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I only want to share with you how much i am happy about this phone.
I use it a lot for work on the road, i'm a business developer and so i usually have to share files, browse the Web, use social networks and so on.
The phone works very well in every task, even in basilar photoshooting for live events, making basilar video editing, etc.
But what makes me really happy is the strength of the building. My phone fallen a lot of time on the ground, in the water, in the bathroom, I use it under the shower, and lot of other things.
One week ago the best example: I forgot my Xperia Z on the roof of my car
After 500 meters i hear a sound on the car and then looking in the mirror I see the telefone flying on the street on the other side of the street.
I turned the car and run to take the phone, in the mean time two cars jumped on it...
The result? Some scratches on the rubber bezel (very light scratches!).
My phone don't have cases... Only one film on the front and one on the back (those who came whith the phone).
The phone has no issues! It's a pleasure to know that i can use my phone in every situation!
Wow!
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Nice share brother
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Wow! Good luck with the xperia terminator!
i have mine for almost a year too... and without any protection or cases...
the phone has fallen several times and under shower usage for music playing or answering call is a very easy task...
my phone still is all fonctionning and after unlocking it and installing the PAC rom 4.3.1 i'm more happier that ever...!!!
this phone is just perfect... i compared it with the Z1 of one of my friends... u don't really sens the difference... yes! Z1 is more powerfull but Z is more beautiful and and more... more... more a personnal phone...
for me... best phone ever!
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I have Z for 11 months.
It was good enough to not rush to get Z1. Which I will skip maybe,
just to get the next flagship.
Now Z seems similar to Z1 in speed and performance.
I have my z for 6 months. And I think it is a great terminal I will not need to upgrade to a new smartphone for now.
Mine is 6 months now.. Already got 3 replacements....
I've got 11 months. I was always good! Great phone. Especially because the xperia z has brought new aesthetic in home sony.
I've got z1 but still i have my xZ with me, not willing to sell this beast
Both xZ and xZ1 are awesome mobiles.
I have mine over a year, and would not change it for anything. Well maybe something with a better camera. If they will make an Z2 with dual sim then that's my new phone
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tomitsu said:
I have mine over a year, and would not change it for anything. Well maybe something with a better camera. If they will make an Z2 with dual sim then that's my new phone
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Yup me too..
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This is the best smartphone I have had the pleasure of owning
I previously had Note 1. Bad firmware resulted in a couple of bricks
After the.second brick, I asked grey retailer for a "credit " to go toward XZ, which they did, and after nearly a year, not a single problem :thumbup:
I even accidentally dropped in the toilet, and was extremely glad about the water resistance
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I have this phone since 7 months, the phone has fallen a lot of times, in water on the street and from 2nd floor (10 Mt) the phone hasn't scratches, and I don't use cases, only the films
Unlocking Bootloader gave me a lot of possibilities, the phone is smooth, has good battery life and I can do whatever I want...
The best phone I ever had!
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I'm on to my third. The first one had its back peeling off. The second screen broke after falling 3 foot on to a tiled floor. IMO the phone is just as fragile as any other.
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xz or g2?
Helo guys.i have chance to trade my xz with lg g2.what you guys think?should trade my xz with g2 or not?
Thanks for guidance
myid.m said:
Helo guys.i have chance to trade my xz with lg g2.what you guys think?should trade my xz with g2 or not?
Thanks for guidance
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Tough call. I had a G2 which I really liked but it was slippy and the back creaked next to the volume/on off button controls which was annoying. I still have my Xperia Z and still use it regularly (main phone now is the ZL). The Z is a nicer build quality, feels better and looks better. Frankly, the camera is better on the G2, it is faster and the screen is much better but it's awkward to hold and doesn't have the Z wow factor...
I've had my Z 6 months coming from a nexus 4,at first I wasn't impressed but since 4.3 I have fell in love with it the performance is good now, plus with custom kernel I have gamma and the screen looks great now,also camera is great in good conditions and being able to use in the rain a must in the UK.
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murrayalex said:
Tough call. I had a G2 which I really liked but it was slippy and the back creaked next to the volume/on off button controls which was annoying. I still have my Xperia Z and still use it regularly (main phone now is the ZL). The Z is a nicer build quality, feels better and looks better. Frankly, the camera is better on the G2, it is faster and the screen is much better but it's awkward to hold and doesn't have the Z wow factor...
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I to loved my xz.realy like the design so much.the only problem is the backplate has lifted up.
Im afraid to get it into water.
I think wanna change to g2 now. Thanks for your advice friend
I've had my Z for 11 months now.
Overall this is probably the best phone I've had in terms of performance. For all the stick Sony gets for slow updates my Z is a completely different phone from when I first got it. Each update has made it better. With the latest firmware it's actually a faster phone than it was a year ago.
In terms of wear and tear my Z has had 3 major falls on concrete from my pocket. It's always been naked except for front and back screen protectors and hasn't really sustained any cosmetic damage from the 3 falls.
However sometimes the proximity sensor and headphone jack will stop working. When this happens I have to press on the proximity sensor quite hard and it'll be back to normal. Whether this is due to the falls or water damage (the white water strips have turned pink) I'm not sure. I'm still under warranty so hopefully I can get this fixed.
Other than that the seals on the flaps are loose therefore it's a bit difficult to close the ports.
I'm really considering getting the Z1 because I feel that it addresses all the flaws of the Z. Open headphone jack and magnetic charging so need to bother with the flaps. I sync my Z over Wi-Fi so I don't need to open the usb port. Finally the 3000 mAh battery on the Z1 addresses the biggest flaw of the Z, the bad battery life. I usually get 4 hours of screen on time on average.
graffus said:
I only want to share with you how much i am happy about this phone.
I use it a lot for work on the road, i'm a business developer and so i usually have to share files, browse the Web, use social networks and so on.
The phone works very well in every task, even in basilar photoshooting for live events, making basilar video editing, etc.
But what makes me really happy is the strength of the building. My phone fallen a lot of time on the ground, in the water, in the bathroom, I use it under the shower, and lot of other things.
One week ago the best example: I forgot my Xperia Z on the roof of my car
After 500 meters i hear a sound on the car and then looking in the mirror I see the telefone flying on the street on the other side of the street.
I turned the car and run to take the phone, in the mean time two cars jumped on it...
The result? Some scratches on the rubber bezel (very light scratches!).
My phone don't have cases... Only one film on the front and one on the back (those who came whith the phone).
The phone has no issues! It's a pleasure to know that i can use my phone in every situation!
Wow!
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I think that the current solution to the module layout is inefficient.
The area of the partition (marked in yellow) itself equals to at least another small module, IMO, a phone can't have so much 'dead' space and the more features a phone has the better. The partition area and the magnets also add weight to the device which could otherwise be used for more features.
Secondly, instead of 'wasting time' on fancy new features that we've never seen before, they should focus on getting the phone and modules to work together and release it for consumers for now and then later focus on these bleeding edge tech.
Thirdly, if water will spill on the back they could potentially sip through the cracks and get to the connection causing a short circuit and oxidation.
Lastly, the more expensive parts and the time to assemble them means the consumers would have to pay more. The whole point of this project is to make smartphones more accessible by making this significantly cheaper than current smartphones.
I think a back cover with clips or some mechanical locking mechanism to hold all the modules would be a much better solution. It will probably make switching modules a bit more complicated but it shouldn't be harder than changing the battery on a current smartphone (like in the Galaxy S line), in Ara's case it would be like changing several batteries.
TL;DR: I think a back cover to hold all the modules in place would be a much better solution because of the 'dead space' of the partition, weight, water protection and cost.
I think that the modules would also make the phone quite annoying to hold with the current design - the modules themselves seem smooth, but the partitions between them appear to stick out slightly more than the modules themselves, resulting in a bumpy surface. If I do buy an ara phone, I will definitely buy/create a case for it if they keep the current design, purely due to the annoyances created by the lumps and bumps.
I agree
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I agree also. They probably have thought about it also.
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The frame does not stick out from the modules from what I saw till now.
I guess there will be back covers that comfort your hold.
I think they decided to use this method mostly because it is different and people will recognise you when you use it. Despite of that, it is significantly smaller than Xperia Z for instance and you should be able to hold it comfortably.
And I like the design, even more that you can print your own covers...
What I question is, how big the battery modules will be....
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Why not 3rd party TPU bumper cases?
That should do the trick, it will hold everything together + protection
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Just as I said.
But the point about water and safety is true... Maybe there will be done kind of "rubbers", ultra thin that tighten the gap between where the shell touches the endo? I guess things like that will spread if the ara becomes a hit
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I agree with the back cover idea but at the same time I do like the look of the design that they've done with it. As for the liquid damage worries, like keenofhiphop said about the rubber, the modules themselves will probably be sealed units with the only opening being the connectors which might make them somewhat waterproof hopefully
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They are definitely not waterproof. You could see at the first Dev con that is just a metal kind of box with a plastic shell, it's like a lunchbox made from aluminum: tight but not waterproof.
I, too, like the design. It's special and while it is the definition of pragmatical, it as well is unique and the fact that you can individually change it by printing shells tops off every other device around here. You don't like the design? Buy a cover...
I heard someone complain about the Epms and why they would not use any mechanics, but that way there will not be trouble with breaking connectors and warranty due to physical activity.
And they do not take up much space and hold tight.
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I think they did not considered the back cover as the primary idea here is freedom of changing the modules quickly and adding new features, like say your battery is dyeing so you replace it quickly with another battery module while on the other hand the back case will make it a little difficult and will cost a little bit of time.
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They are definitely not waterproof. You could see at the first Dev con that is just a metal kind of box with a plastic shell, it's like a lunchbox made from aluminum: tight but not waterproof.
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They are not waterproof - yet. The pre-alpha modules are not ready for prime time. Judging them right now is a little silly. Who knows what will come in the months to follow.
Covers are a good idea indeed, but you never know when Ara might be partition less and actully support the idea of orignal Phonebloks? using Lego like stuff as modules and there base would go in the holes on the main body
I love the design of the phone for the same reason I have a clear window on my PC. If I help build something or if I play a part in putting it together or whatever the case may be, it makes that experience much more personal and I have a lot more pride in the device. If I'm proud of something, then I'm gonna show it off, its as simple as that. So I like the "raw" look of the phone and it's semi-exposed modules.
Yeah. Why not use transparent modules to show of the processor or so
Per Regenbogen von meinem Moto G geKANGt.
I think your supposed to be able to hotswap modules. I don't mind the current design, but it should have some kind of border that goes on the edge of the phone to secure the modules better.
Hotswap or not, they look like they could slide out with very little force. Dropping your phone and having to pick up the dozen pieces doesnt sound that fun. I dont think you should be able to remove your memory module without turning the device off and as such a shell somewhat like a galaxy or whatever would be ideal
The poibt of the EPMs is that they need quite a bit of force to take off, once locked they even demonstrated that...
the critics
Hello everyone,
from what I've read here i can see that some are still thinking the old way about a smartphone.
It should have every new feature and therefore a waste of space for borders is a waste of possibilities. Wrong!
Will you use your camera, high end GPU, LTE, flashlight, fingerprint sensor, WiFi, NFC, audio jack, HDMI port, USB port, speaker's and what ever else your phone has all at the same time? Or will you take pictures and share them over the internet, another time play a game on it and so on.
The medium sized model has 8 slots at the back, i guess WiFi and NFC can go in one, or even together with mobile and LTE. Another is CPU, GPU, camera, battery and sensors like gyroscope. Still at least one left. Maybe for another camera for 3D movies. Or a second battery so you can use it for several days.
If you don't need one, swap it with another one. They are not big, keep them in your purse or so.
Another thing was of they fall off easily. No!
They use electronic magnets to keep them in. When turned off they are very weak but strong enough to hold them in when you move and turn your phone, but nearly unremovable when turned on. A modified version of Lollipop will enable you to change most of the modules while the system is running. A weak CPU and battery are included in the Endo, so nothing will happen. You can guess you will have some kind of menu where you can choose which module you want to remove so the magnets turn off.
Why no backcover or pins to hold the modules?
Because they can wear off or even break. If you want to change modules often, like you have different camera modules for different occasions, a simple one for daily use, one with optical zoom and one with a big sensor for darker pictures, you will damage your phone sooner or later.
The phone normally is 9,7mm thick, same as normal smartphones, a cover would make it thicker. If you like one, get one. They surely will be available, because everything is modular.
It's not waterproof. Why is that a problem for you?
Every less expensive phone is not and this phone is designed for the 5 billion people who don't have a smartphone yet, because it's very cheap and customisable for every need. If you want it waterproof, there surely will be modules or covers available that guarantee you that, but they will cost a bit more, simple.
Why should the first version of a completely new way of handling the mobile hardware market put everything out at the same time. Get this piece of high-tech-art to work smoothly. That's what Google promises. And what they also promise is that everybody can participate in its evolution.
So if you have ideas on how to give that phone a new feature, think it through and try to form it into a sellable solution. This time you can not only complain and hope it's done better next time. No, you can improve it or even invent it.
It's time to use our brains finally!
I agree with that. It is not good enough
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xysawq said:
Why should the first version of a completely new way of handling the mobile hardware market put everything out at the same time. Get this piece of high-tech-art to work smoothly. That's what Google promises. And what they also promise is that everybody can participate in its evolution.
It's time to use our brains finally!
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Man, you summarised all what I wanted to say;
The project must start very simple, it's aimed to be sold for the majority of consumers, not adding x, y, x', y', x'' and so on... This way they'll lose a very large layer of consumers, for it requires more knowledge about electronics than the normal.
Afterwards there can be any accessories or additions as you guys want. The hundred step way starts with a step!
Hey my friends,
im a new user of this great phone but a mistake happend.
On the upper side of this phone is should be one of the two in built mics.
i put the needle in the false whole and not in the sim card slot.
After that i realised the upper mic is much quieter than the lower mic. I know there is technology for noise reduction.
Could someone please test it for me?
thanks guys
regards
I tried making video and blowing into the mics or doing quiet noise and both have same volume level
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Thank you very much. Could you do it with the pre installed sound recorder too?
Just blow first in the upper mic then in the lower mic.
Thanks buddy you help me a lot
Yeah i did the same with that "needle:
Saw your message and immediately tested it. All ok, thank god.
That's really bad and stupid solution by Samsung. But it shouldn't happen something if the needle would damage the mic it couldn't record anything. But anyway maybe some other user have the same like me.
Hi guys,
I have read that Xperia X and X Compact might be secretely watrerproof. Of course it makes no sense to me and it sounds dumb. Anyway, I have performed a pressure test on my X Compact and actually the results are quite similar to those from Z3 Compact, so maybe there is a grain of truth in these rumors. What do you think guys?
i think there maybe be some true about it, i think a least water resistant he is. The reason sony could be not saying is water proof is to avoid the warranty for water damage, as it cannot be defined as to be hardware fault (bad glue) or due to the user making unintended use (submersion on unclean water, over the time or profundity, leaving the cover open).
For me what favor being water proof, 1- the pressure test; 2- the sim/SD slot having a ruber closing similar to the Z cover model;
Also if you look at the fingerprint sony did input it on the phone and leave it unused.
But how knows the best way would be for someone to do a submersion test, but who wants to do it?
Sony Xperia X Compact in Pepsi Cola
also take a look at the teardown https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMfvUJBUWOc it seams to have a glue similar to the olders Z's the usb has a rubber around, earphone jack is glued (mighty be just to fixate) uper speaker is also glued and lower one has a cover similar to the older model (seams like a number one thing) the buttons it dindt show but they seam fixated to the body
It is possible that it's waterproof but for more cost savings they didn't pay to get it certified. All we need is for someone to test it...
My understanding is that the Japanese version is IP rated, while other regions were not. I'm still not planning on testing that theory, but there's a lot of evidence (including anecdotal) that this may be true.
Just tried on my X Compact [pressure sensor test: 993 -> 1002 Millibar].
It works perfectly under water.
No damage after.
It only needs some minutes for the mic to dry completely.
Video on youtube, search for "sony xperia x compact underwater call".
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Lets not forget the U.S version wasn't supposed to have a fingerprint reader so the comment about certification could be true, add this and the other video to the equation and it seems like we do have water proofing.
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Lets not forget the U.S version wasn't supposed to have a fingerprint reader so the comment about certification could be true, add this and the other video to the equation and it seems like we do have water proofing.
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Electronics will work in DI water.
It needs to be shown working in a toilet.
volcolm said:
Electronics will work in DI water.
It needs to be shown working in a toilet.
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Fair enough.
Just made another video where the aqueduct water is evident.
Like before, I'm still not allowed to post URLs, so, search on youtube for
"sony xperia x compact waterproofing".
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changed youtube video description to
"sony xperia x compact waterproof - evident aqueduct water"
i think sony just doesnt want to deal with any water problems so they say it's not waterproof so if someone's phone gets water damaged they don't need to take responsibilities. but they made it waterproof because that way it can share parts (SIM tray, charging port, headphone jack etc.) with other devices and don't need to order extra parts
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I would love an android head unit but my car is incapable of 2din without serious mods, i hate those screens sliding out (they always fail and also it looks ridiculously rice) so i'm asking for help in finding some 1din units.
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Hi
I bought this unit since i have a 1DIN slot too.
Joying UMS01N2
The display is 8inch and clips on, also you can regulate the position up and down with the modular clips on the back side.
As long as you have no really important stuff above or below the din slot, you should be good.
Greetings
It's nice! But infortunately i have fog light switches over the radio and climatronic panel below, but if it would be slightly less big like 5 inch itbwould be perfect
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Try one of these:
JY-UMS04N
Actually, I should also point out that Joying can sell a person a cable extension for the units that would allow a person to place the screen in a remote location from the head unit with a little ingenuity. In other words a person could install the single din and then the screen could be located in a place on your dash that had more space.