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Disappointed that the xperia z5 charger only has an output of 1500mA. I've read on forums where some xperia z5 owners were given the 1800mA (I think) out of the box. My previous Samsung Galaxy S4 had an output of 2100mA so I'm wondering if I used that charger can the xperia z5 take advantage of the extra mA?
Nope I had to use another charger to get the fast charge up and running
Still with any fast charger i get 1600ma to the z5, while my s5 juiced 1800ma
How are you testing to get these figures?
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How are you testing to get these figures?
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Ampere from play store.
I use that also I think to make a claim like that you need to take all scenario like the phone will drop rate the more it's charged. Mine currently says 1560mah but max is 1610mah that's starting at 77% it would slow down again at 80% I also think that software tests will never be 100% accurate just like all these software benchmark tests that are available.
I think what I'm trying to say without offending anyone is the stock sony charger would be able to achieve 1800ma
Also things to take into consideration is things like if the phone is on and what apps are also using battery
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How are you testing to get these figures?
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I'm just reading from what my charger is telling me. Output @ 1500mA on Sony and 2000mA on a Samsung
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I use that also I think to make a claim like that you need to take all scenario like the phone will drop rate the more it's charged. Mine currently says 1560mah but max is 1610mah that's starting at 77% it would slow down again at 80% I also think that software tests will never be 100% accurate just like all these software benchmark tests that are available.
I think what I'm trying to say without offending anyone is the stock sony charger would be able to achieve 1800ma
Also things to take into consideration is things like if the phone is on and what apps are also using battery
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Can you tell me what the specified output is on your charger? Mine has 1500mA so I doubt you can pull 1800 if it's not designed to do it. My question is that can the Z5 take advantage of a 2000mA charger from Samsung or any other manufacturer.
Ah I apologise I don't actually have a new charger only an older charger I'll have a look at the rating later. It would however accept the Samsung charger I'll have a dig around for the ratings in the data sheets
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Yes u can use 2A chargers wont hurt your phone or battery.
Try it and make comparison how long it takes to fully charge ur phone.
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I'm just reading from what my charger is telling me. Output @ 1500mA on Sony and 2000mA on a Samsung
Can you tell me what the specified output is on your charger? Mine has 1500mA so I doubt you can pull 1800 if it's not designed to do it. My question is that can the Z5 take advantage of a 2000mA charger from Samsung or any other manufacturer.
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My charger is UCH10 and says output 1800mah thanks for this thread I might actually get a higher powered charger now as I never looked at that before
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My charger is UCH10 and says output 1800mah thanks for this thread I might actually get a higher powered charger now as I never looked at that before
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I'm going to use my old samsung galaxy s4 charger in that case. I have no idea why Sony is supplying a mediocre 1.5A charger. Even the 1.8A is still too slow for the current size of batteries in smartphones
I didn't even get a charger with mine as O2 are too cheap to provide one.
I'm using Samsung S6 fast charger and LG G4 normal charger.
Fast charging works very well.
I actually use a Blackberry 2.0 Amp charger, and it definitely charges all my phones (Z5,Z3,Z1) faster than the stock Sony charger. My Sony charger says 1.5 Amp and it's ok, just not as quick.
The Blackberry charger has the added advantage of having a nice long lead, as opposed to the short lead which Sony provides. It is a dedicated charger only though, so you can't use it for file transfers.
Its kind of weird that other users are reaching 2.0A of juice from their chargers, while some are not.
Unfortunately for me, QC does not work. I recently bought a Tronsmart TS-QC1W usb wall charger. it is Qualcomm QC 2.0 certified, and it did not make any difference because the Max Ampere I was only getting is 1540 amp. I also happen to have a power watt meter where I can measure the watts this charger is pulling in from the wall, and it is just getting ~8 watts (meaning 5V x 1.5A = ~8 watts). I only thing I like and is useful with my tronsmart is, I love the long thick usb cable that came with it.
Just incase a dev or anyone is working or curious in this issue, I am using:
Sony Xperia Z5 dual (E6683)
firmware 32.0.A.6.66 (stock, havent updated to the most recent)
Sony UCH20 stock charger
Tronsmart TS-QC1W Qualcomm QC 2.0 certified
Charging Time from 0%-100% = 2rs 15mins
next thing I would try and do is, update my firmware, and hoping that would enable QC for my Z5. Or if that fails, I hope Sony is currently aware of this and that its upcoming marshmallow update will enable QC 2.0.
(BTW, I can confirm that ALL Z5 Premium can reach and pass 2 AMP of juice from a fast charger. I dont have any data from Z5 compact though).
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Its kind of weird that other users are reaching 2.0A of juice from their chargers, while some are not.
Unfortunately for me, QC does not work. I recently bought a Tronsmart TS-QC1W usb wall charger. it is Qualcomm QC 2.0 certified, and it did not make any difference because the Max Ampere I was only getting is 1540 amp. I also happen to have a power watt meter where I can measure the watts this charger is pulling in from the wall, and it is just getting ~8 watts (meaning 5V x 1.5A = ~8 watts). I only thing I like and is useful with my tronsmart is, I love the long thick usb cable that came with it.
Just incase a dev or anyone is working or curious in this issue, I am using:
Sony Xperia Z5 dual (E6683)
firmware 32.0.A.6.66 (stock, havent updated to the most recent)
Sony UCH20 stock charger
Tronsmart TS-QC1W Qualcomm QC 2.0 certified
Charging Time from 0%-100% = 2rs 15mins
next thing I would try and do is, update my firmware, and hoping that would enable QC for my Z5. Or if that fails, I hope Sony is currently aware of this and that its upcoming marshmallow update will enable QC 2.0.
(BTW, I can confirm that ALL Z5 Premium can reach and pass 2 AMP of juice from a fast charger. I dont have any data from Z5 compact though).
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The Z3 Compact series has gone through these same discoveries. Sony (for some reason) doesn't FULLY support QC 2.0 charging speeds. You'll only see about 1.5 amps when charging with the phone on, and maybe a bump to 1.8 when the phone is powered off (not just screen off). Because of this, 2 amp tablet chargers are effectively just as capable as the expensive quick chargers.
To all of you who are using charger other than stock for some extra amps are ruining the battery ? life of your device.
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To all of you who are using charger other than stock for some extra amps are ruining the battery ? life of your device.
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Where's the proof of that?
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Where's the proof of that?
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Because phone can't draw more current than set by manufacturer, doesn't matter whatever the charger you use. But using a higher rating charger can cause more heating, which actually degrade the battery life as it accelerate the reaction inside the battery because of rise in temperature.
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Because phone can't draw more current than set by manufacturer, doesn't matter whatever the charger you use. But using a higher rating charger can cause more heating, which actually degrade the battery life as it accelerate the reaction inside the battery because of rise in temperature.
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There is still no proof that it will cause heating and degrade the battery life though. The phone will only ask for so much draw that it can handle from the charger I'm all good for people correcting something however you need to provide proper proof to show it is a fact
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It is well known and has been proven many times that the faster you charge a battery the hotter it gets and less charge cycles it lasts.
Sometimes it might be necessary to do a quick charge, but i don't think it is a good idea to QC your batteries every day.
In a review site someone claiming confidently that the G4P does support turbo charging despite no mention of this in specs. Does anyone have the G4P and a turbo charger can do a test?
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...despite no mention of this in specs....
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Well, I don't think Motorola really advertised "Turbo" charging for G4 Play.
They advertised something else. Here's what it says on their site:
Moto G Play works with the 10W rapid charger (charger in-box), which gives you 5 hours of battery life in just 15 minutes of charging.
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Source: http://www.motorola.in/products/moto-g-play#battery
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Well, I don't think Motorola really advertised "Turbo" charging for G4 Play.
They advertised something else. Here's what it says on their site:
Source: http://www.motorola.in/products/moto-g-play#battery
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So the charger supplied says 5V and 0.5A which doesn't look like a fast charger.
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So the charger supplied says 5V and 0.5A which doesn't look like a fast charger.
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My supplied charger clearly says OUTPUT: 5.2V===2.0A
Exhibit A is attached
It does not support quickcharger, that works with 9v and 12v i already tried, but the supplied charger charges at 2.0 A. which is fast.
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My supplied charger clearly says OUTPUT: 5.2V===2.0A
Exhibit A is attached
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I am in the USA and bought the USA version XT1607.
The charger looks different it says 5V 0.5A.
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I am in the USA and bought the USA version XT1607.
The charger looks different it says 5V 0.5A.
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Same here, both the Amazon and the non-Amazon version I bought had the 550mAh chargers.
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Same here, both the Amazon and the non-Amazon version I bought had the 550mAh chargers.
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The fact they package with a low spec charger in a $150 box is not a concern. I own dual and quad chargers I carry for phone tablet BT etc.
The question is a specific charger able to charge faster? I looked at the one supplied and it seemed to imply a 5V input then as much Amp as phone can take, which is usually about 1-1.5A til 85%.
Turbo, is I think like QC, it increases the voltage at low battery charge, such a charger would show say 12V or 9V output.
Is there any good charging app to watch what the phone is doing? I have iSmart, QC 2.0 and QC 3.0 devices I can test on.
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Is there any good charging app to watch what the phone is doing? I have iSmart, QC 2.0 and QC 3.0 devices I can test on.
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The way I find best is to not use the phone and use a stopwatch and measure at 15m intervals.
It does take days to be ready with a low charge condition.
App I have used is Ampere but I find it unreliable as the act of using the phone means heat throttling down the charging speed, if you don't use the phone then Ampere sleeps and doesn't monitor.
From what I understand, it does support it but you have to buy an additional charger.
It definitely does some kind of fast charging because my Anker Powercore+ 10,050mAh power block charges it incredibly fast. I don't know what other charging methods the Anker does beyond qc2.0 since I have had the Anker less than 12 hours.
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If this behaves like osprey (which I expect - I haven't yet examined the kernel), the hardware doesn't support the Qualcomm high voltage quick charging, but it does support regular charging up to 800 mA. The weak 550 mA charger bundled with the North American variants will not make the most of it, but a 1A charger or better should get full charging performance.
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...but it does support regular charging up to 800 mA...
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So does this mean the 2.0 A bundled chargers are bottlenecked, like they support 2.0 A and the phone supports only till 800 mA...am I thinking correct?
My XT1607 US unlocked retail version came with a 5V 550mA labeled charge plug. I used a cable and power plug from another device that rated at 5.2V and 1.35A and it drew about 1.4A from it. Then I dug out another USB adapter rated 5.3V, 2A . It consumed 1.78A and it was 80% charged at the time. That would make for some much faster charging than the original plug. Wouldn't matter much if you just plug it in overnight to charge.
Anyone confirm if the it supports QC 2.0? Only thing wrong e phone is slow charge from supplied.
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I have used the turbo charger supplied with Moto G3 Turbo and it charges much faster than the one supplied in box. So yes it supports turbocharging but you need to get the charger elsewhere.
MaanasDwivedi said:
I have used the turbo charger supplied with Moto G3 Turbo and it charges much faster than the one supplied in box. So yes it supports turbocharging but you need to get the charger elsewhere.
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Logic fail. The supplied charge is feeble like 0.5A so anything like 1A or 2A is better.
That does NOT mean turbo is supported.
When I plug my G4 Play into my Anker 4 port power supply and then into a kilowatt meter, it draws 10 watts. If we work it backwards, that's 5v and 2 amps (however, need to account for line loss, transformer loss and other losses). A watt is a watt, doesn't matter what the voltage or amperage is, as W = V x A.
This phone charges much quicker than my old Moto G second gen, which would take close to 2 hours to fully recharge. I have had this phone recharge in as little as an hour from around 30%. It's a shame that the SD 410 chip supports QC 2.0 but Motorola didn't enable it. It seems to have QC 1.0 (which is the 10 watt, 5v @ 2amp rating).
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When I plug my G4 Play into my Anker 4 port power supply and then into a kilowatt meter, it draws 10 watts. If we work it backwards, that's 5v and 2 amps (however, need to account for line loss, transformer loss and other losses). A watt is a watt, doesn't matter what the voltage or amperage is, as W = V x A.
This phone charges much quicker than my old Moto G second gen, which would take close to 2 hours to fully recharge. I have had this phone recharge in as little as an hour from around 30%. It's a shame that the SD 410 chip supports QC 2.0 but Motorola didn't enable it. It seems to have QC 1.0 (which is the 10 watt, 5v @ 2amp rating).
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Regular USB is 2A 5V 10W.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB
Standard USB 2.0 is 500mA
USB 3.0 is 900mA
There is a new subset standard called USB power delivery, it's used for newer devices.
Quick charge 1.0 was 2 amp at 5v.
There's a little more info here. https://www.easyacc.com/media-center/quick-charge-3-0-vs-2-0-vs-1-0/
These phones charging at 2 amps is technically quick charge, whether it's the 1.0 revision or not is really down to licensing and stuff. They don't charge at 2.0 speeds unfortunately. Even though the chipset supports it.
If yes, Then let me know which brand of charger should i buy!
No.
I think it only supports QC 2.0, though the QC 2.0 charger does not come out of the box. But imo, who needs fast charging when the battery life can last up to 2-3 days with this phone.
in it's specs sheet in gsmarena quick charge 3.0 is listed. That's why i asked.
anyway, what's the best quick charge 2.0 charger out there? and will that charge the device faster than the original charger?
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in it's specs sheet in gsmarena quick charge 3.0 is listed. That's why i asked.
anyway, what's the best quick charge 2.0 charger out there? and will that charge the device faster than the original charger?
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The 625 snapdragon processor does support Quick Charge 3.0, but Xiaomi prohibits using it i guess to cut cost, i know some user who try to use QC 3.0 on this phone but it doesn't work, to be honest i'm also not sure about QC 2.0, my advice is you should try testing it first by borrowing QC 2.0 charger with some of your friends/relatives that has QC 2.0 charger before attempting to buy one.
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The 625 snapdragon processor does support Quick Charge 3.0, but Xiaomi prohibits using it i guess to cut cost, i know some user who try to use QC 3.0 on this phone but it doesn't work, to be honest i'm also not sure about QC 2.0, my advice is you should try testing it first by borrowing QC 2.0 charger with some of your friends/relatives that has QC 2.0 charger before attempting to buy one.
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No QC 2.0 support for me, tested with new xiaomi powerbank 10000mAh, ampere show max usb current 500 mAh instead of 2000 mAh. However from measurement I can get 1700-2000mAh so still charging fast enough.
Redmi 4 supports Fast Charging (i.e. about 2A), not any form of Quick Charge. The chipset supports it, but as Xiaomi have decided not to pay Qualcomm the royalties they charge for QC, it's disabled at a low level in the phone. It might be possible to enable it via custom kernel, but I don't think it's been done yet if so.
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No QC 2.0 support for me, tested with new xiaomi powerbank 10000mAh, ampere show max usb current 500 mAh instead of 2000 mAh. However from measurement I can get 1700-2000mAh so still charging fast enough.
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you mean that from the measurement you're getting a CURRENT reading of 1.700 to 2.000 Amps, right? Because mAh is the capacity measurement while A or mA is the current measurement?
To be on topic, the hardware inside (global version - snapdragon) and the battery support QC v1-3 specs but quickcharge is disabled.
The phone will charge at 1.8A or 1800 mA for about 10 minutes between 20% and 55%. battery capacity.
the current raise up while you changed to a qc 3.0 adapter.
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the current raise up while you changed to a qc 3.0 adapter.
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CURRENT WILL NOT RAISE ABOVE 2A by now. ONLY VOLTAGE WILL BE INCREASE, but with decreasing current.
I tested a bit :
with QC 3 compactible Aukey PA-T16 charger, Ampere shows 2030mA
with Anker 40W 5 port charger Ampere shows 1830mA.
I have a Redmi 4 (standard edition) and I also have a USB Ammeter/Voltmeter which I can use to measure actual voltage and current flow into the device.
Using a standard 2A charger, the device accepts 4.9-5.1v (average 5.0v) at 1.5A (1500ma), and rarely exceeds this due to the voltage drop of the charger circuit /transformer in the wall plug.
Using a Quick Charge 3.0 charger (Capable of 5v, 9v, 12v and dynamically 5v-12v for QC3.0), I was able to charge the Redmi 4 at 6.2v/2.1A. The peak voltage was 6.24V and peak current 2.4A (momentary).
The Redmi 4 will charge at 6.2v and 2.1A with a Quick Charge 3.0 compatible charger when the battery is totally flat. As with all batteries the current slowly decreases as the internal resistance of the battery increases as it charges.
This is 13 Watts of power, 1.7 times higher than the 7.5 watts provided by the included '2A' charger. Thus, while it does not officially have QC3.0 capability, the device is still able to utilise a slight boost from the chipset's compatibility with higher voltages. Realistically, this means you could cut down on the charge time by around 1/3, and even moreso when charging from, for example, 0%-30%.
Can i use a quallacom quick charge charger rated at [email protected] (i guess what turbo power gives is 9v at 1.67A)
P.s both give charging current of nearly 2500ma in ampere app,my original moto charger is not wrking and i am out of warranty
Yes I use my samsung charger (9v 2amp) on my G4 all the time shows as turbo charger when plugged in.
Yes, you can use a QC 1.0, 2.0, or 3.0 charger with this phone... although I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery. When you use a QC 1.0 or 2.0 charger, the phone has to step down to that version, which will still charge faster than a "standard" charger, but it will increase battery temperatures while charging significantly which over extended use can reduce the overall life and capacity of the battery.
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Yes, you can use a QC 1.0, 2.0, or 3.0 charger with this phone... although I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery. When you use a QC 1.0 or 2.0 charger, the phone has to step down to that version, which will still charge faster than a "standard" charger, but it will increase battery temperatures while charging significantly which over extended use can reduce the overall life and capacity of the battery.
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Its a charger designed for sd 625 based phone only
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Its a charger designed for sd 625 based phone only
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What is?
I don't think you understand, there is no charger specifically for the SD625 or any other chipset... this is merely Qualcomm's Quick Charge technology, but Moto/Lenovo didn't want to pay the licensing/royalty or whatever else to call it that, so they call it TurboPower. I have a Qualcomm QC 2.0 adapter here at my desk and if I connect it, it clearly says "TurboPower Connected".
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What is?
I don't think you understand, there is no charger specifically for the SD625 or any other chipset... this is merely Qualcomm's Quick Charge technology, but Moto/Lenovo didn't want to pay the licensing/royalty or whatever else to call it that, so they call it TurboPower. I have a Qualcomm QC 2.0 adapter here at my desk and if I connect it, it clearly says "TurboPower Connected".
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By sd 625 i mean the quickcharge version which sd 625 supports by default...
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By sd 625 i mean the quickcharge version which sd 625 supports by default...
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Again, I don't understand what you mean. The SD625 support Quick Charge 3.0, but the charger supplied with the device is a QC 2.0 compliant adapter that is labeled "TurboPower", at least in the US. If I connect a Samsung GS7 to the Moto charger, it shows Fast Charging as well.
I am not trying to be argumentative, but I don't understand what are you trying to say here.
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Yes, you can use a QC 1.0, 2.0, or 3.0 charger with this phone... although I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery. When you use a QC 1.0 or 2.0 charger, the phone has to step down to that version, which will still charge faster than a "standard" charger, but it will increase battery temperatures while charging significantly which over extended use can reduce the overall life and capacity of the battery.
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But Moto g5 plus doesn't support quick charge 3.0. I read somewhere that it supports only quick charge 2.0
McKellen said:
But Moto g5 plus doesn't support quick charge 3.0. I read somewhere that it supports only quick charge 2.0
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According to reputable reviews, it's Quick Charge 3.0:
https://www.androidcentral.com/moto-g5-plus
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/03/moto-g5-plus-android-smartphone-review.html
However, "officially" according to Lenovo, it supports Quick Charge 2.0 but even when asked directly they do not state that it does or does not support 3.0.
I have a USB diagnostic device but I don't know if that will tell me the answer, since I don't own a 3.0 capable charger currently.
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According to reputable reviews, it's Quick Charge 3.0:
https://www.androidcentral.com/moto-g5-plus
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/03/moto-g5-plus-android-smartphone-review.html
However, "officially" according to Lenovo, it supports Quick Charge 2.0 but even when asked directly they do not state that it does or does not support 3.0.
I have a USB diagnostic device but I don't know if that will tell me the answer, since I don't own a 3.0 capable charger currently.
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I read this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/accessories/chargers-t3584554 Why doesn't Moto just tell us which charger should we use?
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I read this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/accessories/chargers-t3584554 Why doesn't Moto just tell us which charger should we use?
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Honestly? I'm guessing it's a royalty or licensing thing, they can't say "Quick Charge 3.0" because they didn't pay the fee.
Just my guess... I have nothing to back that up.
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Honestly? I'm guessing it's a royalty or licensing thing, they can't say "Quick Charge 3.0" because they didn't pay the fee.
Just my guess... I have nothing to back that up.
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Have you ever tried the Quick charge 3.0? Some users report that quick charge 3.0 doesn't work. I haven't tried it coz I don't have the QC 3.0 charger
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Have you ever tried the Quick charge 3.0? Some users report that quick charge 3.0 doesn't work. I haven't tried it coz I don't have the QC 3.0 charger
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Dude, don't double post. It's a waste of space, time, and creates pointless threads.
QC3 Chargers can use QC2 to charge devices. Whether or not the phone supports it is irrelevant.
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Dude, don't double post. It's a waste of space, time, and creates pointless threads.
QC3 Chargers can use QC2 to charge devices. Whether or not the phone supports it is irrelevant.
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I'm just asking coz QC 2.0 charger is cheaper then QC 3.0 charger
And both will work fine. A 8 second Google search will tell you this. Try looking before asking!
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And both will work fine. A 8 second Google search will tell you this. Try looking before asking!
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I know, I know but Acejavelin said: "I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery."
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I know, I know but Acejavelin said: "I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery."
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Ok, using "highly" and "much better" here might have been a bit overkill... From 1.0 to 2.0 the difference is huge, from 2.0 to 3.0 not so much, especially on a device like this that isn't drawing a ton of current consistently.
Is a 3.0 charger better for the longevity of the battery, and thus the device, over the long term? Yes. Is it significant enough to pay the extra over a 2.0 charger? That's your call... After a year or so of consistent use it might not even make a significant difference in battery life, it may add a month ot two to the longevity of the phone over it's lifespan, no one can say for sure because each case is unique.
My chargers, except car chargers, far out last my phones, I've had the same charger on my nightstand for 4-5 years now (seriously, it's from a Blackberry Playbook) so it's an investment...
I don't understand the issue here... A good QC 3.0 charger is a few bucks more than a 2.0 charger, and if you look you can get one for $10-$12, so is two or three dollars worth worrying about this?
If you are just concerned about what is best for the battery, never use a quick charger at all...
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Ok, using "highly" and "much better" here might have been a bit overkill... From 1.0 to 2.0 the difference is huge, from 2.0 to 3.0 not so much, especially on a device like this that isn't drawing a ton of current consistently.
Is a 3.0 charger better for the longevity of the battery, and thus the device, over the long term? Yes. Is it significant enough to pay the extra over a 2.0 charger? That's your call... After a year or so of consistent use it might not even make a significant difference in battery life, it may add a month ot two to the longevity of the phone over it's lifespan, no one can say for sure because each case is unique.
My chargers, except car chargers, far out last my phones, I've had the same charger on my nightstand for 4-5 years now (seriously, it's from a Blackberry Playbook) so it's an investment...
I don't understand the issue here... A good QC 3.0 charger is a few bucks more than a 2.0 charger, and if you look you can get one for $10-$12, so is two or three dollars worth worrying about this?
If you are just concerned about what is best for the battery, never use a quick charger at all...
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I use right now Aukey QC 2.0 charger and I consider buying QC 3.0 charger so thank you for the explanation.
McKellen said:
I use right now Aukey QC 2.0 charger and I consider buying QC 3.0 charger so thank you for the explanation.
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That is my charger at work... If you have a QC 2.0 charger, don't bother getting a new one. If you are buying one, get a 3.0 one.
I know this thread is a little dated and I'm a late comer to this thread, but I just bought the g5 plus on a black friday deal at best buy $300 down to $225, US xt1678 variant, 64gb storage and 4gb ram, I jsut could not resist it for that price, and....it was actually cheaper than the 32gb storage 2gb ram variant which was listed at $229
Anyways on to my question, this is for acejavelin. You said your qc 2.0 worked and came up as showing turbo charging (not just normal charging)? I hope I am reading this correctly. Also is this one of those Qualcomm® Quick Charge 2.0 chargers, that's what I was looking at buying for my car and was curious if it worked. Just checking to make sure I'm reading the thread correctly.
I recently just bought a 2.1 fast charge lighter plugin, but guess what, it doesn't turbocharge only normal charge. I tried with the cord that came with the phone, as well as 2 other cords and still only normal charge for each one.
Now with my wall charger (the provided turbocharger that came with the g5 plus) in the house, all 3 cords work and show as turbocharge as long as I am using the provided moto turbo charge wall charger.
I also was curious and tried an old samsung charger that I used on I think it was the s4, last samsung I owned lol. With my nexus 5x which has USB-C worked wonderfully with it, but sadly turbo charge does not work so well with the samsung wall charger, because it does not show as turbo charge, but only normal charge on the g5 plus.
I was studying this problem, people charge the phone with QC3.0 chargers and the phone stops charging, what really happens is that the zener diode that has the charging plate for security reasons (stabilizes the load voltage) Stop charging because the zener it's short-circuited (QC gives more voltage than it supports, is designed for 5v, there is QC of 12v or more). A possible solution is to cut the zener. (It works again but without voltage stabilization, it would be better to replace it but it is very complicated).
I leave some images for the one who has the problem and does not get the spare.
There is also a zener diode on the other side, on the motherboard, if cutting the zener in charge plate does not serve, check the motherboard zener.
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Thanks!
Is this problem occur due to qc 2.0?
Thank you for the tip!
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I was studying this problem, people charge the phone with QC3.0 chargers and the phone stops charging, what really happens is that the zener diode that has the charging plate for security reasons (stabilizes the load voltage) Stop charging because the zener it's short-circuited (QC gives more voltage than it supports, is designed for 5v, there is QC of 12v or more). A possible solution is to cut the zener. (It works again but without voltage stabilization, it would be better to replace it but it is very complicated).
I leave some images for the one who has the problem and does not get the spare.
There is also a zener diode on the other side, on the motherboard, if cutting the zener in charge plate does not serve, check the motherboard zener.
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Thank you for the tip!
To get back to life my redmi note3 ... if it were not for you XDA would have lost my device ... because here in Brazil no technician could solve this problem ... thank you and MERRY CHRISTMAS to everyone!:good:
Leo32guarulhos said:
Thank you for the tip!
To get back to life my redmi note3 ... if it were not for you XDA would have lost my device ... because here in Brazil no technician could solve this problem ... thank you and MERRY CHRISTMAS to everyone!:good:
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happy that it worked, happy holidays!
kaushal64 said:
Is this problem occur due to qc 2.0?
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Processor support qc2.0 and 3.0 but hardware added by xiaomi not. Use 5v 2A chargers aka Qc1.0
How do you cut the diode?
EDIT: Nevermind, I just used a needle and used it to grind the diode in half. And it worked! Thank you!
animeallen said:
How do you cut the diode?
EDIT: Nevermind, I just used a needle and used it to grind the diode in half. And it worked! Thank you!
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Perfect!
animeallen said:
How do you cut the diode?
EDIT: Nevermind, I just used a needle and used it to grind the diode in half. And it worked! Thank you!
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question, do you used a QC2.0 or QC3.0 to burn the diode?
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question, do you used a QC2.0 or QC3.0 to burn the diode?
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Can't really answer that question right now since I'm not sure. It was a car charger my brother bought, it was definitely Quickcharge, just not sure which version. I'll let you know once I check.
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Can't really answer that question right now since I'm not sure. It was a car charger my brother bought, it was definitely Quickcharge, just not sure which version. I'll let you know once I check.
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Is there any video guide to follow to perform this. My phone is not charging too, all of a sudden.
AravindhStanley said:
Is there any video guide to follow to perform this. My phone is not charging too, all of a sudden.
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download zip with pictures, someone commented that I cut them with a needle, maybe @animeallen can guide you...
On the other hand, did you burn it with a QC2.0 or 3.0 loader? helps us to prevent, if you can answer the poll better
Frenzi2012 said:
I was studying this problem, people charge the phone with QC3.0 chargers and the phone stops charging, what really happens is that the zener diode that has the charging plate for security reasons (stabilizes the load voltage) Stop charging because the zener it's short-circuited (QC gives more voltage than it supports, is designed for 5v, there is QC of 12v or more). A possible solution is to cut the zener. (It works again but without voltage stabilization, it would be better to replace it but it is very complicated).
I leave some images for the one who has the problem and does not get the spare.
There is also a zener diode on the other side, on the motherboard, if cutting the zener in charge plate does not serve, check the motherboard zener.
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Not sure but QC 3.0 charger does not charge your device at 9V or 12V until your device too has QC 3.0 qualified hardware(QC 3.0 circuit or equivalent) and software(kernel).
Cases like yours might be due to QC charger quality, which one did you use?
There are many low budget QC 3.0 chargers available like Aukey , Blitzwolf. I have Blitzwolf S9, charge my RN3 with it occasionally. And also I use MI Powerbank 2 (not 2i) for everyday charging and it is QC 3.0 input and output. Cannot check if my Zener diode is shorted but no changes in charging till now.
Charger's QC specialized circuit determine how much voltage (5v or 9v or 12v) and also current (~2A @5v or ~3A @5v or ~2A @9V etc.) should be given to device after detecting phone's charging circuit. So low budget QC 3.0 chargers may cause voltage or current rise.
And for RN3, do not set current (in any kernel) at 2.4A (it will cause damage due heat which is main culprit in long run) , 2A is sufficient but kernels with some ROMs (like NOS 8.1 for me), it charges at 1.4-1.5A. In such case, you can flash other kernels for fast (2A) charging.
My Mi Powerbank 2 charged my phone at almost (2A) in RR, Lineage 14.1 , lineage 15, pixel experience 8.1 roms.
Now in NOS 8.1 it charges at 1.4A in average.
palbadi said:
Not sure but QC 3.0 charger does not charge your device at 9V or 12V until your device too has QC 3.0 qualified hardware(QC 3.0 circuit or equivalent) and software(kernel).
Cases like yours might be due to QC charger quality, which one did you use?
There are many low budget QC 3.0 chargers available like Aukey , Blitzwolf. I have Blitzwolf S9, charge my RN3 with it occasionally. And also I use MI Powerbank 2 (not 2i) for everyday charging and it is QC 3.0 input and output. Cannot check if my Zener diode is shorted but no changes in charging till now.
Charger's QC specialized circuit determine how much voltage (5v or 9v or 12v) and also current (~2A @5v or ~3A @5v or ~2A @9V etc.) should be given to device after detecting phone's charging circuit. So low budget QC 3.0 chargers may cause voltage or current rise.
And for RN3, do not set current (in any kernel) at 2.4A (it will cause damage due heat which is main culprit in long run) , 2A is sufficient but kernels with some ROMs (like NOS 8.1 for me), it charges at 1.4-1.5A. In such case, you can flash other kernels for fast (2A) charging.
My Mi Powerbank 2 charged my phone at almost (2A) in RR, Lineage 14.1 , lineage 15, pixel experience 8.1 roms.
Now in NOS 8.1 it charges at 1.4A in average.
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For me the chargers detect the snapdragon 650 and send more power, the zener diode must support 10w only( i think no found info), I have comments above saying that they were burned with chargers QC, I'm trying to determine if qc 3.0 or 2.0
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palbadi said:
Not sure but QC 3.0 charger does not charge your device at 9V or 12V until your device too has QC 3.0 qualified hardware(QC 3.0 circuit or equivalent) and software(kernel).
Cases like yours might be due to QC charger quality, which one did you use?
There are many low budget QC 3.0 chargers available like Aukey , Blitzwolf. I have Blitzwolf S9, charge my RN3 with it occasionally. And also I use MI Powerbank 2 (not 2i) for everyday charging and it is QC 3.0 input and output. Cannot check if my Zener diode is shorted but no changes in charging till now.
Charger's QC specialized circuit determine how much voltage (5v or 9v or 12v) and also current (~2A @5v or ~3A @5v or ~2A @9V etc.) should be given to device after detecting phone's charging circuit. So low budget QC 3.0 chargers may cause voltage or current rise.
And for RN3, do not set current (in any kernel) at 2.4A (it will cause damage due heat which is main culprit in long run) , 2A is sufficient but kernels with some ROMs (like NOS 8.1 for me), it charges at 1.4-1.5A. In such case, you can flash other kernels for fast (2A) charging.
My Mi Powerbank 2 charged my phone at almost (2A) in RR, Lineage 14.1 , lineage 15, pixel experience 8.1 roms.
Now in NOS 8.1 it charges at 1.4A in average.
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i using NOS 8.1 with stock kernel and original MI charger 2A 5V, charging speed 1998mA from 10% to 50 % then slowdown to 1600mA aprox and 90 to 100% 600mA aprox
I activated 2.4A option in whatever kernel I used, but I dont rely on it too much.
Primary charger is HTC 1A, only use my Aukey QC2.0 when I need quick refuel. And my phone still rock stable though
Never burned mine out but I have a QC 3.0 charger and when I plug it to the phone it charges at the normal rate of 5v 2A, so I rarely use the QC port on the charger since it's the same as using the stock charger or normal ports, my guess is there are many custom kernels causing this damage, and I think there was one rare miui beta that enabled it at one time, I'm not sure if there is fake QC chargers but I believe real / official ones the circuitry is made by qualcomm and it does a series of checks to see if the device can support it or not-which it never did activate on my QC charger at least (I have a Choetech QC charger that cost around $30), which was pretty costly considering I never got to use the QC feature, but I think it's well built and never gives problems so in a way it was worth it and it's available if I get a device with proper QC support.
https://www.choetech.com/product/usb-charging-station-with-2-quick-charge-3.0-6port-us.html
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Never burned mine out but I have a QC 3.0 charger and when I plug it to the phone it charges at the normal rate of 5v 2A, so I rarely use the QC port on the charger since it's the same as using the stock charger or normal ports, my guess is there are many custom kernels causing this damage, and I think there was one rare miui beta that enabled it at one time, I'm not sure if there is fake QC chargers but I believe real / official ones the circuitry is made by qualcomm and it does a series of checks to see if the device can support it or not-which it never did activate on my QC charger at least (I have a Choetech QC charger that cost around $30), which was pretty costly considering I never got to use the QC feature, but I think it's well built and never gives problems so in a way it was worth it and it's available if I get a device with proper QC support.
https://www.choetech.com/product/usb-charging-station-with-2-quick-charge-3.0-6port-us.html
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kernel can allow charger to pump in high current
many users have faced this
some carelessly do it knowingly
hence, AGNi limits it at max 2100mA no matter how badly users want to use QC currents.
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