Hey guys,
Really need a favor. For those who own a Blackberry KEYone Black Edition (Indian variant), can you check and see if it uses an LPDDR4 RAM and UFS based storage. Blackberry doesn't seem to reveal that part
You can check that info using the DevCheck application, under the hardware section, or a similar app that can tell the real hardware info. Reason m asking is because the original, silver KEYone uses the slower LPDDR3 and eMMc storage.
I want to urgently know if its just a space increase or that Blackberry has also changed the type of memory...no one seems to even talk about it or mention it. It's really urgent guys and won't take more than few minutes to check that.
Nah, i don't think so. Since 625 doesn't support LPDDR4 and UFS 2.0, even if it supports - the higher RAM frequency won't help much, small margin will be advantaged for the GPU.
The 625 isn't that a new SoC at all since it's been released in 2016, using older DSP resulting in LTE Cat 7 300Mbps at max too, shame :'(. I wonder if the KeyOne is LTE Cat 9 450Mbps, but i don't reckon so.
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Hello,
i want a amoled screen for my next phone, with complete options, infrared, nfc, wirless charging (it optional but exist), 2 Gb og ram, removable battery, sd card slot, and for its accesoiry.. etc
i think that s4 answer to my needs.
But, i hesitate because of stocks updates, its 2013 models, and become old!
My question is if s4 is still worth this position on the 2015, and if there is equivalent new phone (full option) to him, for 300 euro budget
Thank for your answers and sorry for english
OTA_ said:
Hello,
i want a amoled screen for my next phone, with complete options, infrared, nfc, wirless charging (it optional but exist), 2 Gb og ram, removable battery, sd card slot, and for its accesoiry.. etc
i think that s4 answer to my needs.
But, i hesitate because of stocks updates, its 2013 models, and become old!
My question is if s4 is still worth this position on the 2015, and if there is equivalent new phone (full option) to him, for 300 euro budget
Thank for your answers and sorry for english
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GT-I9515 (GALAXY S4 VE) in my opinion :highfive:.
Well, the S4 GT-I9506 seems to have hardware that can somewhat match the latest models
S4 GT-I9506 specs:
Chipset: Qualcomm MSM8974 Snapdragon 800
CPU : Quad-core 2.3 GHz Krait 400
GPU : Adreno 330
Internal 16/32 GB, 2 GB RAM
And in comparison, the S5 specs:
Chipset Qualcomm MSM8974AC Snapdragon 801
CPU Quad-core 2.5 GHz Krait 400
GPU Adreno 330
Internal 16/32 GB, 2 GB RAM
As you can see, there is not a huge difference. The newer chipset model and 200Hz more processing power. But I don't think those 200Hz will make any big impact on performance. If it's going to be any performance differences then it's because of the newer chipset and maybe ram speeds.
Though the normal S4 GT-I9505 is still a good competitor today. Many people still use it as you can probably see by the activity on this forum.
It can still keep up with today's requirements. And it will for another 1-2 years at least.
If developers made apps only for the high-end smartphones then only those who can afford those kind of phones can use the app. And that's just not profitable for them, right?
http://phandroid.com/2015/05/13/lg-g-pad-x-verizon/
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http://phandroid.com/2015/05/13/lg-g-pad-x-verizon/
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I saw this. Expected to release on 28th May from Verizon but it's not official. Just some leaks and rumors. Nothing about the hardware is confirmed either.
They are also expecting to release Z4 so it seems a big shot. We'd wait and see what happens. I'd take it with a lot of pinch and salt though but we do understand that Verizon be working to release a new tablet as current one is about a year and half old.
What I'm about to say doesn't mean a thing since this isn't confirmed but it's interesting to note that the G Pad in the picture definitely is not the same as our "old" one. You can notice a difference in the spacing between the front camera and the Verizon logo.
As I said, doesn't mean a thing.
Sent from my LG-VK810
I hope the next model goes top end this time, with a decent amount of RAM, ROM and processor. I expect at least 2GB or RAM (same as current model), but I really want 32GB internal storage. I hope the processor will be a Snapdragon 808 or 810, and not a 615. The only fault I have with the current model was the choice to use a SD600 while the G2 (and Samsung 8.4 inch tablet) was getting a SD800 at the same time.
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I hope the next model goes top end this time, with a decent amount of RAM, ROM and processor. I expect at least 2GB or RAM (same as current model), but I really want 32GB internal storage. I hope the processor will be a Snapdragon 808 or 810, and not a 615. The only fault I have with the current model was the choice to use a SD600 while the G2 (and Samsung 8.4 inch tablet) was getting a SD800 at the same time.
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Absolutely. 32 GB minimum for any Android device I use from now on. 16 GB just isn't hardly enough to do much on.
The 16 GB of the VK810 and the 1.5 GHz SD604 instead of the 1.7 GHz of the other G Pad 8.3's SD604 are my main pet peeves.
For me, 2GB RAM, SD800 and keeping the SD card is a bare minimum.
What I really want to see however, is a screen quality that is at least as good as the Nexus 7 2013 in terms of black levels, viewing angles and contrast. The V500 looks OK until you put it next to a Nexus 7 2013. :crying:
An SD800 would get the job done, but that chip is 2 years old now, so I'm hoping for more.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Octa...-the-carriers-LG-G4-arrives-on-June-4_id69736
Disappointing! Reports are indicating an "octa-core 1.5 GHz processor" and suggesting a Snapdragon 615; but if it's a SD615, why is it not running at 1.7GHz? I wonder if it is a MT6753 at 1.5 GHz. And it it's predicted to have only 16GB storage. Either way, I'm disappointed.
I've been thinking about other options, and I think the Nvidia Shield is the only tablet released in the past year that is a step forward.
I recently purchased a Zenfone 2 Laser from Amazon. I know there are two base models, a 2Gb of RAM with a Snapdragon 410, and a 3gb of RAM Snapdragon 615 Chipset phone. The 3GB version comes in a 16GB and 32GB model. From what the details on Amazon listed I have the 3GB RAM, 16gb storage version of the 615. Doing a quick check through the app Droid Info (I know there are better ones, just first that popped up), I noticed that it lists the chipset as the MSM 8939/Snapdragon 615, but it has a clock of 1.5ghz, and it also lists the board as a msm8916, which is a Snapdragon 410.
So which is it? The phone is listed as having 8 cores as well. So I'm inclined to think it is the 615 not the 410.
Thoughts?
Mine mentions this as well and it was a little confusing but there are 8 cores so I believe Asus may have used the same boards with different processors attached.
As stated in the website linked below, it's mentioned that lpddr4 ram is used.
http://consumer.huawei.com/en/mobile-phones/mate9/html/performance.htm
To check what ram is used, just type in terminal cat proc/ddr_rod
What's the type of ram used in your device?
DDR3
DDR3
MHA-L29C636 here.
false advertising?...
Ddr3
mha-l29c185
This command is not 100% accurate. "lpddr3" is the default return value if no information was found.
Source: http://overseas.weico.cc/share/1011152.html?weibo_id=4097815745656061 (This post is in Chinese but it has a screenshot of the C code that explains)
It's lpddr4.
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It's lpddr4.
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does AIDA actually scan the system or returns values it looks up in a database?
but it makes sense that it returns ddr3 if nothing is found.
yfnew said:
This command is not 100% accurate. "lpddr3" is the default return value if no information was found.
Source: http://overseas.weico.cc/share/1011152.html?weibo_id=4097815745656061 (This post is in Chinese but it has a screenshot of the C code that explains)
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It makes sense. Just curious about it as there's evidence that emmc5. 1 is used on p10. And they bothered to make it return lpddr4 for honor 8.
https://goo.gl/BM0fzZ
The Chinese giant admitted it’s using storage and memory chips of multiple specifications on the recently launched Huawei P10 and Huawei P10 Plus.
Huawei just admitted what Chinese users of the P10 and P10 Plus have been claiming for weeks.
In a statement released in response to an inquiry from Android Authority, the Chinese giant admitted it’s using storage and memory chips of multiple specifications on the recently launched Huawei P10 and Huawei P10 Plus.
While Huawei did not go into specifics, empiric checks show that the two phones can feature any combination of LPDDR3 or LPDDR4 RAM chips, and UFS 2.0, UFS 2.1, or eMMC 5.1 storage.
“Huawei has employed the standard industry practice of sourcing solutions from multiple trusted suppliers to ensure a balance between user experience, quality and sustainable supply,” the company said.
While it’s true that many electronic devices feature a small level of variance when it comes to their components, the differences shouldn’t have a noticeable effect on user experience. One well-known example of component variation is Samsung’s choice of SoCs on its flagship phones, which usually ship with Exynos or Qualcomm chips based on the market. In another recent example, the iPhone 7 Plus comes with modem chips from either Intel or Qualcomm; the latter offer a “significant performance edge” compared to the Intel variant, according to phone testing firm Cellular Insights.
LPDDR3 or LPDDR4 RAM? UFS 2.0, UFS 2.1, or eMMC 5.1? Who knows?
Huawei insists that it does not make any false claims when it comes to the P10. The company says its marketing makes no mention of the specific RAM and flash storage generation. “Among all Huawei P10 marketing collateral, there has been no commitment to the use of only one specific flash memory,” it said.
That might be true, but the performance difference between LPDDR3 and LPDDR4 chips, and UFS 2.0, UFS 2.1, and eMMC 5.1 storage chips respectively, can be significant. Understandably, P10 customers would like to know if they’re getting an older technology.
When it’s convenient, Huawei does advertise the use of LPDDR4 and UFS 2.1 chips. On the Mate 9 product page, for instance, both new standards are presented prominently and contrasted with the older and slower LPDDR3 and eMMC 5.1.
It looks like only some P10 and P10 Plus are “born fast.” No mention of the RAM and storage technology can be found on their specs pages.
Huawei says it’s using chips “randomly,” based on the component shipments it receives from suppliers. “There are no period batches or manual selection for chip batches,” the company said. What this means is that getting a “good” unit is a matter of luck. You could run benchmarks on the phone prior to purchasing it, but that’s simply not feasible in many cases.
Huawei denied any “discrimination or intention to defraud consumers.” “The performance of a single component can’t exactly reflect the overall system performance of a smartphone and these scores are not applicable in actual use scenarios.”
My K1 has upgraded to 7.0. it became slow when i use it. I rooted and optimzed it but it can olny get a lttle better.
I want to know if an android device can expand RAM by changing the RAM chip? And if it can perform much better?
its very difficult and not very cost-effective to hire skilled engineer to replace it . just buy a new tablet
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its very difficult and not very cost-effective to hire skilled engineer to replace it . just buy a new tablet
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so can u tell me will its RAM expand if i change the RAM chip withe higher one?
i saw the RAM of xiaomi tablet2 can be expanded with doing that. so can its CPU.
grayfox23 said:
so can u tell me will its RAM expand if i change the RAM chip withe higher one?
i saw the RAM of xiaomi tablet2 can be expanded with doing that. so can its CPU.
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i dont know cuz its also depend on software compability , but who know ? you can try it
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i dont know cuz its also depend on software compability , but who know ? you can try it
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1st,thank you for replying me. i did a lot of things befroe i buy it, because it is a second hand.and it former owner told me it was upgraded to 7.0 and became slow maybe because it 2GB RAM. so i was thinking if its RAM can be expanded by doing so.
Likely not, you will need a compatible ram chip. Even if the larger chip is compatible, the board or kernel may limit it to just 2gb. 32bit devices cannot use more than 4gb anyways. The best you can do is to just increase the swap.
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1st,thank you for replying me. i did a lot of things befroe i buy it, because it is a second hand.and it former owner told me it was upgraded to 7.0 and became slow maybe because it 2GB RAM. so i was thinking if its RAM can be expanded by doing so.
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I have been having the same thoughts as you. On this device, the ram is actually not built in the soc as most smartphones and tablets, its it separate from it on 4x512mb chips.
I got the tablet recently and the first thing that came across my mind was changing the thermal paste, the factory one is really garbage so I cleaned and replaced it with arctic mx2, under the heatsink of the soc and the ram there is some sort of a graphite thermal pad, which is not very efficient, I replaced it with thermal paste as well. Unfortunately I didn't take any pictures, so idk what are the ram chips exactly, devcheck reports that the device has lpddr3 1066mhz ram but I'm not sure if that is trustworthy.
IMO upgrading the ram to at least 3gb is very possible, now the question is what kind of ram chips we need and where should we look for them.
Tegra K1 is practically the fastest 32-bit soc in existence, so more ram would definitely help it out a lot. I mentioned it in another post but on the latest firmware the ram usage is abnormally high on this device, sitting at about 1gb at idle(no gapps, LOS) while it should be closer to 500mb.