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Every time I track down what is sucking my battery Google come up with a new way for Android to suck even more. I have sorted out various apps, location services, underclocking, etc. Now I find that when there is an update waiting the Play Store punishes me by sucking the juice out of the battery - even though I have it set to automatic updates and to give me notifications if there are updates waiting. No notifications and sometimes the waiting update doesn't even show up in My Apps, unless you switch to the Store Home and then back to My Apps. It might make a little bit of sense if these app updates were waiting for you to approve a change to the permissions but that isn't the case.
I have this problem on my Nexus 4 running rooted stock Android 4.4.4 AND on my waterproof Moto Defy+ running uprooted stock 2.3, so I'm guessing it is the Play Store which is junk. Does anybody know a solution to this? Please? I have tried searching for solutions but there are SO many battery/Android OS problems that I haven't been able to find the answer for this particular one.
I'm almost tempted to go for an iPhone - except that they are junk too. Maybe my next phone should be a Nokia 3310.
(BTW "junk" wasn't the word I originally used)
You're never going to get zero percent battery use, maybe your expectations are out of line?
How much screen on time do you out of a full charge? And what's your %/hour drop when the phone is sitting untouched?
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Badgie said:
Every time I track down what is sucking my battery Google come up with a new way for Android to suck even more. I have sorted out various apps, location services, underclocking, etc. Now I find that when there is an update waiting the Play Store punishes me by sucking the juice out of the battery - even though I have it set to automatic updates and to give me notifications if there are updates waiting. No notifications and sometimes the waiting update doesn't even show up in My Apps, unless you switch to the Store Home and then back to My Apps. It might make a little bit of sense if these app updates were waiting for you to approve a change to the permissions but that isn't the case.
I have this problem on my Nexus 4 running rooted stock Android 4.4.4 AND on my waterproof Moto Defy+ running uprooted stock 2.3, so I'm guessing it is the Play Store which is junk. Does anybody know a solution to this? Please? I have tried searching for solutions but there are SO many battery/Android OS problems that I haven't been able to find the answer for this particular one.
I'm almost tempted to go for an iPhone - except that they are junk too. Maybe my next phone should be a Nokia 3310.
(BTW "junk" wasn't the word I originally used)
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google doesnt come up with a new way for android to suck more battery , YOU DO , note the keyword is YOU , now figure it out .
I was getting under 2% per hour drain then, without me making any changes, when updates came along and Android didn't tell me and Android decided to suck my battery it goes to something like 10% per hour
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I was getting under 2% per hour drain then, without me making any changes, when updates came along and Android didn't tell me and Android decided to suck my battery it goes to something like 10% per hour
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battery life is all dependent on YOUR personal usage, your personal setup, your personal decision to install whatever apps, and very much your phone/data signal. if your data/phone signal is only so so, then youyr battery life will only be so so. if you have things draining your battery besides for your signal and use, its up to you to figure out why. thye battery klife of my nexus 4 and nexus 5, actually, all androids that ive ever owned, has been wonderful. i get the same google apps updates as you, no less. so you have to figure it out.
OK, so as I said previously, with no changes made by Me I am finding that when app updates come along my Nexus doesn't alert me to the need to update but if I don't spot that an update is needed "Android OS" usage climbs and drains my battery until I look for an app update and update it. This is without loading any new apps and with the good signal I always have and all the things I normally have turned off (wifi, BT, location history, Google Now, etc) and slightly underclocked (1.2 GHz).
I'm sorry if criticising Android has offended people but I'm asking if anyone can help me solve yet another battery drain. Assuming that I'm doing something wrong isn't helping unless you can point me at what I'm doing wrong. All I am seeing is that I've sorted out all the known battery drains in my personal set up and yet updates, over which I have no apparent control, are causing another drain. I would like to hear from anyone who might be able to help and I apologise to anyone who is offended that I see an imperfection in the phone we have all chosen.
Thanks in anticipation.
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OK, so as I said previously, with no changes made by Me I am finding that when app updates come along my Nexus doesn't alert me to the need to update but if I don't spot that an update is needed "Android OS" usage climbs and drains my battery until I look for an app update and update it. This is without loading any new apps and with the good signal I always have and all the things I normally have turned off (wifi, BT, location history, Google Now, etc) and slightly underclocked (1.2 GHz).
I'm sorry if criticising Android has offended people but I'm asking if anyone can help me solve yet another battery drain. Assuming that I'm doing something wrong isn't helping unless you can point me at what I'm doing wrong. All I am seeing is that I've sorted out all the known battery drains in my personal set up and yet updates, over which I have no apparent control, are causing another drain. I would like to hear from anyone who might be able to help and I apologise to anyone who is offended that I see an imperfection in the phone we have all chosen.
Thanks in anticipation.
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You need to find out what's causing the battery drain. Get gsam or betterbatterystats. Without one of those you're just guessing.
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You need to find out what's causing the battery drain. Get gsam or betterbatterystats. Without one of those you're just guessing.
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App updates come along. Play Store is set to give notifications and to auto-update. Some app updates don't give notifications and "Android OS" causes a load of wakelocks until I spot that the update needs doing and do it manually. Same thing happens on my wife's stock Nexus 4. We are both in the Uk on Three network and have good signal.
I have BBS but I need to see what it says when I get this app update problem. I will post my findings when I get the info. If nobody here recognises this problem maybe I need to look at what is similar between our two Nexus 4s. I know we both have WhatsApp and, of course, all the Google apps, both on 4.4.4 but there the similarities end.
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Every time I track down what is sucking my battery Google come up with a new way for Android to suck even more. I have sorted out various apps, location services, underclocking, etc. Now I find that when there is an update waiting the Play Store punishes me by sucking the juice out of the battery - even though I have it set to automatic updates and to give me notifications if there are updates waiting. No notifications and sometimes the waiting update doesn't even show up in My Apps, unless you switch to the Store Home and then back to My Apps. It might make a little bit of sense if these app updates were waiting for you to approve a change to the permissions but that isn't the case.
I have this problem on my Nexus 4 running rooted stock Android 4.4.4 AND on my waterproof Moto Defy+ running uprooted stock 2.3, so I'm guessing it is the Play Store which is junk. Does anybody know a solution to this? Please? I have tried searching for solutions but there are SO many battery/Android OS problems that I haven't been able to find the answer for this particular one.
I'm almost tempted to go for an iPhone - except that they are junk too. Maybe my next phone should be a Nokia 3310.
(BTW "junk" wasn't the word I originally used)
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Why don't you try a ROM other than stock? I have flashed countless phones and tuned ROMs always offer better battery life. I don't understand why people go through all the effort of rooting then stick with stock ROMs. I know the general consensus is that the stock ROM (on the Nexus anyway) is one of the best, but let me tell you the general consensus is wrong. It is good, but there are much better custom ROMs.
Oh, and stock 2.3 on the Defy??? Come on man, why are you on XDA? This isn't the Carphone Warehouse helpdesk.
Try something barebones - no bloatware/small rom and choose barebones GAPPS. This will make a huge difference in battery life before you even dive in and stark tweaking further.
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Why don't you try a ROM other than stock? I have flashed countless phones and tuned ROMs always offer better battery life. I don't understand why people go through all the effort of rooting then stick with stock ROMs. I know the general consensus is that the stock ROM (on the Nexus anyway) is one of the best, but let me tell you the general consensus is wrong. It is good, but there are much better custom ROMs.
Oh, and stock 2.3 on the Defy??? Come on man, why are you on XDA? This isn't the Carphone Warehouse helpdesk.
Try something barebones - no bloatware/small rom and choose barebones GAPPS. This will make a huge difference in battery life before you even dive in and stark tweaking further.
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You're wrong. The rom will make very little difference. I constantly get far over 5 hours sot with stock rom and kernel. It's your signal quality and the apps you use and how you set then up that makes the difference
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Why don't you try a ROM other than stock? I have flashed countless phones and tuned ROMs always offer better battery life. I don't understand why people go through all the effort of rooting then stick with stock ROMs. I know the general consensus is that the stock ROM (on the Nexus anyway) is one of the best, but let me tell you the general consensus is wrong. It is good, but there are much better custom ROMs.
Oh, and stock 2.3 on the Defy??? Come on man, why are you on XDA? This isn't the Carphone Warehouse helpdesk.
Try something barebones - no bloatware/small rom and choose barebones GAPPS. This will make a huge difference in battery life before you even dive in and stark tweaking further.
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one more thing, you do not need root or to be rooted to run a custom rom or kernel. the only thing that root is need for is to change system files or to run root apps. but yea, you can get great battery life on stock.
I have been getting great battery life from the stock ROM after a few tweaks apart from this problem with updates. I have had a couple of other ROMs on this phone but went back to stock after the last couple of system updates. When I'm not having this particular battery drain then, if I leave the phone alone, I'm getting about 1%/hr battery drain. Also my wife doesn't want her Nexus "messed about with" and it helps if the two are fairly similar. Xposed is the big difference between the two.
The Defy+ is on 2.3 because I only use it when I'm out hiking and it might rain. The Defy is not easy to upgrade and 2.3 was where Android got good, so I'm OK with it, if that's all right with you.
BTW I have a degree in Electronics & Physics plus 17 years postgraduate experience in software engineering in the defence sector. So it's not that I'm not technical I just choose not to make a hobby out of keeping my phones working.
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BTW I have a degree in Electronics & Physics plus 17 years postgraduate experience in software engineering in the defence sector. So it's not that I'm not technical I just choose not to make a hobby out of keeping my phones working.
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That's nice
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You're wrong. The rom will make very little difference. I constantly get far over 5 hours sot with stock rom and kernel. It's your signal quality and the apps you use and how you set then up that makes the difference
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over 5hr sot with stock kernel and rom? impossible......do you even use any 3rd party app on your phone? i get tops 3,5h all stock with NO DATA at ALL, and i turn off sync/wifi when i dont use the phone, with a custom kernel i get close to 5h
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over 5hr sot with stock kernel and rom? impossible......do you even use any 3rd party app on your phone? i get tops 3,5h all stock with NO DATA at ALL, and i turn off sync/wifi when i dont use the phone, with a custom kernel i get close to 5h
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i see 5h sot nearly every day i use n4, so its not impossible. its a matter of your signal quality and usage. when im using LTE, i always se 5h sot. on hspa+, i see 4-4.5h sot. i have everything enabled and am a heavy user, plus have 96 apps installed. no facebook on any of my devices though. and i never ever disable data.
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You're wrong. The rom will make very little difference. I constantly get far over 5 hours sot with stock rom and kernel. It's your signal quality and the apps you use and how you set then up that makes the difference
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A stripped down ROM running only the bare minimum can greatly improve battery life! Just have a sift through some custom ROMs and you will find the ones that are tuned to do such a thing.
Also in reply to others here, the advantage of being rooted means you can remove unwanted system apps, underclock etc which if you're concerned about battery life would be quite important I would have thought.
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You need to find out what's causing the battery drain. Get gsam or betterbatterystats. Without one of those you're just guessing.
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This is what you need to do if you want to persist with the stock ROM. I personally have used betterbatterystats with success. Use this to check wakelocks as these are often the cause of mystery battery drain. There is an old but useful guide to that here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827676
PS. Your Electronics degree gave me a semi
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PS. Your Electronics degree gave me a semi
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Me too. That was a difficult three years.
simms22 said:
i see 5h sot nearly every day i use n4, so its not impossible. its a matter of your signal quality and usage. when im using LTE, i always se 5h sot. on hspa+, i see 4-4.5h sot. i have everything enabled and am a heavy user, plus have 96 apps installed. no facebook on any of my devices though. and i never ever disable data.
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Not possible with the 2100mah that n4 has! I have the same set up and I'm getting 3h sot..
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i see 5h sot nearly every day i use n4, so its not impossible. its a matter of your signal quality and usage. when im using LTE, i always se 5h sot. on hspa+, i see 4-4.5h sot. i have everything enabled and am a heavy user, plus have 96 apps installed. no facebook on any of my devices though. and i never ever disable data.
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i never use data and i average 3,5-4h sot?
I wanted to start a semi-general discussion about battery life/issues/bugs on Lollipop. I'm using the VZW 2014 X, but I'm sure that the Pure Edition discussion will be similar (especially now that we're both on 22.21.11).
The two topics I'd like to discuss to start are:
1. What's draining your battery most (and why is it Google Play Services)? Solutions/bugs? For example, today I'm seeing what happens when I disable Location Reporting (and not History, for now).
2. Does the usage percentage reporting seem off to anyone else? The percentages are always very small (I'm guessing maybe they're supposed to add up to the total battery drain percentage), especially the Screen. When I use mine heavily, Screen will never take much more than 5-7%, if that.
All that aside I have been happy with battery life--it's at least 1.5 times better than my 2013 Moto X. I get down to 30% or so after a full day, can push 3.5-4 hours screen on time, and normally projects to last 20-24 hours with moderate usage.
I've been using the 22.21.6 OTA on my Pure Edition for a little while, rooted with Greenify. Google Play Services is taking up the most battery, it seems. No Facebook, although I do have some other social networks (Twitter, Instagram). It lasts me a day although I don't have too much SOT on it. I think yesterday it went from 7:00 to 23:00 (16 hours) with an hour or two of SOT with 30% or so left. Not great but it suits my needs. That was the first day since I got it that I've actually tested a full day of usage, in previous days I had been either messing with stuff over USB (rooting and programming) or on a long road trip with my hockey team that pushed me to way heavier than normal usage so I was charging a lot. Can't really blame Moto for that, though, it was hours of SOT for sure.
Today I deleted Google Fit (I just wanted to see it, but I don't think I'll use it that much and I feel like it might have something to do with it) and am using a different locations policy by turning off reporting and switching from always-on battery saver to using high accuracy and only enabling when needed. It'll be an ongoing experiment to maximize the life but to me that's part of the fun!
I've heard good things about 22.21.11 but I'm disappointed that I'll have to wipe again. Hopefully now that I'm rooted I can use Titanium Backup properly, last time I had to wipe was when I unlocked my bootloader to root, and Helium (unbeknownst to me) didn't support restoring from copy/paste (copied Helium backups to my computer then back onto the device, but wouldn't recognize them for restore).
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Hopefully now that I'm rooted I can use Titanium Backup properly, last time I had to wipe was when I unlocked my bootloader to root, and Helium (unbeknownst to me) didn't support restoring from copy/paste (copied Helium backups to my computer then back onto the device, but wouldn't recognize them for restore).
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FYI, in case Titanium doesn't work for you when/if you upgrade, I was able to backup my apps using Helium and then use adb restore to restore the data after I'd installed them again on the phone. Here's the guide in case it's helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-how-to-restore-app-data-to-moto-x-t2604423
Downside is having to restore each app individually, but I never even had to root the phone so it was pretty simple.
Hey at least u have root. Us VZW users are dying for some root in our lives.
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FYI, in case Titanium doesn't work for you when/if you upgrade, I was able to backup my apps using Helium and then use adb restore to restore the data after I'd installed them again on the phone. Here's the guide in case it's helpful:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/guide-how-to-restore-app-data-to-moto-x-t2604423
Downside is having to restore each app individually, but I never even had to root the phone so it was pretty simple.
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Does Helium not work to restore the app data on Lollipop?
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Does Helium not work to restore the app data on Lollipop?
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In my case, I was downgrading from 5.0 to 4.4.4 since the build I was on was missing incoming calls. As far as I've heard, restoring to Moto devices is not supported at all by Helium, but it may be worth a try on Lollipop.
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In my case, I was downgrading from 5.0 to 4.4.4 since the build I was on was missing incoming calls. As far as I've heard, restoring to Moto devices is not supported at all by Helium, but it may be worth a try on Lollipop.
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From what I read it's only older devices. This thread, for example, says you just need the right drivers for the 2013 Moto X.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/moto-x-2013/333316-moto-x-helium-backup.html
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From what I read it's only older devices. This thread, for example, says you just need the right drivers for the 2013 Moto X.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/moto-x-2013/333316-moto-x-helium-backup.html
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Could be. I can confirm that Helium did not recognize any backups for me on KitKat and it looks like the user above had the same issue. I haven't yet tested on Lollipop.
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Could be. I can confirm that Helium did not recognize any backups for me on KitKat and it looks like the user above had the same issue. I haven't yet tested on Lollipop.
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From what I heard the way I stored the backups was unsupported. I just copied them off my device and pasted them back later instead of storing on one of the cloud options or something. Maybe if I had it would be a different story. Now that I have root and Titanium I don't think I'm going to try again with Helium, though.
Updating on my trial today with Location reporting off: somehow, battery life ended up worse (need a large sample, I suppose). I'm on track for 2.5 hours screen on and 18 total hours on. Android OS had high reporting, just above Google Play Services.
Anyone else have experience tinkering with these settings? I may give it another day or two before turning off Location History completely.
Im on a pure edition X, newest update, and my battery life is ridiculous. Location on battery saving, NFC off, everything else on. Screen on adaptuve brightness. Heres the thread i started about it..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/22-21-11-pure-edition-insane-battery-t2960474
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Im on a pure edition X, newest update, and my battery life is ridiculous. Location on battery saving, NFC off, everything else on. Screen on adaptuve brightness. Heres the thread i started about it..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/22-21-11-pure-edition-insane-battery-t2960474
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Looks like I'll have to get the -11 release and see how it goes. What were you getting on kitkat or 22.21.6?
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Im on a pure edition X, newest update, and my battery life is ridiculous. Location on battery saving, NFC off, everything else on. Screen on adaptuve brightness. Heres the thread i started about it..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/general/22-21-11-pure-edition-insane-battery-t2960474
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That's just unfathomable to me. I saw your post before I made this one. It's not as if I need 7 hours screen on time, but if it's possible then I sure as hell want it. I have brightness fixed just above the lowest, NFC off, location on battery saving, Location reporting off... just huge drain from Google Play Services and Android OS. I bet if I used the phone straight after unplugging I could reach 5 hours screen on, but it's the general/standby drain that's bothering me. I don't know what specifically would contribute to drain by Google Play Services aside from location reporting.
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That's just unfathomable to me. I saw your post before I made this one. It's not as if I need 7 hours screen on time, but if it's possible then I sure as hell want it. I have brightness fixed just above the lowest, NFC off, location on battery saving, Location reporting off... just huge drain from Google Play Services and Android OS. I bet if I used the phone straight after unplugging I could reach 5 hours screen on, but it's the general/standby drain that's bothering me. I don't know what specifically would contribute to drain by Google Play Services aside from location reporting.
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What version of google play services are you on, and how are your location settings?
I'd honestly never need 7 hours either. I really just wanted to push it and see. Yesterday I plugged in with 38% left, was off the charger for 14 hours and had 4:15 SOT. And that's normal/slightly above normal usage for me. Its just nice to know I won't have to worry if I need to use it more.
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What version of google play services are you on, and how are your location settings?
I'd honestly never need 7 hours either. I really just wanted to push it and see. Yesterday I plugged in with 38% left, was off the charger for 14 hours and had 4:15 SOT. And that's normal/slightly above normal usage for me. Its just nice to know I won't have to worry if I need to use it more.
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The latest--6.5.87 I think. I'm on battery saving as well. Dialer, Play Services, Google Search, Moto, and Motorola Modem service all report low battery usage. I turned Location Reporting off two days ago and somehow battery life got worse!
Also, I have Facebook and Twitter installed, but neither report high usage. Twitter syncing is also off.
Hmmm only difference is I don't use Facebook or twitter. No social media. But other than that, I use everything except for NFC. Google now. All moto enhancements.
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Hmmm only difference is I don't use Facebook or twitter. No social media. But other than that, I use everything except for NFC. Google now. All moto enhancements.
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Do you have the Wi-Fi scanning always on setting turned on as well?
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Do you have the Wi-Fi scanning always on setting turned on as well?
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Yes, I don't shut it off. No WiFi toggler either.
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Yes, I don't shut it off. No WiFi toggler either.
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Well, I can't think of anything else. Guess you're just a lucky bastard haha. Thanks for the info.
Gunna grab a Moto X as I have a Cyber Monday code. My concern though, is the battery. 2300mAh just seems too little. I own a SGS3, and it barely gets by the day.
To those who own the Moto X 2nd Gen, what are you guys looking at for screen on time and whatnot for an entire day? I saw the post about the guy getting 7 hours screen on, but that's without social media. I tend to be chatting continuously on WhatsApp and using Facebook quite a bit as well...
Anyone with a rooted Moto X Pure running Wakelock Detector yet? I managed to tweak my HTC M8 via Tasker and Xposed down to about 7-10% awake time and am just curious how much wake time the Moto Assist awareness modules cause. On the surface we're all concerned about the SoT of the 3000 mAh battery with the 1440p LCD, but what really gets under my skin is when an Android device drops 20-30% overnight or sitting on an office desk while not plugged in.
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Anyone with a rooted Moto X Pure running Wakelock Detector yet? I managed to tweak my HTC M8 via Tasker and Xposed down to about 7-10% awake time and am just curious how much wake time the Moto Assist awareness modules cause. On the surface we're all concerned about the SoT of the 3000 mAh battery with the 1440p LCD, but what really gets under my skin is when an Android device drops 20-30% overnight or sitting on an office desk while not plugged in.
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I've also got an M8, and it also drops 15% or more overnight. I'd be interested to hear some details about the Pure also.
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Anyone with a rooted Moto X Pure running Wakelock Detector yet? I managed to tweak my HTC M8 via Tasker and Xposed down to about 7-10% awake time and am just curious how much wake time the Moto Assist awareness modules cause. On the surface we're all concerned about the SoT of the 3000 mAh battery with the 1440p LCD, but what really gets under my skin is when an Android device drops 20-30% overnight or sitting on an office desk while not plugged in.
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I've also got an M8, and it also drops 15% or more overnight. I'd be interested to hear some details about the Pure also.
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No one with the moto X has reported they have officially rooted. Also since this is a question shouldn't it be posted in the Q and A section?
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I've also got an M8, and it also drops 15% or more overnight. I'd be interested to hear some details about the Pure also.
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To clarify, this is just a pet peeve of mine, not my current situation. On screen off, Tasker a) disables location services b) sets location mode to off c) sets wifi scanning to disabled. Idle drain is very low when the phone is unable to acquire it's own position constantly, maybe 3-4% overnight.
As far as root is concerned, shouldn't it be as simple as unlocking the bootloader, replacing it with TWRP, and installing the SuperSU zip via TWRP? Or is a new SuperSU needed for a new phone model?
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To clarify, this is just a pet peeve of mine, not my current situation. On screen off, Tasker a) disables location services b) sets location mode to off c) sets wifi scanning to disabled. Idle drain is very low when the phone is unable to acquire it's own position constantly, maybe 3-4% overnight.
As far as root is concerned, shouldn't it be as simple as unlocking the bootloader, replacing it with TWRP, and installing the SuperSU zip via TWRP? Or is a new SuperSU needed for a new phone model?
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Yeah it is that simple, however someone who knows how to migrate TWRP will need to receive their phone and start building the TWRP using the system structure for our device.
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Yeah it is that simple, however someone who knows how to migrate TWRP will need to receive their phone and start building the TWRP using the system structure for our device.
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Ah so it is not a new SuperSU that is needed but a new TWRP, thanks!
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Ah so it is not a new SuperSU that is needed but a new TWRP, thanks!
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It's the easiest way. With our bootloader being unlocked, there is no work around to install a custom recovery just a few adb commands to flash it. So once a custom recovery is built for us rooting is as simple as flashing SuperSU in recovery...that's it!!
Actually asked about how to turn this off. Hopefully a custom ROM becomes available to disable these features and make it truly just pure android.
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Also does anyone who has this, did yours get really hot for the first few hours. I'm afraid to unlock bootloader until I know I don't need to exchange it.
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I've honestly never bought a brand new smart phone. I've always waited for root to be confirmed first, so I wasn't aware TWRP needed to be built per device.
Half the fun of owning one in my opinion is tweaking it with root and xposed.
Ironically the phone that makes it the easiest to access root may need the least tweaking to optimize it's performance.
demi9od said:
I've honestly never bought a brand new smart phone. I've always waited for root to be confirmed first, so I wasn't aware TWRP needed to be built per device.
Half the fun of owning one in my opinion is tweaking it with root and xposed.
Ironically the phone that makes it the easiest to access root may need the least tweaking to optimize it's performance.
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Porting TWRP is quite easy. Someone will port a phone with 808 or Nexus 6 TWRP with ease within a week.
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Edit: nothing to see here, only 6:17 hours, with only 2% remaining. For some reason the screen jumped on draining battery i guess.
Hello there! I was just on my way to home and i have some minutes to write about what is being a VERY nice surprise: just 4 hours on SOT and 48% battery yet.
My personal recipe, just begun on a lot of testing custom roms that will only deliver at most like 4 hours on sot, and maybe less.
So, here's my test:
Stock MM rom - decrypted
Pico gapps
Normal apps like Facebook, ig, lnkdn, wsap, here maps and others.
I know, and i'm aware about the security issues, and i was thinking on a replacement phone, yhe hell that i'm going to let down my beloved MOTO N6; i whish that this phone would have a 4000mah battery.
Best phone ever.
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I can't upload pics, but i will upload as soon as possible on a desktop, and coz i don't have a tapaccount, but just to make things clear i been testing and using a lot of custom roms, included these ones that claim bug-free oses.
Well, i would whish a clean MIUI launcher and i would be done with this.
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I have been looking at the motorola e4 plus, the battery is 5000mah, would it have the same size to modify the N6?
dgm_mixtoon said:
I have been looking at the motorola e4 plus, the battery is 5000mah, would it have the same size to modify the N6?
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I have a Moto E4 plus that has a broken screen. I'm going to yank the battery out of it and see if it fits in the Nexus 6.
Curious, if you're running stock MM, why flash Pico Gapps?
blaxtar01 said:
Stock MM rom - decrypted
Pico gapps
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Decrypted? GAPPs on stock?
MrBrady said:
Curious, if you're running stock MM, why flash Pico Gapps?
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For debloating purposes, like taking out unwanted apps from google.
mnsiw said:
Decrypted? GAPPs on stock?
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Yeah, flashed through NRT, and then flashed picogapps in recovery.
To clarify things:
the phone has stock android mm mob31t (flashed with NRT for unencrypted data partition)
Lastest recovery teamwin 3.0.3
Picogapps.
Some minor tweaks in settings, like enabled dev, for sppeding animations. Gps on device only.
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Hi,
Got the same SOT with PN 7.1.2, stock kernel
You can upagrade
mesco38 said:
Hi,
Got the same SOT with PN 7.1.2, stock kernel
You can upagrade
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I don't like the ui, so that's why I'm sticking to MM.
Did you make any changes, apart from the stock nougat?
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blaxtar01 said:
I don't like the ui, so that's why I'm sticking to MM.
Did you make any changes, apart from the stock nougat?
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I can only get 3-4 SOT i tryed all roms except MM all nougat roms 3H SOT ALL i will test MM.
blaxtar01 said:
I don't like the ui, so that's why I'm sticking to MM.
Did you make any changes, apart from the stock nougat?
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Not that much, he's rooted and encryption disabled.
I turned off every feature I don't use. I activate a feature, only when I need it, just as long as I need it.
(BT always off, Wifi when needed, data always on, NFC always disabled, Ambiant display disabled, greenified everything, set a true black theme with black wallpaper, no gesture, LED activated)
You can earn maybe one or two SOT hours more, but you have to lower the resolution/density. (That increase perfomances too)
Edit: You can reach 10h SOT without lowering screen density... (while calling/texting/browsing/networking/youtubing)
mesco38 said:
Hi,
Got the same SOT with PN 7.1.2, stock kernel
You can upagrade
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Hhmm...I have already used pn 7.1.2 and never noticed the change in battery, now I am in paranoid lastest versión with franco Kernel, My battery arrives almost 4: 40min,I never understood why PN is the most recommended ..
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Hhmm...I have already used pn 7.1.2 and never noticed the change in battery, now I am in paranoid lastest versión with franco Kernel, My battery arrives almost 4: 40min,I never understood why PN is the most recommended ..
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Did not try Paranoid, but I read that it isn't stable at that time.
PN is stable, have nice features and is well updated. Good perfs and battery life.
In my case, I don't want to switch to another because PN works fine. And I learned to keep working things instead of switching and take the risk that it won't work anymore..
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Not that much, he's rooted and encryption disabled.
I turned off every feature I don't use. I activate a feature, only when I need it, just as long as I need it.
(BT always off, Wifi when needed, data always on, NFC always disabled, Ambiant display disabled, greenified everything, set a true black theme with black wallpaper, no gesture, LED activated)
You can earn maybe one or two SOT hours more, but you have to lower the resolution/density. (That increase perfomances too)
Edit: You can reach 10h SOT without lowering screen density... (while calling/texting/browsing/networking/youtubing)
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Good to know, how i can apply a dark teme? I'm on stock kernel, in some moment i did test the lowerin resolution too but i was unable to check any difference, i will check that again.
I did test the pure nexus too, and never reached the 5 hours on SOT, plus a little buggy for that time, (two months ago)
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blaxtar01 said:
Good to know, how i can apply a dark teme? I'm on stock kernel, in some moment i did test the lowerin resolution too but i was unable to check any difference, i will check that again.
I did test the pure nexus too, and never reached the 5 hours on SOT, plus a little buggy for that time, (two months ago)
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If I am right, layers on MM can be changed with RRO Layers, which is now deprecated.
You'll have to download the RRO LAyer manager and then somme layers of your choice.
If you wanna lower screen density, the better choice is 720p because of the homothetic proportions. (otherwise, some icons may be bugged)
I forgot, I try to avoid heavy apps. I did not install facebook and created a shortcut to fbchrome's page. Same thing with Tweeter.
GPS also disabled if not needed
Guapo613 said:
I have a Moto E4 plus that has a broken screen. I'm going to yank the battery out of it and see if it fits in the Nexus 6.
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Please let us know. I'm installing a droid turbo battery (3900mah) in my Nexus 6 soon. The zerolemon note 4 I had broke that phone isn't any where near as smooth as the Nexus but I still miss the insane battery life. I'm willing to buy an e4 plus if the battery connects. The Nexus 6 was my girlfriend's old phone she upgraded to the s8 plus.
dgm_mixtoon said:
I have been looking at the motorola e4 plus, the battery is 5000mah, would it have the same size to modify the N6?
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JWnSC said:
Please let us know. I'm installing a droid turbo battery (3900mah) in my Nexus 6 soon. The zerolemon note 4 I had broke that phone isn't any where near as smooth as the Nexus but I still miss the insane battery life. I'm willing to buy an e4 plus if the battery connects. The Nexus 6 was my girlfriend's old phone she upgraded to the s8 plus.
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I'll see if it fits this weekend. I'm currently using a Moto Z Play and the battery life is off the charts.
I have about 4-5 Nexus 6's that I can tinker with and about 2-3 Droid Turbo's that have good batteries also
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Please let us know. I'm installing a droid turbo battery (3900mah) in my Nexus 6 soon. The zerolemon note 4 I had broke that phone isn't any where near as smooth as the Nexus but I still miss the insane battery life. I'm willing to buy an e4 plus if the battery connects. The Nexus 6 was my girlfriend's old phone she upgraded to the s8 plus.
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Hello there, did you check if the droid turbo battery fits? Would be nice
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blaxtar01 said:
Hello there, did you check if the droid turbo battery fits? Would be nice
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It will fit with some modifications. Check this thread https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/help/battery-mod-t3536162 . Ordered a new Nexus 6 mid housing on Amazon for 10$ just in case I mess mine up. I'll post some pics this weekend. My battery life now is terrible.. Figured if I need to replace the battery anyways might as well upgrade it.
So I did the Droid turbo battery swap. So far so good battery life seems way better than the stock dying battery. I did have to modify the frame some to make the battery and back cover fit.Wireless charging and everything works.
The phone starting to feel laggy after a year and a half of use without factory reset. Today I am on 6.0.1 stock and rooted.
Wanted to know if it worth updating it to 7 or even Oreo ? Possibility of brick ?
I just need it to work smoothly and to be rooted.
Thank you for helping.
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I would say update it to Nougat for sure. Why have you waited so long to update? Is it because of Xposed?
Before with Nexus 5 I updated to every new version. With 6p i read about brick in Nougat and decided to stay away. My phone sits on 6.0.1 for more than a year and now need to be restarted at least once a 24 hours because it is very laggy especially after updating few apps within Google play.
I decided to backup everything and at least do a factory reset. This is also an opportunity to upgrade so I came here to ask if it worth.
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I think nougat is good. I tried update to Oreo stock no root. And now my freaking phone shut down at like 15% I think. Might just go back to nougat.....
kinggame992000 said:
I think nougat is good. I tried update to Oreo stock no root. And now my freaking phone shut down at like 15% I think. Might just go back to nougat.....
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Your battery is probably toast, because it is *not* the OS. Oreo is rock solid with great battery life. My family has 3 with the same result. Always on the latest security update. Why else would you buy a Nexus? Haha!
@Lior84- Just get the latest full Oreo image from Google and follow the instructions. You'll be glad you did. :good:
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Your battery is probably toast, because it is *not* the OS. Oreo is rock solid with great battery life. My family has 3 with the same result. Always on the latest security update. Why else would you buy a Nexus? Haha!
@Lior84- Just get the latest full Oreo image from Google and follow the instructions. You'll be glad you did. :good:
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Any app I can use to check to see if my battery toast?
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Any app I can use to check to see if my battery toast?
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Yes. Accubattery. Read the docs.... after a few full charges from empty it will give you the estimated remaining capacity in mAh compared with a new battery (3,450 mAh) . Check the health tab. :good:
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Check the link here for how to do a manual calibration. Easy. Just make sure you leave it on the charger until the APP tells you your phone is fully charged. Sometimes the phone will continue to charge for 45 mins to an hour after the phone says it is full.
Ok, and if the battery toasted, is it really difficult to replace the battery?
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