How to update Verizon variant after its unlocked - Moto E4 Questions & Answers

i unlocked my verizon prepaid moto e4 and im using it on cricket but how do i update it to the most recent software update. im on the may security patch and i know theres a new one but it keeps saying my software is up to date. does anyone know? thanks

mjf042 said:
i unlocked my verizon prepaid moto e4 and im using it on cricket but how do i update it to the most recent software update. im on the may security patch and i know theres a new one but it keeps saying my software is up to date. does anyone know? thanks
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Not sure if this will work, but I got a VZW prepaid for my daughter to use on WiFi - it has never had a SIM in it, and it's gotten I think two updates. Did you try pulling your SIM, rebooting, then checking for update (with SIM removed)

mjf042 said:
i unlocked my verizon prepaid moto e4 and im using it on cricket but how do i update it to the most recent software update. im on the may security patch and i know theres a new one but it keeps saying my software is up to date. does anyone know? thanks
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Did you figure anything out on this? I also have an carrier unlocked xt1767, and I'm also on 7.1.1 with the May security update. Checking for an update just tells me I'm on the latest version.

bananaboat23 said:
Did you figure anything out on this? I also have an carrier unlocked xt1767, and I'm also on 7.1.1 with the May security update. Checking for an update just tells me I'm on the latest version.
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nope i still havent

mjf042 said:
nope i still havent
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Damn. Well, I'll keep looking as well, and I'll report back here if I find anything.

bananaboat23 said:
Damn. Well, I'll keep looking as well, and I'll report back here if I find anything.
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ok i will do the same thanks

It will update itself, stop worrying. Other people have newer security patches because their carriers approved them, Verizon didn't yet. It goes by the carrier the phone was made for, not the carrier you are using it on.

andMego said:
It will update itself, stop worrying. Other people have newer security patches because their carriers approved them, Verizon didn't yet. It goes by the carrier the phone was made for, not the carrier you are using it on.
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I'm going off information posted by others in the slickdeals threads for the Verizon Moto E4, and many have posted about updates.

andMego said:
It will update itself, stop worrying. Other people have newer security patches because their carriers approved them, Verizon didn't yet. It goes by the carrier the phone was made for, not the carrier you are using it on.
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We aren't worrying just wondering why others got the July security patch on the same build number as us and we have the may security patch. And I know it's up to the carrier that sold the phone not my current carrier.

Slow roll outs in case something goes wrong? They usually take at least a month.

andMego said:
Slow roll outs in case something goes wrong? They usually take at least a month.
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We're both behind on a July security patch, and it's almost October.

bananaboat23 said:
We're both behind on a July security patch, and it's almost October.
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When did the newer one supposedly come out? More than a month ago? Forget about which month it's for, they don't make the October update with the October patch.

There was a pretty major security patch dated September that is supposed to address this "BlueBorne" vulnerability that has been making waves. I'm interested in this patch because apparently Android 7.1.1 brought some sort of issue with bluetooth low power devices on Moto phones (e4, X Play and others are claimed to be effected, making some BLP devices unable to connect or remain connected). Among other things, my son was excited to upgrade from an e2 to this e4, and he's a pretty avid Pokemon player (yes, that game is still around). There's a BT clip accessory to the game that hasn't worked and it turns out is also related to this BLP bug.
Other versions of Moto phones have had updates rolled out that INCLUDE THE SEPTEMBER SECURITY PATCH, and at least one source claims it not only patches the BlueBorne vulnerability, it also fixes whatever was wrong with the BT low power connections. So, I'm very much looking forward to this patch being rolled out and SOON. But that Moto mentioned got the patch today (10/10), which is dated September. It'll probably be a while longer before Verizon rolls out a version for it. I really hope it does soon.

you wont get updates without a verizon sim. im not sure you can manually flash it either without an unlocked bootloader and root. I could be wrong, maybe rsd light?
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Dishe said:
There was a pretty major security patch dated September that is supposed to address this "BlueBorne" vulnerability that has been making waves. I'm interested in this patch because apparently Android 7.1.1 brought some sort of issue with bluetooth low power devices on Moto phones (e4, X Play and others are claimed to be effected, making some BLP devices unable to connect or remain connected). Among other things, my son was excited to upgrade from an e2 to this e4, and he's a pretty avid Pokemon player (yes, that game is still around). There's a BT clip accessory to the game that hasn't worked and it turns out is also related to this BLP bug.
Other versions of Moto phones have had updates rolled out that INCLUDE THE SEPTEMBER SECURITY PATCH, and at least one source claims it not only patches the BlueBorne vulnerability, it also fixes whatever was wrong with the BT low power connections. So, I'm very much looking forward to this patch being rolled out and SOON. But that Moto mentioned got the patch today (10/10), which is dated September. It'll probably be a while longer before Verizon rolls out a version for it. I really hope it does soon.
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I wouldnt expect Verizon or moto to update these phones very much.

bananaboat23 said:
We're both behind on a July security patch, and it's almost October.
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Hey mine just updated to September security patch I was on WiFi and I also have my cricket sim in the phone. The phone is now no longer vulnerable to blueborne. Build Number is
NDQS26.69-23-2-3
Do check it out and see if you got it.

mjf042 said:
Hey mine just updated to September security patch I was on WiFi and I also have my cricket sim in the phone. The phone is now no longer vulnerable to blueborne. Build Number is
NDQS26.69-23-2-3
Do check it out and see if you got it.
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Just did the same on mine with Tmobile prepaid sim.

Did you lose any GSM functionality from the update? I'm on cricket sim and want to make sure I don't lose anything. Thanks.

glassr said:
Did you lose any GSM functionality from the update? I'm on cricket sim and want to make sure I don't lose anything. Thanks.
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I can confirm you wont lose GSM. Updated running on metropcs.

glassr said:
Did you lose any GSM functionality from the update? I'm on cricket sim and want to make sure I don't lose anything. Thanks.
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Yes I can confirm you do not loose GSM I'm using my cricket sim just fine. It was only a security patch. It was like 46 megabytes very small update.

My Verizon E4 (on which I never activated service) got a notification about an update today (new version: NDQS26.69-23-2-3). Judging by this thread, slow rollout is right.

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New LG v20 wont download update.

I'm on Wi-Fi and fully charged. It says there is an update and that i can download it on Wi-Fi. But there's no way to make it start the download and it's not prompting me. Any tips?
EDIT: Nevermind.... I realized it is just easier to fool the phone by changing the time. Apparently LG does not understand what the words "any time" mean. Stupid idiotic that it will only update after 11pm. But I have the update now by tricking the phone.
What sort of black magic is this?!
LOL, good to know for others who might be stuck in the same boat. :thumbsup:
lotherius said:
I'm on Wi-Fi and fully charged. It says there is an update and that i can download it on Wi-Fi. But there's no way to make it start the download and it's not prompting me. Any tips?
EDIT: Nevermind.... I realized it is just easier to fool the phone by changing the time. Apparently LG does not understand what the words "any time" mean. Stupid idiotic that it will only update after 11pm. But I have the update now by tricking the phone.
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what was the latest update? Were you on stock and got this notification? Also, which version do you have, t mobile, verizon, sprint, etc?
jt1998 said:
what was the latest update? Were you on stock and got this notification? Also, which version do you have, t mobile, verizon, sprint, etc?
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It was on a 2016 firmware, unfortunately I don't remember (terrible I know)... I have T-Mobile and it's completely stock currently. I may have to root in the future to debloat since all of the bloat has the "disable" button greyed out.
Seems resolved now that I changed the time to trick it to update.
lotherius said:
It was on a 2016 firmware, unfortunately I don't remember (terrible I know)... I have T-Mobile and it's completely stock currently. I may have to root in the future to debloat since all of the bloat has the "disable" button greyed out.
Seems resolved now that I changed the time to trick it to update.
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Hmm ok. Can you tell me what it says for your android version under about phone? The v20 was released with 7.0 so I'm curious. Thanks!
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Ok I'm really confused because its almost December and I'm still on the April update. I have confirmed that there have been a spetember and october update but I still didn't get them. Does anyone know how to get the latest security patch

H990ds TWN Security patch?

I haven't received the last security patch in my V20. I have the H990ds TWN variant.
Should I be worried?
Anyone else with this problem?
LG sux big time, latest firmware is from December 2016 ?
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You probably won't receive it either.
Go to this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/restore-v20-to-100-stock-bricked-devices-t3524903
From the given link download the following firmware to update:
H990ds10e_OPEN_SG_DS_OP_0314.kdz
Follow the instructions in the OP to update with the above firmware you downloaded. It's easy, but be aware the .kdz file is something like 2.8GB.
You will then have the latest security patch for your V20 variant, 1 March 2017.
dr jakub said:
LG sux big time, latest firmware is from December 2016 ?
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Yeah, LG really disappoint with this kind of things
rubiicon59 said:
You probably won't receive it either.
Go to this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/restore-v20-to-100-stock-bricked-devices-t3524903
From the given link download the following firmware to update:
H990ds10e_OPEN_SG_DS_OP_0314.kdz
Follow the instructions in the OP to update with the above firmware you downloaded. It's easy, but be aware the .kdz file is something like 2.8GB.
You will then have the latest security patch for your V20 variant, 1 March 2017.
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This a way to update, but keep in mind that you will NOT get any OS updates anymore. That is because your phone is not original branded anymore.
Correct!
But we haven't been getting updates anyway.
So I'm happy with this, and occasionally checking for future updates and installing when found.
AbrahamW08 said:
I haven't received the last security patch in my V20. I have the H990ds TWN variant.
Should I be worried?
Anyone else with this problem?
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Most regions have recent updates till march/april 2017, except the TWN version. I am afraid that we are part of the very unlucky few..........
Yeah but we still have an incredible piece of kit.
Even though root looks an impossibility I'm still chuffed I swapped my G6 for this V20. Probably the best phone I've owned.
rubiicon59 said:
Yeah but we still have an incredible piece of kit.
Even though root looks an impossibility I'm still chuffed I swapped my G6 for this V20. Probably the best phone I've owned.
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Just curious........Why did you swap?
Pierre118 said:
Most regions have recent updates till march/april 2017, except the TWN version. I am afraid that we are part of the very unlucky few..........
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Yeah, I'm afraid of that too...
But what are the differences between these software versions (a,b,c....,g)
As far as I know the only benefit I gained was the security patch update.
I've not had any official OTA update from LG.
Also I have no idea what the position is with other variants.
Renard_Rouge said:
But what are the differences between these software versions (a,b,c....,g)
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I compared the system files between the C(TWN) and E(SGN) version with FX Explorer. A lot of system files have a update. So it is absolutly more than just security updates.
Okayyyyyy
Can you do a comparison between V10c-TWN and V10e-SEA?
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Okayyyyyy
Can you do a comparison between V10c-TWN and V10e-SEA?
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Yes, I can. But it is too much to so. But, there are several updates.
Lol I guessed you'd say that, was just messing.
But thanks for enlightening us.
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Just curious........Why did you swap?
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OK, in a nutshell....
Having only read online reviews I liked the V20 more.
Then after picking up my G6 and handling it for about 90 minutes I wasn't so sure....
Until the owner of this V turned up. 5 minutes with this and I knew the G was going.
So, after less than 2 hours with my G I exchanged it for this V20, LG Quick Cover and £150 cash ?
That's my story. And I'm well pleased.
Only one thing would make this my best phone ever.... yep, root. The amount of stuff I've done with my rooted Z2 over the past 3 years has been awesome and great fun, and it's still a brilliant phone.
Maybe one day.....
V10e-TWN-XX arrived yesterday ?
But VOLTE which they mentioned in release notes for V10e-TWN is nowhere that I can find. Perhaps it is not showing since my carrier at this moment doesn't support it.
I'm not sure anyone has the VoLTE. I haven't.
Although it's not a priority for me its still annoying that LG's official description seems to be plain wrong. But sadly not surprising.
the feature is available if your carrier supports voice over lte future.
I personally checked with a Vodafone sim card

Moto rolling out possible G5 Plus fix for poor audio on Verizon (NPN25-137-43-5)

Per this link to the Lenovo support subforum...
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G5-Moto-G5-Plus/5-Plus-on-Verizon-very-poor-call-quality/m-p/3771443#M9484
08-15-2017 10:01 AM
Hello everyone, if you're using the phone on Verizon, can you got to Settings and check for an update. Let me know if there is one available. If so, please install it and let us know if it's better.
-Tom
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Looks like one has to be on the Verizon network at the moment to get the update. I'm on a VZW MVNO and haven't gotten the update yet on my G5 Plus. Looks like its NPN25-137-43-5 per the Lenovo subforum thread link above. No word yet in that thread if it fixes the poor audio issue for we VZW users. (fingers crossed)
I just got my phone this past Sunday. I had one updated that brought me to -35 and then this afternoon another popped up (installing now) that is bringing me to -43-5. This one was a bigger download than the -35 was. As an aside, this was the easiest phone to get up on Verizon than any other I've done.
It appears the update is currently for the non Amazon ads version of the G5 Plus. That it is for "verizon users" only at the moment. And no word yet if the update contains any additional fixes (like low headset volume) or security patches beyond the VoLTE Verizon voice issue fix.
Hopefully we can get a TWRP flashable version of this. Mine is unlocked, TWRP installed, and rooted and haven't gotten the update.
Nnyan said:
I just got my phone this past Sunday. I had one updated that brought me to -35 and then this afternoon another popped up (installing now) that is bringing me to -43-5. This one was a bigger download than the -35 was. As an aside, this was the easiest phone to get up on Verizon than any other I've done.
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I just got NPN25.137-43-5 here!
March 1, 2017 Security Patch Level, Kernel version: 3.18.31-perf-gb150e16-00024-g727ad83 [email protected]#1
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Nnyan said:
I just got my phone this past Sunday. I had one updated that brought me to -35 and then this afternoon another popped up (installing now) that is bringing me to -43-5. This one was a bigger download than the -35 was. As an aside, this was the easiest phone to get up on Verizon than any other I've done.
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I just got NPN25.137-43-5 here!
March 1, 2017 Security Patch Level, Kernel version: 3.18.31-perf-gb150e16-00024-g727ad83 [email protected]#1
I snatched the ota for NPN25-137-43-5. It's available here. I'm currently using a Verizon MVNO.
Could someone please create a flashable zip for twrp?
Does anyone know if straight talk supports volte, when using Verizon sim? I'll get the volte icon in my status bar, but have never seen a way to enable/disable it. I've also never had problems with call quality. Which leads me to believe that maybe straight talk doesn't really support it.
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Does anyone know if straight talk supports volte, when using Verizon sim? I'll get the volte icon in my status bar, but have never seen a way to enable/disable it. I've also never had problems with call quality. Which leads me to believe that maybe straight talk doesn't really support it.
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The only MVNO that supports VoLTE and VVM is Boom as a standard feature. But I know Total Wireless supports VoLTE on some devices. I use them and still have horrible call/audio quality. I literally have to be on speaker to talk.
Another update from Lenovo. Will be disappointing news for some who will have to wait several more weeks (or longer) before getting the OTA update if they don't decide to push the update themselves using the file discussed recently in another XDA thread.
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G5-Moto-G5-Plus/5-Plus-on-Verizon-very-poor-call-quality/m-p/3777525#M9883
08-21-2017 07:22 AM
Hello everyone,
Thank you to everyone who has gotten the update and has provided feedback. So it looks like we have some confusion and I'd like to provide some feedback. If you had your VZW SIM out of your phone and somehow got the Security patch in June (May security update) then sadly your device will have to wait for the next round of updates. We didn't push the May security update to devices that had an active VZW SIM installed. That being said you'll still get the update but it's likely going to be at least a couple weeks away (hopefully sooner). I know it's not the best scenario, but I wanted to at least give you guys some more information.
-Tom
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I'm using Verizon wireless network never pulled my SIM card I received an update about a week ago and my HD /Volte working great now. Very pleased with the phone now.

Question about the 7.1.1 update

Basically what the title says, I currently have the soak test build of 7.1.1 that was posted some time ago, and I want to know if there is an official update yet, I remember some time ago some people said they already received an ota to 7.1.1, but it was only in some countries, is there a global update out yet? My phone is a xt1601 and it is on september 2017 security patch
Beforehand, thanks to everyone
OTA was finally released in the US last month for XT1607. I did it, unfortunately I had to do a factory reset due to some lockup issues I was having, but it's fine now.
sethyboy13 said:
OTA was finally released in the US last month for XT1607. I did it, unfortunately I had to do a factory reset due to some lockup issues I was having, but it's fine now.
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I read a lot of things about Nougat 7.1.1 on XT1607. You said it's fine but if it is not much to ask, can you elaborate on battery performance versus Marshmallow,or heat issues, or network issues (with WiFi or configuring APNs), etc.? My mother phone was offered the update but I told her to wait until I gather feedback. So far the only clear advantage would be the security patch level (April 2018.)
yituge said:
I read a lot of things about Nougat 7.1.1 on XT1607. You said it's fine but if it is not much to ask, can you elaborate on battery performance versus Marshmallow,or heat issues, or network issues (with WiFi or configuring APNs), etc.? My mother phone was offered the update but I told her to wait until I gather feedback. So far the only clear advantage would be the security patch level (April 2018.)
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In my experience with two unlocked XT1607s the stock Nougat build was a modest refinement over Marshmallow with no (zero) downsides. That may seem nebulous but reflects reality when focused on the big picture. I generally run rooted stock on moto devices (probably own a dozen) and rarely run into significant issues once builds have stabalized. Most reported problems are self-inflicted wounds or purists who would take issue with perfection.
sethyboy13 said:
OTA was finally released in the US last month for XT1607. I did it, unfortunately I had to do a factory reset due to some lockup issues I was having, but it's fine now.
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I am having it crash every time it registers on the cell network. Only way to use the phone is in airplane mode.
yituge said:
I read a lot of things about Nougat 7.1.1 on XT1607. You said it's fine but if it is not much to ask, can you elaborate on battery performance versus Marshmallow,or heat issues, or network issues (with WiFi or configuring APNs), etc.? My mother phone was offered the update but I told her to wait until I gather feedback. So far the only clear advantage would be the security patch level (April 2018.)
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Sorry it took me so long to reply. Unfortunately, even after I did the reset, the freezing continued. However, after I changed some notification settings and disabled a few apps, it stopped. It hasn't froze in over a week now. Maybe it was just instability immediately following the update.
Otherwise, the battery seems about the same as it was on Marshmallow. No issues with WiFi or data, or overheating. I would still be cautious about updating it, though, unless you have the time to fix any potential issues that may appear.
most recent stock firmware for XT1601 US/Canada
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What is the most recent stock firmware which works on XT1601 AT&T, Telus,Rogers (Canada/US)?
Need full stock for fastboot flashing.
Available for download https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/harpia/official/RETAIL/
I see:
XT1602_HARPIA_RETAIL_7.1.1_NPI26.48-43
XT1602_HARPIA_RETAIL_7.1.1_NPIS26.48-43-2
What is the difference between NPI and NPIS?
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What is the most recent stock firmware which works on XT1601 AT&T, Telus,Rogers (Canada/US)?
Need full stock for fastboot flashing.
Available for download https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/harpia/official/RETAIL/
I see:
XT1602_HARPIA_RETAIL_7.1.1_NPI26.48-43
XT1602_HARPIA_RETAIL_7.1.1_NPIS26.48-43-2
What is the difference between NPI and NPIS?
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You have posted the same basic question in multiple threads w/o response which suggests the answer is unknown. Backup what you have now and try the TWRP flashable build which was current as of June 1st. Good luck.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/g4-play/development/fxz-harpia-twrp-flashable-fastboots-t3554840

Latest firmware for H870DS

I've got an H870DS and notice that the security update is Jul-18. Is there no later one? I've checked for an update but the phone is telling me none is available. Seems odd.
paulmerrill said:
I've got an H870DS and notice that the security update is Jul-18. Is there no later one? I've checked for an update but the phone is telling me none is available. Seems odd.
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No, quite the opposite, it would be odd if LG started to release regular updates. Security updates are overrated, software enhancements are more beneficial. Users are the biggest security risk, make sensible decisions with the apps you use, sites accessed, downloads etc and you'll be fine 99% of the time.
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paulmerrill said:
I've got an H870DS and notice that the security update is Jul-18. Is there no later one? I've checked for an update but the phone is telling me none is available. Seems odd.
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Just another thread over 9000 -.-
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/help/update-lg-g6-h870ds-t3637440/page29
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Just another thread over 9000 -.-
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/help/update-lg-g6-h870ds-t3637440/page29
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No update for me. Phone is telling me nada. My current version is V20e-AME-XX July 2018
paulmerrill said:
I've got an H870DS and notice that the security update is Jul-18. Is there no later one? I've checked for an update but the phone is telling me none is available. Seems odd.
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I got an update in August with the August 2018 security patch. Try to use LG Bridge to update your phone if OTA updates don't appear. The Hong Kong version of the V20 got the update with the September security patch, so I expect more updates for the G6 shortly.
Thought I would follow up, got bridge working but no updates, guess I need to wait for the next release, whenever that may be.
paulmerrill said:
Thought I would follow up, got bridge working but no updates, guess I need to wait for the next release, whenever that may be.
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Just received an update today, 1-Nov-18 update. I think it mainly contains security patches.

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