At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the Samsung Galaxy Note 8's camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I don't have the opportunity to post some examples yet, but the low light on this is really, really impressive. I was taking some shots of my dog outside with just some weak yard lighting in the backyard and the difference between it and my other phones was striking. It kicked the crap out of my iPhone 7+ at this which has been my gold standard for phone cameras, personally.
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I don't have the opportunity to post some examples yet, but the low light on this is really, really impressive. I was taking some shots of my dog outside with just some weak yard lighting in the backyard and the difference between it and my other phones was striking. It kicked the crap out of my iPhone 7+ at this which has been my gold standard for phone cameras, personally.
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this is good to hear.
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I don't have the opportunity to post some examples yet, but the low light on this is really, really impressive. I was taking some shots of my dog outside with just some weak yard lighting in the backyard and the difference between it and my other phones was striking. It kicked the crap out of my iPhone 7+ at this which has been my gold standard for phone cameras, personally.
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Nice, I look forward to seeing some samples.
I've seen some samples on YouTube compared to other cameras and though it looked pretty good.
Definitely, gonna be better in low light than my Axon 7 or V20's manual mode.
Can anyone force the Note8 to use the telephoto lens in low-light?
There is no camera switch in pro mode, no way to use the tele lens and no DNG RAW capture for it. Only the auto mode and portrait seem to access the telephoto lens, but 99% of the low-light time, it prefers the wide angle one with digital zoom. That is understandable for the causal user, but for the mobile photographer with manual mode, especially with OIS for the telephoto lens, the lack of use is a disappointment. Exynos 8895 Note8 here with Samsung S5K2L2 main sensor.
Any luck with the telephoto lens in any app?
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I don't have the opportunity to post some examples yet, but the low light on this is really, really impressive. I was taking some shots of my dog outside with just some weak yard lighting in the backyard and the difference between it and my other phones was striking. It kicked the crap out of my iPhone 7+ at this which has been my gold standard for phone cameras, personally.
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Still waiting for mine to arrive so it's good to hear your experience with low-light pics. 90% of the pics I delete are because of low-light conditions ruining the shot, so I was really hoping that the dual camera setup on the Note 8 would make it possible to take a decent pic after sundown (or just in a poorly lit room).
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Still waiting for mine to arrive so it's good to hear your experience with low-light pics. 90% of the pics I delete are because of low-light conditions ruining the shot, so I was really hoping that the dual camera setup on the Note 8 would make it possible to take a decent pic after sundown (or just in a poorly lit room).
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My Note 8 should arrive tomorrow. I'll see if I can't get some more light pics up. Also have to do some cleanup and take the shutters down after Hurricane Irma. So we'll see if I get a chance.
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My Note 8 should arrive tomorrow. I'll see if I can't get some more light pics up. Also have to do some cleanup and take the shutters down after Hurricane Irma. So we'll see if I get a chance.
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Yeah, that would be awesome. Cheers.
I am surprised at how messy the photos in low light/no light are coming out.
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Can anyone force the Note8 to use the telephoto lens in low-light?
There is no camera switch in pro mode, no way to use the tele lens and no DNG RAW capture for it. Only the auto mode and portrait seem to access the telephoto lens, but 99% of the low-light time, it prefers the wide angle one with digital zoom. That is understandable for the causal user, but for the mobile photographer with manual mode, especially with OIS for the telephoto lens, the lack of use is a disappointment. Exynos 8895 Note8 here with Samsung S5K2L2 main sensor.
Any luck with the telephoto lens in any app?
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I haven't had the chance to play with the settings much yet, but this is not really a surprise given the f stop on the telephoto lens is f/2.4 - which is not great for low light shots without cranking the ISO and introducing noise, or using a really long shutter time which we all know is not condusive to taking photos on a phone. I'd bet someone hacks the camera settings at some point and finds extra options for things like this however, to give that flexibility to the users. I just don't think it will net good results using the telephoto in low light.
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Yeah, that would be awesome. Cheers.
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Unfortunately Manny Note 8 did not arrive as scheduled due to the hurricane. It arrived lest night, my first day back to work, and I didn't get home till pm. I'll try and take some pictures for tonight.
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Unfortunately Manny Note 8 did not arrive as scheduled due to the hurricane. It arrived lest night, my first day back to work, and I didn't get home till pm. I'll try and take some pictures for tonight.
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No worries. Take your time; I'm in no great hurry.
The low light capabilities of the camera are simply amazing. I took a photo of a darkened room and the photo came out brighter than what it appeared to the naked eye with no flash.
My GF took the same pic with her iPhone 7 and it was dark to the point that you couldn't tell what was on the shelves. I should've done a comparison pic with my Note 3 but I was so blown away with the results, I didn't think of it.
That's been my experience too, really happy with that.
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FINALLY!... We're able to control the flash brightness while recording video. Coming from the Note 4, that option was not available. Great feature to have.
I'm pretty happy with it... Coming from galaxy s8 seems to me the yellowish is toned down a bit in the note 8.
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I'm pretty happy with it... Coming from galaxy s8 seems to me the yellowish is toned down a bit in the note 8.
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That picture is stunning.
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That picture is stunning.
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I know, right?
There are some bright light sources but the darks are still dark and not all washed out. The HDR seems to work equally well in low light and bright contrast situations, which is very impressive indeed.
One thing I must stress, is that although the low light performance is incredible, the no-light performance is... Well.. It really isn't.
I wish I had my girlfriends iPhone 7 on me to compare, but we took took the same shot side by side, and hers was LITERALLY 5X more clear than the Note 8. The grain is horrific, no matter the auto/manual/filter. Using slightly high ISO helps a tad bit, but not by much.
Also, the view finder (previewing the live image before the shot) is even worse, until the photo is taken. Here are some shots, :
8PM (an hour before its pitch black out)
7PM
And of course, the well-lit low light shots (like everyone elses) are incredible, and complimented by the high dinamic range (it was about 6PM at this point, not quite as dark, but dark enough)
Excellent, very pleased, the light from a tv set is enough for capturing nice photos in dark places
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I've found the LED flash to be basically useless for taking pictures. Everytime I try to use it in a dark environment, the shutter speeds are too slow and the picture is both horribly overexposed and there is motion blur as well.
I understand there is no pre-flash firing to lock focus, but the camera should be smart enough to bump up shutter speed to actually take a usable picture in the dark with flash.
Does everyone's camera do this?
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I've found the LED flash to be basically useless for taking pictures. Everytime I try to use it in a dark environment, the shutter speeds are too slow and the picture is both horribly overexposed and there is motion blur as well.
I understand there is no pre-flash firing to lock focus, but the camera should be smart enough to bump up shutter speed to actually take a usable picture in the dark with flash.
Does everyone's camera do this?
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Mine takes awesome pictures, even in complete darkness.
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I've found the LED flash to be basically useless for taking pictures. Everytime I try to use it in a dark environment, the shutter speeds are too slow and the picture is both horribly overexposed and there is motion blur as well.
I understand there is no pre-flash firing to lock focus, but the camera should be smart enough to bump up shutter speed to actually take a usable picture in the dark with flash.
Does everyone's camera do this?
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Camera works great, it's no DSLR but it's just as good or better than any point and shoot i've ever owned. As far as the flash goes only time pictures are overexposed is when you are too close and try and use the flash. Cameras can't work miracles. If it's too dark for you to see your subject then it's too dark for the camera to see it as well and the pictures will look bad on any camera. As long as the lighting is reasonable the pictures come out great.
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Mine takes awesome pictures, even in complete darkness.
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might be a problem with the OPs flash
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I understand there is no pre-flash
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If you use a led widget, it will stay on before, during, and after the shot but it is not as bright as the camera flash brightness.
supdawg said:
I've found the LED flash to be basically useless for taking pictures. Everytime I try to use it in a dark environment, the shutter speeds are too slow and the picture is both horribly overexposed and there is motion blur as well.
I understand there is no pre-flash firing to lock focus, but the camera should be smart enough to bump up shutter speed to actually take a usable picture in the dark with flash.
Does everyone's camera do this?
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Mine seems to work ok it can actually take a decent picture in complete darkness
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Jykinturah said:
Mine takes awesome pictures, even in complete darkness.
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Mine seems to work ok it can actually take a decent picture in complete darkness
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what are your settings cause mine look crappy as well? met my favorite band and took pics and they all came out crappy.. luckly i had my canon camera as a backup but after one picture the bastard died.. if my phone was taking nice pics i could have had a collection of awesome memories
This is a typical picture taken with my camera in very low lighting with flash.
As you can see the picture is horribly overexposed. All I did was take the raw file an upload to imageshack with a slight crop.
Is this typical? Or do I have a defective camera? Camera takes good pictures in good light, but flash pictures are terrible.
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Its a flashlight... Duh
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This is a typical picture taken with my camera in very low lighting with flash.
As you can see the picture is horribly overexposed. All I did was take the raw file an upload to imageshack with a slight crop.
Is this typical? Or do I have a defective camera? Camera takes good pictures in good light, but flash pictures are terrible.
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Lower the brightness when you take pictures that close with the flash. It will help a LOT.
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Lower the brightness when you take pictures that close with the flash. It will help a LOT.
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Thanks for the tip. I tried to recreate the picture at -2 & -3 exposures.
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While lowering the exposure helps a bit, the pictures still look extremely soft to me (looks like the shutter speed was too low/motion blur).
I understand this phone won't produce DSLR quality pictures (I own a Canon 450D for that). However, I would like to get usable pictures with flash. To me, even at -3 exposure, these pictures are pretty bad.
Subject was about 4-5 feet away.
TIA
i think it's because the camera doesn't pre-light and focus before hitting the shutter, it just "focuses" in complete darkness then lights up the flash and takes the picture with an out of focus subject. Best way is to use a flashlight app to light it up, focus, then turn off the flashlight and take the pic
It's better than not having flash and not many companies are willing to go to the added expense (as well as sacrifice more space) of a xenon flash.
Just wanted to know if this was typical? Can someone post a pic of a person using flash in low light with flash?
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I took some pictures at night during the Fourth of July and the daytime pictures came out much better than my 10.1MP point and shoot, the camera is also about 5X faster, so I didn't miss nearly as many shots as my GF using my P&S.
Night time pictures on both cameras were also mediocre. Like someone here already said, if you can't see the person very well in low light, then the camera won't either. As soon as the flash goes off it flushes the area with light. Honestly, I think you are expecting a little much from a cellphone camera. Compared to every other camera I have owned (not owned a DSLR) this camera trumps both phones and P&S cameras.
Good luck, but I think your comparing apples and oranges seeing as you own a DSLR. Most phones don't even have a flash.
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I took some pictures at night during the Fourth of July and the daytime pictures came out much better than my 10.1MP point and shoot, the camera is also about 5X faster, so I didn't miss nearly as many shots as my GF using my P&S.
Night time pictures on both cameras were also mediocre. Like someone here already said, if you can't see the person very well in low light, then the camera won't either. As soon as the flash goes off it flushes the area with light. Honestly, I think you are expecting a little much from a cellphone camera. Compared to every other camera I have owned (not owned a DSLR) this camera trumps both phones and P&S cameras.
Good luck, but I think your comparing apples and oranges seeing as you own a DSLR. Most phones don't even have a flash.
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That's a fair assessment. I just thought that this camera could do what every point and shoot camera I've owned for the past 10 years could do. Take a sharp picture in a dark environment using flash.
And I've owned a phone with a flash before (Touch Pro). I cannot remember if it exhibited the same behavior, though.
I just don't think it's too much to ask for a camera to expose properly and give sufficient shutter speed to take sharp pictures while using the flash. I love having the LED's for flashlight purposes, I simply question it's functionality/usability as a part of the camera.
I am not talking about physical limitations of the sensor. The sensor is capable of doing it, but it just needs to be improved software wise by HTC. I understand there will be noise and grain in this type of sensor. I just want sharp photos that don't have all of their highlights blown all to hell on 0 EV compensation.
The exposure compensation setting at -3 to take is a real PITA considering its just not FEV, so I imagine even daytime shots would come out underexposed if you forget to switch back.
I just hope HTC does something to improve this camera/video camera. It's too nice of hardware for it to under perform the way it does.
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Can you post a picture of someone taken about 5 feet away using flash in a dark environment? If you dont feel comfortable doing that on the forum, you could PM me.
I could look at your picture to see if it has the same problems as mine does.
easy fix take it. back and a ip4 it has a "better camera".
my camera takes great pics in the dark
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Sporkman said:
easy fix take it. back and a ip4 it has a "better camera".
my camera takes great pics in the dark
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To answer your question, yes these are typical results for a photo taken in complete darkness. The Evo, while pretty good for a cell phone camera, is comparable in quality to a cheap P&S camera (to me it looks slightly better than my wife's old Canon A430, but noticeably worse than my Canon SX100). There's nothing wrong with your phone.
Let's gather our photo examples with m9+ camera. Go into detail which base it was shot on which photo app.
Discuss tricks and tips if any occurs to your mind.
In my opinion the m9+ camera comes short on the Auto focus speed part, and also keeping focus in low light conditions faces some problems resulting in some often blurriness (I'm sure we all know that hTC needs to improve with the camera part in general, I loved how snappy M7's camera was, but M9+ and as I've heard M9's camera is not as snappy as predecessors were and top notch competitors like LG G3 laser focus is).
While outside, in day light, the pictures are generally very good (but that's expected, and luckily m9+ camera meets the expectation IMHO). But let's discuss this further, opinions matter.
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The camera is terrible.
I loved the M7's camera, and my wife's M8 takes very good looking pictures ans well despite the low resolution.
Unfortunately the M9+'s camera is terrible. Can't take any good indoors pictures of my daughter anymore.
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The camera is terrible.
I loved the M7's camera, and my wife's M8 takes very good looking pictures ans well despite the low resolution.
Unfortunately the M9+'s camera is terrible. Can't take any good indoors pictures of my daughter anymore.
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Yeah, indoor is very hard to handle, I need to try 2-4 times to get one good, and mostly with flash, no other way.
On the other side, outdoor images are really nice compared to m7 (i had m7 before too). So there's a down and an up-side. Unfortunately it'd be possible to create a camera that's good inside as well, looking at LG G3's photos by my friend, I'm saying, wow, that's good and without flash...
HDR / without HDR with stock camera on 1.61 European base. If your hand is shaky you can get some blur with HDR. I like the result image's details and range, but it doesn't work too well for stitching the different dynamics images into a solid exact match. Hopefully this can get better with software updates.
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HDR
Some macro shots.
And a bit of experience: I'm starting to be content with the device's camera. I've put the ISO cap to 200 and varied with Sharpness a bit, and starting to get good results inside with flash. I could shoot some very nice interior low light photos with the flash, and also there's a huge difference in selfies with the ultrapixel in dusk/dark. M9+ and M9 might seem like a camera underdog, but i'm starting to get the hang of it and it gives better results with some care. Also now lowered the Make up level of the photo postprocess to 0 and it's now super fast to snap photos, i wasn't sure what Make up level was for, now I see that I can speed up the snapping by lowering it, and not too much difference in the resulting images.
Some, imho quite good close-ups. (Good light conditions but not too direct light on the first image, and the second one before sunset.) I'm pleased
So my verdict is: while focusing is not the greatest, you can adjust a few things to make taking pictures snappier and better (Make up level to 0, and cap ISO to 200 for normal day time photos, and vary with sharpness to your taste)
Thanks, will give it a try
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This is what I took last evening using the Snapchat app.
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Some more close ups. I'm still pleased with outdoors capturing. Not the best I've seen in average, but some images are really showing off the 20 Megapixel goodness.
Some HD video:
https://goo.gl/photos/5KnS6ZLk4ivjWJjWA
The camera performance at very low light is surprisingly poor, though increasing shutter speeds to about 1/2 second can give good results for inanimate objects. I've tried one in ultra low light, and wasn't unhappy with the results. Indoor photos aren't bad, try capping the iso to 200. Outdoor close ups and macros are BEAUTIFUL. The camera locks focus fast and very well. I guess over time the improvements that the M9 has got will make their way here as well.
NOTE: THE LAST-BUT-ONE IMAGE WAS TAKEN UNDER REALLY LOW LIGHT, SEE THE LAST IMAGE FOR THE BACKGROUND.
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I recently bought my M9+ and comparing it with my M8, here is my quick verdict (note that this is for AUTO MODE):
1. Better photos captured in daylight. Better coz it's of higher res but i prefer the "quality" of photos on my m8. M8 photos are more vivid, deeper contrast and sharper in AUTO mode.
The m9+ seems to have softer images and sometimes look dull.
2. Auto focus is about the same BUT the saving time is Soooo slowww on the m9+! Is it because the photos are larger? I dont know.
3. Shaky hands (even just a little bit) is a big NO if you use the m9+. What's happening HTC!? The m7 and m8 can handle minimum to moderate hand shakes but this!!!! @(%[email protected]$
This should've been mitigated if they have included OIS. I'm wondering who is doing all the decisions for their hardware.
4. Forget about lowlight unless you are a fan of using led flash. To be fair, the m9+ takes good photos with no flash bleed. I'm not sure why on some review websites, the photos tend to be overexposed. This is NOT the case in real life.
5. Video stabilization is not good at all. Well, everybody knows that by now. However, i don't think the m8 has GREAT video stabilizer. I also had moto X 2014 and xperia z3 compact and there is no way HTC can beat them in video.
However, the rear ultrapixel cam in the m8 is GREAT in lowlight. So what is left with the m9+. Lol.
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Selfie camera. Here is where the m9+ shines the most.
1. The front ultrapixel camera ie AWESOME. hands down on this. It beats the m8's front cam 100% of the time.
2. However, the field of view on the m9+ is narrower than the m8. I am a fan of grp shots and now some of my friends are getting cut of. We have to compress just so everyone can fit in. The m8 has a very wide angle lens.. even the galaxy s6. Dont get me wrong, the front cam of the m9+ is also wide but i expected it to be the same as the m8. Note that the m8 has THE widest front cam lens than any other phone out there.
Low light capture might improve, if the updates given to the M9 find their way to our phones as well. I personally am fine with the colors- this camera's colour reproduction is fine.
Capture and save time isn't long... in fact I was surprised by its speed. It may be because I shoot in 10:7 medium res.
I must add that shots in 10:7 are way better than those in 16:9 because the camera's native resolution is 10:7.
And yeah image stabilization on this phone sucks.
P.S : I don't seem to have focusing problems in most situations unlike the others out here. Focus is fast and clean.
Another shot I got:
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I took this last evening at dusk.
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The images you post guys look fantastic. Since using this new phone, I've gone back and compared photos with my old m7 gallery and OPO. I even compared to LG g3 photos with the fantastic laser focus. And that m7 or m8 is better might be true for some cases, like how snappy it worked on those m7s and m8s, but I'm just blown away by the color precision of m9+. In auto mode they look exactly like in real life, no over saturation, which I find a bad thing on cameras... on m7 I had all kinds of artifacts and auras in daylight photos if someone was in bright colored t shirts etc... in most conditions, except low light, it's my best Cam experience so far, and I had a few phones and compact cameras too. In low light with moving people on the scene photos, I use the flash and get over with it... it's a dream to have perfect no blur no artifact no noise images in dark. Even if ultrapixel is quite good to gather light, exceptional in that, in near dark it will have noise in the end. So end of the story: it's still one of the best cameras today, even if it could be better with laser focus (which is blazing fast and precise at following).
Who had speed issue, check Makeup level. If you cranked it up, it will be slow. And not much added value compared to just having it on zero by my experience
Last night I took this photo of the moon... it was possible only due to the manual mode. For clear moon photos, you need VERY high shutter speeds, at least 1/500th of a second. The moon was hazy due to cloud cover, and I feel that it impacted image quality. However the image isn't bad.
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Not at all bad, instead quite good. Wow
Hey guys! Having a problem focusing on a subject (i.e., not able focus at all)?
Simple: use manual focus(in the manual mode) instead! It works well, in my experience. This improves my opinion of this camera further! Please see attached pics.
Final lowdown: The camera is amazing in well lit conditions, decent in moderately lit conditions and poor in low lit conditions. But shoot in the camera's native 10:7 aspect (and I prefer "medium res" (16MP)).
PS : The grains on photos on the objects in lowly lit scenarios are probably due to a lossy compression algorithm, just as seen on the regular M9.
PPS : I tried to contact HTC about whether we'll get a raw camera update (which should technically reduce the low light problems that we face currently). They said that they wouldn't reveal any info about that topic. :banghead:
Edit to previous post: even the macro mode is good for close ups, which is usually when I have focusing problems.
The following the posts are in the order:
AUTO:
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MANUAL :
I also forgot to mention, lower the sharpness to -1/-1.5 in low light and -0.5/-1 in good light as HTC's camera has loved over sharpening since a long time, including phones like the Desire. This is following the advice from the M9 thread, which works on this phone as well.
What else do I need for a cozy excursion and casual photos without and with HDR? Not much more, but exactly an HTC m9+ (not full resolution images this time, I'm away from PC)
Took these last last night and they all look good.
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Helo guys em new to this community...yeasterday i got my LG G6 ( India) ever since i took it out of the box everything was fine except the camera...The pictures seems soo grainy & full of noise...Even in the indoor lighting conditions...I was in the impression that LG g6 camera is one of the best.But my front cam tooks pictures even worst than a VGA camera phone . I havnt got any update since yesterday my software details are as follow: Android version 7.0....Build Num NRD90U....Software version V10K-IND-XX
Please suggest a fix if anybody knows...
Try the google camera and post some pics from your g6
https://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g6/how-to/google-camera-hdr-ported-g6-t3655374
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Helo guys em new to this community...yeasterday i got my LG G6 ( India) ever since i took it out of the box everything was fine except the camera...The pictures seems soo grainy & full of noise...Even in the indoor lighting conditions...I was in the impression that LG g6 camera is one of the best.But my front cam tooks pictures even worst than a VGA camera phone . I havnt got any update since yesterday my software details are as follow: Android version 7.0....Build Num NRD90U....Software version V10K-IND-XX
Please suggest a fix if anybody knows...
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Try outdoor first to evaluate the camera quality with good lighting.
Indoor is subjective. Were you using a flash? What types of light, florescent, incandescent or LED?
Ajayrokr said:
Helo guys em new to this community...yeasterday i got my LG G6 ( India) ever since i took it out of the box everything was fine except the camera...The pictures seems soo grainy & full of noise...Even in the indoor lighting conditions...I was in the impression that LG g6 camera is one of the best.But my front cam tooks pictures even worst than a VGA camera phone . I havnt got any update since yesterday my software details are as follow: Android version 7.0....Build Num NRD90U....Software version V10K-IND-XX
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Were you trying with wide Angle? Because, wide angle sometimes get grainy..
Check camera settings they are set for lower resolutions from factory
Hello, i've got same trouble. Selfies in low light (even some front picture) looks like "aquarel" filter...
Im french and have a LG H870
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I feel the same
got mine last week and i cannot make a decent shot with auto, even my old Iphone6 is more capable of making a good shot.
Indoors is terrible, like a oil painting and most of the time not sharp.
I dont get it, did i got a Lemon? I will try some time but if this is not getting better i will send it back. Besides that i like the phone, feels good but i will not have a phone where the camera sucks / the automode sucks. Which is the same for me, because i just want to snap pics and not work on dials (for this i have my dslr) . And coming from a Sony z3c, which also was a fine phone except the camera, the iphone is just meant as a substitute, i dont see the point in keeping that thing.
Aye, aye aye, at least the good thing is that it was not that expensive
Low light photos on the G6 are poor. Nothing wrong with your phone, its just the sensor that was used. Gcam doesn't really help, IMHO. Don't try to zoom in too much and you won't notice the noise in the photo too much.
I also notice that the G6 camera is not that thing there, but I noticed that when taking a photo with the phone as still as possible they are better. My problem is the videos that are shaking a lot, especially at night.
Well this is something I haven't seen on smartphone photos yet. This is low light photo and I tried to keep phone as steady as possible. So there is quite nice details on the background, but very, very heavy processing in the area that contain movement. Is it the sensor or camera app itself that does this? It is like only certain areas of the photo are processed more than the rest.
I have almost same problem, with the main/frontal camera on LG G6 (LS 993) Sprint.
All execpt the camera working good.
I'm looking on my photo and i want to cry.
First of all i have tried to use my standard camera, then i used google cam and other soft - no result.
Maybe some1 knows how to fix this problem. brgds
You are encountering the limits of a cellphone camera. Very low light, combined with a small sensor, high ISO and low shutter speed=crappy photo. You can't defeat the laws of optics. In the lighting conditions of the photo in the snow, you would have to have a good SLR camera to capture action shots with any clarity.
Indeed.
Also be aware that of the 3 G6 cameras, only the rear standard one is even remotely capable of acceptable image quality in low light.
The ultra-wide is slow (f/2.4), unstabilized, and on some devices downright broken.
Front cam is simply not very good.
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You are encountering the limits of a cellphone camera. Very low light, combined with a small sensor, high ISO and low shutter speed=crappy photo. You can't defeat the laws of optics. In the lighting conditions of the photo in the snow, you would have to have a good SLR camera to capture action shots with any clarity.
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I know the limits of smartphone camera. But the interesting thing in my sample photo is that there is jpeg processing in only PARTS of the image. There is quite good amount of details in those parts which did not have any movement (by the object and by the device).
Yes I see what you mean. The processing artifacts seem to be concentrated on the edges of the figure. My guess is that the software is detecting the blurry edges and attempting to "sharpen", unsuccessfully.
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I know the limits of smartphone camera. But the interesting thing in my sample photo is that there is jpeg processing in only PARTS of the image. There is quite good amount of details in those parts which did not have any movement (by the object and by the device).
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About the front camera "issues":
if your selfies look like this:
- that's normal. my camera does the same thing (in all camera apps), I really have to edit the sh*t out of them in Photoshop to get acceptable results
I saw someone calling it an aquamarell effect and yup, that's exactly it
Really don't know what the hell is the issue with that sensor, I didn't think that 5mp pics would ever look that blurry lol
I was wondering about the camera quality right when I read that the sensor's pixel size is merely 1.12 µm, which is actually the lowest I ever saw in a mid-range to high-end phone. The standard is 1.4 µm, my 2 years old Nexus 5X even has 1.55 µm, which easily compensates for the smaller aperture of f/2.0 compared to f/1.8 in the L6.
The bigger the pixels on the sensor, the more light information (e.g. brightness, colors) they can capture. That's also the reason why it's better to have less pixels in total (e.g. 12 MP instead of 16 MP), giving each single pixel more space to capture light, especially on such small sensors.
So the low-light performance of this camera comes as no suprise to me.
This actually kept my from buying the L6, which I otherwise liked when I held it in my hands.
From my experience the pictures are ok/good, but the video done indoor is really poor, I have a strange feeling, that my old G2 made better videos....
@simeoni,
about your low light photo. It is possible that the smudged area around the moving object is because the phone camera is taking more than one image similar to the hdr process so it can eliminate the noise, it is possible that this is the hdr itself if it is turned on. This is because the area around the moving object as well as the object itself has less info recorded for the same pixels from the image (as it was shot in one image not few like usually the hdr or low light noise reduction images are done for good quality) and thats why is not looking that sharp.
Sorry my english is not native and i am not sure if i explained it good enough. For reference check how HDR and/or image stacking noice reduction work.
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I compare samsung note 4 photo vs lg g6 and I can say.... note 4 win in all ways in photo quality. Ofc dont have ultra wide buuut? Collor , sharpness, noise ? Note 4 win. I own lg g6+ h870dsu
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Huawei P30 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Hi everyone. Any camera improvements over Mate 20 Pro?
No sample photo here?
It's hard to find one even in youtube since all attention goes to the Pro version...
On my Channel you can find a review (but in german)
youtube.com/mobilejack
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Hi everyone. Any camera improvements over Mate 20 Pro?
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Hi. To be honest, camera improvements over Mate 20 Pro is minimal. I own this phone right now as well as Pixel 3 XL. Previously had Mate 20 Pro for 4 month. I expected much better and more consistent shots compared to Mate 20 Pro. But it is not the case here unfortunately. Hit and miss is still the proper description of camera experience. Sure the phone is able to produce really nice photos but heaps of crappy ones popping up too (over-, underexposed, overcontrasted, out of focus...). I wish that P30 would be better than Pixel 3 XL in camera department at least and I'd finally ditch the last one.
At the same time I'd recommend P30 (non-Pro) over Mate 20 Pro due to slightly better (warm) camera tone to my test, more comfortable size, much better fingerprint scanner, flat (!) screen, better speakers (even not stereo ones), headphone jack. Wireless charging can be added for extra $50 via quite nice official Huawei wireless charging case.
P30 Lite cam test
Selfie cam quality seems a bit iffy, says 32MP but more often than not I get a worse quality image than my 8MP selfie cam on the S9 gave, similarity the 40MP setting for the rear cam I can see no difference between 10MP and 40MP, I took a photo across the room of a label on a box, zoomed in on 10MP and 40MP and they were both exactly the same as each other in terms of quality and readability, only difference I see is you lose some options with 40MP such as zoom
Focus seems fairly bad too, it borders my face to say it knows my face is there but when I check the photo it has actually focussed on something behind me or my top or something other than my face, which is slightly OOF compared
In bright sunlight the 10MP rear cam takes great pics, low light is clever but not great quality, seems like Huawei spent too much of their time adding features and gimmicks than actually making sure everything basic worked properly first
That yellowish tint is horrible. When the light is a little bit worse it appears... What is intresting - on ultra wide mode it looks much more normally, no yellow tint, colors look more realistic. My HTC 10 from 2016 do much more realistic shots and the quality is much more stable on its camera. Have you the same look on your cameras?
And imo photos are very unstable, sometimes great, sometimes sucks, low sharpness, yellow tint, candy colors, dont like it. On selfie cam at least it looks very good for me.
I don't know what's wrong with your camera. I have a HTC U11 with GCam installed, (was my previous phone) and i like to compare very often the camera side by side and for daytime they look pretty similar, sometimes i prefer the P30, sometimes U11, but on low light, there's no contest, the P30 is way ahead, as it should be. And for the consistency, we have to accept that the lack of OIS means we have to be a little more careful when we take pictures.
Hey, thanks for answer. Dont know how about u11, but i found in my HTC 10 more softness image, in p30 looks a litttle bit grainy when you zoom photo you made. Have u seen that too? Yeah, in good light the same opinion : one time htc, one time p30. But when im in the building, room etc. p30 begins to give yellow shade. Maybe ill upload some shots later to compare.
In low light sometimes shots loks unreal lighty, but sometimes camera makes perfect job
I uploaded some shots :
First are the night shots : one the most realistic regulated manualy, one in auto, one in night mode - auto and night mode looks so unreal, dont like it.
Next in room : one in auto, one on ultra wide mode which gives much more realistic colors, on auto that yellowish tint.
And shots from work one on auto which gives yellow tints, and one on 3x tele which looks much more realistic (the tiles color) than auto.
Huawei made alot of intrested things, but they didnt paid enough attention and work on main camera in my opinion.
https://ibb.co/QJ2K294 - auto, turned light down manually
https://ibb.co/xYfS0hX - night mode (wtf?)
https://ibb.co/kMmw9WP - auto (wtf?)
https://ibb.co/fGWk39t - auto (wtf?)
https://ibb.co/xXTM5GX - zoom x3
https://ibb.co/pjnXSpN - auto (wtf?)
https://ibb.co/5hVx4k1 - wide-angle
This camera seems to take better shots in monochrome than colour
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Hello. Can anybody compare P20 PRO with P30 (not pro) in camera quality? I have had P20 Pro for a moment but "hit and miss" camera quality, especially for fast moving objects (children) forced me to sell it. Now I am thinking about P30 (not pro), but if it doesn't have OIS can I expect real any improvement in camera quality?
OIS or not you won't find much if any difference with either of those, they take too much time to process the photo once u press the shutter hence the hit or miss
This is odd. My three years old HTC U11 have IMHO better photo recurrence as P20 PRO (more hits nor miss). Also less images were blurred with U11 like with P20 PRO.
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Hello. Can anybody compare P20 PRO with P30 (not pro) in camera quality? I have had P20 Pro for a moment but "hit and miss" camera quality, especially for fast moving objects (children) forced me to sell it. Now I am thinking about P30 (not pro), but if it doesn't have OIS can I expect real any improvement in camera quality?
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Not so big difference in cameras !
OIS and EIS both both work together for better image processing!
P30 screen size is perfect for me !
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Like most of you I had much bigger expectation from P30 camera, but I am totally disappointed specially when found out cannot shoot in RAW, now I wish I went with my initial guts feeling and purchased the LG
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Like most of you I had much bigger expectation from P30 camera, but I am totally disappointed specially when found out cannot shoot in RAW, now I wish I went with my initial guts feeling and purchased the LG
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witch LG?
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Like most of you I had much bigger expectation from P30 camera, but I am totally disappointed specially when found out cannot shoot in RAW, now I wish I went with my initial guts feeling and purchased the LG
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Hi. I've just get the unit today. It was exynos and I find out the camera was truly bad at dim condition. Even when comparing s20 ultra to note 9, the note 9 picture was much better. I have update my s20 ultra firmware to the latest from Samsung.
Look at the face. The s20 ultra result was having what looks like compression artifact. But it's right out of the camera without any editing. This only happen in dim condition. And also this happens to face only since other than face there's no artifact at all.
S20 ULTRA
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well for one thing it's blurry from the head moving. Second i agree it looks like $hit (no offense to your baby!)
I have no advice other than to say it's unbelievable we could pay $1400 for such an unfinished product..steadily I am losing more and more faith in samsung. At least you were able to get the camera to focus!
We all have similar issues and I think that all of us waiting for the next SW update are customers with a lot of faith. At least Samsung admitted it and if they cannot fix it with the next update then probably most of the phones will be returned.
did you know the 108 megapixel is not on by default? youll have to change the aspect ratio and before you take a picture it should show from the settings which megapixel you are using.
Same. It's very blurry / grainy (yet unnecessarily oversharpened) at the same time in low indoor lighting.
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At least Samsung admitted it and if they cannot fix it with the next update then probably most of the phones will be returned.
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Can you link me?
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did you know the 108 megapixel is not on by default? youll have to change the aspect ratio and before you take a picture it should show from the settings which megapixel you are using.
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What? The post has nothing to do with (and no mention of) the 108mp mode.
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Can you link me?
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They didn't admit anything. It was I think a Twitter post that said something like "Samsung is committed to delivering the best experience for their customers, blah blah blah constantly working to improve experiences for everyone."
It was generic like that
There was an answer to The Verge that they will work on to deliver the best camera experience. Yes it was generic but camera oriented and it is good that they responded.
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did you know the 108 megapixel is not on by default? youll have to change the aspect ratio and before you take a picture it should show from the settings which megapixel you are using.
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I'm not talking about the 108mpx. Also the 108mpx didn't help with the pict quality.
For now the only solution is to use pro mode.
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I'm not talking about the 108mpx. Also the 108mpx didn't help with the pict quality.
For now the only solution is to use pro mode.
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Have you turned off bixby scene optimizer? Watched a YT video earlier that claimed turning it off gets rid of the awful skin smoothing effects.
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Have you turned off bixby scene optimizer? Watched a YT video earlier that claimed turning it off gets rid of the awful skin smoothing effects.
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Yes I've try it. No luck at all. The skin smoothing still happening
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Yes I've try it. No luck at all. The skin smoothing still happening
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I did a pic of myself after the ATBM update and my skin colour was the same as when I turned my head 90 degrees to the side. There was also no smoothing and I could see my pores and other natural stuff
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I did a pic of myself after the ATBM update and my skin colour was the same as when I turned my head 90 degrees to the side. There was also no smoothing and I could see my pores and other natural stuff
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Did you use your selfie or the main sensor?
If you are using main sensor, could you try using auto mode and Pro mode and share the result to here? Also cna you snap your picture in dim area, since I notice the processing occurred in a dim area was more aggressive than on a bright area.
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Did you use your selfie or the main sensor?
If you are using main sensor, could you try using auto mode and Pro mode and share the result to here? Also cna you snap your picture in dim area, since I notice the processing occurred in a dim area was more aggressive than on a bright area.
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I have used the main sensor and it was at work during day time with not bad light conditions. I will give it a try in light dimmed area and give you feedback.
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I have used the main sensor and it was at work during day time with not bad light conditions. I will give it a try in light dimmed area and give you feedback.
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Thanks. And also try move your head slightly when you snap the photo. I'm interested on the result.
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Thanks. And also try move your head slightly when you snap the photo. I'm interested on the result.
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This. I noticed in your first picture the hair on your child's head is blurry. I have a feeling what happened is there was motion in the photo and in trying to fix the motion created all of the weird artifact effect. you'll notice the hair from your note 9 photo is sharp and clear, likely because there was no motion while the photo was taken.
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This. I noticed in your first picture the hair on your child's head is blurry. I have a feeling what happened is there was motion in the photo and in trying to fix the motion created all of the weird artifact effect. you'll notice the hair from your note 9 photo is sharp and clear, likely because there was no motion while the photo was taken.
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The movement was indeed making the artifact worsen. But it also happen in no movement condition.
S20 ultra bad image processing
In this pict, the baby wasn't moving much (minimal movement) .
Movement make it worse.
This picture was in very bright room, the child wasn't moving and the artefact still happening, and take a look at the woman on the background. The artefact was really annoying
Yes I agree. I just took a photo of the news on TV and the anchors faces look like oil painting. How could Samsung have screwed up this badly...it's really unbelievable. And how more people aren't making afuss, I also don't understand.
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Yes I agree. I just took a photo of the news on TV and the anchors faces look like oil painting. How could Samsung have screwed up this badly...it's really unbelievable. And how more people aren't making afuss, I also don't understand.
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Yeah, I don't know what's going with the silence.
For now I'm using the pro mode with all settings set to auto. This way the picture processing won't happen and the picture was very good.
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The movement was indeed making the artifact worsen. But it also happen in no movement condition.
S20 ultra bad image processing
In this pict, the baby wasn't moving much (minimal movement) .
Movement make it worse.
This picture was in very bright room, the child wasn't moving and the artefact still happening, and take a look at the woman on the background. The artefact was really annoying
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It seems that the artifacts come from very bad hdr stitching. Try to take some photos with scene optimiser and hdr off, although it would probably make very little difference. The reason some other phones like pixel and iPhone cand take better shots of moving subjects is because they use something called zero shutter combined with a faster shutter. It means that the phone takes a lot of pictures before the picture is taken. Now, Samsung also uses a buffer since s9 with dedicated dram for the camera but probably is much lower and their hdr stiching is not as smart as Google's for example (accounting for movement in the frame). After all this time you'd think Samsung would figure this out but not many companies do this sadly). Also the big sensor that gathers more light should allow the phone to use faster shutter and bigger iso without introducing much more noise ala huwei.