I just recently got the money I've been waiting for to get a new phone. (my moto G4 is going down the toilet when I get one, Thanks Lenovo...) I was wondering If you guys think I should get the One plus 5 or wait for the 5t in Q4? here's my preferences.
battery life: 1
performance: 2
display: 3
design: 4
storage: 5
camera: 6
with 1 being the most important.
I've heard the one plus 5T will most likely have the same processor and battery life so if that's true maybe there's my answer but wondering what you guys thought.
Also I don't really care about storage all to much but is the 8gb ram worth it for 60 bucks? thanks for any input.
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Officially there is no chip better than the 835 at the moment. So a 5T would flop kind of hard. For such a small company they cant afford to do that. Unless they really pump up other features by an insane margin dont expect a new flagship so quickly. But i have proposed the idea that even tho the 3t was a great device, for lack of a better term OnePlus cant be trusted to not usurp their phones for fear of another "T" phone. A 5T could happen but who knows if they will want to one up themselves. The 3t was a massive hit though so who knows? They just might.
I knew right from the start there will be no t variant this time. Oneplus5 is still the best phone after the comming iphone.
For battery and performance I can vouche, although some users like me encounter some software related idle WiFi drain that will hopefully be fixed in OOS 4.6. I'm loving the display too, although it's "only" 1080p, for me it's fully sufficient plus it's lighter on the battery. For the design and camera I don't care much. In terms of storage I think 64GB is sufficient, and 6GB RAM is just perfect. I went for this model. Some users need loads of storage though for movies, songs etc so 128GB makes sense, too.
lol there is no sure thing of a 5T coming. Just because they made a 3T doesn't mean they will make a 5T and to assume that will just make you wait for something that likely won't come. Missing out on the best phone out there right now.
Waiting for the next best thing means you end up waiting forever but at some point you need to bite thre bullet and get something...
Guaranteed that 2 days later a bigger, better item will be available though.
Personally the 128gb was the one I got. Still not enough storage, One+ REALLY need to put in external storage support, and that should hopefully futureproof it a bit.
The only thing that could make the 5T better would be 8gb, 128gb with external storage. Only reason I might upgrade, anything else would be a plus but it would have to be at the same price point or less (like that would happen).
Don't pay more for more RAM.
OnePlus might make a 5T but the current model is hard to beat. If they do make a 5T it won't be much different, if they don't do a 5T then you could have more quality time with your beloved G4 until the OnePlus 6.
Evan Blass has leaked that the new Pixel phones will come sometimes in October and will have the Snapdragon 836. Yes, 836, not 835.
So if OnePlus want to release a 5T, it will have the 836 which is a pretty small upgrade. I mean, it will probably have slightly higher clock speeds and some other minor improvements. With such little changes, I don't think it would be worth for them to release another device.
Hardware-wise, the OnePlus 5 is a beast. Most people just had higher expectations regarding the features. The only thing OnePlus can do to improve the 5 is to add water resistance, perhaps improve the camera, a slightly bigger battery and maybe higher screen resolution. Those are the major gripes people had with this phone.
Unless they improve those areas, a 5T will be a flop.
As to the OP's question - You can get the 5 now and sell it if a 5T does eventually pop up. The 5 shouldn't lose much value in a few months.
A friend even made a profit while selling his 3T.
In the of world of technology one thing I've learned is if you wait then you always wait coz there will be something new around the corner every month ? even if op5t comes it will be just like from 3 to 3t just barely any changes
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Evan Blass has leaked that the new Pixel phones will come sometimes in October and will have the Snapdragon 836. Yes, 836, not 835.
So if OnePlus want to release a 5T, it will have the 836 which is a pretty small upgrade. I mean, it will probably have slightly higher clock speeds and some other minor improvements. With such little changes, I don't think it would be worth for them to release another device.
Hardware-wise, the OnePlus 5 is a beast. Most people just had higher expectations regarding the features. The only thing OnePlus can do to improve the 5 is to add water resistance, perhaps improve the camera, a slightly bigger battery and maybe higher screen resolution. Those are the major gripes people had with this phone.
Unless they improve those areas, a 5T will be a flop.
As to the OP's question - You can get the 5 now and sell it if a 5T does eventually pop up. The 5 shouldn't lose much value in a few months.
A friend even made a profit while selling his 3T.
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Profit selling his 3t is because of the jelly screen hype. I saw it in the Netherlands also. Sold my 3t for 350€ after I received the 5 with early bird offer. After jelly the price of second hand 3t's went up sky high.
Would've loved for OnePlus to had created a 5'7 inch screen for us guys that is coming from Galaxy Notes and who have large hands.
Thanks for all the responses, I went ahead and pulled the trigger on the 128gb slate grey. I figure I'll have the phone for at least 2 years and who knows maybe I'll need the extra space eventually, and the extra ram will be nice as well.
The space is nice but I honestly think all that ram is a gimmick. Phones don't need 8 gigs of ram--that's serious overkill. The OnePlus Camera App is disappointing. A lot of people are using the Google Camera app ported from the Pixel instead of the stock one from OnePlus. I haven't noticed any jelly effect on mine and the phone seems pretty solid so far. You'll probably be happy with your purchase.
8GB RAM helps with multitasking. Watch any OnePlus 5 vs XYZ videos on YouTube and you'll see it pretty much wiped the floor with the competition in terms of multitasking.
So yeah, while it's not necessary, it still is nice not having to refresh an app you opened 10 apps ago.
8GB also makes it a bit futureproof. Next year we'll see more devices with 8GB probably. Apps will use more and more RAM too, so 8GB will come in handy.
According to this website, the OnePlus 5T will be released late 2017 http://androidmarvel.com/2017/08/27/1580/oneplus-5t-specs-rumors/
So it's best to wait for the 5T and make do for now, you wouldn't want to spend your money on a phone that will get an "enhanced" version few months later. That's just my opinion!
IP68 certification and the Snapdragon 836 are barely a big improvement. The Chipset upgrade itself won't be anything spectacular, maybe just slightly increased clock speeds.
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Hi everyone,
I just wanted to get an idea of what you all though about the essential phone vs the oneplus 5. Why you bought/or thinking of buying one over the other...
LOL, don't waste your time... OnePlus 5!
I have a OnePlus 5 (8/128) and i don't want this ugly Essential Phone
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LOL, don't waste your time... OnePlus 5!
I have a OnePlus 5 (8/128) and i don't want this ugly Essential Phone
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The essential is beautiful
If there is a decent amount of development for it, I'll most likely consider getting one
For me, oneplus 5 is the most essential phone so far!
The biggest selling point for me would be custom software development. OnePlus was always well supported. OnePlus 5 had working recoveries and root within a week from its launch.
Essential is pretty new to the game, so let's see what it can do.
Being created by Andy Rubin I assume it should be pretty developer-friendly.
What really makes the Essential phone better than the OnePlus 5? I really don't see anything outside of a bezel-less screen
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Essential has no headphone jack. A pointless device that just blindly follows the latest trends. And the kernel sources aren't released for it yet, that should give you an idea how dev friendly it is.
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That's your opinion really. In a few years OnePlus will make a move to Meizu style, so watch your words. OnePlus 5 and older OnePlus devices are open for vulnerablities.
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Any sources to vulnerablities present in 1+ phones?
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Headphone jack will soon be removed on other phones after 2018 or 2019
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Well I'll just be removed from the list of their potential customers.
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Do your research and then you will find out.
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No way. You are the one who brought it up so it's up to you to defend your position. Both the OnePlus 5 and Essential run Android, and there's nothing about one device being cheaper that means it's more open to vulnerabilities.
If you're referring to the ability for App Locker to be bypassed, that's going to be resolved with a system update, and any device could have had a similar flaw
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Removing the headphone jack is kinda stupid in my opinion. Other than saving space and making it possible for the phone to be even thinner, there's no real benefit to removing it.
What's next to be removed? The charging port and force us to use wireless charging? If the phone has to sit on a stupid pad, it's not truly wireless. Unless I can walk around the house with it, while it's charging, it's not truly "wireless". Wireless means no wires, but it also implies mobility/freedom.
That has nothing to do with the OnePlus being a "cheaper" device. It's part of the compromises made for a very developer-friendly phone. I'm sure if the Essential's bootloader is easily unlocked, people will find some vulnerabilities with it as well.
Samsung and BlackBerry have focused on security for their phones, which often means locked bootloaders and limited access to modding abilities (not that it isn't possible, but once you do, you completely break their security layer (Samsung Knox, for instance).
There is absolutely nothing to suggest Essential has a security barrier like Knox, so your point is pretty much meaningless in a thread comparing OnePlus to Essential.
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I'm on the fence between the OnePlus 5 and the Essential phone, myself.
After owning a long line of Nexus devices, a OnePlus 3, then a Google Pixel XL, I made the switch to the Galaxy S8. Overall, the S8 has actually been great. But it does come with its annoyances, namely Samsung CONSTANTLY trying to push their proprietary apps through random weekly notifications and the Bixby interface. I've disabled a lot of the Samsung bloatware apps but the phone still lags/hangs more often than my OnePlus 3 or Pixel XL ever did, which is just sad. So I'm ready to get back into the more "pure Android" experience.
I was initially planning on holding out until the Pixel 2/Pixel XL 2 were announced but reputable rumors are consistently showing that the regular pixel will just have a 5" screen with huge bezels again and the XL 2 will be a monster of a phone with a 6" screen that matches the size of the S8+ but with even larger bezels. It will be pushing 6.4" tall, which is simply too big for me. So I've decided to look at other options. The reviews of the OnePlus 5 have been excellent and I was extremely close to pulling the trigger on one until news of the Essential phone really started to break recently.
These days I don't really root/mod my phones so that isn't much of a concern. And after experiencing the bezel-less life of the S8, it would be tough for me to go back to something with 2015/2016 size bezels. This is why the Essential phone really has my attention, at the moment. Plus the design of the Essential phone is very original and I love just about everything about it. However, I will admit that at least OnePlus makes good use of the large bottom bezel with the capacitive keys and finger print scanner. Not to mention that it costs over $150 less than the Essential Phone.
Personally, I'm having a really tough time deciding between the two. At least I've ruled out all other options, at this point.
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I'm on the fence between the OnePlus 5 and the Essential phone, myself.
After owning a long line of Nexus devices, a OnePlus 3, then a Google Pixel XL, I made the switch to the Galaxy S8. Overall, the S8 has actually been great. But it does come with its annoyances, namely Samsung CONSTANTLY trying to push their proprietary apps through random weekly notifications and the Bixby interface. I've disabled a lot of the Samsung bloatware apps but the phone still lags/hangs more often than my OnePlus 3 or Pixel XL ever did, which is just sad. So I'm ready to get back into the more "pure Android" experience.
I was initially planning on holding out until the Pixel 2/Pixel XL 2 were announced but reputable rumors are consistently showing that the regular pixel will just have a 5" screen with huge bezels again and the XL 2 will be a monster of a phone with a 6" screen that matches the size of the S8+ but with even larger bezels. It will be pushing 6.4" tall, which is simply to big for me. So I've decided to look at other options. The reviews of the OnePlus 5 have been excellent and I was extremely close to pulling the trigger on one until news of the Essential phone really started to break recently.
These days I don't really root/mod my phones so that isn't much of a concern. And after experiencing the bezel-less life of the S8, it would be tough for me to go back to something with 2015/2016 size bezels. This is why the Essential phone really has my attention, at the moment. However, I will admit that at least OnePlus makes good use of the large bottom bezel with the capacitive keys and finger print scanner. Not to mention that it costs over $150 less than the Essential Phone.
Personally, I'm having a really tough time deciding between the two. At east I've ruled out all other options, at this point.
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The 8ngig of ram is nice. I have oneplus 5 8 gig ram version. I am looking g at the essential phone BC it looks so great.
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The 8ngig of ram is nice. I have oneplus 5 8 gig ram version. I am looking g at the essential phone BC it looks so great.
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While I'm not usually one to harp solely on specs, the Essential phone coming out with just 4GB of RAM is a head scratcher. Apps and OS features are taking up more and more resources these days and we are hitting a point where 4GB RAM just isn't cutting it anymore. Which is why I'm also surprised that the 2nd generation of Pixel phones are rumored to only have 4GB of RAM, as well.
I should say that the use of an LCD display on the Essential Phone is a bit baffling, also. It's 2017, OLED screens are the new standard. I'd understand if they stuck with LCD to cut costs and make the phone cheaper. But it still starts at $700, so that logic doesn't seem to hold. And to top off the negatives on the Essential Phone, all the current video reviews are very "meh" about the camera performance. All of this has me realizing that I'd only be getting the Essential Phone for the bezel-less design. Hm....
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While I'm not usually one to harp solely on specs, the Essential phone coming out with just 4GB of RAM is a head scratcher. Apps and OS features are taking up more and more resources these days and we are hitting a point where 4GB RAM just isn't cutting it anymore. Which is why I'm also surprised that the 2nd generation of Pixel phones are rumored to only have 4GB of RAM, as well.
I should say that the use of an LCD display on the Essential Phone is a bit baffling, also. It's 2017, OLED screens are the new standard. I'd understand if they stuck with LCD to cut costs and make the phone cheaper. But it still starts at $700, so that logic doesn't seem to hold. And to top off the negatives on the Essential Phone, all the current video reviews are very "meh" about the camera performance. All of this has me realizing that I'd only be getting the Essential Phone for the bezel-less design. Hm....
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I would honestly wait until the Essential is released for general public. Those "reviews" are more like previews at the moment. So, if you're not in a hurry, wait a lil bit longer.
I heard the new Nokia 8 also runs stock android and it starts at 600€ so it may also be an option.
I am honestly satisfied with the OnePlus 5. But this is very subjective since I'm coming from a Galaxy S4 and the OnePlus 5 is a huge update.
Difference is $460 phone vs $700 phone. End of discussion.
Too many gimmicks on that device. Its a 300 dollar phone at a 900 dollar price tag. I dont see the point in accepting this newcomer. Gotta figure Rubin "left" for a reason. I doubt this thing will catch on. If Huawei cant in the us i doubt this thing can worldwide
If Essential provide sources and keep it quick it could be the phone to go for regardless of the price, After owning a OP3 for a year the software and sources have been hit and miss.. closest we'll get to a Nexus atm but Essential could be the new nexus since they provide the same support as Google on the software side, OP however it could be abandoned any time.. Let's hope Essential hit it right
I am happy with the OP5, but let's be honest the Pixel kinda blows it out of the water in some pretty key areas. (and i know the pixel 2 is more expensive, but for the pixel 2 it's only $100 or so more)...
Photos/videos
Unlimited Full size photos/videos Cloud Storage for FREE
Waterproof/Dustproof
3 years promised support for updates
Google Customer Service
1st Phone to receive updates (no waiting for months/months/etc....)
So what about you guys/gals, any thoughts to purchasing one and reselling the OP5?
Why or why not?
I had the Pixel XL 2 pre ordered with a ship date of next week but canceled.
I am still paying off the Oneplus 5 and won't get nearly what I paid for it. Look at eBay its saturated with this phone.
In raw specs it would be a downgrade in ram even though its overkill. Going from 8gb to 4gb
The Oneplus 5 camera and display are not as good as the Pixel 2, but not terrible either.
-Has a headphone jack
- The battery life is superb and the dash charging is bonus
- Tons of development for this phone
- Oneplus is pretty decent with their updates compared to other OEMS
I use my OnePlus 5 (6GB RAM) as my daily driver for two weeks now. Until now I mostly used Sony Smartphones (Xperia Z, Z2, Z5) and I made the change because of the increase of price for the new Sony phones. I am very happy with it and love the big development community! I've seen the Google live stream a few days ago when the Pixel2 was presented and these are the following advantages and disadvantages in my opinion:
+ Pixel 2
IP67 certified (waterproof)
probably better for smaller hands
true stereo speakers
camera (quality and OIS+EIS for video)
- Pixel 2
5 inch is quite small nowadays (for me 5,2 inch is perfect)
no headphone jack (headphone through usb c)
fingerprint scanner on back (not necassery for a 5 inch phone)
smaller battery
pricey
+ OnePlus 5
Dash Charge (probably the best feature)
headphone jack
price (you can save a lot!)
ram (probably a thing in the future)
battery life (much better than my old Xperia Z5)
design (in my opinion the pixel 2 is kinda ugly)
fingerprint sensor (very quick and I like the position)
I have ordered one. A little worried about the screen issues with the V30 so it'll be interesting to see what the reviewers say regarding the screen.
If it's not an issue I'll probably keep the OP5 and get a Pixel 2 XL as well.
Used to own a 6P and it's nice to always get the latest updates and the camera seems incredibly impressive.
No, I won't, besides the unlimited photos is only for two years. In my opinion, Google shot themselves in the foot, bringing up the price, might as well get a iPhone X. I mean look at those bezels. Oneplus is half the price, I can accept the bezels. Just my two cents.
Too pricey for me. I feel like once the 5T/6 is released next year (maybe even this year), I'll just upgrade to that, as it'll probably still be cheaper than the Pixel and probably contain next gen hardware.
I sold my OP5 for what I paid on Swappa. People are snatching them up for fear of stock never coming back officially.
I have ordered the Pixel 2 XL, mainly for the camera experience. Constant software updates and support are a bonus. I paid using Google Store Financing, which I'm not too worried about since Pixel phones retain value well.
I think most people find the Pixel 2 appealing because of it's camera quality and pure stock Android experience (constant updates, newest versions, etc.). Other than that, the design also matters. I wouldn't call either the 2 or the 2 XL a good looking phone by any stretch. The 2's screen to body ratio is underwhelming and, really, it looks like something out of 2014. Now that's not to say the OP5 is anything different, but the curved corners and the smaller chins make it look pretty good overall. Spec-wise, the OP5 is way superior with that overloaded 6 and 8GB RAM. Both have the SD835 so no difference on that front. The OP5 also has a near-stock experience, and that by itself is good enough for me. Overall as well as for the value, the OP5 is better, and I'd choose it over the Pixel 2 any day.
First things first, the lack of a proper headphone jack is a no-no for me. Type-C headphones are nowhere to find (to actually buy some) and I don't want to think all the time are my BT headphones charged up.
Second, since the OP5 came out, it receives at least one (sometimes even more) updates per month. Its not as a Pixel but still enough is going on.
Third, you lose dash charging which is superb compared to other tech, and the Pixel isn't as developer friendly as the Nexuses were. Count the price on top of that, basically paying more for less features.
I think I will swap over to Pixel 2 XL from OP5. Pixel is now available on vodafone and from my contract I can receive a new phone, so I will switch in december I think.
OP5 is nice, but Pixel feels way more modern!
Well, the reason you see the phone so cheap is because no one in their right would ever but a phone off eBay, just a dumb idea. To buy a used phone you go to swappa.com
Much safer to buy there and the listings descriptions are usually exactly what you get. Because of that you usually get better pricing there
Will surely be sifting to Pixel XL 2 when it arrives in November in India...
Happy with my OP5 but Pixel 2 Camera and OS updates are main reason I am switching...
Yes I will be swapping to the Pixel 2 XL, already pre-ordered it - After I had my first encounter with OP customer service when I got my OP5, I've loss all faith in the Company. I'll be moving on.
I like my OP5, but it has some annoying quirks. The latest is my phone doesn't ring for incoming calls. Everything is set right, just no rings. I only find out about a call now when I get a voicemail notification. Tried all the normal fixes, even full factory resets, but no resolution. OP's customer service is pretty uimpressive, too. I ordered a 128GB 2 XL and will give it try for a couple weeks. If I like it, my OP5 is headed for Swappa.
google is copying apple's business model on so many levels these days, except they are not offering anything exceptional (i think apple products are great, for what they are). the main difference is, apple does what THEY do very, very well. hardware and software engineers back to back means their devices always run cleanly and efficiently. google is using the same parts as every other flagship android manufacturer, and tends to stay just behind the curve. they slap a decent (that's right, DECENT) camera on the back, put the google logo on it and sell it for flagship prices. i'm sure their support is better than OP (impossible to beat OPs level of crappiness here), but it doesn't make up for their lack of innovation and foresight.
basically, if you are on XDA, WE are your support team. developers here will likely keep you on the latest OS with latest security definitions. this is one thing google usually does correctly, but it's not necessary to pay that kind of money for a service that is usually provided for free.
plus, the pixel line is UGLY. OP5 is definitely a "2 year ago" design, and it's still light years ahead of the pixel.
if you take a lot of pictures, pixel would be better. otherwise, i'd say stick with OP5.
Giving my OnePlus to my father. Getting the pixel 2 for camera (oneplus camera is a letdown for me), fast updates, and to a lesser extent, being able to call on google assistant just by squeezing the phone (hopefully works as advertised)
Maybe in US it's only 100$ more than OnePlus 5,ie 640$ for 64 GB variant. But here in India the same variant costs 940$ !! So I'm gonna stick with my OnePlus 5 and I'm fully satisfied with it.
There is no difference, if you are trying to choose similar OS phones, hardware specs may differ though.
I would prefer buyin iOS device over OP5.
Nope. The cost plus no real upgrade other then screen and camera. Plus I don't think i'd ever go with a small 5 inch screen again. 5.5 is the absolute smallest i'd go (5-5.2" screens are for midget hands). I'm used to 5.7" screens. That being said the Pixel 2 XL would be the comparison and that isn't even an option at around $1000 for the 128gb. That's silly to give up on far far superior battery life, dash charging, never gets hot and overall performance.
The OP said 3 years of updates... nope 18 months and another 18 months for security patches not updates. Also, you do know that every other SD 835 is clocked slower then the OP5, 2.35ghz compared to 2.45ghz in the OP5 and runs cooler.
i like the pixel, but i hate the finger print in the back..if oneplus 6 changes the finger print, i'll not buy it either...
Bit of a rant and discussion.
I've bought this phone 4 days ago and was so happy with it's performance, look and general experience with it. Long have I waited for a phone to have a fairly powerful chipset like the Snapdragon 660 at an affordable price point to finally retire my Nexus 5 which has started failing on me and needed a replacement ASAP.
When I saw that I could pick this phone up for 240 euro for the 64GB version I thought that it was a decent upgrade over my beloved Nexus and that given that it is an Android One phone, it wouldn't be all that different from a Nexus. What I mean by this is update timely support for 2 years and security updates for another 1. Also, being that it's just as easy to unlock the bootloader as on the Nexus, I was expecting that the dev support would be nearly identical, specially at this price point.
Given that this is my first Xiaomi device, I was not aware of the time it took Xiaomi to release it's kernel source hindering the dev support at the device's prime. But all this wouldn't be as much of an issue since I mainly planned to stick with the stock ROM and root it to get a couple of more features that it doesn't have by default as well as use a couple of apps that make my life a bit easier and when the source lands, we would have it at the devices EOL so that the support could continue. For the whole two days, I was happy with this agreement until I found out about Xiaomi's newly anounced Poco F1. I had heard about this phone on the day that I've bought my A2, but dismissed it because of the rumored price of 400+ euro.
The announced phone has everything that this phone lacks for me which is a 3.5mm jack, memory card slot and a 1000 mAh bigger battery. On top of that, it has that sweet, sweet Snapdragon 845. To top all that off, it's promised that the kernel source code will land upon launch of the device on 29th August which along with the equally easily unlockable bootloader makes me think that the Poco F1 should've been the real successor to my Nexus. Digging a little bit I've found out that the Xiaomi phones are actually officially supported for quite some time by Xiaomi but that the base android version can be old. At the announcement of the F1 they promised to solve the base not being updated thanks to project Treble.
Now, when I was buying this phone, I was very budget conscious and the 240 euro at this point of the year was a bit of a stretch for me given the vacation part of the year, but I really needed a phone and thought that the 20 euro over the 220 price of the 32GB was worth it. Now, the F1 is announced at 300$ in India which would translate to 300 euro in my country, probably (waiting for the launch in Europe). That is another 60 over the A2, but you get so much better specs. Even tho the A2 is a lot more premium than the F1, given that I'm coming from the Nexus 5, you know where my heart is when it comes to "premium vs performance" thing. I'm not much of a camera guy, just need a decent one and both have great cameras but I am an audiophile and I quite enjoy the output out of the A2. The speakerphone lacks a bit of bass but it is very loud (specially compared to the Nexus 5) and the headphone output, even being a bit clunky with the USB Type C adapter thing, is really good. Looking at the keynote, I've seen that the F1 should have a good DAC for the headphones, but I've read that the front facing dual speakers are a bit tinny which is not an issue, just as long as the quality and clarity is acceptable given that for any high quality audio I would resort to headphones anyway. Only things that I'm not a fan on the F1 is the notch at the top and the curvature of the edges of the screen. The notch can be turned off without loss given that the display is larger than the A2 for the notch, but you're still left with those huge curves at the bottom edges.
Now having said all of this, I'm really tempted to sell my new A2 in favor of the F1. Are there any reasons or benefits to sticking with the A2 instead of switching over to the F1 that I'm missing?
I would greatly appreciate your opinion on this matter.
i think you're overthinking and greatly underevaluating the a2 official support.
the f1 has just one problem, miui. and yes, you can fix that by unlocking and getting a custom rom. eventually.
it launches at the end of august, there will be at least another month before you can pick one up in europe at a decent price.
then you need to wait for an actual custom rom official ish team to pick it up, another 1-2 months before it's good enough for daily driver usage. ow wait christmas already?
or you could do what you did already and enjoy your phone, the a2 isnt a bad phone at all!
i got one too, saw the f1 news and i dont feel the same way at all. in europe it's gonna sell for at least 350euros. asuming you ever find one in stock.
if you really want to, mosr eu retailers will refund you fully within 30 days of your purchase you could return the a2 and wait for the f1, i wouldn't but it's an option...
p.s. i also think that even though the 845 is faster, the 660 is fast enough. perhaps even a 636 would be plenty. i find it hard to justify high end chips honestly.
p.s.2 and yes the f1 is gonna break the high end phones market. xiaomi will probably sell as many as it can make and big oems will have to think hard and strong before offering a phone that costs over 500 euros
All I can add is that there will ** Always ** be phones with better specs just around the corner. Did I say Always?
Phones can do so much now, which is good, but making a decision and being satisfied with it is increasingly difficult. I too have a
Nexus 5 (and 5x) in the past. The 5 I still have as a backup, has LineageOS on it and is doing great.
The most difficult thing for me is determining what I really need (separating it from what I want), and then finding a device that fits.
I love that the MiA2 is android one. It's basically Lineage, which is perfect for me. Does it make Network connections quickly? Absolutely, and very
strong connections at that.
Sufficient ram and rom? Works great for me... Snap660 is all I need, with what I do... Unlockable? perfect. Treble? perfect. Decent Camera? absolutely.
So my checklist is... sparse I know. But why pay for more than you need? Oh they'll sell it to you! And they're happy to make you believe you need it!
But what do you need? really?
That's the tough question to answer.
Those two answers above hit the nail on the head perfectly. I love my Mi A2 as it gives me everything I need in a phone.
i love my a2 too but slow storage is on the down side
copying 2 gb file takes 5 min
flashing the phone via edl mode takes 1200 seconds
Sure, sort of. On the one hand, the overall better specs of the F1 has me feeling like I missed out. On the other, though - I knew ahead of time that whatever phone I'll end up getting will be an Android One phone, so... that takes the F1 out of the picture, anyway. Also... I doubt the F1 will still cost ~300USD outside of India.
For a very long time I messed around with custom ROMs, rooting, etc. With the 5X I started feeling like I'm not missing much by not going that route. The most important thing for me is that the company whose reputation is on the line (in this case, Google - since Android One, and all) pushes out security and feature updates in a timely manner.
I also vehemently agree with the notion that "something better is always around the corner" - getting the latest and greatest is a game you'll always lose, unless you have a lot of disposable income. But then we wouldn't be comparing the A2 and the F1, would we?
Think about it this way - imagine what the Poco F3/F4 will bring in two-three years time, when we're due for an upgrade!
A bit OT but it's funny to see how many n5x users are gathering in the mia2 thread ^^ I'm very happy about my mia2 I was concerned about the battery but I get now about 6 hours SOT and that's all I needed. On top of this, the camera is really great. I think that in a few months we will have real nice devices with all we need anted from a phone. ???
I know the 6T is a fairly premium device with great features,decent battery,great SW etc,but it has some
Down sides
right now Samsung has released a new mid ranger with added benefits over the 6T minus the CPU and build,and few other things
Ip68 rating
Micro SD
Always on Display notifications
4000 mah battery
One UI SW similar to oxygenOS
2 Android version updates
Quarterly security
Is it crazy to want to swap my 6T for one of these.
Im really attracted to the features OnePlus don't have.The One UI software looks great,don't see how I'd be losing anything in Software at least
Ip68 rating: the last time i dropped my ohone in the water was 3 years ago.
Micro SD: move on.
Always on Display notifications: magisk
4000 mah battery: not a deal breaker.
One UI SW similar to oxygenOS: 50/50
2 Android version updates: oneplus does a better job.
Quarterly security
Found no reason to put in to the comparison
Ip rating to me just words. Im not gonna take my phone in the toilet or shower. SD card, if you getting 256gb version of OnePlus you won't need a sd card lol.
3700 battery can last me at least one day, if not charging is omg fast. Before I went to shower phone was at 28 percent come out of my shower(around 20 mins) phone and s at 85 percent.
OnePlus does update pretty quickly at least faster than Samsung?
I hope you get my point by now.
Good luck for choosing one of the device you asked for.
PM: I don't work for OnePlus I just give you for what I thought.
manus31 said:
Is it crazy to want to swap my 6T for one of these.
Im really attracted to the features OnePlus don't have.The One UI software looks great,don't see how I'd be losing anything in Software at least
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In a single sentence.
Yes, you are crazy to even think of swapping a 6T for any mid level device.
You are crazy for swapping a 6T for any Samsung device.
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In a single sentence.
Yes, you are crazy to even think of swapping a 6T for any mid level device.
You are crazy for swapping a 6T for any Samsung device.
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Better get my head checked then ,
Thanks
tech_head said:
In a single sentence.
Yes, you are crazy to even think of swapping a 6T for any mid level device.
You are crazy for swapping a 6T for any Samsung device.
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I think that's one point of view definitely and I would agree with you 50% but you can't argue that other company's, Xiaomi,now even Samsung are offering a lot more or equal at less of a price
Having used OnePlus since the release of the 3,I'm worried OnePlus is gone off track with there ever rising prices sometimes bad decisions
The in screen fingerprint for example shouldn't of been in the 6T,why take away the LED also.
Hope the 7 is gonna have the newer faster in screen fingerprint sensor,led and a more appealing price
This is crazy.
manus31 said:
I know the 6T is a fairly premium device with great features,decent battery,great SW etc,but it has some
Down sides
right now Samsung has released a new mid ranger with added benefits over the 6T minus the CPU and build,and few other things
Ip68 rating
Micro SD
Always on Display notifications
4000 mah battery
One UI SW similar to oxygenOS
2 Android version updates
Quarterly security
Is it crazy to want to swap my 6T for one of these.
Im really attracted to the features OnePlus don't have.The One UI software looks great,don't see how I'd be losing anything in Software at least
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LOL
Seems to me like a bad April fools joke!
:silly:
manus31 said:
I think that's one point of view definitely and I would agree with you 50% but you can't argue that other company's, Xiaomi,now even Samsung are offering a lot more or equal at less of a price
Having used OnePlus since the release of the 3,I'm worried OnePlus is gone off track with there ever rising prices sometimes bad decisions
The in screen fingerprint for example shouldn't of been in the 6T,why take away the LED also.
Hope the 7 is gonna have the newer faster in screen fingerprint sensor,led and a more appealing price
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What is Samsung offering with a SD45 at equal or less?
Now would be the SD55, but you get my point.
The FP sensor under screen isn't any worse than Samsung. I've seen the complaints about the S10.
The rising prices reflect the additional cost of components and R&D. They are still offer flagship like phones for less than Google, Samsung, LG, etc.
I give A50 a year (and I am generous) before lags will drive users crazy because your device will be slower after every single samsung update... If you want lags, locked bootloader and lack of any basic stuff you are used to while using ubl phones with a not-so-good-looking sugary coat samsung provides to amaze the users for almost the same price, go for it.
My personal problem, OneUI looks good on certain images, but I found it ridiculous on a phone in my hand. I just don't like that launcher, that icon shape, that colors, that bar on the bottom even if they made it thin, I am so into the real gesture navigation that I see all the other options just not good enough.
I am a customization freak, I tried every single customization option on the market since I use android phones, and guess what I use on Oneplus: stock launcher, stock round icons.
From my experience Sammy latts laggy after some period of time and I've had a good number of them: Note 2, 3,5; S4, 7,8. Its unknown how One UI will behave in a long run.
OnePlus provides better software experience and
can be easy unlocked and tweaked to your liking. Samsung won't give you that option.
Don't get my wrong, Samsung has definitely stepped up their game in recent years. But their failure rates are certainly higher than any other manufacturer in terms of long-term support, and OnePlus' track record stands for itself when it comes to dependability. I know not everyone thinks that, but the numbers don't lie. This isn't including the fact that OnePlus is a huge supporter of third party development vs other brands that spend millions on ensuring you can't break their software restrictions if you ever decide to pull that trigger and make your own choice (with the exception of the source of the fingerprint scanner for the 6T... But then again, no product is perfect). Like I said, Samsung has gotten better, and it probably won't be a bad purchase overall vs purchasing Samsung 2 years ago. But OnePlus is a brand that's pushing barriers that other brands have been reluctant or even outright hostile to go towards themselves.
The choice is ultimately up to you and people who get downright rude or hostile about switching need to chill. But I personally would say to consider the trade offs of the long-term functionality of your device before switching. If you're someone who doesn't use a device past a year: sure you can get a pretty good deal, I'm sure. But if you want longevity, I'd say OnePlus is your best bet, especially if you're trying to stay cost-efficient with your devices.
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Don't get my wrong, Samsung has definitely stepped up their game in recent years. But their failure rates are certainly higher than any other manufacturer in terms of long-term support, and OnePlus' track record stands for itself when it comes to dependability. I know not everyone thinks that, but the numbers don't lie. This isn't including the fact that OnePlus is a huge supporter of third party development vs other brands that spend millions on ensuring you can't break their software restrictions if you ever decide to pull that trigger and make your own choice (with the exception of the source of the fingerprint scanner for the 6T... But then again, no product is perfect). Like I said, Samsung has gotten better, and it probably won't be a bad purchase overall vs purchasing Samsung 2 years ago. But OnePlus is a brand that's pushing barriers that other brands have been reluctant or even outright hostile to go towards themselves.
The choice is ultimately up to you and people who get downright rude or hostile about switching need to chill. But I personally would say to consider the trade offs of the long-term functionality of your device before switching. If you're someone who doesn't use a device past a year: sure you can get a pretty good deal, I'm sure. But if you want longevity, I'd say OnePlus is your best bet, especially if you're trying to stay cost-efficient with your devices.
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Yes I understand what you are saying. Oneplus does have a good track record but lately they have slacked IMO.Updates now consist of meaningless OnePlus app updates with no new features.Back with the OnePlus 3 the updates would be featureful with plenty of fixes, optimisations etc.Now OnePlus is not a budget device and people generally buy the phones for software and there has been nothing to get excited about with the 6T at all in the betas offered so far
Now the a50 is half the price and addresses certain problems that the 6T has such as AOD for notifications and has additional hardware features,better display,bigger battery and I'm pretty sure Samsung will offer 2 Android versions no problem, not as Quick as Oneplus,but I still think it's an appealing alternative. And OnePlus has also slowed down with the stable releases
What was I thinking.just bordem I think. Will wait for the op7 and see if it's worth an upgrade. Might just stick with the 6T till next year wen I typically change phones every 2 years.
I now submit that the 6T is a far superior device than the a50,got a look at it and it's made of plastic or glass tic as they call it, I like the software though of One UI and OnePlus needs to add some new features to keep me happy,maybe this will happen with the 7,they will need to address the led situation though and gv us AOD in oxygen OS
Mid range vs high range? U kidding? Lol
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ivanov13 said:
From my experience Sammy latts laggy after some period of time and I've had a good number of them: Note 2, 3,5; S4, 7,8. Its unknown how One UI will behave in a long run.
OnePlus provides better software experience and
can be easy unlocked and tweaked to your liking. Samsung won't give you that option.
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And that's why I switched to the OnePlus 6T because Samsung devices are just boring. Overly priced we can't do nothing with them equals boredom.
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Just saw the specs of P5....Poor resolution upgrade!
I guess it's pointless and waste of money....what are your thoughts?
Since our security updates will end this month, I plan to upgrade for those and take advantage of the strong T-Mobile 5G signal in my area.
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Just saw the specs of P5....Poor resolution upgrade!
I guess it's pointless and waste of money....what are your thoughts?
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My thoughts?
If you only now just saw the specs you haven't been following the news. You likely also do not understand why Google didn't go with the 865/865+ in the two devices.
For me, it boils down to which features I consider more important. Right now I'm leaning towards the P5 simply because of the aluminum body, but the 4A 5G and its headphone jack is compelling. I think in the end, it's going to boil down to "do I want to pay the extra $200 or not?"
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Coming from the 2XL... The 5 is an upgrade. As far as the ppi... https://www.androidauthority.com/chasing-pixels-810926/ this article from AA is very good and I'm sure I won't notice it much. But I am going to wait for reviews and actually see it side by side
In case you missed topjohnwu's tweets:
https://twitter.com/topjohnwu/status/1311370798267990016
Ive never been one of the sheeple, the people who buy into aspirational technology (people who aspire to own somehting because its new and everyone else has one), so its not even a decision for me. Im a fucntional user, if a device performs the functions i need it to, im happy. The only reason i ever upgrade devices is when one is dead, or very much close to being....
I do not get the "new device every 6 months" buyers...i just dont, i think thats insanity
Personally i look at the lines of sheeple at Apple Stores on every release and weep for humanity, and the planet which gets raped to bring people ovepriced (thanks to Apple - they are the root of all evil, not least because they overprice their products, thereby forcing everyone in the market to follow suit, because to do anythign less is to be seen as inferior, so blame Apple, i do, asshat comapny) devices they dont really need
Pretty much the forumula is: new phone = new camera that takes pictures of an even more distant galaxy, hmm very useful in every day life
Some people in some countries have way too much spare money if theyre buying new phones all the time
Im sticking with what works for me, not a corporations bottom line, thanks
Also this:
https://www.xda-developers.com/google-pixel-4a-5g-pixel-5-great-value-in-us/
I loved the Pixel 5. I think Google made a small decision to stick with full hd resolution simply because you don't notice as such if the panel is good. It's easy on the battery. It will be easy on the chipset and provide consistent performance.
Pixel 5 does not lack anything as such. The only thing i was a bit disappointed was ufs 2.1 storage. Other than that I'm loving the Pixel 5. I'll get it maybe this Christmas or so!
The more I think about it, the more the 4a5g is looking like the better deal. Only differences between it and the five are two less gigabytes of RAM, no 90hz refresh, and a smaller battery, but the battery is still bigger than the 2xl, so battery life should still be an improvement. I've not yet owned a phone that had a 90hz refresh rate, so that's not really a huge deal to me yet.
The big draw toward the 4a5g for me personally is that the screen is bigger, which would make it feel like more of an upgrade compared to the 2XL.
The materials used are also different, but I've never really been a huge fan of glass backs. Plastic was always all right with me, so the 4a5g won't bother me in that regard. It supposedly feels pretty good in the hand even though its materials are "lesser than” the materials used for the 5 back.
Forgot about wireless charging too, but personally I've never owned a phone that had wireless charging, so again, not a big deal for me yet.
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sharkie405 said:
The more I think about it, the more the 4a5g is looking like the better deal. Only differences between it and the five are two less gigabytes of RAM, no 90hz refresh, and a smaller battery, but the battery is still bigger than the 2xl, so battery life should still be an improvement. I've not yet owned a phone that had a 90hz refresh rate, so that's not really a huge deal to me yet.
The big draw toward the 4a5g for me personally is that the screen is bigger, which would make it feel like more of an upgrade compared to the 2XL.
The materials used are also different, but I've never really been a huge fan of glass backs. Plastic was always all right with me, so the 4a5g won't bother me in that regard. It supposedly feels pretty good in the hand even though its materials are "lesser than” the materials used for the 5 back.
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I second your thoughts here. 4a5 is certainly a better handset and not much hard hitting on the pocket too!
So far with lack of reviews and having seen a few of the random videos we can get. The OnePlus 8 Pro is looking better to me. Really need to see some full reviews
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So far with lack of reviews and having seen a few of the random videos we can get. The OnePlus 8 Pro is looking better to me. Really need to see some full reviews
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I kind of agree with you here, except that I am seriously looking at going the OnePlus 8T route.
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ZombieUsr said:
So far with lack of reviews and having seen a few of the random videos we can get. The OnePlus 8 Pro is looking better to me. Really need to see some full reviews
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I kind of agree with you here, except that I am seriously looking at going the OnePlus 8T route.
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I am changing my mind to OnePlus 8 Pro too, I can go to swappa.com and get for less price than P5 with taxes. I am seriously considering going back to iPhone. Google has been using the same camera sensor hardware since the Pixel 2 came out. That means if Google ported the sofware algorithms to the Pixel 2 it would take pictures the same if not damn close to being the same.
after being a 4 year pixel 2 xl owner... the pixel 5 feels like a natural successor. Jut my opinion though
i currently use a pixel 3 because i prefer the size but im pretty much done with the pixel series. the cost is far too high and the features are less and less. the 4 had no fingerprint reader..... so i was thinking of getting a Zenfone 7. great size, great amount of ram........ EXPANDABLE STORAGE!!! but after seeing the OnePlus Nord N10, i might change my mind. ill have to see after the first reviews but it has what i want/need in a phone. google is just too obsessed with trying to either win the apple crowd, or become like apple.
maybe if they ever add features like expandable storage ill buy another pixel but the odds of that happening are not good. knowing google, theyll probably give up on the pixel line after the pixel 7 so i plan on holding on to my Panda Pixel indefinitely.
Okay i changed my decision probably.
I don't think i'll be getting Pixel 5 solely because of outdated hardware. Only if they had upgraded the camera sensors i'd have gone for it. The current sensor is at the end of its life.
I can't decide if I want to get a OP8T, OP8 Pro, or Pixel 5.
I prefer the flat screen of the 5 and 8t, the rear fingerprint sensor on the 5, and the telephoto on the 8 pro.
Get rid of P2-XL?
amandeepparmar said:
Just saw the specs of P5....Poor resolution upgrade!
I guess it's pointless and waste of money....what are your thoughts?
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Depends on your battery. After October, no more OTA's from Google.
If your battery is good, between updates from Google Play Store and LineageOS, I think the phone
would be plenty secure. I plan to keep using mine for awhile. running LineageOS
YoshiFan501 said:
I can't decide if I want to get a OP8T, OP8 Pro, or Pixel 5.
I prefer the flat screen of the 5 and 8t, the rear fingerprint sensor on the 5, and the telephoto on the 8 pro.
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lol Flat screen is such a bliss. My next phone will be a flat screen. I am tired of this curved look and miss touches due to the curve
I went from. The p2xl to the 5, it's definitely an upgrade for me. I love how smooth it feels with the extra ram and 90hs screen, the SD765g has no trouble giving me a great experience on the couple games I do play, (pubg and genshin impact) the battery life for me is about double what the 2xl was and I'm happy to know I'll be getting monthly security updates for the next three years. There are still a couple things I don't like. The top behind the screen speaker is just so-so, far inferior to the 2xl's stereo front firing speakers. However I don't watch or listen to much without headphones or a bt speaker anyways and it does fine for calls. they removed a feature I did actually like.. active edge, I miss sweezing to activate assistant rather than saying hey Google or swiping the corner but still not really a deal breaker for me just so thing to get used to.
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