Hi Folks,
As you know, there are lot meet ups happening in India for Honor/Huawei users, currently for Honor 6X and Honor 8 Pro only, but we may see these coming to other devices as well based on the response. It may be limited for older devices where software support is not possible but eventually newer devices like, Honor 5C, Honor 8, Honor 6X and honor 8 pro would be included (if they get more requests for 5C and 8).
In this thread, lets discuss on various points/feedback and feature request that we want to raise it to the Honor teams during meetup and eventually taken up to the R&D team for consideration to enhance the end user experience in a positive way.
Anybody attending these meet ups with Honor team can put forward these points and we wish these points will be considered to provide a happy and positive user experience.
Created a thread in Honor 6X section as well so that 6X user can fill their points there and we can refer any of these thread for unique points to proceed with.
6X thread
Good luck.
Attached is the list of point raised during Honor meet up in Chennai and compiled by our fellow member @amulbaby (Abhishek)
View attachment Points_from_Chennai_Meet-up.pdf
6X thread- https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-6x/how-to/feature-request-feedback-upcoming-emui-t3669806
As we already discussed on other thread few of the points
removal of knuckle feature
camera lag on EMUI 5 (while opening only)
Over exposed image while using front camera
timely Kernel sources for all the device
Double tap to wake up
uniform OTA acorss all devices
Expecting for expert opinion, new points, feedback, feature request from @gopinaidu77 @venugopalu007 @PalakMi @RedSkull23 @clsA @jsbeyond @amulbaby @joe2k01 add other if I missed anyone.
Update
I have a updated one @shashank1320 , the one which I made for Mumbai.
Same has been submitted to R & D for reference.
And regarding Kernel sources, Recent removal of official firmwares which directly affect development of Custom ROMs, I have already written a brief mail describing how important it is to have a Open source environment in Android Platform and that going this way would only reduce sales numbers.
Where in house processing restricts the possibility of constant upgrades, having the sources available to developers will only help us all as developers will be able to include security patches, custom kernel compatibility, additional features of further Android iterations and not wait for the OEM to release.
What we heard from Mr. Naveen at Chennai was that due to the closed loop nature of the processor, they take a base version of Android and try to build EMUI on top with all possible optimizations and iterations , which takes time to release as other OEMs mostly have to work with Qualcomm where they get most thing pre baked .They like to keep update frequency lower than other brands owing to the same reason.
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What we heard from Mr. Naveen at Chennai was that due to the closed loop nature of the processor, they take a base version of Android and try to build EMUI on top with all possible optimizations and iterations , which takes time to release as other OEMs mostly have to work with Qualcomm where they get most thing pre baked .They like to keep update frequency lower than other brands owing to the same reason.
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Thanks for sharing.
Yes, regarding this. he conveyed the same message. Other OEMs using the SD version of processor gets the faster updated because Qualcomm directly work in collaboration with Google for new Android updates and SD models receive it quickly and other OEMs which has the custom Skin on Top of Android takes their own time to customize and tweak the new updates, test and release for public.
Also These OEMs keep the update frequency less unless there is anything major to be addressed like bugs, security concerns etc. If the OTA update given is stable and phone works fine without any user complaints then they avoid rolling out the updates to avoid any mess with the working updates.
Whatever you said is what we have heard as well.
Going by the number of inconsistencies we have on 8 pro, its high time to see a update. Easy to lose out of competitive market where people keep changing devices so often nowadays.
amulbaby said:
Whatever you said is what we have heard as well.
Going by the number of inconsistencies we have on 8 pro, its high time to see a update. Easy to lose out of competitive market where people keep changing devices so often nowadays.
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Couldn't agree more bro. And Huawei needs to understand from user perspective. Hardware wise devices are good but if no custom development then people opt for redmi, Moto etc.
Ok. Some points from me also.
1. The current settings screen is very cluttered and the use of colorful icons makes it look childish IMO. I would suggest if going forward with the Oreo update they keep it closer to stock and reduce the clutter in settings.
Also if they can keep the notifications and QS area more stock.
Overall, more closer to stock UI.
2. Addition of equaliser and improvement in loudness over earphones.
3. A slight improvement in sharpness in rear camera. Also improvement in low light shots.
Can't think of anymore because others are already listed.
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K.khiladi said:
Ok. Some points from me also.
1. The current settings screen is very cluttered and the use of colorful icons makes it look childish IMO. I would suggest if going forward with the Oreo update they keep it closer to stock and reduce the clutter in settings.
Also if they can keep the notifications and QS area more stock.
Overall, more closer to stock UI.
2. Addition of equaliser and improvement in loudness over earphones.
3. A slight improvement in sharpness in rear camera. Also improvement in low light shots.
Can't think of anymore because others are already listed.
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Thanks. Hope Huawei consider all these points.
We will collect and raise all to them in next meet up.
amulbaby said:
I have a updated one @shashank1320 , the one which I made for Mumbai.
Same has been submitted to R & D for reference.
And regarding Kernel sources, Recent removal of official firmwares which directly affect development of Custom ROMs, I have already written a brief mail describing how important it is to have a Open source environment in Android Platform and that going this way would only reduce sales numbers.
Where in house processing restricts the possibility of constant upgrades, having the sources available to developers will only help us all as developers will be able to include security patches, custom kernel compatibility, additional features of further Android iterations and not wait for the OEM to release.
What we heard from Mr. Naveen at Chennai was that due to the closed loop nature of the processor, they take a base version of Android and try to build EMUI on top with all possible optimizations and iterations , which takes time to release as other OEMs mostly have to work with Qualcomm where they get most thing pre baked .They like to keep update frequency lower than other brands owing to the same reason.
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How not being agree with everything you said, it's just the same i was thinking
K.khiladi said:
Ok. Some points from me also.
1. The current settings screen is very cluttered and the use of colorful icons makes it look childish IMO. I would suggest if going forward with the Oreo update they keep it closer to stock and reduce the clutter in settings.
Also if they can keep the notifications and QS area more stock.
Overall, more closer to stock UI.
2. Addition of equaliser and improvement in loudness over earphones.
3. A slight improvement in sharpness in rear camera. Also improvement in low light shots.
Can't think of anymore because others are already listed.
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Good inputs there.
Just a few points from my limited knowledge:
1. Oreo as such groups settings menu into refined categories, so that is expected going forward. However, there would be some variations, which they might not agree to eliminate as it is subjective.
2. I was asked by R&D team as to what are all the immediate concerns, few days back. I had written to them set of 7-8 points including double tap to wake, Camera optimizations(front mainly), audio output betterment and interface availability for fine tuning etc. So, thats already sent across. Insisted them to send it along with the next OTA.
3. In the PDF I have attached, as well as in the Chennai meet, we pointed out how amazing the rear optics are as well as the little inconsistencies existing. Better edge detection algo for identifying spaces between two subjects separated by a short distance, general improvement were highlighted in that. They did nod for that , not sure when it would come as an update.
Nevertheless, cameras in this phone are a thing of beauty and very closely rival some entry n mid range DSLRs.
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shashank1320 said:
Couldn't agree more bro. And Huawei needs to understand from user perspective. Hardware wise devices are good but if no custom development then people opt for redmi, Moto etc.
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Exactly. Atleast if xda development was active, we could see some security patches, upgrades from ported Mods n stuff, but with the removal of firmware sources, they are looking at sealing their own fate.
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shashank1320 said:
Thanks. Hope Huawei consider all these points.
We will collect and raise all to them in next meet up.
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Pl. see my post above. I have covered most of them in my personal conversations with Honor India. Hope to see it being implemented soon.
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Also if they can keep the notifications and QS area more stock.
Overall, more closer to stock UI.
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That's what I exactly think of, leave the notifications in panel and lockscreen like stock
amulbaby said:
Just a few points from my limited knowledge:
1. Oreo as such groups settings menu into refined categories, so that is expected going forward. However, there would be some variations, which they might not agree to eliminate as it is subjective.
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Thanks and I understand that. They will surely rearrange settings because Oreo has done that.
What I actually wanted to say is that the icons used in the settings are somewhat childish. It would be great if they are somewhat more professional looking.
I can live with that QS area but Emui curves the corners of the notifications and that somewhat doesn't fit with the QS panel above which doesn't have curved corners.
So, it's sort of a mismatch. If they could remove those curved corners from notifications, would be great.
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One big point for them. DITCH THE IOS LOOK.
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sniperlife:D said:
One big point for them. DITCH THE IOS LOOK.
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I feel they have already ditched that a lot. They did a commendable job on nougat.
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I feel they have already ditched that a lot. They did a commendable job on nougat.
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Nah. Since EMUI 4, they are trying really hard to mimic ios. Unlike Touchwiz, ZenUI and others, they have a distinct look.
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Nah. Since EMUI 4, they are trying really hard to mimic ios. Unlike Touchwiz, ZenUI and others, they have a distinct look.
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Well, different opinions.
Nougat version of emui is a lot better than Kitkat and Marshmallow ones.
There's still a lot of space for improvement though
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Just read on android pit.com
Our source has informed us that Android 5.1 will be launched by the end of February 2015, and a second, completely separate source that is also privy to important information regarding Android updates, confirmed it. Not only that, this is allegedly a rather large update with many interesting new features! See the changelog below:
Silent mode added after missing on Android 5.0
General improvements in system stability
Improved RAM management
Fixes for sudden app closures
Improved battery management
Excessive consumption of network devices when used Wi-Fi fixed
Issues with wireless connections fixed
Problems with Okay Google function solved
Notifications problems solved
Some sound problems experience by certain devices fixed
Other improvements and changes
Changes in the Material Design color palette (after users complaints, possibly for a higher version though)
So far there is no information about functions that it might bring, but we'll be sure to report on those as soon as we hear it.
Android 5.0 was a fantastic update, however it did bring its own list of issues, which we covered how to fix in our Android 5.0 Lollipop common problems and solutions article. That being said, Android 5.1 could get rid of many of the problems we saw here!
Android 6.0: let’s invent the ultimate Android OS
Android 5.0.1 Lollipop update: when will my device get it?
I wonder if that means ok Google will finally work with all aosp roms. I've tried the suggested fixes and the best I've been able to get is it works on any screen but not with screen off. Kind of defeats the purpose when you are trying to use it hands free while driving.
i'll believe it when i see it from Google...
kingston73 said:
I wonder if that means ok Google will finally work with all aosp roms. I've tried the suggested fixes and the best I've been able to get is it works on any screen but not with screen off. Kind of defeats the purpose when you are trying to use it hands free while driving.
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The only ROM I've seen that OK google works with screen off is sinless ROM, because its based off of googles IMG rather than aosp. Pretty solid ROM, you should give it a shot.
I'm really pumped for the Other improvements and changes. I've been wanting this feature for a long time.
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IDK?
Mr Ian B said:
Just read on android pit.com
Our source has informed us that Android 5.1 will be launched by the end of February 2015, and a second, completely separate source that is also privy to important information regarding Android updates, confirmed it. Not only that, this is allegedly a rather large update with many interesting new features! See the changelog below:
Silent mode added after missing on Android 5.0
General improvements in system stability
Improved RAM management
Fixes for sudden app closures
Improved battery management
Excessive consumption of network devices when used Wi-Fi fixed
Issues with wireless connections fixed
Problems with Okay Google function solved
Notifications problems solved
Some sound problems experience by certain devices fixed
Other improvements and changes
Changes in the Material Design color palette (after users complaints, possibly for a higher version though)
So far there is no information about functions that it might bring, but we'll be sure to report on those as soon as we hear it.
Android 5.0 was a fantastic update, however it did bring its own list of issues, which we covered how to fix in our Android 5.0 Lollipop common problems and solutions article. That being said, Android 5.1 could get rid of many of the problems we saw here!
Android 6.0: let’s invent the ultimate Android OS
Android 5.0.1 Lollipop update: when will my device get it?
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As far as I can tell and this being my first Nexus device, development is rather slow. Also to me the whole lollipop android seems very unpolished and lack luster. So many fixed things that cannot be changed without a lot of people in this community doing a lot of work. Simple things like hiding navigation bar and being able to select what one wants on the navigation bar are sorely missing and should be standard on Android. No notification LED, what the ****, even my HTC HD2 had that working and available, in fact that phone was one of the easiest and most customizable phones I've ever owned.
There are so many seemingly standard and simple things that seem to have been left out and on top of that locking the bootloader from the get go just does not scream please feel free to customize me. I thought the Nexus would be a device that, like android would support open source and many wonderful improvements by community users. I don't know, but if I was not told this is a Nexus device, I would swear it was a branded phone of a much less expensive manufacturer. I will keep it until the next update, but if they don't add even the most basic features, and some open source customizations ability to it, I guess I will have to leave the fold. Yes, this phone did not make me a fan of any kind. Nice specs, but not utilized to their full potential and one of the worst experiences out of the box. Makes me appreciate the polish of Samsung, HTC, LG and others.
vvveith said:
As far as I can tell and this being my first Nexus device, development is rather slow. Also to me the whole lollipop android seems very unpolished and lack luster. So many fixed things that cannot be changed without a lot of people in this community doing a lot of work. Simple things like hiding navigation bar and being able to select what one wants on the navigation bar are sorely missing and should be standard on Android. No notification LED, what the ****, even my HTC HD2 had that working and available, in fact that phone was one of the easiest and most customizable phones I've ever owned.
There are so many seemingly standard and simple things that seem to have been left out and on top of that locking the bootloader from the get go just does not scream please feel free to customize me. I thought the Nexus would be a device that, like android would support open source and many wonderful improvements by community users. I don't know, but if I was not told this is a Nexus device, I would swear it was a branded phone of a much less expensive manufacturer. I will keep it until the next update, but if they don't add even the most basic features, and some open source customizations ability to it, I guess I will have to leave the fold. Yes, this phone did not make me a fan of any kind. Nice specs, but not utilized to their full potential and one of the worst experiences out of the box. Makes me appreciate the polish of Samsung, HTC, LG and others.
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Slow amigo? We got root and ROMs and twrp all in less time than Samsung devices simply to get root.
Polish takes more than 1 month since hardware release. This device is brand spanking new on an entirely new and unfamiliar code base.
I had a note 4. It's a great phone feature wise however performance wise the nexus blows it out of the ball park. No lag whatsoever, i do hear the odd crackle from the speaker when starting it up and when the unlock/lock sound plays but that's it. Hope the sound improvements mentioned in the change log will address that. Looking forward to it.
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sweet that means I'll get 5.1 on my nexus 6 same time as I get 5.01
I hope this is true.
I'm hoping that the color palate change will add a darker material design. I always like the holo dark, and switching to the high contrast material design was pretty big. I like in google keyboard you can change it to dark material in the settings, but I'd like to see that on a stock ROM. (I'm waiting for a big ROM like CM, PA, Slim, or Omni to release stable, because I love the features, but I require ota )
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ignoring the fan boy post above yours.
l3uddz said:
I had a note 4. It's a great phone feature wise however performance wise the nexus blows it out of the ball park. No lag whatsoever, i do hear the odd crackle from the speaker when starting it up and when the unlock/lock sound plays but that's it. Hope the sound improvements mentioned in the change log will address that. Looking forward to it.
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I have the crackle to, thought it was another feature. Just like the disabled LED. It also does that when it's been asleep for a while and someone calls. The ring tone is distorted until the phone? wakes. Let's hope? that many people here will work long and hard to make this phone? better.
mjs2011 said:
I'm really pumped for the Other improvements and changes. I've been wanting this feature for a long time.
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lol
vvveith said:
I have the crackle to, thought it was another feature. Just like the disabled LED. It also does that when it's been asleep for a while and someone calls. The ring tone is distorted until the phone? wakes. Let's hope? that many people here will work long and hard to make this phone? better.
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In my completely uneducated opinion that sounds like a very solvable issue with audio processor priority.
i just want wifi calling....
vvveith said:
I have the crackle to, thought it was another feature. Just like the disabled LED. It also does that when it's been asleep for a while and someone calls. The ring tone is distorted until the phone�� wakes. Let's hope�� that many people here will work long and hard to make this phone�� better.
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How is his post a fanboy post? It's literally spot on. The Nexus 6 is BRAND NEW. I mean, the phone went on pre-order late October and very few have been able to get their hands on one because of it's unavailability. Despite that, we have plenty of action going on in development. It seems like you haven't bothered to check.
Also, reading your posts lately on the forum, it seems like you 'ignore' everyone that disagrees with you. Then you call others 'fanboys'.
Anyone see a problem with that?
I would love to see official supported notification LED or improved ambient display. So I wanna have a recognizable notification method of i don´t stare permanently on my mobile and don´t have to pick up.
Jrmiller said:
i just want wifi calling....
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Use hangouts and hangouts dialer and Google voice.
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Silent mode at long last.
jamcswain said:
I'm hoping that the color palate change will add a darker material design. I always like the holo dark, and switching to the high contrast material design was pretty big. I like in google keyboard you can change it to dark material in the settings, but I'd like to see that on a stock ROM. (I'm waiting for a big ROM like CM, PA, Slim, or Omni to release stable, because I love the features, but I require ota )
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Seems really odd that Google releases a dark version of android back in version 4.0 but uses LCDs on their reference phones, but now they release 5.0 with bright colors and use AMOLED. It seems it should have been reversed.
Our axon 7 uses a 240hz pwm to adjust brightness. In the s7 forum a developer solves this by modding the kernel:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/amoled-pwm-s7-edge-t3517739/
themostunique said:
Our axon 7 uses a 240hz pwm to adjust brightness. In the s7 forum a developer solves this by modding the kernel:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/amoled-pwm-s7-edge-t3517739/
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I agree. Devs of Lineage OS can perhaps add this?
i Support this idea, we need it.
themostunique said:
Our axon 7 uses a 240hz pwm to adjust brightness. In the s7 forum a developer solves this by modding the kernel:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/amoled-pwm-s7-edge-t3517739/
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I also would like to see such improvement in our device!
+1
maybe @genesixxbf3 could integrate it in Llama Sweet Kernel
and @Unjustified Dev or @OrdenKrieger in LineageOS 14.1. and coming 15 also
Thx for this @themostunique
yeah thats one of the things that always bothered me if it could be implemented not only on LOS or customs ROMs but also on stock ones specially the upcoming oreo
Lets hope LOS 15 will have this thing/improvement&tweak added
I really wish someone could achieve this mod for our Axon 7. The PWM on this device is unbearable and I decided it wasn't worth the constant headaches and eyestrain, so I've kept mine in a drawer for the past 7-8 months and used my ZUK Z2 instead.
I found someone who made this mod for the Samsung Galaxy S8: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/development/amoled-pwm-s8-t3716663
P650SE said:
I really wish someone could achieve this mod for our Axon 7. The PWM on this device is unbearable and I decided it wasn't worth the constant headaches and eyestrain, so I've kept mine in a drawer for the past 7-8 months and used my ZUK Z2 instead.
I found someone who made this mod for the Samsung Galaxy S8: https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8+/development/amoled-pwm-s8-t3716663
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I can only support your wish, but few people in custom scene care about health mods... What a pity...
This one needs a talented kernel dev like @Kranoner, who looked into it but found it to lot pf a hassle to do it specially as it needs also some blob stuff... And obviously he left the scene by now like @NFound
Maybe @SaintZ93 can take a look into it and integrate in his Schwifty kernel
Or even @OrdenKrieger and @Unjustified Dev could integrate it into future LOS releases what would have the benefit to have it on all other ROMs bases on LOS right out of the box...
Or maybe @Oki get's enthusiastic about it and takes this as his new challenge after finishing his TWRP mods...
But then again... Who cares about health these days anyway... Really sad that such mods don't have the attention they earn. So let's just hope and be positive!
Legends like @Chainfire used to develop health solutions that even found their way in official releases by now... Like blue light and warm color filters during night time that he pioneered with his cf.lumen that I still use till today as I didn't find anything more advanced and customisable then his tool, altough it became standard in official android releases by now and his tool was last updated 18 months ago
Gachmuret said:
I can only support your wish, but few people in custom scene care about health mods... What a pity...
This one needs a talented kernel dev like @Kranoner, who looked into it but found it to lot pf a hassle to do it specially as it needs also some blob stuff... And obviously he left the scene by now like @NFound
Maybe @SaintZ93 can take a look into it and integrate in his Schwifty kernel
Or even @OrdenKrieger and @Unjustified Dev could integrate it into future LOS releases what would have the benefit to have it on all other ROMs bases on LOS right out of the box...
Or maybe @Oki get's enthusiastic about it and takes this as his new challenge after finishing his TWRP mods...
But then again... Who cares about health these days anyway... Really sad that such mods don't have the attention they earn. So let's just hope and be positive!
Legends as @Chainfire used to develop health solutions that even found their way in official releases by now... Like blue light and warm color filters during night time that he pioneered with his cf.lumen that I still use till today as I didn't find anything more advanced and customisable then his tool, altough it became standard in official android releases by now and his tool was last updated 18 months ago
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I have looked into this and to me it is not worth all the struggle it really is to implement it into our kernels. Literally have to re-write the entire display files because thats based on samsung files, we would have to convert it to the zte files. Proper blob edits are needed, as well as device tree related files. This is something that could take months to do and no offense but I will pass on that. Maybe some of the other devs might, but they have more important stuff to fix/make.
Edit: However I'll keep an eye on it from time to time and see how it produces.
Gachmuret said:
I can only support your wish, but few people in custom scene care about health mods... What a pity...
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You really don't need to tag everyone you can think of. The point is to bring a post to someone's attention who might not have a subscription to the thread. Unless you think Chainfire (who has nothing to do with this phone) or NFound (who bailed when he couldn't ransom his ROMs for more money) will do something for you, best not bother them.
Do you know what the default PWM frequency is set to? I don't recall it being looked into yet, but I may have missed it. That Galaxy S8 mod states the default GS8 PWM freq is 240, which is indeed far too low.
If you or anyone else who would like this to be implemented could look into what exactly is going on with the Axon 7 screen currently and what needs to be ported, it might help along your request.
Masterjuggler said:
Do you know what the default PWM frequency is set to? I don't recall it being looked into yet, but I may have missed it. That Galaxy S8 mod states the default GS8 PWM freq is 240, which is indeed far too low.
If you or anyone else who would like this to be implemented could look into what exactly is going on with the Axon 7 screen currently and what needs to be ported, it might help along your request.
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Well, just look at the OP it says it is also 240:
themostunique said:
Our axon 7 uses a 240hz pwm to adjust brightness. In the s7 forum a developer solves this by modding the kernel:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development/amoled-pwm-s7-edge-t3517739/
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But I didn't measure it by myself... So maybe @themostunique can shed some light onto this
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I have looked into this and to me it is not worth all the struggle it really is to implement it into our kernels. Literally have to re-write the entire display files because thats based on samsung files, we would have to convert it to the zte files. Proper blob edits are needed, as well as device tree related files. This is something that could take months to do and no offense but I will pass on that. Maybe some of the other devs might, but they have more important stuff to fix/make.
Edit: However I'll keep an eye on it from time to time and see how it produces.
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Thank you for actually looking at it!
Could it be of any help for any dev that our device has the same display as the Google Pixel XL (Marlin) and is manufactured by Samsung with model nr S6E3HA3
ChazzMatt said:
Same 1440p AMOLED display as Pixel XL
YES, the Pixel XL and the ZTE Axon 7 use the exact same 1440p AMOLED Samsung panel.
New Leaks Highlight Nexus Marlin Details (Pixel XL)
https://www.xda-developers.com/151309-2/
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Hey.. First of all two things, i am a fan of stock os.. Used a Nexus 5 previously.. Bought this for the experience of google software extremely disappointed..
Two, i have no grudge against Xiaomi.. In fact i think its the most vfm phone offering there is.. And i hav bought around 5 Mi phones for my family..
The os experience is too buggy.. Freezes, Gboard bug, dialer lag, shrieking sound while playing videos in chrome.. And the most major gripe i have with the device.. The phone & contacts app not being able to link various accounts.. All isee in fb pages and flipkart are mi fans hailing the camera.. Whatever review is posted its being moderated.. I feel even the online reviews for the device are sponsored reviews.. Cos not even a single review has mentioned the contact linking issue which is a major irritation & is one of the first things we notice..
When i put this in Mi India FB page along with the fact that the os is built by Mi not Google, they deleted my comment & upon bringing this to the attention of page admins they deleted my comment.. same words in flipkart were termed as abusive..
I hope the Mi A1 xda members can bring this out to the attention of Mi & Google.. Via twitter, fb, feed back app everything.. Slow updates can be tolerated but atleast give uz bug free updates & make Google Dialer & Google contacts the default over aosp dialer & contact apps..
Hope Mi A1 can turn out to be a poor mans pixel.. But we need to do our part.. Please post in FB & twitter and bring out the bugs to the notice of developers..
Good hardware will always be let down by poor software which is the case in Mi A1..
your concern is valid, but sadly paid warriors and fanboys would hunt you down either for "abusing" xiaomi or for "dont expect everything from a cheap smartphone".
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your concern is valid, but sadly paid warriors and fanboys would hunt you down either for "abusing" xiaomi or for "dont expect everything from a cheap smartphone".
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I hate the "What more can you expect from such a cheap phone" and "There is no other phone that provides these features at this price point" excuse.
How about wanting the features it does have to work properly?
Is that too much to expect from a phone?
adfds said:
I hate the "What more can you expect from such a cheap phone" and "There is no other phone that provides these features at this price point" excuse.
How about wanting the features it does have to work properly?
Is that too much to expect from a phone?
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Exactly, all that the user really wants is a smooth UI, not everyone likes to stick around forums to keep a check on bugfixes, that too from an Android one device. Enough rant, or the fanboys will be triggered.
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neojith said:
Hey.. First of all two things, i am a fan of stock os.. Used a Nexus 5 previously.. Bought this for the experience of google software extremely disappointed..
Two, i have no grudge against Xiaomi.. In fact i think its the most vfm phone offering there is.. And i hav bought around 5 Mi phones for my family..
The os experience is too buggy.. Freezes, Gboard bug, dialer lag, shrieking sound while playing videos in chrome.. And the most major gripe i have with the device.. The phone & contacts app not being able to link various accounts.. All isee in fb pages and flipkart are mi fans hailing the camera.. Whatever review is posted its being moderated.. I feel even the online reviews for the device are sponsored reviews.. Cos not even a single review has mentioned the contact linking issue which is a major irritation & is one of the first things we notice..
When i put this in Mi India FB page along with the fact that the os is built by Mi not Google, they deleted my comment & upon bringing this to the attention of page admins they deleted my comment.. same words in flipkart were termed as abusive..
I hope the Mi A1 xda members can bring this out to the attention of Mi & Google.. Via twitter, fb, feed back app everything.. Slow updates can be tolerated but atleast give uz bug free updates & make Google Dialer & Google contacts the default over aosp dialer & contact apps..
Hope Mi A1 can turn out to be a poor mans pixel.. But we need to do our part.. Please post in FB & twitter and bring out the bugs to the notice of developers..f
Good hardware will always be let down by poor software which is the case in Mi A1..
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Hey, oreo should fix all the specified issues, they are using Google Dialer/Phone in new build + duplicate contacts issue is fixed.
Are you sure that Contacts app is not Google's? I am no fan of Xiaomi, and I also feel let down by this mobile, but I think Google makes that app, and so it's their fault, not Xiaomi's.
Glad the Google Dialer and Contacts in the Android 8 beta replaced the AOSP versions. This was my biggest complaint when I bought the phone, also that the camera2api isn't enabled which could turn the camera into a better one...
I think the Oreo update will bring much improvements over Nougat, but I think it'll not be perfect. Hopefully they release the kernel sources on the release of Oreo so we can finally build custom ROMs. Keeping my fingers crossed...
whoadood said:
Are you sure that Contacts app is not Google's? I am no fan of Xiaomi, and I also feel let down by this mobile, but I think Google makes that app, and so it's their fault, not Xiaomi's.
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Yes, I have heard about this. That's why I am still saving my rants for Oreo [emoji23]
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While I haven't encountered your issues, I do sympathize with you! It must really suck to buy something, and then be shut down for talking about the problems that you have faced!
And yes, Xiaomi fanboys need to chill the **** out, and see the horrible mess of a software that Xiaomi has made. The hardware is decent enough for the price (even though I believe Redmi Note 4 is a better, cheaper phone and they have cut slight corners in battery department) but the software is what reeled a lot of people in - including you and me, and many other people who bought this phone.
The phone could've been a lot better, but the devs of Xiaomi are neither releasing the kernel nor releasing Oreo within the promised time. I'd be surprized if they managed to release the first batch of Oreo updates by this month ( just 2 days till 2017 ends).
StomaNL said:
Glad the Google Dialer and Contacts in the Android 8 beta replaced the AOSP versions. This was my biggest complaint when I bought the phone, also that the camera2api isn't enabled which could turn the camera into a better one...
I think the Oreo update will bring much improvements over Nougat, but I think it'll not be perfect. Hopefully they release the kernel sources on the release of Oreo so we can finally build custom ROMs. Keeping my fingers crossed...
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Camera 2api won't be enabled by default, but yes, once kernel sources are out we'll have our own fixes.
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No idea what I'm doing wrong, but during past 3 months I had:
- zero freezes (not counting well known and already resolved ambient display bug)
- zero reboots
- zero lags
- no bugs with dialer, contacts, gboard
SW wise it's pretty much on the same level as my old Nexus 5X. The main difference for me is better performance of Mi A1, though at the expense of worse camera and hissing noise.
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No idea what I'm doing wrong, but during past 3 months I had:
- zero freezes (not counting well known and already resolved ambient display bug)
- zero reboots
- zero lags
- no bugs with dialer, contacts, gboard
SW wise it's pretty much on the same level as my old Nexus 5X. The main difference for me is better performance of Mi A1, though at the expense of worse camera and hissing noise.
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I too have NO issues except the headphone hissing, but that doesn't mean we should claim that the issues others are facing are "over-exggerations", that's the whole premise of my comment here. We are all consumers, we should support each other, rather than fighting for a company that doesn't even know we exist.
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_mysiak_ said:
No idea what I'm doing wrong, but during past 3 months I had:
- zero freezes (not counting well known and already resolved ambient display bug)
- zero reboots
- zero lags
- no bugs with dialer, contacts, gboard
SW wise it's pretty much on the same level as my old Nexus 5X. The main difference for me is better performance of Mi A1, though at the expense of worse camera and hissing noise.
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My A1 performed than I expected, got it since day one and only had one forced reboot. Next to the multitouch issues I had no complaint about the performance of the phone. Came from a Nexus 5X and I definitely love this phone, but on the software side there are many improvements possible. It's definitely not stock Android like the Nexus, which is a shame...
Though I have to add that I also faced the duplicate contacts issue, spent a whole hour merging my contacts. [emoji28]
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StomaNL said:
My A1 performed than I expected, got it since day one and only had one forced reboot. Next to the multitouch issues I had no complaint about the performance of the phone. Came from a Nexus 5X and I definitely love this phone, but on the software side there are many improvements possible. It's definitely not stock Android like the Nexus, which is a shame...
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Still it's too early to judge, I am being optimistic to see the rest issues fixed by Oreo update, and if Xiaomi doesn't, well then it would be a huge blow to Xiaomi themselves, and even to Google's Android one's sanctity.
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pooniaprashant said:
I too have NO issues except the headphone hissing, but that doesn't mean we should claim that the issues others are facing are "over-exggerations", that's the whole premise of my comment here. We are all consumers, we should support each other, rather than fighting for a company that doesn't even know we exist.
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Well, some issues are indeed "over-exaggerations" and can be solved in minutes even without root (e.g. AOSP vs Google contacts). Others will need root to fix, and some can't be solved by ourselves. This is where it makes sense to turn back to vendor. But they don't give a sh*t about XDA or FB, it makes no sense to complain this way. Use built in feedback app and/or MIUI bug subforum.
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StomaNL said:
Came from a Nexus 5X and I definitely love this phone, but on the software side there are many improvements possible. It's definitely not stock Android like the Nexus, which is a shame...
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I'm honestly curious what differences do you see comparing SW with Nexus 5X. For me it's exactly the same (Nexus Nougat vs. Mi A1 Nougat), but maybe because I'm using Nova launcher and other 3rd party apps..?
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they don't give a sh*t about XDA or FB, it makes no sense to complain this way.
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Oh they do, that's what PR is. Still all i am saying is its wrong to decide what issue is big and whats not for others. If you feel you can help, comment, if you feel you can't, then don't, thats the premise on which xda is built. This whole logic of bullying, arguing, mocking and calling names isn't civic and informative.
_mysiak_ said:
No idea what I'm doing wrong, but during past 3 months I had:
- zero freezes (not counting well known and already resolved ambient display bug)
- zero reboots
- zero lags
- no bugs with dialer, contacts, gboard
SW wise it's pretty much on the same level as my old Nexus 5X. The main difference for me is better performance of Mi A1, though at the expense of worse camera and hissing noise.
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The hissing noise was a deal breaker for me. I sold mine for that reason. I will again buy it if the oreo update solves it. Other wise I loved the phone. I really wish it did not have that problem.
pooniaprashant said:
If you feel you can help, comment, if you feel you can't, then don't, thats the premise on which xda is built.
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Exactly my point, there are several threads and posts describing how some of the bugs can be fixed, but many people don't want the fix/workaround, they want only to complain I will mention it again, what prevents you (or anyone else) to freeze AOSP contacts and install Google contacts from Play store? Nothing. But then they couldn't complain that Xiaomi included AOSP contacts and not Google version..
I'm sure that if we would find a solution for every bug OP mentioned, his response would be "but I want Xiaomi to fix it!". And in my eyes, this approach has nothing in common with the "good old XDA", but rather turns it into another MIUI forum.
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adfds said:
The hissing noise was a deal breaker for me. I sold mine for that reason. I will again buy it if the oreo update solves it. Other wise I loved the phone. I really wish it did not have that problem.
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I hate the hissing noise as well (had the same issue with Nexus 5X and certain headphones). As there is no custom kernel yet, I solved it by limiting myself to use only headphones which do not have this issue (+ HW dongle for those which have this issue).
So far I've faced no issues other than the hiss and the ambient notifications or perhaps the startle me when someone calls or pings me bugs. Only recently I started facing delayed notifications due to my own idiocy of clearing the google framework data for "faster update". I hope it comes out soon. Also can anyone confirm if substratum andromeda works on oreo build of our device or not. Currently it is on sale and I'm considering buying it. I have a ****load of themes that I used on my previous phone Zenfone 2 Laser which had my own oms enabled build of lineage os on it. I miss it a lot. In the camera department, my old phone beats my new phone many times. The focusing is much more faster and better thanks to the laser and overall, it was an amazing camera considering it costs just half of what I paid for Mi A1. Hope they enable or at least release sources for this good piece of hardware. I know no Mi person is listening to this, but to all Xiaomi fans, its a good device not a perfect one.
_mysiak_ said:
Exactly my point, there are several threads and posts describing how some of the bugs can be fixed, but many people don't want the fix/workaround, they want only to complain I will mention it again, what prevents you (or anyone else) to freeze AOSP contacts and install Google contacts from Play store? Nothing. But then they couldn't complain that Xiaomi included AOSP contacts and not Google version..
I'm sure that if we would find a solution for every bug OP mentioned, his response would be "but I want Xiaomi to fix it!". And in my eyes, this approach has nothing in common with the "good old XDA", but rather turns it into another MIUI forum.
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I hate the hissing noise as well (had the same issue with Nexus 5X and certain headphones). As there is no custom kernel yet, I solved it by limiting myself to use only headphones which do not have this issue (+ HW dongle for those which have this issue).
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what headphones did you use?
Hey Folks, while working on My next Snappatch Version was i able to fix the biggest Problems on the XZ Premium which should also affect other Xperias. Here are the main Points:
-Camera Noise (Solved)
-Display Quality (Solved)
-Audio Output Quality (Solved)
-Microphone Handling (Solved)
In conlcusion:
I added and enabled some Camera Services and Functions to enhance the Quality and to allow full Google Camera Mod Support.
I added and enabled Display Services and Functions to deliver a more Natural Output besides HDR Support and Adaptive Backlight capabilities.
I added and enabled Audio Services, Functions and Libraries from Qualcomm and SONY Oreo Firmwares to enhance the Output Quality over all Sources like Videos, Music and the main System.
Last but not least better Microphone Handling. Adapted and ehanced from many Android Devices and Qualcomm Documentations to deliver better Recognition and Input Quality over both Mics on top and bottom of the Device.
Nothing against switching from Stock to AOSP anymore. The benefits of Snappatched AOSP over Stock are huge. Latest SDK, full Substratum Support, better Audio and Visual Quality (In and Output), better Performance (Shadowgun Ledgends on Ultra - 60FPS, No heat, no glitches), more freedom of UI Layouts, better App Support, faster Storage Speeds, newer Kernel, Smoother UI, Adaptive Icon Support, Pixel Features and so on. The Snappatch for the XZP is coming soon and i Hope i can raise the Interest on AOSP on Xperias with this!
Forget Stock! This is the next Level! Love My XZP now...
Stay tuned and try it by Yourself!
I hope that you are right. But i want to try it very bad want i want a good working aosp! I CANT WAIT!!!
I'm on 8142 dual SIM I'm willing to try too
:cyclops: Ufff!!! sounds amazing !!! can't wait to test it
G8142 here also. Can't wait to try this out
I think I will unlock my bootloader ?
Can't wait for some reviews
I would really like to get some advanced Feedback and compares between Stock and AOSP. RAW alone should be worth the Bootloader unlock and going away from Stock. SONY does a really great Job on the Sources for our AOSP Bases and everything runs really well compared to other Devices like from LG. One Thing that really bothers Me is the buggy TWRP on our XZP. CPU Temp isn't showing right, MTP fails 90% of the Time and AROMA has a Displaying Bug. Since the Snappatch is coming with My own crafted AROMA Installer will we face a invisible Utility, but i will make a Video showing how to easily flash the Patch anyways on our Devices (Side by Side with working AROMA on the Axon 7).
Hope @Myself5 can solve the TWRP Issues one Day, and that more Users will pay attention to him and his Work on our Forums! Thanks a lot Mate for contributing that much to our Devices, and Sorry for People like this "FartyParty" Guy! Much respect for You, i know how it feels to be on XDA sometimes...
Miustone said:
Hey Folks, while working on My next Snappatch Version was i able to fix the biggest Problems on the XZ Premium which should also affect other Xperias. Here are the main Points:
-Camera Noise (Solved)
-Display Quality (Solved)
-Audio Output Quality (Solved)
-Microphone Handling (Solved)
In conlcusion:
I added and enabled some Camera Services and Functions to enhance the Quality and to allow full Google Camera Mod Support.
I added and enabled Display Services and Functions to deliver a more Natural Output besides HDR Support and Adaptive Backlight capabilities.
I added and enabled Audio Services, Functions and Libraries from Qualcomm and SONY Oreo Firmwares to enhance the Output Quality over all Sources like Videos, Music and the main System.
Last but not least better Microphone Handling. Adapted and ehanced from many Android Devices and Qualcomm Documentations to deliver better Recognition and Input Quality over both Mics on top and bottom of the Device.
Nothing against switching from Stock to AOSP anymore. The benefits of Snappatched AOSP over Stock are huge. Latest SDK, full Substratum Support, better Audio and Visual Quality (In and Output), better Performance (Shadowgun Ledgends on Ultra - 60FPS, No heat, no glitches), more freedom of UI Layouts, better App Support, faster Storage Speeds, newer Kernel, Smoother UI, Adaptive Icon Support, Pixel Features and so on. The Snappatch for the XZP is coming soon and i Hope i can raise the Interest on AOSP on Xperias with this!
Forget Stock! This is the next Level! Love My XZP now...
Stay tuned and try it by Yourself!
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dude send your paypal account, dinner on me <3
cant wait to see this baby up and running
Yes I agree we all should donate for all the hard work and time invested yes send me your PayPal address
Miustone said:
I would really like to get some advanced Feedback and compares between Stock and AOSP. RAW alone should be worth the Bootloader unlock and going away from Stock. SONY does a really great Job on the Sources for our AOSP Bases and everything runs really well compared to other Devices like from LG. One Thing that really bothers Me is the buggy TWRP on our XZP. CPU Temp isn't showing right, MTP fails 90% of the Time and AROMA has a Displaying Bug. Since the Snappatch is coming with My own crafted AROMA Installer will we face a invisible Utility, but i will make a Video showing how to easily flash the Patch anyways on our Devices (Side by Side with working AROMA on the Axon 7).
Hope @Myself5 can solve the TWRP Issues one Day, and that more Users will pay attention to him and his Work on our Forums! Thanks a lot Mate for contributing that much to our Devices, and Sorry for People like this "FartyParty" Guy! Much respect for You, i know how it feels to be on XDA sometimes...
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Man this is wonderful a i cant wait for your patch,but twrp,i remember you created a patch called light patch and aroma installer on that worjs with our device,[email protected] he created carbon rom and twrp for G8141 so carbon works for us but twrp not.
madshark2009 said:
dude send your paypal account, dinner on me <3
cant wait to see this baby up and running
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grodri19721 said:
Yes I agree we all should donate for all the hard work and time invested yes send me your PayPal address
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That makes Me very glad and proud, Thanks Guys! Sadly can i not use PayPal, but i would really appreciate if People would Donate to My Mother. She had a Hard Time and is now caring My Grandma which is diseased. I think she would be very thankful and happy about some Donations based on My Work here. I will talk to her and if it's ok do i share her Paypal Address on My Thread or Signatur somehow. Think that would be a nice Idea if You're also ok with that!
Blackghosthm said:
Man this is wonderful a i cant wait for your patch,but twrp,i remember you created a patch called light patch and aroma installer on that worjs with our device,[email protected] he created carbon rom and twrp for G8141 so carbon works for us but twrp not.
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Strange. I Googled a lot about this and this was always a Issues with some TWRP Recoveries. Most of the Time did it helped to use older TWRP Images but the last one gives just a Black Screen after booting into it. I will test a Copy of My old Light Patch again and take a look on whats different! Thanks for the Hint!
Miustone said:
That makes Me very glad and proud, Thanks Guys! Sadly can i not use PayPal, but i would really appreciate if People would Donate to My Mother. She had a Hard Time and is now caring My Grandma which is diseased. I think she would be very thankful and happy about some Donations based on My Work here. I will talk to her and if it's ok do i share her Paypal Address on My Thread or Signatur somehow. Think that would be a nice Idea if You're also ok with that!
Strange. I Googled a lot about this and this was always a Issues with some TWRP Recoveries. Most of the Time did it helped to use older TWRP Images but the last one gives just a Black Screen after booting into it. I will test a Copy of My old Light Patch again and take a look on whats different! Thanks for the Hint!
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If it possible release your patch for less than 5 hours because my internet time is going to end.please.
How was RAW support achieved?
From what I've seen, this wasn't possible before because there were no drivers that enabled that with the used camera chip.
And there's still one thing missing; SloMo support. Is there a chance this can be added as well?
Blackghosthm said:
If it possible release your patch for less than 5 hours because my internet time is going to end.please.
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I had trouble with the Camera Configs (Camera not starting anymore), but solved it and added more of them. Last remaining Problem are Issues with Google Service Audio (Music and Video not playing due to failing Audio Configs). Think i need more Time to solve this, but the release is close...
4rz0 said:
How was RAW support achieved?
From what I've seen, this wasn't possible before because there were no drivers that enabled that with the used camera chip.
And there's still one thing missing; SloMo support. Is there a chance this can be added as well?
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It's all there on AOSP. Camera2 API is supported but not configured right (There are X Lines for the Cameras), i've seen the same on the Z1 and Z3 (https://forum.xda-developers.com/cr...ussion-development-custom-rom-t3479108/page11) some Years back, and i was sure it's all depending on this right now. Other Xperias may have the same Camera Problems since AOSP is coming with just the barely minimum of Build Properties and Configs. That's also the Case on the most other Devices and AOSP based ROM and one of the Reasons for doing My Patch. Some missing Things are causing Issues (Like Microphone Problems), and others do just bring a lack of Features (Like with the Camera and Display, Audio, etc.).
It's pretty Time intense to test all this Entries and Values but it's really worth the Time. And if i would do a OS would i start with that Things before changing the Kernel and adding ROM Features, but i can only talk for Me. Not sure how much Time ROM Devs put into building of AOSP for the own Devices, but i work for sure at least 40 Hours on One Major Release of My Patch (Including copying, flashing, testing and editing).
AROMA was also really Time Intense but i removed the Installer over Night and edited the Updater Script to flash the recommended Options without it. Here is a little List of what gets flashed:
-Original Oreo Pixel Bootanimation
-Original Oreo Pixel Ringtones, Alarms, Notifications
-HTC U 11 UI Sounds, Ringtones, Alarms, Notifications
-Prop Patch (Including many changes and Configs)
-Snappatch Core System (Including the mainly needed Content)
-Snappatch Audio System (Based on XZ Premium Oreo Stock)
-Snappatch Emojis (EmojiOne replacement Font)
-Magisk Stable V16
-Busybox with many Applets, SElinux & Magisk Support
-GApps (Barely minimum Set)
And that's it for now. It includes all of the Features of the Patch, less optional but i can ensure a great Experience with this Setup! Like said am i now about to fix the last Bugs which are Audio Config related and after that will come the Thread with the new Release. Hope You will like it Folks!
BR
Stupid xda -__-
Keep up the good work brother
I'm done for now! Release is in the next 24 Hours...
Changelog can be found here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ak5DsenMjuSyypPBAjQact6MhtsE2MRFlvCHLTn9uHA/edit?usp=sharing
I removed the Audio System for now due to Issues with Xperias AOSP ROMs but i'll work on it again after releasing the actual Patch. Sounds already a lot better even without the replacement Libs and Configs! Stay tuned...
Sony 8142 dual SIM ?? Please
grodri19721 said:
Sony 8142 dual SIM ?? Please
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Yes
can't wait to have a try.
bro you've contributed a lot to our device
Thank you so much!
Disclaimer and Obligatory Background: I'm posting this here because the Discussions section seems the most appropriate one for this post. Mods are welcome to move/relocate the post if they see fit. I work in PR (Marketing/Social Media/Content Creation) and spend most of my days on the phone. Therefore, I consider myself a heavy user. You should read the following review with that in mind.
I've been using MIUI 10 (10.2.2.0 EU) for about three weeks now as my daily driver. The mod is a decent attempt by the MIUI team to bring MIUI 10 to the A2/6X but not the best out there considering the 6X should run on MIUI to begin with. Keep in mind that MIUI 10 is still under development and things may change at a moment's notice. This account of my experience is only valid at the time of writing and I won't consider myself responsible of what you do with your phone after you've read it. Now that we're good with all of that, let's take a look at what works and what I think would benefit from a bit more attention.
What Works
Phone/Data/Basic Coms: Everything that concerns your day-to-day phoning habits works well. I haven't encountered any of the issues mentioned on the forum when it comes to volumes, coverage, call quality or loss of data. MIUI 10 re-introduces call recording which might be a useful feature for some but I haven't had the chance/need to test it out for myself.
Swipe Gestures: the iPhone-like navigation gestures are actually a welcome addition to the ROM - at least in my opinion. Coming from Android One it took me a bit of time to get used to the new thing and I still accidentally archive e-mails on Gmail when I'm trying to close the app every now and then but the gestures do make your life simpler once you learn how to use them and I know they're one of the few things I'll miss if I ever go back to OTA.
Battery Life: battery performances seem pretty much the same I had back on Android One and the phone withstands heavy usage quite well. I might need to plug it in at the end of a particularly busy day - especially if I've had a particularly long call or spent a lot of time managing social media/taking pictures but MIUI 10 never left me stranded during the day, which is a great improvement over older versions of this OS. I am not sure MIUI 10 features adaptive battery tbh.
Scrolling Screenshots: this is actually one of the features that encouraged me to try MIUI 10 and I must say I'm satisfied with the results. For those of you who haven't tried them yet, scrolling screenshots essentially let you keep capturing portions of the screen that are not visible the moment you hit the screenshot button. They're great if you're trying to save an entire email convo or a Twitter/Forum thread.
Memory Management: Memory and performances are pretty much the same I've had on Android One. On a good day, the phone (6GB version) would have about 3.2/3.3 GB free ram with the OS + Twitter, Discord, Instagram, Mi Fit, Messenger, and Telegram locked into memory. I do miss not having to manually open the recents drawer and close whatever I'm not using to free up space but the phone still performed quite well. What I will mention is that quick apps (or whatever the MIUI "no more waiting to open apps" system is called) would crash on me every once in a while but, hey, I can live with that.
What Needs Improvements
Camera: the camera on MIUI 10 is abysmal; there is no other way to describe it. Especially when it comes to video, the overall quality of what the stock camera app can produce is miles below what the hardware is actually capable of. Video turns out to be noisy even in decent lighting conditions and look as if they were taken with a cheap phone rather than the dual camera that this device comes with. 4k recording is useless if the resulting file is peppered with artefacts and remains unusable. The situation is slightly better with photos. The AI does help with taking HD pictures outdoor but the whole thing still left me wanting for more. Of course one could try unlocking camera2api and installing a gcamera mod but that could be done on just about any ROM and wouldn't be a reason I'd go with MIUI over stock. Plus, camera2api would randomly deactivate itself every once in a while, even when activated following the so-called permanent method that's available here on xda.
Wi-Fi: I've noticed consistent drops in wifi since I switched to MIUI. The ROM would show full WIFI bars only to decide the connection wasn't strong enough and switch over to data in the middle of whatever you were doing; an approach that might end up costing you a lot if you're roaming or streaming HQ video when MIUI decides your data radio is being underutilized and deserves some love STAT! This has happened on multiple routers, in different conditions and at different distances from the router/wifi antenna, making me think that the issue might lie with the ROM rather than the WIFI I was connected to.
Bluetooth: Similarly to WIFI, bluetooth also seems to have a few problems on MIUI 10. I never experienced a full disconnection but using bluetooth headphones to listen to music as I was walking/working out often resulted in the music stuttering. There are a few settings you can toy around with in the dev settings section of the ROM and I've done that but the issue was never really solved in its entirety.
What Doesn't Work At All
Screen Recording: If you're thinking of switching to MIUI to escape Google's idiotic idea that system sound shouldn't be included with the recordings of what's going on on your screen anymore, just don't bother. While the MIUI screen recorder app does allow for system audio to be captured, the audio quality is just too low to make the actual recording useful for anything more than amateur hour. Sound stutters and is often out of sync, resulting in files that you simply can't use for professional purposes. If you really need system audio for a presentation, a gameplay video or an app review, you're better off investing 20 bucks in a decent USB to jack dongle and using an AUX cable to connect your phone to a PC with audacity. Which, by the way, is also how you would do that on any android phones nowadays.
MIUI Bloatware: I've had it with these motherf***ing apps asking me for a MIUI account, even on the de-bloated EU version of MIUI. I'm not interested in a China-based cloud service that I know nothing of and I don't want to log into MIUI just to report a bug. You've asked me already, stop doing that now!
A few things I'd like to add: The support from MIUI when it comes to MIUI 10 is meh. They do have their own dedicated forum and are pretty active here on XDA but the threads are usually flooded by sub-humans spamming requests for a port to their devices and most of the people that lurk the Xiaomi site have a pretty low command of the English language. I'm not saying I was expecting top-notch support for a free piece of software but that might piss some of the less patient among us off. Most of the bugs I've discussed in this thread were already reported months ago and were either ignored or acknowledged but never fixed.
That said, I'm now looking for a new ROM to avoid going back to OTA Android One. I would need something that's at least as performant as stock Android One and whose camera can take decent pictures/photos. I've heard that camera2api is active by default on roms like LineageOS but it seems the only LOS version I could find is an unofficial port that I'm afraid will never get constant updates. Any kind of pointer or suggestion is more than welcome here!
Buy a Mi 9.
stevedat said:
Buy a Mi 9.
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What's the point of this answer? Had I asked for a new model to buy, I would understand your suggestion for a Mi 9... but why waste the time to type out your sentence when it clearly adds nothing of value to the conversation?
Just to be clear, I'm perfectly okay with going back to stock and manually activating camera2api if no better solution is available. Hardware-wise, the A2 is a pretty capable phone; no reason to change it. I'm merely wondering whether the community is willing to share their opinion on a solid ROM to use for it.
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What's the point of this answer? Had I asked for a new model to buy, I would understand your suggestion for a Mi 9... but why waste the time to type out your sentence when it clearly adds nothing of value to the conversation?
Just to be clear, I'm perfectly okay with going back to stock and manually activating camera2api if no better solution is available. Hardware-wise, the A2 is a pretty capable phone; no reason to change it. I'm merely wondering whether the community is willing to share their opinion on a solid ROM to use for it.
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... so, you want a mi a2/6x hardware to produce an outstanding performance and top list photo quality captures, with a rock solid free-offer ROM.
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stevedat said:
... so, you want a mi a2/6x hardware to produce an outstanding performance and top list photo quality captures, with a rock solid free-offer ROM.
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The Mi A2 already produces quality photos and yields solid performances on OTA. Let me try to rephrase/dumb down that question for you:
"On MIUI, not liking it rn. Anything else I should try before I go back to stock?"
Havoc OS is pretty damn stable option, everything just works. I've never returned to stock since installing it. Had the odd dabble with other roms etc but i always find myself back to Havoc.
Of course its all personal preference really, but Havoc for my usage is the all round most stable. Give a bash and find out for yourself!
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The Mi A2 already produces quality photos and yields solid performances on OTA. Let me try to rephrase/dumb down that question for you:
"On MIUI, not liking it rn. Anything else I should try before I go back to stock?"
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I have heard it first from you. I guess it'll be last. Mi 6X or MiUi is much better in many ways than Mi A2 or stock Android one. Be it camera, battery backup or the overall experience. Only a handful of Mi 6X users are using custom Rom as they are satisfied with the stock. Relatively a large portions of Mi A2 users are using custom Rom. Why? Ask yourself.
The choice of rom always depends on your need. If u want a rock stable rom, then I suggest you to try LOS or AICP. If u want to customize as much as possible and want many features,then you should give Havoc, RR or crdroid a try.
I personally use Havoc. It's quiet stable which is impressive for the amount of features.
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I have heard it first from you. I guess it'll be last. Mi 6X or MiUi is much better in many ways than Mi A2 or stock Android one. Be it camera, battery backup or the overall experience. Only a handful of Mi 6X users are using custom Rom as they are satisfied with the stock. Relatively a large portions of Mi A2 users are using custom Rom. Why? Ask yourself.
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Let's see what my reasons for not liking MIUI 10 are: inability to update from OTA without having to lock yourself into MIUI forever, camera quality (which - you can try to deny it - but has long been an issue with MIUI), the risk of bricking your phone if you mess up updates, the simple fact I want to test different options before I settle on a final ROM for a phone I use for more than just watching YouTube videos and jerking off; is that enough for you or should I look for more?
Plus, what's wrong with you MIUI fanboys anyway? A man can't ask for an opinion without the MIUI cavalry coming to the rescue of their beloved OS?
Just loosen up a bit, it's not like I'm asking you people to modify your own devices. As someone else said in here, the best mod for you depends on the use you make of your phone. I guess I'm going to try Havoc and then decide whether I like it more than the stock experience!
if you like miui try rom from xiaomi. eu... is mine daily driver as i liked more miui from android one and ghe bugs you said just no exist
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Let's see what my reasons for not liking MIUI 10 are: inability to update from OTA without having to lock yourself into MIUI forever, camera quality (which - you can try to deny it - but has long been an issue with MIUI), the risk of bricking your phone if you mess up updates, the simple fact I want to test different options before I settle on a final ROM for a phone I use for more than just watching YouTube videos and jerking off; is that enough for you or should I look for more?
Plus, what's wrong with you MIUI fanboys anyway? A man can't ask for an opinion without the MIUI cavalry coming to the rescue of their beloved OS?
Just loosen up a bit, it's not like I'm asking you people to modify your own devices. As someone else said in here, the best mod for you depends on the use you make of your phone. I guess I'm going to try Havoc and then decide whether I like it more than the stock experience!
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Yes you can test whatever you want. But what you are saying about MiUi is pure wrong. Some uninformed guesses I think. I won't entertain you on all the matter you have described. Just make a poll of Mi A2 camera vs Mi 6X camera. Better make a poll of Mi A2 vs Mi 6X. Or you may find some information already before creating a poll. Search XDA.
I think that we better stop agruing about it. It leads to nothing that we can learn or play with. Love Miui 10 just use it; Hate Miui 10 just don't use it.
Want it better huh, go to feedback place or email to the developer team.
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