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There's just no way to get rid of the lag

I know, it's a 2 year old phone with just 1GB RAM and TouchWiz on top of it.
I've spent the last 2 days trying a LOT of roms to try to make the phone feel faster, because I don't want to buy a new one. I really like this one. The camera is AMAZING, decent battery life, love blocking mode, etc. As a phone it works great: good speaker, strong vibration, great signal, etc.
But there's one single thing that makes this phone feel "old": the speed. Just the speed. If it were faster and more fluid then there would be absolutely no reason to upgrade to the new phones (except, well, maybe more RAM and battery).
Yesterday I tried like 15 AOSP roms: CM11, temasek, ultimaAOSP, NeatROMAOSP, Vanir, AOKP, SlimKat, etc.
Nothing. It's slightly faster, but the problem is the animations. They just look wrong all the time. There's frame drops everywhere. And bugs and crashes, so back to Samsung stock today. Tried another 10 samsung based roms. Nothing new. Speed is still the same and frame drops are still there...
I guess I'll have to end up buying a new phone, but definitely not a flagship. I'm looking at midrange phones that come with AOSP. Found one with 2GB RAM, 13Mpx camera, 2500 battery, 5 inch 720P IPS screen, microSD and dual SIM for 199$. Great price, and comes with 4.4 stock Android.
Tried the phone at the store the other day and it just made my SGS3 look like the midranger, and that with a MediaTek A7 1.3 quad core!

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Exactly. Well,animations are smooth on AOSP with right kernel,but still not as it should be. This phone sucks when it comes to UI performance.
Now I even got broken camera and media playback,too,after stressing it with every new test on my phone.
Well,probably this phone worked the best with 4.1.2. I think it's all about crappy processor,called exynos.
EDIT: Btw,you can try archidroid 1x with his boeffla presets,though. After all,it's not that bad.

I think you are just setting unrealistic expectations if none of those ROMS, without TouchWiz, were any good for you.

There is nothing crappy about the processor mate. your case is an isolated issue. If the archi ROM is not smooth for you then there is something wrong with your phone.
it's always wise to stick to ROMs and kernels which are built using proper sources.
Do not restore a massive amount of data soon after a flash. Let the ROM settle a bit. Trim your device memory once in a while.
Also a megawipe is recommended after so many flashes.
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I put Cyanogenmod CM11 on mine after updating to stock 4.3. It felt like a completely different phone and brought back the speed. It absolutely flies and battery time is double what it was on stock 4.3.

I tested alot of Roms but regading speed and batterylife i use Temasek with Yank kernel. No OC and de S3 flys.

Oh god, it's like reading a thread I could have written myself. I feel you, mate. Got the same damn frustations sometimes.
It seems that whichever ROM "camp" you choose, you're gonna have drawbacks. Tried so many different variants of TW-roms and i just feel they are all too slow and with lags.
Many of the AOSP-roms are quite fast (using ArchiDroid atm which is incredibly fast!) but then you get the problem of crappy camera, no Allshare, tethering issues, many games that have sound-issues and all those random bugs we all know about but try to live with
Perhaps the new Kitkat port can solve these issues but it seems there is a lot of work to be done still. Still I'm glad there's a community like XDA with such awesome people (Like Kryten who posted earlier ) who put the time into developing these things.. Or we would be stuck with even slower ROM's from Samsung.

Is there any way to get rid of it, or at least reduce it?

Install smart droid, further debloat, run greenify and boeffla, custom launcher and its quick, no lag

Even the s5 can't run without lag using Touchwiz.
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jennifercolemanme said:
Is there any way to get rid of it, or at least reduce it?
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Yes there is, activate Developer Options by tapping on the Build Number in About Phone. In there are 3 settings for animations. The 1st thing I do on every rom is decrease them to 25%. On CM11 and temaseks builds you have a slider which allows you to fine tune the settings instead of the picker which you find on other roms.
My personal experience is that OmniRom is just snappier than any of the others, even when I have a whole bunch of apps open, incoming calls get displayed almost instantly, the dialer and contacts open almost instantly. In my case of course. Everyone has their favourite rom/kernel combination. I have also had great success using Yank555's kernel with the default settings (which include a slight overclock with no noticeable battery drain.

So my temporarily solution is to completely disable the animations in developer settings.
It's a good solution, for now.
My combo right now is stock Samsung 4.3 debloated (many useless apps freezed. Other apps freezed also using Titanium Backup) with Boeffla kernel.
It gets annoying when animations aren't smooth and consistent, but I guess it's expected when Touchwiz is on top and just 1GB RAM.
Taking about RAM, this phone has almost no multitasking also! It's impossible to keep one Chrome or Internet tab open in the background while you do something else. When you go back to the Internet app it has to reload again.
And no custom rom can fix this either. I spent one week with AOSP Vanir rom and didn't had multitasking there either.
What I'm trying to say is that this phone has turned old faster than it should have, precisely because of a bad 4.3 update by Samsung and also just 1GB RAM.
And talking about speed and lag again, trust me, I've tied all the good roms available. It won't matter if you install a custom kernel. If you overclock the phone then battery will last even less than before, and it doesn't make a huge difference in speed animation and fluidity.
I'm sure AOSP roms like CM11 and others do work faster and more fluid in newest phones like G2, SGS4, HTC One, etc. It's because they have a better processor and 2GB RAM.
In the end I think it's the hardware that's to blame for the lag (and bad 4.3 update by Samsung too).
The phone is great otherwise. I love almost everything about it, like I previously said. Most times I can't believe how good the camera is, the screen is enough for me (no need for 1080P), size and weight is perfect, etc.
I would have preferred to own the US SGS3 model with it's 2GB RAM than the EU model. In the long run I think it's better.
But anyway, the lag is not huge, just annoying. And I only notice it when opening and closing apps.

Try entering development settings and change the animator duration scale to 0.5 the transition animation scale to 0.5 and the window animation scale to 0.5
It will make anything faster
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AlmoGS said:
Try entering development settings and change the animator duration scale to 0.5 the transition animation scale to 0.5 and the window animation scale to 0.5
It will make anything faster
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You don't understand it.
It doesn't matter the scale animation (just tried with 0.25, 0.5, 0.75 again), there's still frame drops everywhere.
It doesn't make anything "faster". It's even more annoying watching the frame drops at 0.25.
It's not a solution. There is NO solution to the animation frame drops, not even on custom roms...
Only "solution" is to turn animation scale completely to 0.

I have sgs3 intl and I had a lot of lags and frame drops and I switched to CM 11 nightly and it's became faster and no frame drop and it's like new.
What Android version do you use?
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if you want to have the same camera quality, i suggest you archidroid 1.7.16.
faster rom i ever tried

What lag? My S3 is smmmmoooooooth on CM11
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Sensamic said:
You don't understand it.
It doesn't matter the scale animation (just tried with 0.25, 0.5, 0.75 again), there's still frame drops everywhere.
It doesn't make anything "faster". It's even more annoying watching the frame drops at 0.25.
It's not a solution. There is NO solution to the animation frame drops, not even on custom roms...
Only "solution" is to turn animation scale completely to 0.
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Alright,my last bet will be to go on Archidroid stock based ROM,use it's own boeffla preset setting and turn animations to 1.5x. Animations will be smooth all around,only custom launcher is needed,because when opening or closing apps on touchwiz,it's still stuttery. I'm still using touchwiz launcher,though (lovely animations all around!).
I noticed 1.0x is the worst speed for animations on stock ROMs. I mean,with 1.0x,I notice some fps drops much more when opening a new windows with animations. Like it's too fast for CPU to tune right time for speed and animation and that makes it laggy. So it's all about wrong timing,as 0.5x also feels much more smoother,it's noticeable.
But the 1.5x setting compensates that. No more stuttery animations at all and it feels pretty beautiful. This was my last solution for stock touchwiz ROM,and I'm pretty happy. Try it yourself.
EDIT: Btw,if you also want to keep touchwiz,try xposed app settings,find there touchwiz launcher and tick the checkbox for "resident" option. That way it will keep the launcher in memory hardly,so when you will go back to launcher , shadows under the icons won't redraw and thus stuttery animations will be reduced and will happen much more rare.

On multitasking, try maximising your swap. Never have problems going from Chrome, email, FB etc. Also try removing apps 'receiver' settings, so they don't open on unlock, wifi connect etc..
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There have been a select FEW roms that solved most of the issues you talking about, but they mostly old and the developers have moved on. The truth is, AOSP kitkat isnt optimized for our phones and you most likely wont find a stock based ROM that doesn't lag. I think the main culprit is Jellybean + Samsung together. I don't ever recall ICS having frame drops or lagging really. Samsung did a crappy job optimizing jellybean for our phone. Jellybean is hardware intensive, more than ICS and Kitkat. Seems like it was a temp solution while Google worked on KitKat and now our phone is unfortunately stuck there.
Do yourself a favor and don't get a Samsung if you want proper performance.

Bloody G3 - I need to rant

I know this is going to sound very much like a first world problem, but this phone is frustratingly ****. It is easily the buggiest, slowest, most laggy phone I have ever had.
I have tried just about all the LG based ROMS, only to find that each one, although not buggy, are all laggy. The lag is so bad that it gives my old S2 on Gingerbread a run for its money. At least with Samsung phones, you could get rid of the lag by using a AOSP ROM and it would still be functional.
To solve the frustrating lag issue, I have installed a CM based ROM. At first I was delighted. The lag was gone. The phone was now comparable to my super fast Nexus 5. But after a few hours, I noticed the same bugs that every other CM based ROM user has. Today, I had to restart the phone six times FFS! It is a little more stable on 777 Kernel, but the same issues still persist.
Has anyone achieved bliss with this phone? Is there any ROMS, AOSP or LG based, that are fast, (Nexus 5 fast), and bug free?
Don't get me wrong, I love devs and the work they do. Without them, my old Galaxy phones, (S1, S2, S3, S4), would have been poo. My Nexus 5 would have been boring. (Stock android is meh). I just don't understand why this phone seems to have so many issues. Help me understand why it is so hard to develop a fast and reliable ROM for this phone. I know it isn't from a lack of trying. There is heaps of support and devs working on various ROMS in the G3 threads already and all of them are very talented.
Is it hardware based lag or is there something else inherently wrong with the phone?
Thanks for reading and offering any solutions. I don't want to list the ROMS I have tried, as it will seem like I am an ungrateful twat to those devs that worked so hard. Suffice to say, I have tried all the popular CM/AOSP and LG based ROMS.

Stock 5.0 V20H fine for me no lag [emoji3]

I switched to note 4 whilst g3 was good I had a better experience with my note 3. So upgraded
-= Note 4 & Gear VR =-

hashcheck said:
I switched to note 4 whilst g3 was good I had a better experience with my note 3. So upgraded
-= Note 4 & Gear VR =-
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I don't want to switch so soon. There has to be a solution. I love the screen and size of this phone. The only other phone I would consider is the droid turbo, but it's so bloody expensive!

DoobyDroid said:
Stock 5.0 V20H fine for me no lag [emoji3]
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Compared to what? Which other android phone have you used? In isolation, this phone is barely acceptable. Then, after you use a nexus, HTC or Sony phone, this phone is comparably slow. Almost unusable.
I can't bring myself to try stock again until someone who has other phones to base their claims on can confirm it is lag free.

cubic25 said:
Compared to what? Which other android phone have you used? In isolation, this phone is barely acceptable. Then, after you use a nexus, HTC or Sony phone, this phone is comparably slow. Almost unusable.
I can't bring myself to try stock again until someone who has other phones to base their claims on can confirm it is lag free.
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Have you tried the usual tricks?
1. Swap out the stock launcher for something like Nova or Apex
2. Switch your keyboard to a 3rd party keyboard
While it does suffer from the random stutter, my phone is generally very zippy and does not lag.

Done all that. On stock based ROMS, stutter and lag is unbearable. My wife, nexus 5 user, even commented on how bad it is. I'm actually embarrassed to use the phone in front of people. I know it isn't a hardware issue, because AOSP ROMS are lag free, but not bug free.

Yeah, the phone is nowhere near as quick as a Nexus. The notification bar is also **** compared to stock Lollipop. There are a few tricks I use to improve performance on a stock rom:
1) Turn off throttling/thermal daemon via the service menu.
2) I use setCPU to set the phone to use the "performance" scheduler whenever the screen is on, locking it at 2.5Ghz.
Still isn't perfect, but it helps substantially. Obviously this is in addition to changing the launcher.
It's just one of those things. As you say, CM12 just isn't stable and worryingly seems to be going backwards, getting less and less stable with each passing nightly. The camera is also completely crap on AOSP roms. Nexus devices are great but the N5 is old and the N6 is too big and expensive. The S5 lags too, and while Note 4 is supposed to be good, but I simply won't believe that Touchwiz lag is gone without seeing it with my own eyes. Even if it has gone, Touchwiz remains the ugliest skin I've ever seen. Sony phones are nice, but they aren't packaged anywhere near as tightly as the G3, which is it's biggest strength: 22mm shorter than an iPhone 6+, with the same size screen. That's impressive. HTC's are just ridiculously large for a given screen size. The 1+1 is old now, and doesn't support all LTE bands used in the UK.
There is no perfect phone. Whichever you choose, there are compromises to be made. However IMHO the G3 strikes the best compromise available today, at least once running the latest Lollipop build and with the tweaks I mentioned above applied.

Had most 2014 flagships and G3 is deff fav so far, didnt have KK as updated to LP out the box had little lag after ota but common just needed a factory reset and all good since

Just a tip you can use on any android phone, go to settings, developer options, and set all the animations to 0.5x. This drastically reduces the time the animations take, and it gives a very snappy experience. It makes a LOT of difference, trust me.

No lag whatsoever here. Im running Chupachups newest rom with rin kernel. I've previously owned htc one, lg g2, xperia z1 and this phone definitely outperforms them all.

Ive owned the Xperia Z1, HTC One M7, and tbh id rate this better than both, i would like the battery life to be better my Z1 was amazing for that buh im custom stock rom and i dont get lag, everything is as it should be.

cubic25 said:
I know this is going to sound very much like a first world problem, but this phone is frustratingly ****. It is easily the buggiest, slowest, most laggy phone I have ever had.
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Has anyone achieved bliss with this phone? Is there any ROMS, AOSP or LG based, that are fast, (Nexus 5 fast), and bug free?
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Is it hardware based lag or is there something else inherently wrong with the phone?
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Because LL is still unstable and buggy? And so is any rom based on it?..
Stock firmware sucks because of LG's software - it's very badly written. Almost as bad as touchwiz is. (I used SGS3, trust me on that one...)
AOSP/CM based firmwares are better, but they still suffer due do LL newness. Wait till android 5.1, things may become better.
There is also a hardware issue: unbelievably bad heat management. They used 8974ac, but had not made any cooling system. No radiators, no heat spread throughout the case, and it's facing LCD panel - which is a very bad radiator. GG WP, throttling kick in, phone starts to lag, etc etc etc.

I think there may be problem with your unit... Try to send it back to get a replacement or have it serviced.
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I agree that most of the stock LG-G3 roms, Lollipop/Kitkat, if not rooted and without any mods, LAG is unavoidable. The case is, some people can't root their phones and most of them will try searching why G3 stock rom is lagging... if I'm one of them and I happen to see this post, I would feel bad and feel stupid at the same time why I spend money buying a crappy phone.
Well anyways, try Crash Rom v2.0. It is a stock based ROM like chupachups. The animation is not as fluid as CM but I won't say that it's lagging. Compared to CM, I have not yet encountered any bugs and mostly the camera is better. If you're interested you can also downgrade the resolution to 1080p, this will enhance your g3, 3d and 2d graphics performance.

Hi im all so on lollipop 5.0 updated out of the box and its all good maybe some lag not much to notice. Still no root method yet for stock lollipop 5.0 and i dont want to downgrade to kk so il have patience and wait for new root method for me g3

Wow, I went from the nexus 5, to the htc m8, to the g3 all in year. My advice, play with this one to get the phone lag gone. This by far is the best. Like a previous person said, turn off animations and change the launcher.

mab71 said:
I think there may be problem with your unit... Try to send it back to get a replacement or have it serviced.
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Can't be an issue with the phone, as it is lag free with CM based ROMS.
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I agree that most of the stock LG-G3 roms, Lollipop/Kitkat, if not rooted and without any mods, LAG is unavoidable. The case is, some people can't root their phones and most of them will try searching why G3 stock rom is lagging... if I'm one of them and I happen to see this post, I would feel bad and feel stupid at the same time why I spend money buying a crappy phone.
Well anyways, try Crash Rom v2.0. It is a stock based ROM like chupachups. The animation is not as fluid as CM but I won't say that it's lagging. Compared to CM, I have not yet encountered any bugs and mostly the camera is better. If you're interested you can also downgrade the resolution to 1080p, this will enhance your g3, 3d and 2d graphics performance.
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I'll give crash a go this afternoon and report back. Hopefully 5.1 ROMS fix the issue too.
dspcap said:
Wow, I went from the nexus 5, to the htc m8, to the g3 all in year. My advice, play with this one to get the phone lag gone. This by far is the best. Like a previous person said, turn off animations and change the launcher.
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Already done all that. Animations are turned off, launcher animations are set to lightning fast, CPU throttling is turned off. I've tried all the tricks in the book. Fact is, LG based software is crap, just like Samsung.
So far today, the lock-screen has only frozen on me four times, which is good.
I'm not sure if I'd rather put up with a laggy phone or a buggy phone.

My phone is currently on V20h. Apart from the occasional Home launcher crash, I've not had any lag that I notice of. The last time there was any lag was on V10i. My phone is rooted but is not running any mods.
Prior to this, I've had the Note 3 and Xperia S. Compared to the G3, I would say that the smoothness is at the very least, on par with the Note 3 running on stock.
I've seen people complaining about the G3 being laggy too. Is your phone by any chance the 2 GB RAM version?

My phone is the 2gb version, but I always have at least close to 300mb free. Sometimes I have over 1gb free. Not that it should matter though, as I have read on numerous places that the 3gb version lags too, and that both phones are very close on performance. The extra 1gb of RAM is negligible.
Just flashing Crash ROM now. I think I'm going to regret it though, as I much prefer the look of AOSP anyway.
Ah crap. Just as I flash the ROM, I read that the dev is stopping support for our device. Based on the comments, it looks like a promising ROM.

Framedrops and stutter everywhere - How do I fix this?

So, got my phone since monday now and I cant help but to find little framedrops and stutters all over the place, all the time... well, what would you guys do to fix this? Any settings to be changed or perhaps a custom kernel? My Nexus 5 runs way smoother, my iPhone 6, just something I wouldnt expect from an SD835 phone.. therefore, where is the issue and how should I approach this?
(Not talking about the annoying Jello.. thats an whole other problem )

I think you got an s8 by mistake???? i have an s8 and that ishh stutters like a mofooo!???
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Just tested on a normal S8 and it drops like crazy too !! LOL
WTF!

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Just tested on a normal S8 and it drops like crazy too !! LOL
WTF!
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"Wtf" you are surprised the s8 stutters? ???? come on, it's Samsung we should know this by now
@OP. Are you seeing this through something like gpu rendering?
I would recommend clearing your caches, dalvik and cache. That was causing textra to constantly crash for me on this phone and my z play. If that doesn't work, try a factory reset, if not, get a replacement as you likely have a bad unit. I've had no lags or stutters even while in power saving mode..
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Chrizzter said:
So, got my phone since monday now and I cant help but to find little framedrops and stutters all over the place, all the time... well, what would you guys do to fix this? Any settings to be changed or perhaps a custom kernel? My Nexus 5 runs way smoother, my iPhone 6, just something I wouldnt expect from an SD835 phone.. therefore, where is the issue and how should I approach this?
(Not talking about the annoying Jello.. thats an whole other problem )
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I have it too and it is ****ing annoying as all hell. Damn near chucked my phone out the window.

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... My Nexus 5 runs way smoothe...
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I came from a Nexus 5 to the OP5 and the OP5 is blazing fast compared to my previous phone. In all likelihood this problem is caused by an app which you have loaded. Don't compound the confusion by rushing to a different ROM or kernel. OOS is almost pure AOSP so you'll not likely get an improvement. Most of the custom kernels make changes to squeeze out battery life not speed things up which sucks battery life.
As you just got the phone you could do a factory reset including user data then test the pure experience to make sure the "stutters" aren't there then slowly add your apps and re-test until you identify the app(s) that are impacting this liquid smooth device.
If you don't believe me then check the OP5 YouTube reviews which always mention how fast the OP5 is with OOS and the 835 processor.

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I came from a Nexus 5 to the OP5 and the OP5 is blazing fast compared to my previous phone. In all likelihood this problem is caused by an app which you have loaded. Don't compound the confusion by rushing to a different ROM or kernel. OOS is almost pure AOSP so you'll not likely get an improvement. Most of the custom kernels make changes to squeeze out battery life not speed things up which sucks battery life.
As you just got the phone you could do a factory reset including user data then test the pure experience to make sure the "stutters" aren't there then slowly add your apps and re-test until you identify the app(s) that are impacting this liquid smooth device.
If you don't believe me then check the OP5 YouTube reviews which always mention how fast the OP5 is with OOS and the 835 processor.
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I'm not saying it isn't fast but the jelly effect and micro stutters make the scrolling a pain. Also it happens everywhere not just in browsers and such.

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I'm not saying it isn't fast but the jelly effect and micro stutters make the scrolling a pain. Also it happens everywhere not just in browsers and such.
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It has been commented many times that the jelly effect is only seen by some people and not others. Luckily for me I've not one of those unfortunates. As for micro stutters I've no idea what your talking about as I've not seen that either.
I did use my Nexus 5 to get an old app off it and that is where I was really shocked at how slow the N5 was compared to my OP5. Like so much of tech a good amount of what a person feels about a device is personal perception. You seem to be sensitive to things other are not as overall the reviewers and most of the owners talk glowingly about the lack of issues as you describe especially compared to the big flag ships such as the Galaxy S8, 8+ and Note 8 that costs significantly more. I've seen YouTube videos of side by side speed and battery tests with these top brands and the OP5 smokes them.

I can definitely see the micro stutters and frame drops here and there as well on the stock 4.5.14 ROM and kernel. I'm not saying its not fast (it is) but its not 60fps all the time like how a Pixel is. For context I was using a Pixel and S8+ before this.
As of right now, I'm using the OP5 with the RenderZenith kernel (an EAS kernel). As far as I can tell its now behaving similarly to my previous Pixel with noticeably fewer frame drops.

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I can definitely see the micro stutters and frame drops here and there as well on the stock 4.5.14 ROM and kernel. I'm not saying its not fast (it is) but its not 60fps all the time like how a Pixel is. For context I was using a Pixel and S8+ before this.
As of right now, I'm using the OP5 with the RenderZenith kernel (an EAS kernel). As far as I can tell its now behaving similarly to my previous Pixel with noticeably fewer frame drops.
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you are the first what I see that he wrote such a negative experience for the Oneplus 5. According to me, this is the racket even the stock visual style. If you find a suitable combination of ROM, kernel, then the OP5 is "Stalin organ"

Will the G6 be ever stutter and lag free?

Well, coming from an S7E, the major issue I have with the G6 is how slow it is when opening contacts, to apps, to camera. I still have my S7E and everything opens faster on it. I know the SD 821 is quite capable, so it must be the LG UI that's making it slow.
I have a couple of questions,
1) I have the 870DS and looking at the trend I may never be able to root. So can someone who has an US version with a custom rom tell me if it has made the phone any faster?
2) And also does anyone here know at all if the 870DS version has any hopes in future for unlocking the bootloader?
Thanks guys. Cheers.

Unlocking the bootloader no, unless it gets cracked which I doubt. Has not happened since the G4.
Custom roms can make the phone faster because they remove a lot of features and run stock Android but almost always the Camera app will really be bad on custom roms (unless based on stock rom).
I have a Pixel and G6. Pixel is known to be probably the smoothest Android phone to this day.
The G6 does not really lag behind it at all. The animations are smoother on the Pixel but thats about it.
I had some intial lag the first day with the device but thats about it.
If yours is lagging consider a factory reset maybe.

@shri080
Do a factory reset in the settings. This helped a lot of people who have lag issues. There is an extra thread for this.
Do a backup of your apps before doing it!
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shri080 said:
Well, coming from an S7E, the major issue I have with the G6 is how slow it is when opening contacts, to apps, to camera. I still have my S7E and everything opens faster on it. I know the SD 821 is quite capable, so it must be the LG UI that's making it slow.
I have a couple of questions,
1) I have the 870DS and looking at the trend I may never be able to root. So can someone who has an US version with a custom rom tell me if it has made the phone any faster?
2) And also does anyone here know at all if the 870DS version has any hopes in future for unlocking the bootloader?
Thanks guys. Cheers.
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Have you tried possibly a different launcher?
As well as debloating what apps you can?
Also there's always the options in developer mode that IMO truly help with ram allocation and overall speed.

Yes the LG G6 should be lag free and smooth just like the Google Pixel or the One Plus 3T as they share the same powerful processor. I think atm most non Pixel phones are stuck with just Android 7.0 where as Pixel might be on 7.1.1 since 7.1.1 might be better on performance or smoother than 7.0. Once the amazing LG G6 gets 7.1.1 in the future I guess we should see some difference in smoothness or performance. As for unlocked bootloader or root for the LG G6 or any LG flagships, always get the international version single SIM like the LG H870 which already has custom ROMs and TWRP recovery. I don't think the dual SIM will get bootloader unlocked. LG did great optimization on it's LG UX 6.0 which is fast and smooth and is better than SD 835 or Exynos 8895 equipped Galaxy S8 and it's slow, laggy TouchWiz. Imagine the upcoming LG V30 running on Android 7.1.2 on top of LG UX 6.0 with SD 835 would make it the best favorite Android phone of all time! Go to Settings/Developer Options/tick on "Force GPU Rendering" should make the beast smoother or snappier. If root available try L Speed/Entropy/fstrim apps found on Play Store.

Have you went to developer options and reduced animations, this will make your phone faster

bossofindy said:
Have you went to developer options and reduced animations, this will make your phone faster
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This doesn't really make it faster, just makes animations move faster, which personally looks worse to me.

You must be kidding, the G6 is the smoothest running phone i bought to date. I have the 870DS with around 30 apps installed.
My previous Phones were the Note 2, S5 and Note 4. This is what i call laggdroid, horrible...

No lag here, smooth for me
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Okay, so i formatted my phone and set it as a new device instead of restoring apps from the previous device. This has over all made the device a tad bit faster and i am kind of happy about it now. Also, my main issue was, the dialer/contact app would always open almost a second late behind my S7E, after the reset it became a bit faster but i was still not happy, So just tried a third party dialer app and trust me it works like a charm!!! Now the dialer app opens as quick as it does on my S7E Since that's the thing i use my phone mostly for, it was so irritating that it lagged a second or half a second behind my S7E. Thankfully now it's all fine
Also, reducing the animation speed makes it more jerky and ugly and it doesn't really speed up the device at all. Hopefully as and when we get 7.1 update, the UI may be smoother

Android 8.0 will fix all lag and battery issues I'm super sure of it its only a matter of time

I honestly think G6 is pretty smooth, this is coming from S8. There ARE times that it stutter, but it's been the LG way unfortunately. If there's one lag I could remove, it's the camera launching lag.

cy88 said:
I honestly think G6 is pretty smooth, this is coming from S8. There ARE times that it stutter, but it's been the LG way unfortunately. If there's one lag I could remove, it's the camera launching lag.
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I believe there's a fix for camera launch lag, you just have to look for it.
Also, Fulmics rom makes this phone faster and smooth as baby's butt, so if you're rooted and would like an amazing OEM-based rom, this is it

WstrKuNoužč said:
I believe there's a fix for camera launch lag, you just have to look for it.
Also, Fulmics rom makes this phone faster and smooth as baby's butt, so if you're rooted and would like an amazing OEM-based rom, this is it
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I agree, the G6 is already smooth as it is, without root and without a custom ROM but knowing me, I went ahead to install Fulmics ROM & boy oh boy it is smooth.

yurushi said:
I agree, the G6 is already smooth as it is, without root and without a custom ROM but knowing me, I went ahead to install Fulmics ROM & boy oh boy it is smooth.
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Hell yeah!
Had it on my G3 and since then i don't even miss stock android roms anymore.

I also find the G6 to be a nice smooth phone. But I also have issues with a slow and laggy dialer app. I don't think it's then phone in that case, I think it's the actual app that isn't properly coded/built. Just doesn't seem that good.
I use Google contacts instead, does the job fine, but i left the stock dialer. I rarely use it, usually make calls from contacts, so the occasional time i DO use it, isn't a big deal.

fps lag

I'm experiencing famerate lag. Changing orientation, opening apps and transitions through the ui.
Anyone else is experiencing this? And if so you know what's causing it?
My device is encrypted.

ddaharu said:
I'm experiencing famerate lag. Changing orientation, opening apps and transitions through the ui.
Anyone else is experiencing this? And if so you know what's causing it?
My device is encrypted.
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Yep, its a serious problem with the OnePlus 5.
Animations, scrolling, everything is a mess on Oxygen OS, to the point where I have unlocked my bootloader to try non-OOS based ROMs.
This thing stutters more than my old S7 Edge, and the Note 8 is significantly smoother than this.
Awesome example of how poor OOS is currently:
Go into Pocket Casts, subscribe to a podcast, open your subscriptions, tap on a tile. The simple animation will stutter like crazy as it opens. Same with play store.
Scrolling is atrocious for such a high specced device. 8GB/SD835 means nothing if smoothness is the worst by far out of any android flagship.
I couldn't even get an answer out of OnePlus support if Oreo would fix things.

Yup, the overall is experience is kinda jittery and laggy, my iPhone 6 and even my Nexus 5 are way smoother.

I've found OOS to be a lot smoother with Blu Spark kernel but even then OOS is so unstable that several times out of nowhere some system wake lock would suddenly go wiggy and prevent the phone from going into Doze. It's happened on three different builds of OOS and it was a different wake lock each time and caused massive idle battery drain. I haven't found any way to fix it other than doing a clean flash of OOS and fresh install of my apps. OOS isn't stable enough to be the stock operating system on any Android phone, let alone a $600 one that advertises itself as a flagship killer.

Don't know what you talking about, I never see a single lag/stutter in my OP5 and actually like OOS even coming from Stock Android (Nexus 6P)

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Yep, its a serious problem with the OnePlus 5.
Animations, scrolling, everything is a mess on Oxygen OS, to the point where I have unlocked my bootloader to try non-OOS based ROMs.
This thing stutters more than my old S7 Edge, and the Note 8 is significantly smoother than this.
Awesome example of how poor OOS is currently:
Go into Pocket Casts, subscribe to a podcast, open your subscriptions, tap on a tile. The simple animation will stutter like crazy as it opens. Same with play store.
Scrolling is atrocious for such a high specced device. 8GB/SD835 means nothing if smoothness is the worst by far out of any android flagship.
I couldn't even get an answer out of OnePlus support if Oreo would fix things.
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Extremely smooth and buttery in 4.5.13

Arny209 said:
Extremely smooth and buttery in 4.5.13
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istrikerx said:
Yep, its a serious problem with the OnePlus 5.
Animations, scrolling, everything is a mess on Oxygen OS, to the point where I have unlocked my bootloader to try non-OOS based ROMs.
This thing stutters more than my old S7 Edge, and the Note 8 is significantly smoother than this.
Awesome example of how poor OOS is currently:
Go into Pocket Casts, subscribe to a podcast, open your subscriptions, tap on a tile. The simple animation will stutter like crazy as it opens. Same with play store.
Scrolling is atrocious for such a high specced device. 8GB/SD835 means nothing if smoothness is the worst by far out of any android flagship.
I couldn't even get an answer out of OnePlus support if Oreo would fix things.
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Yeah, I don't know what's wrong with this phone. I also flashed to LineageOS to see how it would perform compared to OxygenOS, but have you noticed what I noticed? It's still Jitters bits. I have eventually got it smooth with tweaking the kernel settings around until it would scroll smooth. What has me confused is that it happened when I switched rom still, and even after trying a different kernel it still would stutters while scrolling.. so it has me really confused as to what the problem is.
My kernel setup is butter smooth in LineageOS, but only help OxygenOS a bit as it still slightly stutters. It's smooth in chrome, but certain apps like Instagram still stutters on OOS

ddaharu said:
I'm experiencing famerate lag. Changing orientation, opening apps and transitions through the ui.
Anyone else is experiencing this? And if so you know what's causing it?
My device is encrypted.
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yeah noticed this also on stock OOS. IDK whether this is just placeboo effect or not, but it feels much smoother now on my current set-up (xXx ROM + ElementalX Kernel)

Running stock oos with simple gx wouldn't be happier I actually came back from the non oos roms because I missed the smoothness and app opening animations from stock oos .... could you give me an example of UI jitters or where it occurs because I haven't run into any problems . Speaking of chrome smoothness scrolling could be better but I am fine in instagram Reddit (boost app) and wouldn't complain as per opening of play store is also smooth with opener game of apps from play store is fine as well .

tsukiyakie said:
yeah noticed this also on stock OOS. IDK whether this is just placeboo effect or not, but it feels much smoother now on my current set-up (xXx ROM + ElementalX Kernel)
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Ok so I uninstalled some apps and it's smooth more ?
This is lame because I installed a "million" apps on my 3t and this NEVER happened. But anyway
Do you have the elementalX app installed or did you just flash it?

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Running stock oos with simple gx wouldn't be happier I actually came back from the non oos roms because I missed the smoothness and app opening animations from stock oos .... could you give me an example of UI jitters or where it occurs because I haven't run into any problems . Speaking of chrome smoothness scrolling could be better but I am fine in instagram Reddit (boost app) and wouldn't complain as per opening of play store is also smooth with opener game of apps from play store is fine as well .
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Did a speed test after getting rid of some stuff and my OP5 running xXx Rom is faster than my bro 0P5 running stock.

ddaharu said:
Ok so I uninstalled some apps and it's smooth more ?
This is lame because I installed a "million" apps on my 3t and this NEVER happened. But anyway
Do you have the elementalX app installed or did you just flash it?
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I installed the app but just for display color tweaking. I leave the rest untouched. This is the smoothest kernel so far at least to me, our experience may differ tho.

tsukiyakie said:
I installed the app but just for display color tweaking. I leave the rest untouched. This is the smoothest kernel so far at least to me, our experience may differ tho.
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Ok I'll use it when xXx 4.2 is released. :highfive: