinking to try cynogenmod.
What i want to ask is, does it worth to install CM as Sony's stock rom is pretty good both performance/battery consumption and UI wise, compared to many other phone like samsung which i never quite liked.
Will it improve the battery life which is sony has already done a good job on stock firmware and what other benefits will i get?
Thanks in advance.
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In Sony world, it is mostly personal preference. If it was a Samsung phone I would no doubt say "go for it and never look back". For a Sony, it is just you have more than one option.
What you get with Sony's stock over a pure(ish) Android;
-Options to have ClearAudio+ and XReality technologies which helps to improve music and image quality respectively from Sony.
- Stamina Mod. Without turning up and down bars into orange
- Picture correcting software which is heavily integrated into original camera software and protected by famous DRM keys. It helps smoothing the noise on the photos, coming mostly from lack of enough light. Especially night shots really benefit from it (difference not so visible on day light).
- FM Radio and some software of Sony like Playstation center and internal backup and restore software, also an Antivirus if anyone is interested in.
Bad side of Sony's software over Pure Android:
- the theme you apply directly effects the top bar. I love red and red-like colors but I don't wanna use my whatsapp with a cherry red line on top. I was hoping that would change in 5.1.1 but no luck.
- standby drain is high if no Stamina is on. Something between 5-10% over night. That's absurd considering the usage drain is fairly good.
- all those beautiful camera options only limited to 8mp option. 12mp is just pure photo (still combined with Sony's correction software if DRMs are active)
- when I try to fast scroll, sometimes the launcher jumps two pages at a time but that happens only going to the right, not happening when going to the left
- I don't know if it's only my phone but most of the time turning on the WiFi is not enough for it to auto connect to a remembered network. I have to open the network list and click on it to connect.
So, what CM or other pure Android-based ROMs offer:
- visual consistentcy among all the apps and menus. Once use stock Android you understand how odd the later added apps look in modified versions. For example Google photos and Google calendar has very familiar look and feel and behaviours. So once you get used to them you can immediately and efficiently start using Google Messages too. However that is not the case with Sony's Album or Walkman app no matter they have their functional advantages.
- super fast, super light, super light on the battery.
- sound and camera may need some fine tuning to reach to Sony level but it is possible as this device have is well known by developers and shares a very generous, open code. For example OpenCam app is perfect for doing anything you want to do with your camera, and it also comes without Mp limitations.
- there are some neat additions to original Android like theme engine or assigning volume keys to change the song or reordering the tiles on the top bar.
- per app ops to limit untrusted apps' intentions.
- more options through Xposed as it is created from a widely shared code.
The cons:
- since most of the works are based on nightlies, sometimes things can be broken for a couple of days or something working might stop working after an update. So you must decide between a tester and a careful everyday user who comes one or two days after the testers on the update schedule.
- you should find you DRM keys a safe place before unlocking your bootloader (I keep mine on Google drive) as they will be gone in order to be able to install a non-Sony ROM.
- camera quality may degrade if you are fan of super auto mod especially (personally, not).
- Xreality will not be there as it is a Sony extension. However I personally think this beautiful screen does not need any tuning to show the beauty of anything.
- no FM radio or pre installed anti virus software.
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_delice_doluca_ said:
In Sony world, it is mostly personal preference. If it was a Samsung phone I would no doubt say "go for it and never look back". For a Sony, it is just you have more than one option.
What you get with Sony's stock over a pure(ish) Android;
-Options to have ClearAudio+ and XReality technologies which helps to improve music and image quality respectively from Sony.
- Stamina Mod. Without turning up and down bars into orange
- Picture correcting software which is heavily integrated into original camera software and protected by famous DRM keys. It helps smoothing the noise on the photos, coming mostly from lack of enough light. Especially night shots really benefit from it (difference not so visible on day light).
- FM Radio and some software of Sony like Playstation center and internal backup and restore software, also an Antivirus if anyone is interested in.
Bad side of Sony's software over Pure Android:
- the theme you apply directly effects the top bar. I love red and red-like colors but I don't wanna use my whatsapp with a cherry red line on top. I was hoping that would change in 5.1.1 but no luck.
- standby drain is high if no Stamina is on. Something between 5-10% over night. That's absurd considering the usage drain is fairly good.
- all those beautiful camera options only limited to 8mp option. 12mp is just pure photo (still combined with Sony's correction software if DRMs are active)
- when I try to fast scroll, sometimes the launcher jumps two pages at a time but that happens only going to the right, not happening when going to the left
- I don't know if it's only my phone but most of the time turning on the WiFi is not enough for it to auto connect to a remembered network. I have to open the network list and click on it to connect.
So, what CM or other pure Android-based ROMs offer:
- visual consistentcy among all the apps and menus. Once use stock Android you understand how odd the later added apps look in modified versions. For example Google photos and Google calendar has very familiar look and feel and behaviours. So once you get used to them you can immediately and efficiently start using Google Messages too. However that is not the case with Sony's Album or Walkman app no matter they have their functional advantages.
- super fast, super light, super light on the battery.
- sound and camera may need some fine tuning to reach to Sony level but it is possible as this device have is well known by developers and shares a very generous, open code. For example OpenCam app is perfect for doing anything you want to do with your camera, and it also comes without Mp limitations.
- there are some neat additions to original Android like theme engine or assigning volume keys to change the song or reordering the tiles on the top bar.
- per app ops to limit untrusted apps' intentions.
- more options through Xposed as it is created from a widely shared code.
The cons:
- since most of the works are based on nightlies, sometimes things can be broken for a couple of days or something working might stop working after an update. So you must decide between a tester and a careful everyday user who comes one or two days after the testers on the update schedule.
- you should find you DRM keys a safe place before unlocking your bootloader (I keep mine on Google drive) as they will be gone in order to be able to install a non-Sony ROM.
- camera quality may degrade if you are fan of super auto mod especially (personally, not).
- Xreality will not be there as it is a Sony extension. However I personally think this beautiful screen does not need any tuning to show the beauty of anything.
- no FM radio or pre installed anti virus software.
Sent from my D6503 using XDA Free mobile app
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Thanks delice_doluca. That was just the answer I was looking for.
A few things I want to say:
-You've said that the camera is limited to 8 mp but I didn't get what you meant. I can go up to 20.7 mp.
-Cm and other rom's light weight, fast performance is due to the lack of unnecessary bloatware but I dont see how its one of their strengt as you can remove those bloatwares on stock ROM too with root access.
-There's a security software inside Cm as you said but the only difference is that its built in. On stock ROM you just download it manually and besides i'm pretty sure the security programs you're going to download from by kaspersky, avira etc will be a lot better than the cm one. Again I don't think its an advantage either. Im tryong find some good reasons to justify installing cm but I just can't find besides some minor ones as many features that is considered strength of cm you can also do it on stock ROM and im wondering why do some people prefer using cm?
Brick3 said:
Thanks delice_doluca. That was just the answer I was looking for.
A few things I want to say:
-You've said that the camera is limited to 8 mp but I didn't get what you meant. I can go up to 20.7 mp.
-Cm and other rom's light weight, fast performance is due to the lack of unnecessary bloatware but I dont see how its one of their strengt as you can remove those bloatwares on stock ROM too with root access.
-There's a security software inside Cm as you said but the only difference is that its built in. On stock ROM you just download it manually and besides i'm pretty sure the security programs you're going to download from by kaspersky, avira etc will be a lot better than the cm one. Again I don't think its an advantage either. Im tryong find some good reasons to justify installing cm but I just can't find besides some minor ones as many features that is considered strength of cm you can also do it on stock ROM and im wondering why do some people prefer using cm?
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- Camera is limited to 8mp if you want to apply scenes or choose another mode like HDR. When 20.7mp chosen, all you can do is to take the photo without any ambient or method oriented tuning. (no big deal actually, I shot at 20.7 Mp and tune it in my computer layer. However I wished there was HDR on 20.7 mp)
- do not think bloat ware only as additional apps. There are also background services, running under the OS, or other methods of the OS handling the user's or automated requests. I am not an Android developing master but I can give an example from Linux world. Last month Linux Mint released a new version and they announced their desktop environment (Cinnamon) was now using %40 less CPU even thought it had introduced more effects and options to the user. The trick was to calculate desktop's actions more efficiently and in a more harmonic way so the processes would not fight with each other. So they have knocked the CPU's door at more empty times and less frequently.
Stock Android is tailored by one team, with the same goals at their heads. Sony has another team who is also dressing it and tailoring some parts again. The Sony team is supposed to know what the first team intended and how good they are so they can make the modification exactly like they desired. However now the hybrid OS is designed by two different teams with (maybe entirety) different goals in minds. Don't get me wrong, Sony is the closest and most friendly team to the original Android project and to Google but still it is a complex effort and simplicity is everyone's friend in complex jobs.
- About the security software. Stock Sony ROM is the one which comes with security software (McAfee I guess). CM is open as a nature and you can limit user apps one by one (which is possible where root access exist, regardless of the ROM). My thinking is, all the Antivirus software is unnecessary in Android world. The one and only protection is common sense (simply don't install or clock everything )
What I have been writing should not make you want to install CM BTW CM or other stock Android - like ROMs exist mostly for the people who are saying "I wish that was the next Nexus device, like Xperia Nexus". Basically, for an Xperia device, wanting to install stock Android is just about personal joy or habits coming from another stock Android device (mostly a Nexus).
Don't look for bigger reasons as you probably will not find. All you need to have in your mind is liking stock Android more than Sony's Android and some free time to build your own device experience.
Ps: stock Android term is used for Google's own Android which is not touched by any other company (Sony, Samsung, HTC etc.)
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_delice_doluca_ said:
- Camera is limited to 8mp if you want to apply scenes or choose another mode like HDR. When 20.7mp chosen, all you can do is to take the photo without any ambient or method oriented tuning. (no big deal actually, I shot at 20.7 Mp and tune it in my computer layer. However I wished there was HDR on 20.7 mp)
- do not think bloat ware only as additional apps. There are also background services, running under the OS, or other methods of the OS handling the user's or automated requests. I am not an Android developing master but I can give an example from Linux world. Last month Linux Mint released a new version and they announced their desktop environment (Cinnamon) was now using %40 less CPU even thought it had introduced more effects and options to the user. The trick was to calculate desktop's actions more efficiently and in a more harmonic way so the processes would not fight with each other. So they have knocked the CPU's door at more empty times and less frequently.
Stock Android is tailored by one team, with the same goals at their heads. Sony has another team who is also dressing it and tailoring some parts again. The Sony team is supposed to know what the first team intended and how good they are so they can make the modification exactly like they desired. However now the hybrid OS is designed by two different teams with (maybe entirety) different goals in minds. Don't get me wrong, Sony is the closest and most friendly team to the original Android project and to Google but still it is a complex effort and simplicity is everyone's friend in complex jobs.
- About the security software. Stock Sony ROM is the one which comes with security software (McAfee I guess). CM is open as a nature and you can limit user apps one by one (which is possible where root access exist, regardless of the ROM). My thinking is, all the Antivirus software is unnecessary in Android world. The one and only protection is common sense (simply don't install or clock everything )
What I have been writing should not make you want to install CM BTW CM or other stock Android - like ROMs exist mostly for the people who are saying "I wish that was the next Nexus device, like Xperia Nexus". Basically, for an Xperia device, wanting to install stock Android is just about personal joy or habits coming from another stock Android device (mostly a Nexus).
Don't look for bigger reasons as you probably will not find. All you need to have in your mind is liking stock Android more than Sony's Android and some free time to build your own device experience.
Ps: stock Android term is used for Google's own Android which is not touched by any other company (Sony, Samsung, HTC etc.)
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I guess i'll continue to use stock ROM as i'm happy with it.
Thank you so much for this detailed answer.
why is the multi tasking so bad on cm11?
Do you get camera 2 api on cyanogens rom? If be prepared to swap if they did for manual focus
cm has media skip buttons function., that alone makes me prefer it more
I was contemplating the same as the OP. After reading the replies here I've decided to look at other options for installing a custom ROM without unlocking the bootloader.
You guys have provided some really good info in this thread, I wish others could be as informative.
Thanks
Cm is good for my nexus5, but seems it is not so good for my z2
There is this app called Super Touch that phone arena covered. Supposed to smoothen the touch experience on android by a significant margin. The developer offers no explanation as to how the app works. I've yet to test it because it is building something right now and it takes a long while to finish. From what i can make out , i think it builds some sort of scrolling cache and offloads them to GPU ? I don't know the internal android structure that well and analyzing the source if there is one , is beyond me. If there is a developer that can explain the intricate workings of this app to people , so people could stop comparing this to "snake oil" if it's legit , if it's not we can ask google to remove it from google play , that'd be great. Thanks.
The link to the article ;
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Spot...d-up-your-sluggish-Android-smartphone_id75851
I don't know if it is against forum rules to post links to articles , if it is please warn me and i will remove the link.
boltthrower56 said:
I don't know the internal android structure that well and analyzing the source if there is one , is beyond me. If there is a developer that can explain the intricate workings of this app to people , so people could stop comparing this to "snake oil" if it's legit , if it's not we can ask google to remove it from google play , that'd be great. Thanks.
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Why is this such a great deal?
Pros
* It seems to work
* It passed google's requirements and malware checks
* Does not need root
Cons
* Closed source
Just because we (you) can't comprehend how it works, is not a reason to question its viability.
Keeping it closed source and not revealing its workings is just a way to prevent competition and/or code copying.
There are lots of fake apps that pretend to be doing something you should be more worried about.
I wouldn't really worry about this one, but if you don't trust it, don't use it.
To answer your question; I would say its either one of these
* Animation caching
* Reducing element-sizes, and thus stretching it to save system resources (since the app needs to know you screen resolution)
* System optimizations for animations (Altho these things usually require root)
On a side note, since you are posting this on the Nexus 4 forums, I assume you own/use one. The article you linked clearly says older devices benefit more from this app, since newer/better devices already handle things pretty smoothly. This means that the result of this app on a Nexus 4 may be unnoticeable. Could it be that you question this app because you don't see any result?
MerynGoesAndroid said:
Why is this such a great deal?
Pros
* It seems to work
* It passed google's requirements and malware checks
* Does not need root
Cons
* Closed source
Just because we (you) can't comprehend how it works, is not a reason to question its viability.
Keeping it closed source and not revealing its workings is just a way to prevent competition and/or code copying.
There are lots of fake apps that pretend to be doing something you should be more worried about.
I wouldn't really worry about this one, but if you don't trust it, don't use it.
To answer your question; I would say its either one of these
* Animation caching
* Reducing element-sizes, and thus stretching it to save system resources (since the app needs to know you screen resolution)
* System optimizations for animations (Altho these things usually require root)
On a side note, since you are posting this on the Nexus 4 forums, I assume you own/use one. The article you linked clearly says older devices benefit more from this app, since newer/better devices already handle things pretty smoothly. This means that the result of this app on a Nexus 4 may be unnoticeable. Could it be that you question this app because you don't see any result?
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No , it could not be because i had not tested the app when i wrote that. (Had you bothered to read , you'd know.) We question everything on this forum , that's how we learn. I did not assume that it was "fake" by the way , if that's why you're hostile (and arrogant). People on other forums compared this to "snake oil". I wanted to share the app with friends so it could grow. That's why i wanted to make out how it works. I can't share this app before knowing that it's not "snake oil".
When i said i'm not "that" affiliated with Android ecosystem , i didn't mean i'm illiterate btw.
Anyway , i could already make those out from the description of the app (Yes , i too read it ). I wanted more of a technical answer but thank you , nevertheless...
On a side note , In a help thread please just answer the question if you can , skip the lectures people didn't ask for. I asked "available devs" to explain the intricate workings of an app so as to clear the air , not only did you not provide that but you tried to give me a lesson on morality. Please refrain from doing that. And please do not write a lengthy and angry reply to this. I'm just not interested in arguing with you.
boltthrower56 said:
I don't know the internal android structure that well and analyzing the source if there is one , is beyond me.
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Made me think you were new to Android development and coding in general. Normally people like this with these questions do not want/need a specific and technical answer which is why I told you to not worry about it.
I don't know if it is against forum rules to post links to articles , if it is please warn me and i will remove the link.
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Again, made me think you were new here.
if it's not we can ask google to remove it from google play , that'd be great.
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This sounded to me as if you just wanted it to be removed.
My post was not intended to sound the way you describe it, and reading it again I wonder how you came to the conclusion I was 'teaching you a lesson'. Just because I did not overflood my post with happy smileys and kind words does not mean I'm hostile and/or trying to be arrogant.
To me, your post sounds the exact same was as how you described mine.
That aside, here are my technical thoughs.
The app stores quite a lot of data on your phone, close to 7MByte on my phone, to an app-size of 2,86MByte, so I assume it makes use of some kind of caching.
It probably uses some other techniques for different element optimizations, meaning not all improvements are via caching.
My guess is it takes the animations it knows, and "replays" them, capturing the animation and storing it in its data for quick access. When you start the app and set it up, it needs time and says "building fast event for x action", which is why I think it works this way.
From the app:
When using the same smooth level, the better the GPU performance is, the smoother the operation wil be. If the GPU performance is not up to the demand, it may cause frame loss when sliding screen. Higher level may take longer time to start, a better CPU may take less time.
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The animation is probably "scaled" down in size, which makes it less computing-heavy. This also explains why the higher the setting, the longer it takes. (more compression = more computing power needed. Since a better CPU can do more instructions per second, it will be faster at rendering its own "database" of the animations, which is logical.
Not sure what the author meant with "better the GPU performance is, the smoother the operation will be". Operation could either refer to the process Super Touch does, or the process of animating the animation when using the phone. Personally I think this refers to using the GPU for rendering animations normally (without Super Touch), which can cause frame drops as he explains. GPU's with lower performance will have a harder time rendering an animation than a GPU with high preformance. Pre-rendering takes this load off of the GPU, making it more "smooth" in real performance.
With this method its can just 'grab' an animation from its memory and 'play' it instead of calculating it on-the-fly.
Looking at the permissions the apps needs, the app uses "draw over other apps". This is probably used to "show" the animations it stored instead of the animations of the app that is being used. How it is actually able to replace this animation is something Im not sure of.
The app has permission to run at startup, this is probably needed to "load" the core service that does this replacement.
I do not exactly know why it needs permission to read phone status & identity and change audio settings, but my guess would be that it is related to the power saving mode.
The developer offers no explanation as to how the app works.
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Unless he does, we can probably only assume how his app works. Decompiling the app and looking at the source might give you an answer, but this is not something I can help you with, mainly because my last decompiling experience is 3 or 4 years back.
Using it for 2 days. And I have to admit that it works, really well, without harming battery, which is a amazing win-win solution.
I asked on the Google play store and get the answer from the developer: the app offload the working process from the CPU to the GPU, hence everything gets much smoother and the performance level depends on your device's GPU.
After optimization, sliding is very smooth.
ROM Ideas !
I made this thread so that people can discuss and post what features they would like, in a custom ROM.
I believe that alot of roms available today have lots of unused features, which use valuable storage space and RAM , and so i am going to be making a rom, Which has features that the community want, not what the rom maker thinks people will like
Please Do Comment Below !
Cyanogenmod is already good enough for me, but great idea
we need the stereo speakers mod
Don't want to be demanding, but:
CyanogenMod like stable
Lockscreen blur
LED light for notifications
Inbiult Night mode (like Bluelight filter)
Inbuilt adblock
Better bass for earphones (or inbuilt V4A)
Regular updates / Bug fixes
Forever Alone said:
Don't want to be demanding, but:
CyanogenMod like stable
Lockscreen blur
LED light for notifications
Inbiult Night mode (like Bluelight filter)
Inbuilt adblock
Better bass for earphones (or inbuilt V4A)
Regular updates / Bug fixes
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Awesome !, i like it .
one comment though, the LED light can only be activated when the charger is plugged in physically, this is because of a hardware restriction.
Can't we have double tap to wake up features?
Double tap to sleep would be good as well.
I'm just good with a slim or pa build
and a good, FULLY FEATURED kernel, packed to the gills with every module humanly possible
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ROM Ideas !
so i am going to be making a rom, Which has features that the community want, not what the rom maker thinks people will like
Please Do Comment Below !
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In clear words-
1. Smart stay (screen stays on while reading PDFs, Docs,etc)
2.Tap to wake.
3. Colour LED notifications. (like blackberry)
4. "Default write disk" option in settings>storage
5. Usb storage mode. [mtp has very very very slow and laggy data transfer ability]
Bro first of all thanks for this thread so we can share our favorite features with u.... I personally like a ported rom such as xperia rom, MIUI rom, flyme os, color os etc roms.. Please do consider my suggestion... ��
1. USB Ejector/Remove Button from notification area like cm13.
2. Pie
sziraqui said:
In clear words-
1. Smart stay (screen stays on while reading PDFs, Docs,etc)
2.Tap to wake.
3. Colour LED notifications. (like blackberry)
4. "Default write disk" option in settings>storage
5. Usb storage mode. [mtp has very very very slow and laggy data transfer ability]
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Forget the led unless you plan on re-engineering the hardware.
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Bro first of all thanks for this thread so we can share our favorite features with u.... I personally like a ported rom such as xperia rom, MIUI rom, flyme os, color os etc roms.. Please do consider my suggestion... ��
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i too prefer ROMs like that only
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Forget the led unless you plan on re-engineering the hardware.
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Yeah , colour led is not physically possible on the Moto G3 unless you feel like opening the phone up, and modding the hardware itself
Tel864 said:
Forget the led unless you plan on re-engineering the hardware.
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sad to know. I thought some app could set different colours on the led.
I like simple Roms with key features only, constant builds from PA or CrDroid would make it.
And of course a custom kernel, custom Roms without a good kernel are not worthy hehe.
When we will get the rom?
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When we will get the rom?
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Started on it about an hour ago . If anyone would like to join in on the development and get an early peek at the rom , please send me a private message
One thing most people are looking for in a rom
Almost everyone is expecting a rom to be battery friendly. So, it would be good to consider this aspect in your rom.
Yes , but with a good battery level comes lower performance. Finding the right balance is difficult
Hi Folks,
As you know, there are lot meet ups happening in India for Honor/Huawei users, currently for Honor 6X and Honor 8 Pro only, but we may see these coming to other devices as well based on the response. It may be limited for older devices where software support is not possible but eventually newer devices like, Honor 5C, Honor 8, Honor 6X and honor 8 pro would be included (if they get more requests for 5C and 8).
In this thread, lets discuss on various points/feedback and feature request that we want to raise it to the Honor teams during meetup and eventually taken up to the R&D team for consideration to enhance the end user experience in a positive way.
Anybody attending these meet ups with Honor team can put forward these points and we wish these points will be considered to provide a happy and positive user experience.
Created a thread in Honor 6X section as well so that 6X user can fill their points there and we can refer any of these thread for unique points to proceed with.
6X thread
Good luck.
Attached is the list of point raised during Honor meet up in Chennai and compiled by our fellow member @amulbaby (Abhishek)
View attachment Points_from_Chennai_Meet-up.pdf
6X thread- https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-6x/how-to/feature-request-feedback-upcoming-emui-t3669806
As we already discussed on other thread few of the points
removal of knuckle feature
camera lag on EMUI 5 (while opening only)
Over exposed image while using front camera
timely Kernel sources for all the device
Double tap to wake up
uniform OTA acorss all devices
Expecting for expert opinion, new points, feedback, feature request from @gopinaidu77 @venugopalu007 @PalakMi @RedSkull23 @clsA @jsbeyond @amulbaby @joe2k01 add other if I missed anyone.
Update
I have a updated one @shashank1320 , the one which I made for Mumbai.
Same has been submitted to R & D for reference.
And regarding Kernel sources, Recent removal of official firmwares which directly affect development of Custom ROMs, I have already written a brief mail describing how important it is to have a Open source environment in Android Platform and that going this way would only reduce sales numbers.
Where in house processing restricts the possibility of constant upgrades, having the sources available to developers will only help us all as developers will be able to include security patches, custom kernel compatibility, additional features of further Android iterations and not wait for the OEM to release.
What we heard from Mr. Naveen at Chennai was that due to the closed loop nature of the processor, they take a base version of Android and try to build EMUI on top with all possible optimizations and iterations , which takes time to release as other OEMs mostly have to work with Qualcomm where they get most thing pre baked .They like to keep update frequency lower than other brands owing to the same reason.
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What we heard from Mr. Naveen at Chennai was that due to the closed loop nature of the processor, they take a base version of Android and try to build EMUI on top with all possible optimizations and iterations , which takes time to release as other OEMs mostly have to work with Qualcomm where they get most thing pre baked .They like to keep update frequency lower than other brands owing to the same reason.
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Thanks for sharing.
Yes, regarding this. he conveyed the same message. Other OEMs using the SD version of processor gets the faster updated because Qualcomm directly work in collaboration with Google for new Android updates and SD models receive it quickly and other OEMs which has the custom Skin on Top of Android takes their own time to customize and tweak the new updates, test and release for public.
Also These OEMs keep the update frequency less unless there is anything major to be addressed like bugs, security concerns etc. If the OTA update given is stable and phone works fine without any user complaints then they avoid rolling out the updates to avoid any mess with the working updates.
Whatever you said is what we have heard as well.
Going by the number of inconsistencies we have on 8 pro, its high time to see a update. Easy to lose out of competitive market where people keep changing devices so often nowadays.
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Whatever you said is what we have heard as well.
Going by the number of inconsistencies we have on 8 pro, its high time to see a update. Easy to lose out of competitive market where people keep changing devices so often nowadays.
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Couldn't agree more bro. And Huawei needs to understand from user perspective. Hardware wise devices are good but if no custom development then people opt for redmi, Moto etc.
Ok. Some points from me also.
1. The current settings screen is very cluttered and the use of colorful icons makes it look childish IMO. I would suggest if going forward with the Oreo update they keep it closer to stock and reduce the clutter in settings.
Also if they can keep the notifications and QS area more stock.
Overall, more closer to stock UI.
2. Addition of equaliser and improvement in loudness over earphones.
3. A slight improvement in sharpness in rear camera. Also improvement in low light shots.
Can't think of anymore because others are already listed.
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Ok. Some points from me also.
1. The current settings screen is very cluttered and the use of colorful icons makes it look childish IMO. I would suggest if going forward with the Oreo update they keep it closer to stock and reduce the clutter in settings.
Also if they can keep the notifications and QS area more stock.
Overall, more closer to stock UI.
2. Addition of equaliser and improvement in loudness over earphones.
3. A slight improvement in sharpness in rear camera. Also improvement in low light shots.
Can't think of anymore because others are already listed.
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Thanks. Hope Huawei consider all these points.
We will collect and raise all to them in next meet up.
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I have a updated one @shashank1320 , the one which I made for Mumbai.
Same has been submitted to R & D for reference.
And regarding Kernel sources, Recent removal of official firmwares which directly affect development of Custom ROMs, I have already written a brief mail describing how important it is to have a Open source environment in Android Platform and that going this way would only reduce sales numbers.
Where in house processing restricts the possibility of constant upgrades, having the sources available to developers will only help us all as developers will be able to include security patches, custom kernel compatibility, additional features of further Android iterations and not wait for the OEM to release.
What we heard from Mr. Naveen at Chennai was that due to the closed loop nature of the processor, they take a base version of Android and try to build EMUI on top with all possible optimizations and iterations , which takes time to release as other OEMs mostly have to work with Qualcomm where they get most thing pre baked .They like to keep update frequency lower than other brands owing to the same reason.
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How not being agree with everything you said, it's just the same i was thinking
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Ok. Some points from me also.
1. The current settings screen is very cluttered and the use of colorful icons makes it look childish IMO. I would suggest if going forward with the Oreo update they keep it closer to stock and reduce the clutter in settings.
Also if they can keep the notifications and QS area more stock.
Overall, more closer to stock UI.
2. Addition of equaliser and improvement in loudness over earphones.
3. A slight improvement in sharpness in rear camera. Also improvement in low light shots.
Can't think of anymore because others are already listed.
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Good inputs there.
Just a few points from my limited knowledge:
1. Oreo as such groups settings menu into refined categories, so that is expected going forward. However, there would be some variations, which they might not agree to eliminate as it is subjective.
2. I was asked by R&D team as to what are all the immediate concerns, few days back. I had written to them set of 7-8 points including double tap to wake, Camera optimizations(front mainly), audio output betterment and interface availability for fine tuning etc. So, thats already sent across. Insisted them to send it along with the next OTA.
3. In the PDF I have attached, as well as in the Chennai meet, we pointed out how amazing the rear optics are as well as the little inconsistencies existing. Better edge detection algo for identifying spaces between two subjects separated by a short distance, general improvement were highlighted in that. They did nod for that , not sure when it would come as an update.
Nevertheless, cameras in this phone are a thing of beauty and very closely rival some entry n mid range DSLRs.
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Couldn't agree more bro. And Huawei needs to understand from user perspective. Hardware wise devices are good but if no custom development then people opt for redmi, Moto etc.
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Exactly. Atleast if xda development was active, we could see some security patches, upgrades from ported Mods n stuff, but with the removal of firmware sources, they are looking at sealing their own fate.
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Thanks. Hope Huawei consider all these points.
We will collect and raise all to them in next meet up.
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Pl. see my post above. I have covered most of them in my personal conversations with Honor India. Hope to see it being implemented soon.
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Also if they can keep the notifications and QS area more stock.
Overall, more closer to stock UI.
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That's what I exactly think of, leave the notifications in panel and lockscreen like stock
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Just a few points from my limited knowledge:
1. Oreo as such groups settings menu into refined categories, so that is expected going forward. However, there would be some variations, which they might not agree to eliminate as it is subjective.
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Thanks and I understand that. They will surely rearrange settings because Oreo has done that.
What I actually wanted to say is that the icons used in the settings are somewhat childish. It would be great if they are somewhat more professional looking.
I can live with that QS area but Emui curves the corners of the notifications and that somewhat doesn't fit with the QS panel above which doesn't have curved corners.
So, it's sort of a mismatch. If they could remove those curved corners from notifications, would be great.
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One big point for them. DITCH THE IOS LOOK.
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One big point for them. DITCH THE IOS LOOK.
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I feel they have already ditched that a lot. They did a commendable job on nougat.
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I feel they have already ditched that a lot. They did a commendable job on nougat.
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Nah. Since EMUI 4, they are trying really hard to mimic ios. Unlike Touchwiz, ZenUI and others, they have a distinct look.
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Nah. Since EMUI 4, they are trying really hard to mimic ios. Unlike Touchwiz, ZenUI and others, they have a distinct look.
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Well, different opinions.
Nougat version of emui is a lot better than Kitkat and Marshmallow ones.
There's still a lot of space for improvement though
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