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Need some advice ASAP. S7 or Axon 7

I'm looking at both these phones right now...but the store I'm looking at only has 2 S7s left in stock
There's a $40 cad difference in cost between the two
My #1 priority on a phone is headphone audio quality. #2 is camera quality
This is why I'm struggling so much between the two phones.
The Axon 7 does come with a case/screen protector and pair of Monster npulse headphones as well, which is a nice bonus over the s7 which is just the phone
Which would you get?
Also, I've been reading alot of negativity towards the Axon 7's low light performance. Has anyone tried using manual mode in low light to see if this is still an issue? Based on the images I've seen, it appears to be software using too high of an ISO setting causing much of the problems.

I just got my axon yesterday and camera is average to disappointing. Software is kinda glitchy at times but lighter than TouchWiz though TW has improved. The 640 DPI on axon is maddening and can't really be changed without affecting some apps if that is a concern but move Nova launcher does help to some extent. Battery is average though not stellar. . You can unlock bootloader on axon but it voids warranty if you care about that.
Speakers and screen are very very good.
If you are looking to save money the axon may suffice
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markwebb said:
I just got my axon yesterday and camera is average to disappointing. Software is kinda glitchy at times but lighter than TouchWiz though TW has improved. The 640 DPI on axon is maddening and can't really be changed without affecting some apps if that is a concern but move Nova launcher does help to some extent. Battery is average though not stellar. If you are looking to save money the axon may suffice.
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How would you say the audio quality through headphones compares to the S7/Note 7?
I know the speakers on the device are vastly superior...but what about headphones?

May be slightly better but I am not one for these processed artificial dolby layers. I found the edge to be quite decent as well as Note 7 if you fiddle with equalizer and it depends on quality of headphones or earbuds. That is more subjective.
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I am selling my Axon for an S7 Edge. I will miss the awesome speakers but feel pretty much everything else is better on the Edge. Camera, screen, battery life, polished UI, etc. But man will i miss the speakers, the little speaker on the edge sounds horrible.

I hear you, no pun intended but any serious listening I use headphones or earbuds. The Edge and Note speaker is good enough for me for phone calls, etc. Would have been nice if they had stereo but everything else is improved over the axon but heck, can't beat that price for what the axon does.
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viper98 said:
My #1 priority on a phone is headphone audio quality. #2 is camera quality
This is why I'm struggling so much between the two phones.
The Axon 7 does come with a case/screen protector and pair of Monster npulse headphones as well, which is a nice bonus over the s7 which is just the phone
Which would you get?
Also, I've been reading alot of negativity towards the Axon 7's low light performance. Has anyone tried using manual mode in low light to see if this is still an issue? Based on the images I've seen, it appears to be software using too high of an ISO setting causing much of the problems.
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1.- Speakers the Axon 7 is a beast and with headphones is 2xbeast :silly:, really love the sound from this device.
2.- Camera fails in Low Light ,not like is terrible to no good, but is the only downside I see so far compare to others. But is mostly software and as far as I know ZTE is working for fix, other than that takes good picture
Note : using Manual mode can make things a lot better, most of the reviews uses Auto Mode so FYI.
3.- the skin in the Axon 7 is close to stock + some OEM tweaks here and there, I use Nova prime for my needs and I really have no complains.
4.- having captive nag. Buttons is a big plus,
5.- The design and feels is super b, like it better than G5 or S7 Edge.
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The only area s7 family wins is in waterproof other than that Axon 7 is a pretty nice device , but is just my opinion.

DrakenFX said:
1.- Speakers the Axon 7 is a beast and with headphones is 2xbeast :silly:, really love the sound from this device.
2.- Camera fails in Low Light ,not like is terrible to no good, but is the only downside I see so far compare to others. But is mostly software and as far as I know ZTE is working for fix, other than that takes good picture
Note : using Manual mode can make things a lot better, most of the reviews uses Auto Mode so FYI.
3.- the skin in the Axon 7 is close to stock + some OEM tweaks here and there, I use Nova prime for my needs and I really have no complains.
4.- having captive nag. Buttons is a big plus,
5.- The design and feels is super b, like it better than G5 or S7 Edge.
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The only area s7 family wins is in waterproof other than that Axon 7 is a pretty nice device , but is just my opinion.
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How would you say it compares to the camera on the G4?

viper98 said:
How would you say it compares to the camera on the G4?
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Good question haven't actually compare my G4 to my A7...but what I can tell you using Auto-Mode in both devices, the A7 is better with good lighting conditions (AutoMode) and the G4 is slightly better in Low Light LG have betterxmore polish camera software (AutoMode) , things change a bit more when use Manual more.
Just considering lg is a actual Camera manufacture and have way more experience with camera software.

A lot A7 issues are software related and theoretical could be fixed by software patch. That being said ...if you don't care about rooting I would go with galaxy. Touchwiz has gotten a lot better. Only sacrifice is speakers are better on A7 if you care about that. GS7 has terrible speaker.
Either one is a good choice but headphones will sound close same (very margin better on A7) and camera Iis way better on gs7. Battery life maybe better on g7 till custom ROMs are built for a7.
G7 is better for what you want IMO

And if you are a VZW subscriber, I really doubt the axon will get whitelisted for it to work correctly and fully.
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markwebb said:
And if you are a VZW subscriber, I really doubt the axon will get whitelisted for it to work correctly and fully.
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I'm with Rogers in Canada.
Here's a total breakdown of what I'm looking at
Open Box Sprint S7s are going for $621.49 after tax. Adding in $30 for a case and screen protector I'd be looking $650 all in
The Axon 7 comes to a total of $598.97 all in and includes a pair of Monster NPulse headphones with the order.(don't care about the headphones...but I could sell them for ~$100 or just gift them)

viper98 said:
I'm with Rogers in Canada.
Here's a total breakdown of what I'm looking at
Open Box Sprint S7s are going for $621.49 after tax. Adding in $30 for a case and screen protector I'd be looking $650 all in
The Axon 7 comes to a total of $598.97 all in and includes a pair of Monster NPulse headphones with the order.(don't care about the headphones...but I could sell them for ~$100 or just gift them)
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At those price points, S7 (edge???) is really a much better option. Sound can be EQd and Camera runs laps around this one, i am not as optimistic in ZTE getting it much more better. Manual mode is nice but it takes dialing in. If we ever get full API2 then a proper camera app maybe can do better. The waterproofing is also nice thing to have, it expands usage of the phone. For $50 diff it's a no brainier and it even has root-ability for now i think, so you can run customize it to extent with xposed. The only drawback would be if you are not into all that glass.

if they dont fix this camera im out. better take best camera from market than stereo speakers.

Had s7e exynos and hated it. Couldn't stand glass body soap shape, easily dirty, full of fingerprints (i do like metal unibody phones). Also TW is nasty, audio thru headphones really dissapointing (there is also a thread in s7e section). Only camera was impressive, i mean incredible fast auto focus. Besides photos look amazing at phone, but when i watched them on tv or PC they were over sharpened, too agressive post produced. I felt relief selling this overpriced shiny piece of crap.
Don't forget screen gonna piss you off cause of accidental touches of this nonsense edges.
Wysłane z mojego HTC_M10h

Thanks for the feedback everyone! I found someone selling an S7 locally today for too good of a deal to pass up, so it made my decision easy

S7 is a better phone, no question about it. I have s7 active for work.
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Would you choose Mi Note 2 over Mi6?

Hi guys,
I am going to sell my G6 soon as I don't really like it and I thought about getting Mi Note 2 or Mi6. Would you buy your Mi Note 2 again or you would rather go with Mi6? Mi Note 2 has audio jack, OLED and curved screen, while Mi6 has IPS (so it won't burn-in), better camera I guess (?) and powerful SoC. What are your opinions?
Regards

Well , i'm gonna say my opinion. You can agree/disagree with it tho XD
I would buy Mi Note 2 again because:
1.Good price
2.I really enjoy a 5.5 inch-6 inch screen , so this 5.7 inch one is perfect. It has vivid colors as it is an OLED , but it's true , it's not that sharp. If you really need sharpness and display is a big thing for you , maybe you might consider Mi 6.
3.The design is very nice and a lot of people said that it looks very good when they saw it.
4.The audio of Mi Note 2 in headphones is the best i've ever heard coming from a smartphone. This applies to the loudspeaker also. It's really loud with punchy bass and clarity.
5.Camera , indeed , may not be as great as mi 6 , but it does the job for me. Untill now, i managed to get good shots in every condition , without complaining about the results.
6.The SoC upgrade, for me, has no value as sd821 already runs every game very well. Also, it runs good a more demanding game that just apeared , PUBG for mobile .
Those were my thoughts. Maybe i'm not that pretentious when it comes to have a smartphone. I hope you make the right choice and your new phone will please you

alexmanu1 said:
Well , i'm gonna say my opinion. You can agree/disagree with it tho XD
I would buy Mi Note 2 again because:
1.Good price
2.I really enjoy a 5.5 inch-6 inch screen , so this 5.7 inch one is perfect. It has vivid colors as it is an OLED , but it's true , it's not that sharp. If you really need sharpness and display is a big thing for you , maybe you might consider Mi 6.
3.The design is very nice and a lot of people said that it looks very good when they saw it.
4.The audio of Mi Note 2 in headphones is the best i've ever heard coming from a smartphone. This applies to the loudspeaker also. It's really loud with punchy bass and clarity.
5.Camera , indeed , may not be as great as mi 6 , but it does the job for me. Untill now, i managed to get good shots in every condition , without complaining about the results.
6.The SoC upgrade, for me, has no value as sd821 already runs every game very well. Also, it runs good a more demanding game that just apeared , PUBG for mobile .
Those were my thoughts. Maybe i'm not that pretentious when it comes to have a smartphone. I hope you make the right choice and your new phone will please you
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I'd love to see Google Cam with HDR+ on Mi Note 2 as well as it's portrait mode However I think that Mi6 has more ROMs to choose from and better dev support

marcoly said:
I'd love to see Google Cam with HDR+ on Mi Note 2 as well as it's portrait mode However I think that Mi6 has more ROMs to choose from and better dev support
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Yeah , it depends on what you are searching for
I would say that you should buy the one you have a feeling it will be the best for you. Don't get distracted on reviews .

xiaomi a2 vs lg g6

Hello I am planning to get a phone today around 200$ both mi a2 and lg G6 is under 200$ in my country.. which one should I get ?? I will use it mostly to watch YouTube, browsing and some lite GPS usage ..

I believe G6's camera is far superior. Plus I've come to much appreciate the wide angle camera on the same device. If camera matters to you go for G6. I also think sooner or later, LG will provide update to Android P, too

well, considering Mi A2 didnt have headphone jack, the camera is worse than G6, have less features, have Android One (wich personaly i didnt like, is boring) i think if you find G6 at same price or less, then you should go for G6 without thinkin...G6 at 200 is a damn of a deal. specialy with SD821, QHD display, great cameras, manual camera etc etc...i dont need to say anymore, i own it and is amazing you will like it better than Mi A2 for sure, i already play with A2 and is really a boring and the screen to body ratio is bigger in G6, A2 have too much bezels.

Worse Camera? One has to wonder what criteria one is using...
The Mi A2 is getting fantastic reviews for it's advances in camera ability. It has pixel binning and a wide aperture on *both* rear lenses, which make for more light getting through to the sensor, which makes for better pictures in low light. It has portrait mode on both the rear and front cameras, but it's main feature is ability in low light.
I have a G6, like it. But have a Mi A2 arriving soon. The G6, unless you get one of the few versions that are unlockable, will not get updates in a timely manner or fairly soon, never.
The A2 on the other hand is just released, 2 yrs of promised OS updates, and 3 yrs of security updates (my G6 is on May security - the August security is already available for the A2).
The A2 is project treble enabled and unlockable (no questions asked, no code needed). And while some find Android One "boring", others of us find it fantastic; I'm a minimalist, I want to get the most out of the hardware as possible; that means running as little bloatware as I can.
Don't get me wrong, I like the G6. And will decide after some time which one I sell. But the Mi A2 is being hailed as a great phone for the price range.
Much depends on what your needs are of course. I prefer the aluminum unibody phones, with the 2.5D glass, they are more 'rounded' and easier to hold. And cameras with good low light are a very big plus... Where are most of the pics you take with your phone? Indoors with friends, maybe at night, that type of a thing. I don't walk around during daylight looking to take pictures with my phone, for that I have a sony mirroless camera with a lot of interchangeable lenses.

The G6 is a higher tier phone. Much smaller yet with bigger screen, better display, better camera, faster, always on display. And if we are talking about the dual sim version, then there's also the quad DAC, for someone who wants to listen to music from a mobile device in the best possible quality.
Mi A1 is a great phone, I like it, but I don't think that it's a match for the G6. I like the Android One thing, but it was made with cost being one of the first priorities, G6 wasn't that much.

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The G6 is a higher tier phone. Much smaller yet with bigger screen, better display, better camera, faster, always on display. And if we are talking about the dual sim version, then there's also the quad DAC, for someone who wants to listen to music from a mobile device in the best possible quality.
Mi A1 is a great phone, I like it, but I don't think that it's a match for the G6. I like the Android One thing, but it was made with cost being one of the first priorities, G6 wasn't that much.
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we are talking about Mi A2 here, not A1.

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we are talking about Mi A2 here, not A1.
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My mistake, but things are even worse for the A2. Much bigger, no card slot, no FM radio (for someone who needs it),
A2 is the phone to get if the only priority is the pure Android and the updates.

Melissakis said:
My mistake, but things are even worse for the A2. Much bigger, no card slot, no FM radio (for someone who needs it),
A2 is the phone to get if the only priority is the pure Android and the updates.
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and the very good in low light cameras.
and the 2.5D glass
and the aluminum unibody rounded edges
and the unlockable bootloader
and project treble enabled

$200 is a bargain for the LG.
Go for it, although you have to be aware that you are buying a model that is almost a year and a half old and therefore towards the end of support by LG
This doesn't take away from the enjoyment that you get from the phone, but you have to adjust your expectations.
As you can see from these forums there are many people "kvetching" (whining) about the delay or lack of updates.
For most people this isn't important but you have to decide for yourself.

jshames said:
$200 is a bargain for the LG.
Go for it, although you have to be aware that you are buying a model that is almost a year and a half old and therefore towards the end of support by LG
This doesn't take away from the enjoyment that you get from the phone, but you have to adjust your expectations.
As you can see from these forums there are many people "kvetching" (whining) about the delay or lack of updates.
For most people this isn't important but you have to decide for yourself.
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Sure, this doesnt mean if the support ends for G6 the phone will be trash, it doesnt mean that...i dont why people bother so much for updates since you always waste time searching for it and then dont enjoy the true value of the phone, simple because you are obcessed with updates...
For the price you pay for G6 is a true value phone, you know what a high end looks like, even tho is from last year but high end will be high end forever because of the looks of it, and a midrange with stock will always be mid range with stock android.
And...i know for almost sure, G6 will have Android Pie next year, of course A2 will have it sooner or already have it (IDK) but for G6 is a must welcome update, SD821 with Pie will last at least for more one year or so, like you can go out with your phone until ends of 2019 or more.
Thats what im gonna to do with my G6, wait for Pie and use it for more 1 or 2 years...as for Mi A2 from today until 2 years will keep receiving updates but i dont see your Mi A2 last more than 2 years, Xiaomi always make new models and maybe Mi A2 will be out of updates sooner than people will expect.
I am not convincing anyone to buy this or that phone, they have the pros and cons like every phone, but the weight here is more to the G6 than to Mi A2.
G6 Pros vs Mi A2:
- Better camera
- Wide Angle camera
- Better video camera
- Headphone jack
- Look like a flagship
- Better screen to body ratio
- Better outdoor visibility
- Better SoC
- A little more battery
- IP68 Water and Dust resistant
Mi A2 Pros vs G6:
- IR Blaster
- Stock Android
- Thinner than G6
- Better loudspeaker quality
... i have G6, but i already put my hands on A2, bezels is too much and the top bezel makes the phone ugly, too light weight like you holding a paper not a phone, screen is nothing special, stock android (at least for me) didnt have taste, is like a salted water biccuit. But people chose what they gonna want, i only give my feedback upon my experience in both.

I too am very happy with my G6.
The only open question at this point is reliability, given the bootloop problem that many LG manufactured phones have had.
Both my sons had Nexus 5x's and both died from bootloops within 2 years.
Hopefully the G6 won't suffer the same fate.

jshames said:
I too am very happy with my G6.
The only open question at this point is reliability, given the bootloop problem that many LG manufactured phones have had.
Both my sons had Nexus 5x's and both died from bootloops within 2 years.
Hopefully the G6 won't suffer the same fate.
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LG after beign sued because bootloops i think they already fix it since G5/V20 all phones since those is no more bootloop aware and if they do is people fault of flashing wrong things and do what they dont know what they doing, and even that way the bootloop by accident is easy fixed with Uppercut or LG UP.
LG fame of bootloops keep going i know but LG phones dont bootloop anymore i can guarantee you.

Yes, that's what I read too, but it had definitely hurt LG's reputation and their competition with Samsung (even with the exploding Galaxy s7 LOL)
Hopefully I will retire it when the Lg G7 becomes a bargain!
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LG after beign sued because bootloops i think they already fix it since G5/V20 all phones since those is no more bootloop aware and if they do is people fault of flashing wrong things and do what they dont know what they doing, and even that way the bootloop by accident is easy fixed with Uppercut or LG UP.
LG fame of bootloops keep going i know but LG phones dont bootloop anymore i can guarantee you.
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I just bought A2 and sold the G6 after 1,5 year. If you are not a fashion phone user choose the A2 and be advanced user

I've had both phones, both are good, but you have to ask; What's most important for you? I like the G6 better because of the size. Ideally I'd have a Pixel 3, but not until the price comes down for me. I like the wide angle lens' on the G6 also. There are so many factors re phones, unlockable, roms, development, updates, etc etc.
what matters to you? that's the tough question.

likhon02 said:
Hello I am planning to get a phone today around 200$ both mi a2 and lg G6 is under 200$ in my country.. which one should I get ?? I will use it mostly to watch YouTube, browsing and some lite GPS usage ..
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I also have both phones and prefer the A2
The LG does have great cameras but the A2 is not far behind. The A2 has very good cameras. Especially the front facing camera which is much better then the G6.
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I also have both phones and prefer the A2
The LG does have great cameras but the A2 is not far behind. The A2 has very good cameras. Especially the front facing camera which is much better then the G6.

do you buy this phone today?

I need change my nubia z11 mini s, the volume of calls is unusable is so low, never was good at all. I have found an offer about 200 euros is like new on amazon, i was looking to get redmi note 7pro, xiaomi 8 or meizu 16 I love meizu design and camera looks pretty nice but lacks of support and scene. Maybe in a future I will buy nokia 9 pureview.
I am not sure about to do, I had a desire and keeping good memories. But it just have one camera, could i have bouquet efect pictures? The frames really doesn't like me but and size. I am looking as well a good mic for calls, before the z11 I had a sony z3c and as well fails on mic calls was horrible in the end of phone live.
The phone is still worth it? Seems that doesn't have too may scene and rooms. In Spain this brand is dead literally really few people have it.
Do still buy it nowdays?
Thank you
Edit: I can buy brand new mi8 about 300 euros, mi mix 2s 290 euros or htc u11 like new on amazon about 200 euros. Which do you prefer?

If you don't mind missing regular updates, buy u11.

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If you don't mind missing regular updates, buy u11.
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Thank you to replay, I'm checkings phones, I wonder if buy a xiaomi mi mis 2s for 290 euros or u11 for 200 euros... Really if the rom works ok Í don't mind about updates.

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If you don't mind missing regular updates, buy u11.
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I agree.
U11 has really a great camera, that can not be compared with other mobiles mentioned.
Also system is really fluid and user experience is very polished.
Last year from U11 I went for Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S: i kept it about a month then got a U12+

pibcs81 said:
I need change my nubia z11 mini s, the volume of calls is unusable is so low, never was good at all. I have found an offer about 200 euros is like new on amazon, i was looking to get redmi note 7pro, xiaomi 8 or meizu 16 I love meizu design and camera looks pretty nice but lacks of support and scene. Maybe in a future I will buy nokia 9 pureview.
I am not sure about to do, I had a desire and keeping good memories. But it just have one camera, could i have bouquet efect pictures? The frames really doesn't like me but and size. I am looking as well a good mic for calls, before the z11 I had a sony z3c and as well fails on mic calls was horrible in the end of phone live.
The phone is still worth it? Seems that doesn't have too may scene and rooms. In Spain this brand is dead literally really few people have it.
Do still buy it nowdays?
Thank you
Edit: I can buy brand new mi8 about 300 euros, mi mix 2s 290 euros or htc u11 like new on amazon about 200 euros. Which do you prefer?
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buy htc u11 and you will have no regrets!
just yesterday I sold an oneplus 6 to go back to the htc u11: it's a fabulous phone, nice touch & feel, fantastic camera, nice display, fantastic size, superlative videos with super 3D audio, fingerprint reader very fast to unlock it.
Even today I think the htc u11 is a fantastic phone that can compete with all the other top on the market, even in 2018-2019.
It has only one defect: the updates.
If it's not a problem for you, you can not spend your money better.
And then you also have Amazon's guarantee!
On what Amazon did you find it for 200 euros?
Forgive my English: I use Google translator.

I got HTC U11 for about 250 USD around a month back. It is a great phone. I bought it keeping it as a backup phone and using Note 8 as a main phone but it happened vice versa.

Absolutely recommend even in 2 years from now you won't regret it !

pibcs81 said:
Thank you to replay, I'm checkings phones, I wonder if buy a xiaomi mi mis 2s for 290 euros or u11 for 200 euros... Really if the rom works ok Í don't mind about updates.
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Suggest to go for U11, the main problem is hard to get new software and probably no official Pie to taste. I've got U11 and RedMi 5 Plus and my friend just got a Mi 8 Lite yesterday.
The camera is superb on U11 and Mi 8 Lite(the same camera with Mi8 without OIS and aperture down to f1.9 from f1.8) is far away from U11. I've also got a Sony Z5 Compact and the photo/video quality on Mi 8 Lite is only about the same to Z5c in reality with faster dual pixel focus, never fully believe reviews on net, some are paid. I guess the Mi 8 does better but won't come close to U11 in real life usage.
If you are looking for RedMi note 7 pro, the good is 4000mah battery with sd675 u will receive least 50% more battery life over U11 with downgraded cpu and camera.
Nokia 9 is good only for taking photo with a crazy 12.4 stops dynamic range but photo lacking of details and the video quality comes out from Nokia 9 is bad too.
EDIT: https://twitter.com/htc/status/1105203212477292547
HTC said U11 Pie is still working on so I think we will receive latest security patches later.

U11 all the way. Its way underappreciated phone. Excellent screen, speakers. Superb camera with/without gcam port. Good battery life. Has custom ROM development as well with unlockable bootloader. Its the last issue-free phone from HTC.
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Still a good phone
pibcs81 said:
I need change my nubia z11 mini s, the volume of calls is unusable is so low, never was good at all. I have found an offer about 200 euros is like new on amazon, i was looking to get redmi note 7pro, xiaomi 8 or meizu 16 I love meizu design and camera looks pretty nice but lacks of support and scene. Maybe in a future I will buy nokia 9 pureview.
The phone is still worth it? Seems that doesn't have too may scene and rooms. In Spain this brand is dead literally really few people have it. Do still buy it nowdays?
Hi,
I bought one last week, loving it so far. I came from a Samsung S7 and there are almost identical apart from nice large screen on U11 and better front camera.
It has a nice UI, ROMS on here are good. Battery life good.
I got one on EBay for 185 Euros in perfect condition.
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I would recommend it, if you can purchase it at a decent price, and if you are comfortable installing LineageOS. The combination of the U11 hardware, the LineageOS software, and the Google Camera app make this phone still, to this day, one of the smoothest phones that can take great pictures.
I have owned it for 2 years and plan on holding onto it for another year, or until there is significant improvement in the Google Pixel line.

In my case the camera especially when you use stock camera app. isn't good. Too much noise, but if you use Google camera mod it changes everything. Battery backup is decent, even when my device is 2 years old now.

Is Redmi K20/Mi 9T a good upgrade from Mi A1?

Hi, I'm planning to upgrade Redmi K20 after using A1 for almost 2 years. Is it a good choice considering my requirements of a great build quality with glass back, good camera (including a wide angle camera) and a Amoled screen. Internal specs doesn't really matter that much till it can drive my daily apps smoothly.

Why not.
If i would be buying, i would check if any recognised ROM developer getting that phone. If there isn't a good developer base in XDA, you have to entirely rely on Xiaomi; for updates, for ****ty camera updates etc.

Mi A3 is available, good specs for around 200 bugs

I was waiting for A3, but that subpar display is a big show stopper for me (HD + pentile matrix [emoji2961]). I will wait a bit and if there are no news about proper Android One successor (A3 "pro"), I am going to risk MIUI on 9T. Maybe I'll get used to it with root and some modifications..who knows [emoji846]

Has everyone forgot about treble support by default on newer devices?
Devs will be trying to make GSIs, which will result in much better ROM availablity. And newer kernel isn't a big deal like it was few years back.
So go buy any phone you want.

Hriddhi said:
Hi, I'm planning to upgrade Redmi K20 after using A1 for almost 2 years. Is it a good choice considering my requirements of a great build quality with glass back, good camera (including a wide angle camera) and a Amoled screen. Internal specs doesn't really matter that much till it can drive my daily apps smoothly.
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I just purchased my Mi 9T 2 days ago. The difference between Stock and MIUI is night and day. I miss being able to pull down the notification shade using the fingerprint scanner.
And although the navigation buttons on A1 take up screen real estate, the gesture navigation on the 9T just feels clunky. I hate the swipe left/right on screen to go back.
It was also a headache to remove the bloat apps, as I use mostly Google apps. And I haven't had any experience of Xiaomi Ads, but removing those were the first thing that I did.
In all fairness tho, for the price, it was worth the upgrade because of the camera, Snapdragon 730 and the gorgeous Amoled Screen. I'll probably swap MIUI w/ Lineage OS soon.