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I'm starting to be alienated from Android

I've been using Android since 2011 but I'm not happy with it. It always looked like laggy to me but I always didn't care.
Now I'm with HTC One and I'm not happy again. Apps, customization options, etc. are amazing but, even after reading tons of person's "This phone i very smooth, stable" I just can't find this phone smooth or stable nor Android OS. When I install a rom (with fully wipe of course), 1 or 2 day I satisfy with it, it starts to lag, and late responses etc.
I hate IOS either but still, after usign my brothers iphone for a minute, I hate from my phone.
But I don't want to leave Android. When I need to buy a new phone, I always select Android ones because I always believed that the next one will be much more smoother because of new processors etc. but even with the 2013's flagship phone, it hasn't happened yet. (at least for me) :laugh:
What are yours comments??
Note: I didn't open this thread to blame on Android. I just wondered yours comments.

serkanhiziroglu1998 said:
I've been using Android since 2011 but I'm not happy with it. It always looked like laggy to me but I always didn't care.
Now I'm with HTC One and I'm not happy again. Apps, customization options, etc. are amazing but, even after reading tons of person's "This phone i very smooth, stable" I just can't find this phone smooth or stable nor Android OS. When I install a rom (with fully wipe of course), 1 or 2 day I satisfy with it, it starts to lag, and late responses etc.
I hate IOS either but still, after usign my brothers iphone for a minute, I hate from my phone.
But I don't want to leave Android. When I need to buy a new phone, I always select Android ones because I always believed that the next one will be much more smoother because of new processors etc. but even with the 2013's flagship phone, it hasn't happened yet. (at least for me) :laugh:
What are yours comments??
Note: I didn't open this thread to blame on Android. I just wondered yours comments.
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What rom are you using? And what apps? My HTC One is plenty smooth

That's how I was with my old phone. You just need to look up phone statistics and read reviews online. A good phone at a decent price. Don't buy a used or referbished. I agree though. Android isn't the best, but it does get me through my needs.
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HiddenSanctum said:
What rom are you using? And what apps? My HTC One is plenty smooth
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Firstly thank you for your answer.
I tried tons of roms including ARHD, Insertcoin, GPE Roms, CM. Now I'm with InsertCoin and ElementalX (tried stock kernel too) and after 2 days I got laggy again. I think its not important for me anymore because whenever I ask a question about smoothness I get answers like apps, roms and I try them. I don't install any apps more than 10. Apps I install are generic apps like Twiitter, WhatsApp, TitaniumBackup, Cache cleaner.

Scripts said:
That's how I was with my old phone. You just need to look up phone statistics and read reviews online. A good phone at a decent price. Don't buy a used or referbished. I agree though. Android isn't the best, but it does get me through my needs.
Sent from ALCATEL One Touch Fierce
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I got One after watching tons of reviews and its said that its a fast phone. I think I'm obsessed with this smoothness expectation from Android because I used Nexus 4 for 4 months too and I wasn't happy with that too. But still, N4 was much more stable than One for me. :laugh:

I think I know what you're talking about. The phone seems perfectly fast after you install a new rom but then it slows down a lot over time. I have had the same issue with my One and my older S2. But now my phone seems to be really fast all the time with the 4.4.2 GPE. It's a stock ROM but I added some of my own stuff to it. I've been on the same rom for about 2 or 3 weeks now and it seems pretty smooth. Not even the UI stutters anymore. I also used App Ops to fix the battery drain issue with the Kit Kat update and now the phone is perfect. You should try a converting your phone to GPE and see how that is for you. I'm currently very happy with how my phone performs, it ranks high in benchmarks without any overclocking and gets much better battery life as well.

Prophet16 said:
I think I know what you're talking about. The phone seems perfectly fast after you install a new rom but then it slows down a lot over time. I have had the same issue with my One and my older S2. But now my phone seems to be really fast all the time with the 4.4.2 GPE. It's a stock ROM but I added some of my own stuff to it. I've been on the same rom for about 2 or 3 weeks now and it seems pretty smooth. Not even the UI stutters anymore. I also used App Ops to fix the battery drain issue with the Kit Kat update and now the phone is perfect. You should try a converting your phone to GPE and see how that is for you. I'm currently very happy with how my phone performs, it ranks high in benchmarks without any overclocking and gets much better battery life as well.
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To be honest, your phone is probably laggy because you've rooted it and have flashed the software and firmware multiple times. Run a stock HTC One and it's buttery. Any time I root or jailbreak a phone, I regret it after a while because it seems to screw up the device. I had the 4 and 4S, both were jailbroken and were laggy as hell. My HTC One is pretty unresponsive and laggy, but my girlfriends HTC One is perfect. This phone will definitely be the last phone I ever root/jailbreak.

I have an HTC One
Have always wanted to be on Android, but never really got the "right" feeling for it... tried Samsung Galaxy Nexus when it came, later I tried Samsung Galaxy S3 4G. Thought that one would be a sure thing... seemed it was the android phone every one had.... but was really disappointed... most the poor body, and the sound?
Had an iPhone 5 at this point, got it from work as then hit the market. Had used ios devices before too. They where always smooth and worked.
I always did jailbreak my devices, so you could customize a lot.
But did a 3:rd try for Android, with the HTC ONE.
And this time I aint turning back, sure the build quality in apples products is hard to beat, and I like the screen size a bit more. Even if I have big hands I still feel most phones today are 2hands phones, more or less. Anyhow!
HTC ONE, is running really smooth, I have used a couple of roms, back with Viper at the moment with the ElementarX Kernel.
I never feel that my phone is slow or laggy. Using Nova Launcher.
Would like to run a stable CM 10.2 or 11 thou

I think I experienced this on stock ROM, when my phone was new you could say the smoothness gradually decreased as it filled up with rubbish I guess.
But on ARHD 40.3 I haven't had a problem. Been rocking this ROM since 40.3 was released and see no reason to upgrade or change. Happy where I am with performance and battery life.

While I feel that 4.4/KitKat's new ART runtime does help smooth things out compared to Dalvik, I agree that it's not quite on par with iOS. This is just in scrolling action, though. I feel the One is plenty fast when it comes to processing power and touch response time.

I think it all depends on what you are comparing this phone to. My previous phone came out awhile ago, so of course the HTC One feels very smooth for me.
For me, the smoothest rom is vanilla Android, namely GPE. AOSP roms (like CM) seem to stutter when scrolling, such as in the Settings menu.
If you are comparing Android to iOS, however, there was a post a couple of years ago stating that it is because of how Android renders the interface that makes it laggier than iOS. This is not the post itself, but it breaks it down:
http://www.redmondpie.com/heres-why-androids-ui-will-never-be-as-smooth-as-ios-or-windows-phone-7/

in my opinion,
Facebook or 3rd party integration is the problem; un-link facebook account or at least use your phone without internet connection (3G or wifi i mean) for testing.
i am a one user, with stock 4.3 and happy with it

Thread closed,
As this is not directly related to the HTC One and has become a bit of a phone comparison thread, this is classed as an OT thread and has been clsoed. Please see the link in my signature for OT section in XDA. This would be a better place for threads of this type.

Bloody G3 - I need to rant

I know this is going to sound very much like a first world problem, but this phone is frustratingly ****. It is easily the buggiest, slowest, most laggy phone I have ever had.
I have tried just about all the LG based ROMS, only to find that each one, although not buggy, are all laggy. The lag is so bad that it gives my old S2 on Gingerbread a run for its money. At least with Samsung phones, you could get rid of the lag by using a AOSP ROM and it would still be functional.
To solve the frustrating lag issue, I have installed a CM based ROM. At first I was delighted. The lag was gone. The phone was now comparable to my super fast Nexus 5. But after a few hours, I noticed the same bugs that every other CM based ROM user has. Today, I had to restart the phone six times FFS! It is a little more stable on 777 Kernel, but the same issues still persist.
Has anyone achieved bliss with this phone? Is there any ROMS, AOSP or LG based, that are fast, (Nexus 5 fast), and bug free?
Don't get me wrong, I love devs and the work they do. Without them, my old Galaxy phones, (S1, S2, S3, S4), would have been poo. My Nexus 5 would have been boring. (Stock android is meh). I just don't understand why this phone seems to have so many issues. Help me understand why it is so hard to develop a fast and reliable ROM for this phone. I know it isn't from a lack of trying. There is heaps of support and devs working on various ROMS in the G3 threads already and all of them are very talented.
Is it hardware based lag or is there something else inherently wrong with the phone?
Thanks for reading and offering any solutions. I don't want to list the ROMS I have tried, as it will seem like I am an ungrateful twat to those devs that worked so hard. Suffice to say, I have tried all the popular CM/AOSP and LG based ROMS.

Stock 5.0 V20H fine for me no lag [emoji3]

I switched to note 4 whilst g3 was good I had a better experience with my note 3. So upgraded
-= Note 4 & Gear VR =-

hashcheck said:
I switched to note 4 whilst g3 was good I had a better experience with my note 3. So upgraded
-= Note 4 & Gear VR =-
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I don't want to switch so soon. There has to be a solution. I love the screen and size of this phone. The only other phone I would consider is the droid turbo, but it's so bloody expensive!

DoobyDroid said:
Stock 5.0 V20H fine for me no lag [emoji3]
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Compared to what? Which other android phone have you used? In isolation, this phone is barely acceptable. Then, after you use a nexus, HTC or Sony phone, this phone is comparably slow. Almost unusable.
I can't bring myself to try stock again until someone who has other phones to base their claims on can confirm it is lag free.

cubic25 said:
Compared to what? Which other android phone have you used? In isolation, this phone is barely acceptable. Then, after you use a nexus, HTC or Sony phone, this phone is comparably slow. Almost unusable.
I can't bring myself to try stock again until someone who has other phones to base their claims on can confirm it is lag free.
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Have you tried the usual tricks?
1. Swap out the stock launcher for something like Nova or Apex
2. Switch your keyboard to a 3rd party keyboard
While it does suffer from the random stutter, my phone is generally very zippy and does not lag.

Done all that. On stock based ROMS, stutter and lag is unbearable. My wife, nexus 5 user, even commented on how bad it is. I'm actually embarrassed to use the phone in front of people. I know it isn't a hardware issue, because AOSP ROMS are lag free, but not bug free.

Yeah, the phone is nowhere near as quick as a Nexus. The notification bar is also **** compared to stock Lollipop. There are a few tricks I use to improve performance on a stock rom:
1) Turn off throttling/thermal daemon via the service menu.
2) I use setCPU to set the phone to use the "performance" scheduler whenever the screen is on, locking it at 2.5Ghz.
Still isn't perfect, but it helps substantially. Obviously this is in addition to changing the launcher.
It's just one of those things. As you say, CM12 just isn't stable and worryingly seems to be going backwards, getting less and less stable with each passing nightly. The camera is also completely crap on AOSP roms. Nexus devices are great but the N5 is old and the N6 is too big and expensive. The S5 lags too, and while Note 4 is supposed to be good, but I simply won't believe that Touchwiz lag is gone without seeing it with my own eyes. Even if it has gone, Touchwiz remains the ugliest skin I've ever seen. Sony phones are nice, but they aren't packaged anywhere near as tightly as the G3, which is it's biggest strength: 22mm shorter than an iPhone 6+, with the same size screen. That's impressive. HTC's are just ridiculously large for a given screen size. The 1+1 is old now, and doesn't support all LTE bands used in the UK.
There is no perfect phone. Whichever you choose, there are compromises to be made. However IMHO the G3 strikes the best compromise available today, at least once running the latest Lollipop build and with the tweaks I mentioned above applied.

Had most 2014 flagships and G3 is deff fav so far, didnt have KK as updated to LP out the box had little lag after ota but common just needed a factory reset and all good since

Just a tip you can use on any android phone, go to settings, developer options, and set all the animations to 0.5x. This drastically reduces the time the animations take, and it gives a very snappy experience. It makes a LOT of difference, trust me.

No lag whatsoever here. Im running Chupachups newest rom with rin kernel. I've previously owned htc one, lg g2, xperia z1 and this phone definitely outperforms them all.

Ive owned the Xperia Z1, HTC One M7, and tbh id rate this better than both, i would like the battery life to be better my Z1 was amazing for that buh im custom stock rom and i dont get lag, everything is as it should be.

cubic25 said:
I know this is going to sound very much like a first world problem, but this phone is frustratingly ****. It is easily the buggiest, slowest, most laggy phone I have ever had.
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Has anyone achieved bliss with this phone? Is there any ROMS, AOSP or LG based, that are fast, (Nexus 5 fast), and bug free?
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Is it hardware based lag or is there something else inherently wrong with the phone?
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Because LL is still unstable and buggy? And so is any rom based on it?..
Stock firmware sucks because of LG's software - it's very badly written. Almost as bad as touchwiz is. (I used SGS3, trust me on that one...)
AOSP/CM based firmwares are better, but they still suffer due do LL newness. Wait till android 5.1, things may become better.
There is also a hardware issue: unbelievably bad heat management. They used 8974ac, but had not made any cooling system. No radiators, no heat spread throughout the case, and it's facing LCD panel - which is a very bad radiator. GG WP, throttling kick in, phone starts to lag, etc etc etc.

I think there may be problem with your unit... Try to send it back to get a replacement or have it serviced.
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I agree that most of the stock LG-G3 roms, Lollipop/Kitkat, if not rooted and without any mods, LAG is unavoidable. The case is, some people can't root their phones and most of them will try searching why G3 stock rom is lagging... if I'm one of them and I happen to see this post, I would feel bad and feel stupid at the same time why I spend money buying a crappy phone.
Well anyways, try Crash Rom v2.0. It is a stock based ROM like chupachups. The animation is not as fluid as CM but I won't say that it's lagging. Compared to CM, I have not yet encountered any bugs and mostly the camera is better. If you're interested you can also downgrade the resolution to 1080p, this will enhance your g3, 3d and 2d graphics performance.

Hi im all so on lollipop 5.0 updated out of the box and its all good maybe some lag not much to notice. Still no root method yet for stock lollipop 5.0 and i dont want to downgrade to kk so il have patience and wait for new root method for me g3

Wow, I went from the nexus 5, to the htc m8, to the g3 all in year. My advice, play with this one to get the phone lag gone. This by far is the best. Like a previous person said, turn off animations and change the launcher.

mab71 said:
I think there may be problem with your unit... Try to send it back to get a replacement or have it serviced.
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Can't be an issue with the phone, as it is lag free with CM based ROMS.
marfioso said:
I agree that most of the stock LG-G3 roms, Lollipop/Kitkat, if not rooted and without any mods, LAG is unavoidable. The case is, some people can't root their phones and most of them will try searching why G3 stock rom is lagging... if I'm one of them and I happen to see this post, I would feel bad and feel stupid at the same time why I spend money buying a crappy phone.
Well anyways, try Crash Rom v2.0. It is a stock based ROM like chupachups. The animation is not as fluid as CM but I won't say that it's lagging. Compared to CM, I have not yet encountered any bugs and mostly the camera is better. If you're interested you can also downgrade the resolution to 1080p, this will enhance your g3, 3d and 2d graphics performance.
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I'll give crash a go this afternoon and report back. Hopefully 5.1 ROMS fix the issue too.
dspcap said:
Wow, I went from the nexus 5, to the htc m8, to the g3 all in year. My advice, play with this one to get the phone lag gone. This by far is the best. Like a previous person said, turn off animations and change the launcher.
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Already done all that. Animations are turned off, launcher animations are set to lightning fast, CPU throttling is turned off. I've tried all the tricks in the book. Fact is, LG based software is crap, just like Samsung.
So far today, the lock-screen has only frozen on me four times, which is good.
I'm not sure if I'd rather put up with a laggy phone or a buggy phone.

My phone is currently on V20h. Apart from the occasional Home launcher crash, I've not had any lag that I notice of. The last time there was any lag was on V10i. My phone is rooted but is not running any mods.
Prior to this, I've had the Note 3 and Xperia S. Compared to the G3, I would say that the smoothness is at the very least, on par with the Note 3 running on stock.
I've seen people complaining about the G3 being laggy too. Is your phone by any chance the 2 GB RAM version?

My phone is the 2gb version, but I always have at least close to 300mb free. Sometimes I have over 1gb free. Not that it should matter though, as I have read on numerous places that the 3gb version lags too, and that both phones are very close on performance. The extra 1gb of RAM is negligible.
Just flashing Crash ROM now. I think I'm going to regret it though, as I much prefer the look of AOSP anyway.
Ah crap. Just as I flash the ROM, I read that the dev is stopping support for our device. Based on the comments, it looks like a promising ROM.

Describe the phone's performance ....

So I'm looking to buy the Moto G 2014, and every review I've seen so far describes the performance as "OK, Fine, Not bad", even though my sister has a Galaxy S3 Neo (Which is running the same SOC but with a 0.5GB more ram) and the performance is stunning. So what do you think about it ? and if a ROM can make it even a better runner be sure to tell me.
Thanks a million !

Moto G xt1068 will be best in this price range..
It has got a lot of development.

Performance on Stock is fine, but the animations smoothness are crap, partially because Stock is 5.0.2, partially motorola's fault. Install an AOSP ROM (not CM12.1, it has some unnescessary things) and a decent kernel and then the performance will be way better. Its a good performance overall, for a 2013 mid range CPU.
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Thanks guys !! Really appreciate the help !

For what you pay you get better than OK
How much do you think it's ok to spend on extra 0.5gb ram? USD 20-25 I think its ok, but how much I will pay to not have touchwiz on my phone it's priceless.

I'm wondering what people describe as fine. I had a Nexus 5 before and a friend's original Moto G seemed decent, so when mine broke I bought a Moto G (Gen 2.)
I've had it a few weeks and it seems to get laggier and laggier. Most apps take up to a full second to load, there are a couple that take multiple seconds. It often can't keep up with how fast I type and will lag hard so I'll have to stop and wait otherwise it will miss letters or start thinking I'm swiping and just input random words. Most of my friends who have upgraded to lollipop have complained about how laggy it is (but I thought it was supposed to run on even less resources.) What I want to know is, is there actually something wrong or is this the expected performance of a Moto G running lollipop? I'm finding it nearly unusable. I'm just running the stock rom cause it didn't have a skin. Do I need a custom rom for decent performance?

composite_ said:
I'm wondering what people describe as fine. I had a Nexus 5 before and a friend's original Moto G seemed decent, so when mine broke I bought a Moto G (Gen 2.)
I've had it a few weeks and it seems to get laggier and laggier. Most apps take up to a full second to load, there are a couple that take multiple seconds. It often can't keep up with how fast I type and will lag hard so I'll have to stop and wait otherwise it will miss letters or start thinking I'm swiping and just input random words. Most of my friends who have upgraded to lollipop have complained about how laggy it is (but I thought it was supposed to run on even less resources.) What I want to know is, is there actually something wrong or is this the expected performance of a Moto G running lollipop? I'm finding it nearly unusable. I'm just running the stock rom cause it didn't have a skin. Do I need a custom rom for decent performance?
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flash titan prime 1.0.3 beta, it will blow your socks off
https://romhut.com/roms/titan-prime-rom-for-motorola-moto-g-2014-unified

composite_ said:
I'm wondering what people describe as fine. I had a Nexus 5 before and a friend's original Moto G seemed decent, so when mine broke I bought a Moto G (Gen 2.)
I've had it a few weeks and it seems to get laggier and laggier. Most apps take up to a full second to load, there are a couple that take multiple seconds. It often can't keep up with how fast I type and will lag hard so I'll have to stop and wait otherwise it will miss letters or start thinking I'm swiping and just input random words. Most of my friends who have upgraded to lollipop have complained about how laggy it is (but I thought it was supposed to run on even less resources.) What I want to know is, is there actually something wrong or is this the expected performance of a Moto G running lollipop? I'm finding it nearly unusable. I'm just running the stock rom cause it didn't have a skin. Do I need a custom rom for decent performance?
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Stock 5.0.2 Lollipop, doesn't matter if is Titan Prime or Vanilla stock, it will be laggy, because its Android 5.0.2, if you want a decent performance on Lollipop yes, you will need a 5.1.1 Custom ROM, i think AOSP by LuK1337 has a great performance. Or just flash a 4.4.4 ROM (NOT CM11, its a bit more laggy than stock 4.4.4), i'm using PAC 4.4.4, Its not that stable, but it have 60FPS Animations and a great performance.

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Stock 5.0.2 Lollipop, doesn't matter if is Titan Prime or Vanilla stock, it will be laggy, because its Android 5.0.2, if you want a decent performance on Lollipop yes, you will need a 5.1.1 Custom ROM, i think AOSP by LuK1337 has a great performance. Or just flash a 4.4.4 ROM (NOT CM11, its a bit more laggy than stock 4.4.4), i'm using PAC 4.4.4, Its not that stable, but it have 60FPS Animations and a great performance.
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No Sir, you're absolutely wrong. I tried out AOSP, Quantum OS and even PA. Nothing comes close to how smooth Titan Prime is.
I get 20,000+ on antutu without even tweaking the kernel settings. And that says a lot.
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composite_ said:
I'm wondering what people describe as fine. I had a Nexus 5 before and a friend's original Moto G seemed decent, so when mine broke I bought a Moto G (Gen 2.)
I've had it a few weeks and it seems to get laggier and laggier. Most apps take up to a full second to load, there are a couple that take multiple seconds. It often can't keep up with how fast I type and will lag hard so I'll have to stop and wait otherwise it will miss letters or start thinking I'm swiping and just input random words. Most of my friends who have upgraded to lollipop have complained about how laggy it is (but I thought it was supposed to run on even less resources.) What I want to know is, is there actually something wrong or is this the expected performance of a Moto G running lollipop? I'm finding it nearly unusable. I'm just running the stock rom cause it didn't have a skin. Do I need a custom rom for decent performance?
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Hi, I know exactly how you feel. I had a Nexus 5 and a OnePlus One before my G (Gen 2). Especially, after lollipop it had become so laggy, sometimes, I felt like throwing my phone. I rooted and started flashing roms on the G after I got done with college in the first week of April, and I haven't felt frustrated ever again. Great phone, with great development. If you want a rom that is fool proof, download Titan Prime 1.0.3 and use it with Stellar Kernel 5.0. (Also Xposed works perfectly on it)

Frustrating Lag Issues

So, I brought this phone two months ago, and have been using it since. However, I find it not very fun to use as there's always frustrating amounts of lag. (Especially in the UI)
On stock 6.0, the UI is a tad bit laggy, but bearable. However, games stutter. On the other hand, running stock 7.0, the UI is horrendously laggy, while games run fine.
I've tried every custom ROM that I could, but this device still seems to be very laggy when it comes to using it, almost to the point of being completely unusable. I do not leave apps open, and clear the cache often, so I don't know what the issue is. It's too late to return it now, too.
Anything I could do to make my phone usable?
This is disappointing, as even my old Moto E ran faster than this phone.

Gimzie said:
So, I brought this phone two months ago, and have been using it since. However, I find it not very fun to use as there's always frustrating amounts of lag. (Especially in the UI)
On stock 6.0, the UI is a tad bit laggy, but bearable. However, games stutter. On the other hand, running stock 7.0, the UI is horrendously laggy, while games run fine.
I've tried every custom ROM that I could, but this device still seems to be very laggy when it comes to using it, almost to the point of being completely unusable. I do not leave apps open, and clear the cache often, so I don't know what the issue is. It's too late to return it now, too.
Anything I could do to make my phone usable?
This is disappointing, as even my old Moto E ran faster than this phone.
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What defines lag in your book? Sure, there are a couple micro stutters when pulling the notification shade or switching apps, but lag is generally nonexistent. If you've come from a Pixel, S7, 6P, OP3, etc., then yeah, there's definitely a massive difference.
Also, it's definitely possible that your touchscreen may have issues as well.
Finally, I recommend the following ROMs (I've tried nearly all the ROMs here on XDA) for smoothness/battery:
- Beanstalk 7.1.2
- AOSP-CAF (discontinued but still very good)
- JX's Creampie (stock with mods)

negusp said:
What defines lag in your book? Sure, there are a couple micro stutters when pulling the notification shade or switching apps, but lag is generally nonexistent. If you've come from a Pixel, S7, 6P, OP3, etc., then yeah, there's definitely a massive difference.
Also, it's definitely possible that your touchscreen may have issues as well.
Finally, I recommend the following ROMs (I've tried nearly all the ROMs here on XDA) for smoothness/battery:
- Beanstalk 7.1.2
- AOSP-CAF (discontinued but still very good)
- JX's Creampie (stock with mods)
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The lag is mostly long UI stutters, but sometimes it gets really bad, especially on Lineage OS based roms. I have a feeling it's something related to single handed mode, though. I might try beanstalk soon.

Gimzie said:
The lag is mostly long UI stutters, but sometimes it gets really bad, especially on Lineage OS based roms. I have a feeling it's something related to single handed mode, though. I might try beanstalk soon.
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I've recently installed Lineage on my brand new G4, and I honestly think the phone was better off on stock 7.0, as opposed to the custom rom. I'll agree i think the phone i just a bit stuttery/laggy at times.

I managed to make stock a lot faster by removing Greenify. Battery life seems to be better as well.
The problem does still stick around in Lineage-based roms, and I feel like One-handed mode causes this, since you can't turn it off.
EDIT: I prefer having root and all that.

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I managed to make stock a lot faster by removing Greenify. Battery life seems to be better as well.
The problem does still stick around in Lineage-based roms, and I feel like One-handed mode causes this, since you can't turn it off.
EDIT: I prefer having root and all that.
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Just found your post after searching for stutter in connection with one-handed mode. I only recently bought the G4 Plus as a temporary replacement for my broken Pixel and was a bit frustrated. I felt the G4 was quite stuttery, even tried a standard G5 in a store yesterday and thought "wow, that is a lot smoother.. well it just seems the G4 is a bit more stuttery. Today i compared it to my sisters G4 Plus, which was a lot smoother. You could really see the difference in scrolling and i thought it must be the digitizer or something. So before repackaging to return it to Amazon i tried a factory reset, voila, stutter gone. I tried activating one-haded mode again -> stutter. Deactivate one-handed mode -> stutter gone. So i guess that's the cause.

Disable any night-light app/setting and UI will run fine

Johann0109 said:
Disable any night-light app/setting and UI will run fine
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It was (reproducible if i activate/deactivate it) actually the one-handed mode, but thanks anyways!

Framedrops and stutter everywhere - How do I fix this?

So, got my phone since monday now and I cant help but to find little framedrops and stutters all over the place, all the time... well, what would you guys do to fix this? Any settings to be changed or perhaps a custom kernel? My Nexus 5 runs way smoother, my iPhone 6, just something I wouldnt expect from an SD835 phone.. therefore, where is the issue and how should I approach this?
(Not talking about the annoying Jello.. thats an whole other problem )

I think you got an s8 by mistake???? i have an s8 and that ishh stutters like a mofooo!???
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Just tested on a normal S8 and it drops like crazy too !! LOL
WTF!

jvidia said:
Just tested on a normal S8 and it drops like crazy too !! LOL
WTF!
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"Wtf" you are surprised the s8 stutters? ???? come on, it's Samsung we should know this by now
@OP. Are you seeing this through something like gpu rendering?
I would recommend clearing your caches, dalvik and cache. That was causing textra to constantly crash for me on this phone and my z play. If that doesn't work, try a factory reset, if not, get a replacement as you likely have a bad unit. I've had no lags or stutters even while in power saving mode..
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Chrizzter said:
So, got my phone since monday now and I cant help but to find little framedrops and stutters all over the place, all the time... well, what would you guys do to fix this? Any settings to be changed or perhaps a custom kernel? My Nexus 5 runs way smoother, my iPhone 6, just something I wouldnt expect from an SD835 phone.. therefore, where is the issue and how should I approach this?
(Not talking about the annoying Jello.. thats an whole other problem )
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I have it too and it is ****ing annoying as all hell. Damn near chucked my phone out the window.

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... My Nexus 5 runs way smoothe...
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I came from a Nexus 5 to the OP5 and the OP5 is blazing fast compared to my previous phone. In all likelihood this problem is caused by an app which you have loaded. Don't compound the confusion by rushing to a different ROM or kernel. OOS is almost pure AOSP so you'll not likely get an improvement. Most of the custom kernels make changes to squeeze out battery life not speed things up which sucks battery life.
As you just got the phone you could do a factory reset including user data then test the pure experience to make sure the "stutters" aren't there then slowly add your apps and re-test until you identify the app(s) that are impacting this liquid smooth device.
If you don't believe me then check the OP5 YouTube reviews which always mention how fast the OP5 is with OOS and the 835 processor.

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I came from a Nexus 5 to the OP5 and the OP5 is blazing fast compared to my previous phone. In all likelihood this problem is caused by an app which you have loaded. Don't compound the confusion by rushing to a different ROM or kernel. OOS is almost pure AOSP so you'll not likely get an improvement. Most of the custom kernels make changes to squeeze out battery life not speed things up which sucks battery life.
As you just got the phone you could do a factory reset including user data then test the pure experience to make sure the "stutters" aren't there then slowly add your apps and re-test until you identify the app(s) that are impacting this liquid smooth device.
If you don't believe me then check the OP5 YouTube reviews which always mention how fast the OP5 is with OOS and the 835 processor.
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I'm not saying it isn't fast but the jelly effect and micro stutters make the scrolling a pain. Also it happens everywhere not just in browsers and such.

Rogue_ said:
I'm not saying it isn't fast but the jelly effect and micro stutters make the scrolling a pain. Also it happens everywhere not just in browsers and such.
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It has been commented many times that the jelly effect is only seen by some people and not others. Luckily for me I've not one of those unfortunates. As for micro stutters I've no idea what your talking about as I've not seen that either.
I did use my Nexus 5 to get an old app off it and that is where I was really shocked at how slow the N5 was compared to my OP5. Like so much of tech a good amount of what a person feels about a device is personal perception. You seem to be sensitive to things other are not as overall the reviewers and most of the owners talk glowingly about the lack of issues as you describe especially compared to the big flag ships such as the Galaxy S8, 8+ and Note 8 that costs significantly more. I've seen YouTube videos of side by side speed and battery tests with these top brands and the OP5 smokes them.

I can definitely see the micro stutters and frame drops here and there as well on the stock 4.5.14 ROM and kernel. I'm not saying its not fast (it is) but its not 60fps all the time like how a Pixel is. For context I was using a Pixel and S8+ before this.
As of right now, I'm using the OP5 with the RenderZenith kernel (an EAS kernel). As far as I can tell its now behaving similarly to my previous Pixel with noticeably fewer frame drops.

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I can definitely see the micro stutters and frame drops here and there as well on the stock 4.5.14 ROM and kernel. I'm not saying its not fast (it is) but its not 60fps all the time like how a Pixel is. For context I was using a Pixel and S8+ before this.
As of right now, I'm using the OP5 with the RenderZenith kernel (an EAS kernel). As far as I can tell its now behaving similarly to my previous Pixel with noticeably fewer frame drops.
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you are the first what I see that he wrote such a negative experience for the Oneplus 5. According to me, this is the racket even the stock visual style. If you find a suitable combination of ROM, kernel, then the OP5 is "Stalin organ"