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does the gpu of hd2 is powerful enough to handle directx 9 announced as requirement for wp7
I was wondering the same thing the other day and couldn't find any official spec sheets. I asked over in one of the threads in the WP7s forums and I got the idea that OpenGL ES 2.0 was supported, which was 'basically the same.'
does any one know any useful info
http://brew.qualcomm.com/brew_bnry/pdf/brew_2007/Tech-303_Ligon.pdf
See page 15 for the best tech specs I've seen on the snapdragon / z430 / ATI LT. Still very light on details but claims direct3d sm3 support.
For that specific chipset (MSM7850) they claim DX9 support on page 31.
Their old chip (7500) supports DX7.
Since that was 2007, we can presume they've maintained similar compatibility in their newer (8250) chipset, yes?
Missed that bit, now all we need is a driver </sarcasm> for the humour impaired.
[sarcasm]obviously MS is aiming really high this time..
DX9 compatible portable devices, that use huge amounts of power so they can do what?
render a load of bloody text!
whoopppeee !
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so tje final answer is that hd2 gpu is enough for directx 9 or what?
The only correct answer to anything around here is, that noone knows nothing at all!
We can't run DX9 on WMPS7 so what ever?!
Before everyone freaks out, about fckn WMPS7, why not wait until you really see something?
Actually all the previews by microsoft were pretty ****ty! The phones worked pretty slow, I dont like that "hub" thing, and they are limited to the ground!
Thats what I would call "YaI" -> Yet another Iphone...
I'm loving WM6 and the only OS I'll be switching to, if WM6 dies (what i dont think, cuz there are more programmers who like WM6) will be android, but not another limited bull**** os
VisualD said:
http://brew.qualcomm.com/brew_bnry/pdf/brew_2007/Tech-303_Ligon.pdf
See page 15 for the best tech specs I've seen on the snapdragon / z430 / ATI LT. Still very light on details but claims direct3d sm3 support.
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after reading i think it supports it
Being released by NVIDIA this afternoon is the Tegra 12 Alpha 1 Linux release. This is a Linux software release intended for developers using NVIDIA's Tegra 2 platform.
The NVIDIA Tegra Linux 12 Alpha 1 release is based on the Linux 2.6.38 kernel and is derived from Ubuntu. Graphics standards supported by this Tegra-ified Ubuntu release include OpenGL ES 1.1/2.0, EGL 1.3, OpenMAX IL 1.1, and RandR 1.3.
For those interested in Linux for Tegra 12 Alpha 1, the relevant links are available from this forum thread.
Found by edgan
O.... so this replaced webtop? (or might/will?)
Edit: We don't have the Tegra 250 chip, I think we have have the Tegra 200 chip... the driver package is for 250.
Mgamerz said:
O.... so this replaced webtop? (or might/will?)
Edit: We don't have the Tegra 250 chip, I think we have have the Tegra 200 chip... the driver package is for 250.
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The changelog says it supports the 200 series.
Nice but this belongs in the General forum.
If you didn't create it, it doesn't belong in development. It's a nice sticky that is on other devices' development forum and i think it applies here as well.
franciscojavierleon said:
Nice but this belongs in the General forum.
If you didn't create it, it doesn't belong in development. It's a nice sticky that is on other devices' development forum and i think it applies here as well.
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You are probably right, I got overly excited and posted it here, please move to it the appropriate forum.
Cheers
I also think this belongs in general but here is a actual link to the official site @ nvidia
http://developer.nvidia.com/content/linux-tegra-release-12-alpha-1-released
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The changelog says it supports the 200 series.
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But it looks like the Alpha Release only supports Tegra 250 "Harmony".
Taking directly from the Release Notes,
Code:
Note: This alpha release of Tegra Linux Driver Package (L4T.ER1 ) is a
release for Tegra 250 “Harmony” only. The information in these release
notes is preliminary
According to pdadb.net Atrix has Tegra 2 250 chip, also wikipedia says it has Tegra 250 AP20H (H stands for Harmony?)
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According to pdadb.net Atrix has Tegra 2 250 chip, also wikipedia says it has Tegra 250 AP20H (H stands for Harmony?)
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That is correct. There is no Tegra 200.
The Tegra 250 AP20H is the chip used in phones, Tegra 250 T20 is used in tablets. As far as I can tell, the biggest difference between the two SoCs is that the Geforce ULP GPU is clocked higher on the tablets (333mhz vs 300).
So this could be huge for WebTop?
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pederb said:
So this could be huge for WebTop?
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Possibly... but to be honest, I'm not willing to give up Flash to go up to 11.04, let alone things like the Android-In-Window functionality. Updated versions of those are a lot harder to get. It might be able to get an updated Flash if we could find a Linux-based device out there that we could hack, but the others...? Good luck.
I'll be trying an upgrade to Ubuntu 10.04 at some later point in time, but I can't make any promises that it will succeed.
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Possibly... but to be honest, I'm not willing to give up Flash to go up to 11.04, let alone things like the Android-In-Window functionality. Updated versions of those are a lot harder to get. It might be able to get an updated Flash if we could find a Linux-based device out there that we could hack, but the others...? Good luck.
I'll be trying an upgrade to Ubuntu 10.04 at some later point in time, but I can't make any promises that it will succeed.
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So flash is not available in 11.04?
pederb said:
So flash is not available in 11.04?
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NVIDIA might provide one to some of its OEM/ODM customers, but I don't think they publicly distribute Flash for public consumption. I expect it'll be the same in this case - if we could somehow get our hands on a leak of Flash for Ubuntu 10.10 or 11.04, we might be able to get something working, but otherwise, we're pretty much out of luck.
Depending on what kind of performance gains there are, this could be awesome. Although you wouldn't directly replace it, you'd be better off making a custom "distro" for the atrix using bits and pieces from webtop and combining them with the nvidia build.
Does anyone know exactly how the webtop environment boots? Important thing being the kernel. If it runs similar to a chroot you'd need a custom kernel as well.
Look up tegra on wikipedia we have 200 it says.
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http://crap.muromec.org.ua/ac100/debian/2011-04-18/
http://markit.dyndns.org/ac100/
http://crap.muromec.org.ua/ac100/
http://paulfedora.wordpress.com/
http://ac100.163.ru/firmware/ubuntu/rootfs_11_04.tar.gz
theirs no massive difference between 200 and 250 as far as i know
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http://crap.muromec.org.ua/ac100/debian/2011-04-18/
http://markit.dyndns.org/ac100/
http://crap.muromec.org.ua/ac100/
http://paulfedora.wordpress.com/
http://ac100.163.ru/firmware/ubuntu/rootfs_11_04.tar.gz
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What is all this?
Debian arm. Nvidia is optimizing for tegra (gpu driver included)... not just arm
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DJ_Steve said:
theirs no massive difference between 200 and 250 as far as i know
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There's no such thing as a Tegra 200 chip! Whenever it is referred to that way it is the because it's part of the 200 SERIES. Each being near identical with different clock speeds and possible some specific optimisations for the 3D models.
The Atrix has a Tegra 250 AP20H.
Australian-based firm, Intermatrix, have announced the first Ubuntu Tablet hardware, due to start shipping in October 2013 (http://www.ubuntutablet.com.au).
A 7-inch tablet has only been announced at the moment; plans to produce a 10-inch tablet are under way.
Specs are similar to what Canonical are currently developing/targeting their 7-inch model on: 1.5GHz Quad-Core Cortex A9, 1GB RAM.
That was rather quick!.. I wanna see System76 do a tablet tho.
given your username intermatrixau, I am assuming you work for said company.
So, firstly, great job on being first - if I didn't already have a Nexus 7 i'd preorder, but it's not really a big enough change in specs for me to consider change at this point - I would get major wife agro and hammered by the minister for finance, who happens to be the same person.
So, question I have is - why not go for 2gb ram or more? as it is a full OS when docked, I wouldn't want it sluggish in any way opening up desktop applications. Although that said, I have not actually used Ubuntu Touch on my N7 yet so not sure if more will make much difference
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given your username intermatrixau, I am assuming you work for said company.
So, firstly, great job on being first - if I didn't already have a Nexus 7 i'd preorder, but it's not really a big enough change in specs for me to consider change at this point - I would get major wife agro and hammered by the minister for finance, who happens to be the same person.
So, question I have is - why not go for 2gb ram or more? as it is a full OS when docked, I wouldn't want it sluggish in any way opening up desktop applications. Although that said, I have not actually used Ubuntu Touch on my N7 yet so not sure if more will make much difference
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Yeah, 2GB would be nice.
We'd actually originally intended to release the 7-inch tablet with 2GB RAM, but unfortunately, our hardware guys reckon the chipset won't take a single 2GB chip (and there's no room for a second one!). As far as we can tell, at the moment, there's no 7-inch tablets on the market with 2GB RAM (yet).
RE: the "full OS when docked"; according to Canonical, they're targetting desktop convergence for 10-inch tablets and above.
Awesome
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RE: the "full OS when docked"; according to Canonical, they're targetting desktop convergence for 10-inch tablets and above.
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I didn't know that, I don't like that and I don't get WHY?! If a 7'' tablet's specs are enough to run a full desktop OS when docked, why won't they allow it? :/ Does anyone know WHY?
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is it will work with ARM based processor? my idea is may not
adeelhassan said:
is it will work with ARM based processor? my idea is may not
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*Sigh*... Yes, yes it will....
Sounds wicked! :laugh:
is it will work with ARM based processor? my idea is may not
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Ubuntu has been ported to arm for several years now.
http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/ho...us/en/pc_cons/higher_asp/slatebook_x2/buynow8
Processor
NVIDIA® Tegra® 4 T40S with Intel HD Graphics (1.8 GHz, 1 MB L2 cache)
Graphics
Intel HD Graphics 4000
HOLY SHEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIII****!
I just found out that the HP Slatebook x2 comes with an Intel HD 4000, not the Tegra 4 GPU!
THIS MAKES THE SLATEBOOK THE MOST POWERFUL GAMING ANDROID TABLET EVER MADE!
http://anandtech.com/show/7190/nvidia-shield-review-tegra-4-crossroads-pc-mobile-gaming/5
The HD 4000 is roughly 1.5x faster than the Tegra 4 GPU. The HD 4000 is also roughly 3.0x faster than the Adreno 320 in the N7v2!
I'm returning my N7v2 and buying the Slatebook ASAP... will let anyone who's interested know more!
But its too expensive!
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It certainly seems like a nice device but its more than double the price...
the price is not for me even though i spent 300 on the nvidia shield and 270 on the n7 i think its ok...i would not get it though after seeing how bad hp were with there own product that they killed in less than 3 months now they move to android. simple fact is i dont trust them period no matter how good the device may look.
Psh! It's not too expensive! My 32 GB N10 was $30 more. So what if it's twice the price of the N7? It's also more than twice the value, so you're getting what you pay for.
If everybody used the argument "it's too expensive" then we'd all be buying $60 Chinese Android tablets off Amazon.
I'm sure the Slate is great, but main reason I bought the N7 was the price.
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Double the price, and it is a 10 inch. They aren't even in the same catagory.
You guys are completely missing the point.
HD 4000 in an Android tablet! THIS IS REVOLUTIONARY!
Geodude074 said:
You guys are completely missing the point.
HD 4000 in an Android tablet! THIS IS REVOLUTIONARY!
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For what? I don't play games on my N7.
Geodude074 said:
You guys are completely missing the point.
HD 4000 in an Android tablet! THIS IS REVOLUTIONARY!
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Yeah it might be... but where on HP's spec sheet does it say Intel HD Graphics?
Key specifications
• Android 4.2
• Nvidia T40S, 4-Plus-1™ Quad(2a)
• 10.1-inch diagonal WUXGA LED-backlit touchscreen display (1920x1200)
• On-board 2GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAM
• 16GB solid-state drive(6)
• Full-size island-style keyboard
• 1x1 802.11b/g/n WLAN(8) and Bluetooth®(8f)
Product highlights
• Android™ OS:Use all your familiar AndroidTM apps and stay connected to
your must-have digital content.(12q)
• ARM processor: Enjoy a faster and more immersive mobile computing experience and bring your games to
life, thanks to the latest NVIDIA ARM processor
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The main points out of the page... lists nothing Intel wise. My guess it was an oops on the main page.
And if it was in there... why would it run on a Nvidia chipset, it wouldn't it would be on an intel CPU.
I'm really confuse with the Intell Hd4000. No way HP was able to use an intel GPU chip with Nvidia's CPU/GPU combo, or did they? haha would be awesome though. I'm sure this is a type or error.
Hd 4000 confirmed
Macmee said:
For what? I don't play games on my N7.
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You just answered your own question there. You may not play games, but EVERY ANDROID GAMER IN THE WORLD WILL BE FREAKING BLOWN AWAY BY THIS!
Deathman20 said:
Yeah it might be... but where on HP's spec sheet does it say Intel HD Graphics?
The main points out of the page... lists nothing Intel wise. My guess it was an oops on the main page.
And if it was in there... why would it run on a Nvidia chipset, it wouldn't it would be on an intel CPU.
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I just spoke with an HP Customer Representative:
11:27:11 AM : Me: Initial Question/Comment: HP Slatebook x2 with HD 4000?
11:27:11 AM : Welcome! Our HP Home & Home Office Sales Chat Team serves the US only.
11:27:16 AM : We do not provide product support. We will refer you to HP Technical Support, the HP Parts Store or to non-US sales help.
11:27:16 AM : If you still need US sales or ordering assistance, please stay in queue. Our Sales Chat Representative will be with you shortly.
11:27:31 AM : Michka D. has joined this session!
11:27:31 AM : Connected with Michka D.. Your Reference Number for this chat is 2057637.
11:27:51 AM : Michka D.: Thank you for contacting HP Home & Home Office Sales Chat and welcome to our Back-to-school Sale. My name is Michka.
11:28:01 AM : Michka D.: Can you please rephrase your question and provide greater detail so that I can better assist you?
11:28:24 AM : Me: Yes. On your website, the HP Slatebook x2 is listed in the Specs as having an Intel HD 4000 for a GPU.
11:28:32 AM : Me: But on your HP Data Sheet, it doesn't list the HD 4000 anywhere.
11:28:38 AM : Me: Does it come with the HD 4000 or not?
11:29:26 AM : Michka D.: I'm sorry for the confusion, Me.
11:29:31 AM : Michka D.: Let me check it for you.
11:29:41 AM : Michka D.: I need to check my resources first in order to answer your question. May I place you on hold for 1-2 minutes while I check my resources?
11:29:45 AM : Me: Yes.
11:30:01 AM : Michka D.: Thank you.
11:33:21 AM : Michka D.: I appreciate your patience, I want to ensure I’m getting you exactly what you need. It will just be another minute or two. Thank you for your understanding.
11:33:29 AM : Me: No problem.
11:37:56 AM : Michka D.: Thank you for your patience.
11:38:36 AM : Michka D.: Me, rest assure that the HP Slatebook x2 has an Intel HD Graphics 4000 in it.
11:38:47 AM : Me: Alright. Thank you very much!
11:39:46 AM : Michka D.: Thank you for informing us regarding this, I'll take note of it for them to revise the date sheet.
11:39:55 AM : Me: Thank you once again!
11:40:31 AM : Michka D.: You are welcome.
11:40:41 AM : Michka D.: Are you in the market today in purchasing the HP Slatebook x2?
11:40:48 AM : Me: Not today, but soon. Thank you!
So yes, because of Me (rofl) they will be revising their Data Sheet soon on their website!
THIS IS THE FREAKING NEWS OF THE CENTURY FOR ANDROID GAMERS!!!!
It's a typo... it will come with the regular geforce gpu
krispy1 said:
It's a typo... it will come with the regular geforce gpu
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Not according to HP it won't.
In any case, I will be purchasing the Slatebook x2 and I will find out personally if it comes with the HD 4000.
Intel isn't the best at battery life. If it is a PC Slate.
Also, if it is an Intel chip, it EMULATES ARM code, so while it may be faster as a whole, emulating ARM might make it slower.
The whole Intel/Android marriage is too new to really know how it will work. Have fun!
I'd hold your excitement until it's actually official...chat reps are not always the most accurate sources of information.
detonation said:
I'd hold your excitement until it's actually official...chat reps are not always the most accurate sources of information.
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This ^
the chat reps work through a 3rd party company. they are just reading off the spec lists. They are looking at the same typo.
player911 said:
Intel isn't the best at battery life. If it is a PC Slate.
Also, if it is an Intel chip, it EMULATES ARM code, so while it may be faster as a whole, emulating ARM might make it slower.
The whole Intel/Android marriage is too new to really know how it will work. Have fun!
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It's not a PC Slate, it's an Android slate.
It's not an Intel CPU, it's an NVIDIA Tegra 4 CPU.
It also comes with TWO batteries - one in the tablet, and one in the keyboard dock. So battery life will not be an issue.
As I said originally, I will update and let you guys know once I get my hands on one personally!
HP employee?
don't get me wrong, but the OP is totally comparing apples to oranges. Sad that HP has resorted to this type of marketing, as clearly the OP is an employee of the company. Wonder if he has posted over on the Nexus 10 forum the same thing?
Geodude074 said:
It's not a PC Slate, it's an Android slate.
It's not an Intel CPU, it's an NVIDIA Tegra 4 CPU.
It also comes with TWO batteries - one in the tablet, and one in the keyboard dock. So battery life will not be an issue.
As I said originally, I will update and let you guys know once I get my hands on one personally!
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I thought HP dropped out of the tablet market? If it is a Tegra 4, I don't see it having an intel 4000 chipset. Isnt the Tegra4 CPU/GPU married together?
So it's basically a new Asus Transformer?
Nexus 6 got benchmarked from Geekbench few days ago (spotted by GadgetzArena.com).
http://blog.gadgetzarena.com/rumours/motorola-shamu-nexus-6-spotted-in-geekbench-benchmarks/
I don't get why release with Snappy 805 without 64bit support but Android L is 64Bit....
The battle will come when 808 / 810 release in 2015.:silly:
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I don't get why release with Snappy 805 without 64bit support but Android L is 64Bit....
The battle will come when 808 / 810 release in 2015.:silly:
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Um where did google state android L has to be 64gb?
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ps000000 said:
I don't get why release with Snappy 805 without 64bit support but Android L is 64Bit....
The battle will come when 808 / 810 release in 2015.:silly:
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I've seen a lot of people complaining about this. Who cares if it comes with a 64-bit processor versus a 32-bit? Do you need 4GB+ of ram for arguing that you must have a 64-bit OS? Or are you hoping they launch it in 64-bit so you get the next latest and greatest processor? Android L will launch in 32/64-bit flavors. I would put my bet on the tablet containing the 64-bit version.
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Um where did google state android L has to be 64gb?
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Nowhere, what gigabytes has to do with Android L?
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Nowhere, what gigabytes has to do with Android L?
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I meant 64bit processor being a requirement.
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Totally agree with adio01, I believe that having 64 bit support will only be useful if you need to allocate more than 4GB of memory. There is however, a per process limit of 3GB on 32bit. So 64bit support would make sense if you:
a) Have more than 4GB of RAM
b) Have an application that is very very thirsty and needs more than 3GB of memory
Scenario a is obvious. If the device has less than 4GB of memory there is no problem. 64bit actually introduces some additional overhead so it might actually perform marginally worse than 32bit.
Scenario b is very unlikely on a mobile device. This would make sense when doing heavy video editting or photoshop on a desktop.
It does look good on the box though but that would be beneficial to marketing only.
So what's the screen size for it? Some sites say 5.9 and others 5.2. I'm hoping it's not 5.9..
64bit has lots more advantages than larger memory addressing capabilities!
Know your facts before spouting off in a public forum!
HTC One M8
We've had a Nexus 6 rumor thread dedicated since March :http://forum.xda-developers.com/google-nexus-5/general/google-nexus-6-t2696145
Please use that one to continue discussion.
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