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http://pocketnow.com/android/motorola-atrix-dock-150-available-first-at-best-buy
Cheaper than i thought.
wow. that's great news! Much cheaper than I thought..I was expecting it to be in the $200-250 range. Now the only question is how much this phone will cost outright (no contract) .....
was bout to post this
this is really good news
I'm guessing some of the price will be offset by the actual handset price. I hope but doubt it will be the standard pricing that we are use to, probably $100 more I'm guessing.
Price makes sense really considering the laptop dock is just a screen, keyboard and trackpad. No expensive internals to worry about, the Atrix has that covered
since the laptop dock got no cpu or other hardwares.
can i run webtop OS on phone screen? i want my streaming stock quotes or level II quote running on java applets!
much better then i thought
Considering the Atrix has enough power to run Windows 7, if they can get it to THAT in the dock, it'll be perfect. And if it can't? Still worth it, I'll totally buy it. As of this moment, I can't see myself buying anything else.
good luck trying to run Windows 7 on an ARM-based CPU.
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good luck trying to run Windows 7 on an ARM-based CPU.
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Well, in case it fails you've still got the Citrix Receiver
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good luck trying to run Windows 7 on an ARM-based CPU.
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Good point, though two things:
- Windows 8 will run on ARM, and it'd take almost as long to hack and truly pimp out this laptop dock as it will to see a beta of Windows 8
- The rumors of an ARM version of Windows 7 have been gaining steam rapidly lately. Considering netbooks with less power than the Atrix have run it, the possibility is there.
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Well, in case it fails you've still got the Citrix Receiver
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As far as I know, that requires a Citrix server, whatever that is. I'll stick with Remote Desktop, for which there appear to be some good Linux options.
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As far as I know, that requires a Citrix server, whatever that is. I'll stick with Remote Desktop, for which there appear to be some good Linux options.
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Citrix, at least what we use at work, suffers from poor latency issues, and a few other bugs. For what we use it for, it really sucks. I'll ask one of our IT guys tomorrow and get some more details. We could be running an old version, or old hardware. When we talked about expansion, we were told point blank that we couldn't do it with Citrix. And that was some pretty simple stuff we wanted...
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I'd be really happy, If I could install Android Honeycomb and use it in Webtop mode (in Laptop Dock). Maybe it'd need synchronization between apllications from Atrix Android and Webtop mode Android. It'd be pretty, pretty cool.
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Citrix, at least what we use at work, suffers from poor latency issues, and a few other bugs. For what we use it for, it really sucks. I'll ask one of our IT guys tomorrow and get some more details. We could be running an old version, or old hardware.
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Strange, it seems to work well for this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WzeIGZKW_Y#t=1m07s
Mefa2 said:
I'd be really happy, If I could install Android Honeycomb and use it in Webtop mode (in Laptop Dock). Maybe it'd need synchronization between apllications from Atrix Android and Webtop mode Android. It'd be pretty, pretty cool.
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Even more logical would be to have the device simply be running Honeycomb, and use the new Honeycomb UI when attached to a large screen, and the standard phone UI for the small screen. Then there wouldn't even need to be any synchronization, it would all just be android apps. But you would maybe need to tweak the Honeycomb UI to be workable for mouse/keyboard and/or the IR remote instead of multitouch; that might be why Motorola didn't wait for Honeycomb and go for that approach.
Rastor, thanks for that! We're probably on a very old version then lol. Nothing we oo with Citrix is anywhere near that fast. And it's nothing to do with connection speed, because our connection is top of the line. I'm quite impressed after that video. Thanks!
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Glad to see a reasonable price. Looking like a great device.
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As far as I know, that requires a Citrix server, whatever that is. I'll stick with Remote Desktop, for which there appear to be some good Linux options.
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It's really good software that costs an arm and a leg. Over $900 dollars for the licenses, and I think that's just 5 licenses. :/
I wish there was an equally as good alternative for windows, for significantly cheaper.
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I have to apologize. I talked to a couple IT guys yesterday, and they told me our issue with Citrix was old hardware. We updated those servers not too long ago, and I got to play with it (usually not something I have to do). Looks to me like it will work quite well for remote access. My apologies for the bad information.
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- The rumors of an ARM version of Windows 7 have been gaining steam rapidly lately. Considering netbooks with less power than the Atrix have run it, the possibility is there..
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If you are referring to Atom netbooks those are actually more powerful than Tegra 2 despite being single core.
Even if Microsoft ports Windows 7 to ARM next to no programs will even run on it.
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It's really good software that costs an arm and a leg. Over $900 dollars for the licenses, and I think that's just 5 licenses. :/
I wish there was an equally as good alternative for windows, for significantly cheaper.
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google "Remote Desktop Services"
Before all the hardcore Android fans start swearing at me for asking this question.... there is a reason for asking it.
As the title explains...... has anyone been able to install Windows 7 on the TF101 (aka Transformer) ?
I've read a couple of articles online that the tablet was suppose to come with Windows 7 on it, which would mean that somewhere, someone at Asus has already done it.
Any of the developers on here know how to install Windows 7 on the TF101 ?
Article links below :
http://www.technologyrekor.eu/asus-eee-pad-tf101-windows-7-tab-gets-fcc-nod.html
http://www.electronista.com/articles/11/03/14/specs.expected.to.be.similar.to.ep121/
http://topsgadget.info/asus-eee-pad-tf101-comes-to-fcc-tablet-with-windows-7/990
Well, I am a Windows guy and I would love to have it running in the Decepticon but as far as I know there is no Tegra version of Windows 7.
You will have to wait for Windows 8.
It would be cool to have VMWare for Android.
I read here somewhere that there might be a problem with drivers. I would like to see that too!
Sent from my TF101
Yeah its an issue with the CPU type, its the same reason you couldn't virtualize or install windows on Macs before they changed to an x86 architecture. Windows 8 is the first one designed to run both on x86 and ARM processors, its much deeper than drivers though, even the applications will have to behave differently.
check out the links..... someone obviously has a TF101 with windows 7 on it.
Just a matter of finding out how it was done.
Since the TF101 uses a Tegra 2 processor (not an Intel CULV as some early press reports stated), and Windows 7 does not support the Tegra 2 architecture, unfortunately installing Windows 7 on it is not possible.
Windows 8 will have ARM support, so there'll be a chance that works...
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Since the TF101 uses a Tegra 2 processor (not an Intel CULV as some early press reports stated), and Windows 7 does not support the Tegra 2 architecture, unfortunately installing Windows 7 on it is not possible.
Windows 8 will have ARM support, so there'll be a chance that works...
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forgive me for being dumb...... but check the date release on those articles. They are only 2 weeks old. I dont think it would be humanly possible to swap out the chipset, redesign the boards architecture and have it fully released in stores in just 1 week. These guys must have gotten their info from somewhere.
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forgive me for being dumb...... but check the date release on those articles. They are only 2 weeks old. I dont think it would be humanly possible to swap out the chipset, redesign the boards architecture and have it fully released in stores in just 1 week. These guys must have gotten their info from somewhere.
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Two weeks old? Can I borrow your Tardis then, because all three are dated in March!
March 12th
March 14th
March 15th
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Its not a matter of switching the chip set and redesigning it. Those articles are just plain wrong and off base. It seems like they were just speculating based on other similar tablets being released at the time. The TF101 has an the Tegra 2 which is clearly a fact. All these articles mention completely different hardware. One of them even mentions a core i5.
It is not possible with the hardware that is in the tablet to run any current version of Windows. I promise there is not a TF101 somewhere running Windows 7, even internally at ASUS.
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check out the links..... someone obviously has a TF101 with windows 7 on it.
Just a matter of finding out how it was done.
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Someone, somewhere, made a mistake and others ran with the story.
Apparently reading comprehension is low here or many of you didn't actually read the article attached and just assumed by looking at the pictures.
1. Pictures are not of the TF101, look at the placement of the mini HDMI vs the headphone jack. This is obviously a different model
2. CPU is claimed to be an Intel CULV model not a nVidia SOC of any kind.
3. As previously stated there is no current Windows desktop version that will run on any type of ARM device, so the current TF won't/can't run windows.
4. Just because the headline is dated two months ago doesn't mean there is a working version, there seems to be just enough to send to the FCC for certification.
5. Most likely a pre-production tablet used for testing and/or development, so yes they can swap internal parts and test to their hearts content.
Just because we may wish it to be true doesn't make it so.
If you really want an Asus tablet running Windows they already have the ASUS Eee Pad (Eee Slate) EP121-1A011M Intel Core i5.
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Two weeks old? Can I borrow your Tardis then, because all three are dated in March!
March 12th
March 14th
March 15th
Regards,
Dave
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woops... i meant 2 months. (fingers ran away from me..my bad)
...still, that isn't a lot of time to completely redesign tablet architecture.
But, given the benefit of the doubt....what are the chances of even dual booting the WP7, WM6.5 or even the Windows 8 Beta version on these tablets ?
Heck, they were able to install Windows 98 on the HD2. I hadn't done it personally, but saw a thread on how to make it happen.
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Apparently reading comprehension is low here or many of you didn't actually read the article attached and just assumed by looking at the pictures.
1. Pictures are not of the TF101, look at the placement of the mini HDMI vs the headphone jack. This is obviously a different model
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5. Most likely a pre-production tablet used for testing and/or development, so yes they can swap internal parts and test to their hearts content.
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It's clearly a preproduction model - you can see that it's running a 2.x version of Android from the icons in the top notification bar!
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Dave
Why is this in the Dev thread?
Could 1 of the Developers give an indication whether it would be possible to port another OS to these tablets ?
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woops... i meant 2 months. (fingers ran away from me..my bad)
...still, that isn't a lot of time to completely redesign tablet architecture.
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They didn't redesign the tablet - the article(s) are all wrong. Occams razor!
But, given the benefit of the doubt....what are the chances of even dual booting the WP7, WM6.5 or even the Windows 8 Beta version on these tablets ?
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Unless we get a version of NVFlash that works with the Transformer, zero.
Even with a version of NVFlash that works with the Transformer, the chances are pretty close to zero without access to source.
Heck, they were able to install Windows 98 on the HD2. I hadn't done it personally, but saw a thread on how to make it happen.
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In an emulated environment - very different thing to running Windows 7!
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Someone, somewhere, made a mistake and others ran with the story.
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This ^^^^^^^^^^
Why is this thread even here?
Maybe it's cocky of me to even ask, but I find it hard to believe that people in the dev section don't understand that Windows is currently x86 and not ARM. It's been that way forever. You'll never get Windows on an Android tablet until x86 versions of Android become commonplace.
Speculation is that Windows 8 will support ARM but I'm extremely skeptical. It makes no sense. ARM versions of windows wouldn't be able to run x86 executables unless there's some sort of emulation layer, and the performance would be horrible. I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft shelves that feature before Windows 8 is released.
I'm hopeful we'll see native Ubuntu on ARM, but even then, who cares. I mean, we're expecting all this from a $399 tablet here. We splurged on this expensive toy; if we can spend that on a toy, we can buy a cheap laptop/netbook and throw or OS(es) of choice on it.
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It's definitely NOT possible as others have already stated in this thread. Windows does not currently run on the ARM CPU architecture at all. People have gotten older versions of windows working, only Windows 3.1 and early afaik but they did so through a DOS emulator that you launch from within Android and the performance is supposed to be ****ty.
When Windows 8 comes out, that is said to have an ARM compatible version that we might be able to install, but that's not going to be for a while.
Someone lock and move this thread to trash...
*Waits for the bombardment of hate*
I don't want it on my TF01 as I love Honeycomb and personally Android is far superior, but I was just wondering if it would actually be possible due to the TF01 running what is essentially the same chipset as the iPad 2.
OSX got ported to PC's with an Intel chip, so what would be stopping iOS getting put on the TF01?
Again, Im not asking when its going to be done, im just wondering as proof of concept since it just hit me they have the same chipset. So yeah, in theory, could it be done?
Here we go.........
I like iOS as well but if you wanted iOS....then you REALLY should have gotten a iPad instead.
With respect.
EDIT: I misunderstood. Apologies.
It may be possible. ANYTHING is possible.
Digiguest said:
I like iOS as well but if you wanted iOS....then you REALLY should have gotten a iPad instead.
With respect.
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With respect. Did you actually read my post?
Evostance said:
With respect. Did you actually read my post?
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With respect did you see my edit?
Digiguest said:
With respect did you see my edit?
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With respect, I have now No worries
Im not an Apple lover who really wanted an iPad.
Simply wondering for proof of concept.
iPad use custom ARM A4 and A5 processors. I doubt they'll run on anything else (and I'm sure Apple has done a lot to make sure it stays that way).
Where's the auto-ban here?!
I'm sure it's possible since the architecture is similar. Though it's doubtful anyone would care enough to invest the time required to make the port possible.
Though I am looking forward to the HAL 9000 port... not that different than iOS
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due to the TF01 running what is essentially the same chipset as the iPad.
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Only similarity in pocessor chips is they are both licensed by ARM
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iPad use custom ARM A4 and A5 processors. I doubt they'll run on anything else (and I'm sure Apple has done a lot to make sure it stays that way).
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Hmm...seems to me all is needed is to inject a CPU driver into iOS to make it work with Tegra.
akarol said:
Where's the auto-ban here?!
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...and yet....you are still here.
The Tegra 2 is Dual Core A9 processors with an Nvidia GeForce 333 chip. The iPad 2 uses the same Dual Core A9 processors, just with a PowerVR SGX 543MP instead.
Hence why I asked the question
I still have an old iPod laying around.. I would rather get android on that..
( http://www.idroidproject.org/ )
ppirate said:
I still have an old iPod laying around.. I would rather get android on that..
( http://www.idroidproject.org/ )
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Yeah but Android is open source so..
Like I said, OSX on PC has been done because they both use Intel. Now both the Asus and iPad 2 use A9's so its a challenge if anyone wants it (if its possible)
even if it was possible iPad doesnt have a 16:9 screen so it would look like poop, would def love to just have ubuntu instead
Edit: please delete. I didn't refresh page for a loooong time
cowballz69 said:
even if it was possible iPad doesnt have a 16:9 screen so it would look like poop, would def love to just have ubuntu instead
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Thats not the point though, its proof of concept. HTC said Sensation couldn't go on older phones but they got it on the DHD and it was all out of size. That was sorted out eventually though
iOS is closed source, just like all the rest of Apple's software. iOS on the Xoom/Transformer/Galaxy Tab 10.1 won't happen because there are no drivers for Tegra on iOS, and without the source code, only Apple knows how to write drivers for it. The only people capable of porting iOS to other devices are Apple's own developers.
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Like I said, OSX on PC has been done because they both use Intel.
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OSX on PC has been done because Apple themselves originally made a port of OSX for x86 architecture, and all modern Macs use the exact same hardware that has been available on PCs. This means that hackers for projects like OSX86 don't even have to write new drivers if your motherboard specs match that of a recent Mac. OSX has the drivers to support a fairly large range of hardware, because unlike iPhones and iPads, high end Macs are designed to taken apart so you can install new hardware, with a few limitations of course for quality control.
The EULA for OSX actually states that you are in violation of its terms by installing OSX to a non-Apple device, which means no warranty or support from Apple if it all goes belly up. Furthermore, Apple implements their own specialized bootloader for the precise purpose of making it near impossible to run OSX on anything that doesn't possess special Apple branding on the firmware level.
Apple software is only designed for Apple devices. Enforcing that artificial restriction is what allows Apple to sell their devices at such a premium price, and if there ever existed a way to install iOS to something besides an iPhone or iPad, you can bet that Apple would sue the pants off the developer, because that's their main revenue stream at risk.
Short version: No
Long Version: Hackintoshes can happen why people find PC's that match the hardware of existing or old Macs, This is because OsX contains drivers for many older Macs. iOS has a smaller kernel built only for the version of the device it's on. How many android devices do you know that can run an unmodified build from a different phone? virtually none. And how do Android hackers get non-native builds to work:
1. Recompile source from AOSP -> no source available for iOS
2. Recompile Just Kernel with new drivers -> no available Kernel source for iOS devices
3. Swap binary blob drivers from other devices -> no iOS binary blob drivers available for any Android devices
4. Unlock bootloader to boot different OS builds -> iOS requires specific boot hardware that no Android device has.
Every single bit of wiggle room we normally have is a dead end on iOS, so no, its never going to happen.
Crossposting from Transformer Prime General, so that people aren't shocked when they can't download it for their TF101. ::sigh::
Blog post here, Market link here. $6.99.
Lucky Tegra 3 users.
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Crossposting from Transformer Prime General, so that people aren't shocked when they can't download it for their TF101. ::sigh::
Blog post here, Market link here. $6.99.
Lucky Tegra 3 users.
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Booooooooooooooo that sucks. Maybe we can use an another app
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That's fantastic. A remote desktop client requiring 5 cores.
Here I thought my 1-core 1GB "AD-based VPN+remote desktop client" VMware image was earthshatteringly inefficient, but I guess someone was able to one-up me on that.
I remember back in the days when we used to create thin clients out of obsolete 386 and 486's by making them boot linux and run rdesktop on boot. You could do that with 16MB of ram and a 16Mhz CPU.
Are Splashtop telling us that 2x1GHz CPU and 1GB of RAM is not enough to run remote desktop? Seriously?
This is hilarious.
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That's fantastic. A remote desktop client requiring 5 cores.
Here I thought my 1-core 1GB "AD-based VPN+remote desktop client" VMware image was earthshatteringly inefficient, but I guess someone was able to one-up me on that.
I remember back in the days when we used to create thin clients out of obsolete 386 and 486's by making them boot linux and run rdesktop on boot. You could do that with 16MB of ram and a 16Mhz CPU.
Are Splashtop telling us that 2x1GHz CPU and 1GB of RAM is not enough to run remote desktop? Seriously?
This is hilarious.
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You can still use the regular version of Splashtop for remote desktop.
It's just that THD is designed to be able to do things that require higher processing power.
I am actually happy to see this because it means I will have better experience when/if I get a tegra 3 tablet.
However, I am still skeptical of the praticality of it because it will require even greater Internet bandwidth and stability on the receiving device for more advanced content streaming. Starbucks wifi won't be adequate, no way. You will need at least 3G quality connection.
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You can still use the regular version of Splashtop for remote desktop.
It's just that THD is designed to be able to do things that require higher processing power.
I am actually happy to see this because it means I will have better experience when/if I get a tegra 3 tablet.
However, I am still skeptical of the praticality of it because it will require even greater Internet bandwidth and stability on the receiving device for more advanced content streaming. Starbucks wifi won't be adequate, no way. You will need at least 3G quality connection.
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im perfectly fine with them making a higher end version of Splashtop, but is our version made for tegra 2? I ran it and it was not a good experience for me
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I use Splashtop remote to access my desktop from Afghanistan, but since going to ICS it opens, and tries to connect to my desktop but once it does the app just closes. Still works on my HTC Thunderbolt, but no dice on my TF101.
Any suggestions?
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I use Splashtop remote to access my desktop from Afghanistan, but since going to ICS it opens, and tries to connect to my desktop but once it does the app just closes. Still works on my HTC Thunderbolt, but no dice on my TF101.
Any suggestions?
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u should try to delete all data in the app from settings, then uninstall, reboot and reinstall, hopefully that will solve the problem
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josteink said:
Are Splashtop telling us that 2x1GHz CPU and 1GB of RAM is not enough to run remote desktop? Seriously?
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More likely it use native components that they've hacked together and don't want to back port to Tegra 2, or maybe nVidia only gave way for Tegra 3. I'm not sure what tools they have for developers.
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More likely it use native components that they've hacked together and don't want to back port to Tegra 2, or maybe nVidia only gave way for Tegra 3. I'm not sure what tools they have for developers.
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.... I hope really Nvidia diden't do that, some games are already tegra3 exclusive. With gamelofts tf101 freeze out (nobody knows why) its like we have a foreveralone unit among other android units (which already have less apps then ios)
sorry for my *****ing, but asus needs to put some demands on developers
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.... I hope really Nvidia diden't do that, some games are already tegra3 exclusive. With gamelofts tf101 freeze out (nobody knows why) its like we have a foreveralone unit among other android units (which already have less apps then ios)
sorry for my *****ing, but asus needs to put some demands on developers. Apple consumers stupidty made corporations think we will buy anything because of some apps exclusivity (siri big lol)
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What's bad about some games being tegra 3 exclusive? Technology moves on, man. Also, companies want to make money.
It's just like how older CPUs and GPUs can't handle some of the new computer games.
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What's bad about some games being tegra 3 exclusive? Technology moves on, man. Also, companies want to make money.
It's just like how older CPUs and GPUs can't handle some of the new computer games.
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Beg to disagree... Tegra 2 is less than a year old, and should not be considered as antiquated. i use linux at home, with an aasus eeepc 701G, the netbook that started it all, and can continue using the latest linux versions. And with the tf101, i am stuck to what asus wants, and cannot use linux.
I bought the tf101 in september, but it already feels old... Why?
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Beg to disagree... Tegra 2 is less than a year old, and should not be considered as antiquated. i use linux at home, with an aasus eeepc 701G, the netbook that started it all, and can continue using the latest linux versions. And with the tf101, i am stuck to what asus wants, and cannot use linux.
I bought the tf101 in september, but it already feels old... Why?
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Our 701s(use mine as freenas) arent expected to hang with the atom processor that soon followed in newer netbooks can do either. Nothing out of the ordinary. It feels old because we have to constantly hear about the latest and greatest gadgets and toys all the damn time now lol. Apparently their marketing strategy is working on us. I just fire up shadowgun to remind myself that this old girl ain't so bad
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Beg to disagree... Tegra 2 is less than a year old, and should not be considered as antiquated. i use linux at home, with an aasus eeepc 701G, the netbook that started it all, and can continue using the latest linux versions. And with the tf101, i am stuck to what asus wants, and cannot use linux.
I bought the tf101 in september, but it already feels old... Why?
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Developers are free to do what they want. If they want to make a program that requires stronger processing unit than tegra 2, so be it. You are in no position to complain. No one is forcing you to use their program.
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Developers are free to do what they want. If they want to make a program that requires stronger processing unit than tegra 2, so be it. You are in no position to complain. No one is forcing you to use their program.
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No you are correct on that, but that isnt the point, with PCs a good one built for gaming can last up to 4 years playing stuff really well (maybe longer now that most PC games are ported from consoles), Tegra 2 tablets havent even been out a year really and now they are on Tegra 3 trying to essentially skip over Tegra 2 devices, if a game can be designed for Tegra 3 it should be available in a Tegra 2 version with some dumbed down graphics, I dont see how this would be so hard, plus the number of people actually using Tegra 3 tablets is pretty small as Asus is really the only one that has one out there with the Prime.
Why would these developers limit their potential user/buyer base so much? I hate to say it (and I love my android phone and tablet) but Google and the Android market are so fragmented its crazy, no wonder top apps come out on IOS first and quite a lot stay exclusive, one OS to worry about and the same specs across the millions of users that own one, the Ipad has pretty much become the console of the tablet world and Android Tablets are the PCs
As far as Splashtop goes, I paid for the Splashtop HD version because it was so much nicer than the regular version, it works fantastic with my Transformer, so I'm not sure why anyone is upset that there is a version that takes advantage of what the Tegra 3 can do, there is already a great HD version for Tegra 2 out there, which is what I was talking about at the top of my post
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New Galaxy Tab uses an Intel processor
Combined Galaxy and Ativ unveiling
Here's what I'm seeing with this news:
A. Samsung makes Galaxy/Ativ devices which are strikingly similar, possibly use same accessories
B. Samsung makes one device which runs both platforms, but can be purchased as each platform separately, each with slightly different hardware to match a price point (E.G. Galaxy tab $400 with 2GB RAM, Galaxy/Ativ $600 with 4GB RAM, keyboard dock):fingers-crossed: :good:
C. Samsung simply unveils separate devices, but the Galaxy is jailbroken, and since it runs on an Intel chip, Windows 8 can be installed via OEM license.:victory:
What do you think? Will any of it happen? I sure hope! This would be the ultimate device... even better than the Surface! :laugh:
PLEASE SAMSUNG??? :fingers-crossed:
UPDATE: GGGGAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!! SAMSUNG DID IT! The Samsung Ativ Q!
I know this might be a long shot but I am kind of hoping that they release one device that integrates both OS's into one, that would be very awesome and something i might buy
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AAAAHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! ASUS HAS DONE IT! This is the most amazing thing ever, hopefully it's not phantomware (it sure doesn't look like it!). Asus today unveiled the Transformer Book Trio, which runs full Windows 8 on the keyboard dock, and Android on the tablet itself. It actually has two entirely separate systems, but they switch seamlessly. Unfortunately it's not two systems on one processor, meaning if this comes to market, it's gonna cost a small fortune! Anyway, here's the link! :laugh:
I think the trio is the exact opposite of seamless in my opinion.
It is pretty much a windows laptop with a dock for an android tablet which then becomes the screen.
I couldn't work on that. Working on an office document, pull the screen off for some portability at some point, windows and my document are now gone. Thanks for that Asus. That particular scenario could be alleviated with Google docs or similar but there are others problems like it that wouldnt be so easily fixable.
In my opinion. If you want to put two operating systems on the same device then just frigging dual boot. Plenty of atom netbooks used to dual boot between windows 7 starter and android, sisters one does.
Asus Trio
Well, as excited as I am for this - I have to say, if the tablet is undocked, and wont run Windows 8, it is a deal breaker for me. If they made it so that I could dual boot Android / Windows 8 off the tablet, plus dock it into the keyboard for WIndows 8 + dedicated GPU, I would be sold, but to only run Android on the tablet is just plain stupid. Ill wait until I can have a true hybrid device that is not compromised. I feel that they are coming, they just need a bit more work by the OEM's
Well yes this stuff is coming but I honestly think being able to dual boot OS is a silly feature for a consumer release product, who wants to be switching operating system just to run [other] apps on another OS? If you want android and windows in one tablet use bluestacks, if that isn't good enough stop fooling around and either get one or the other or pick one that will allow you to configure dual boot yourself.
Samsung just announced their hybrid tablet!!! :laugh:
Samsung is the largest tablet vendor outside of Apple, so it's noteworthy to see what it brings on the Windows side. Ignoring the AIO/laptop varieties, Sammy's sole Windows tablet, the Ativ Tab 3, disappoints at $699 (w/ keyboard cover) and only a Z2760 Clovertrail instead of Bay Trail.
Unless Samsung has more announcements in store, I don't see a Haswell tablet (or even hybrid) model. In fact, there isn't a hybrid except for the Franken-Q slider, which isn't a mainstream model.
If these are all of Samsung's entries for Windows this year, it's a fairly anemic line-up.