Even the mid- low end Moto G4 Plus received June Security Patch but not so in the Z Play.
And it's due to the upcoming 7.1.1 update for the Z Play which includes June Security Patch also.
It's already july 7, So when will we get 7.1.1?
Is there any news about when it's releasing?
Because due to that monthly updates are also stopped!
Yash24 said:
Even the mid- low end Moto G4 Plus received June Security Patch but not so in the Z Play.
And it's due to the upcoming 7.1.1 update for the Z Play which includes June Security Patch also.
It's already july 7, So when will we get 7.1.1?
Is there any news about when it's releasing?
Because due to that monthly updates are also stopped!
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You can sideload 7.1.1 since weeks. Then you have it. Normally not a big deal.
How does it feel to be wrong?
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Not wrong at all.
Evwn it's great that Motorola/Lenovo is still providing updates to its devices in time.
Just giving me sentences support.
You should calm down. You're complaining about everything, even contacting Moto for ridiculous things like rounded icons.
Device is quite old, z2 is out but z1 is still getting updates. Slight delay is not reason to panic or opening a new topic.
Btw, how you're going to survive when Moto really ends support?
Get a life and use your device at is.
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You should calm down. You're complaining about everything, even contacting Moto for ridiculous things like rounded icons.
Device is quite old, z2 is out but z1 is still getting updates. Slight delay is not reason to panic or opening a new topic.
Btw, how you're going to survive when Moto really ends support?
Get a life and use your device at is.
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Point!
If things go the way they should. Google's 8.0 release will introduce an API at kernel level (project treble) so that phone manufacturers who get the the altered source from soc vendors can build their source on top of soc source more quickly. This will make OTAs quicker to release. But knowing every company is just going for profits they'll still drop old devices at the same rate.
This feature comes just for new devices (maybe witz Z3, Z3 Play and so on), but not with the 2017 line. If we want this, we should wait to 2018 devices. Maybe we get 8.0, but not with all features.
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Ok guys, since we're all waiting in here, seemed like a good idea to start this thread... If anyone has any 'good' news they'd like to share about the update, please do so here
Also, when the update is out, would be cool to have everyone post their comments and experiences in this thread, keeping it tight!
At this point, we don't seem to have anything set in stone on when this update is coming, I'm just hoping on a couple of good fixes with the update, like the auto brightness issue, camera optimisations, smoothness/lag issues etc..
What do you guys hope to get to see in the new update?
I hope it wont take long.
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I'm kinda happy with my Z5 so far (I encounter bugs and issues here and there though). I'm a little bit less impressed with Sony when it comes to fixing bugs and releasing updates.
Mashmallow release date: October 5, 2015
October... November... December... 1/2 January... still no release date. I'm not talking about the actual ROM, just about a release date... (January? February?)
And I'm pretty sure they received the Marshmallow sources way before October 5th and they use a pretty-near stock ROM. What's taking so long compared to, for example, Motorola or LG (already on Marshmallow)? I mean, yeah the KitKat -> Lollipop transition was pretty steep, with a lot of new code, but Marshmallow and Lollipop are close cousins, use the same design, ART runtime, etc.
Or maybe it's just me; After using custom roms for years, and not having to wait that long after a manufacturer to update its phones, I became impatient :|
At least Sony update their phones I'm happy to wait when it comes it comes I'm tired of expecting. We had 2 year updates with the original XZ so I'm more than happy
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I don't understand why the Z3 series has the Marshmallow concept and Z5 doesn't.
Waiting is okay for me, as long as the update brings something big, like new feautres. But at least Sony should tell us when they're going to release Marshmallow - it's now a bit long time already.
I hope to see new redesigned UI as current one is really boring and these colorfull icons in menus are no longer elegant to be honest, it does not look consistent to me any longer.
Camera blur fix and low light improvements along with 4K 60fps and intelligent stady shot are expected.
Battery life for sure needs to be improved as well as lags and response of the phone.
Bug fixes please.
Dream Wishes? Old Timescape in new rewamped design
The most important is the manual camera, or at least return of iso on sony manual camera app
Phazonclash said:
Mashmallow release date: October 5, 2015
October... November... December... 1/2 January... still no release date. I'm not talking about the actual ROM, just about a release date... (January? February?)
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They keeping it temporary exclusive for the Z6 launch. (lol)
Ok I'm out.
It's the same every time Just wait à little more to be sure to have à good rom. Z3 users already bêta test it for us..
Btw where did you see October for Z5 MM release ?
You can monitor this thread cause this guy gbil work at sony always have true info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3261154
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They keeping it temporary exclusive for the Z6 launch. (lol)
Ok I'm out.
It's the same every time Just wait à little more to be sure to have à good rom. Z3 users already bêta test it for us..
Btw where did you see October for Z5 MM release ?
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Marshmallow was released by google on October 5th 2015...
It's a shame because I'm waiting for the marshmallow update to see if it's worth me keeping this phone or selling and getting a nexus 6p
Sony never promised MM to release in 2015 for the Z5 lineup, according to sources the update is going to be released this month.
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It's a shame because I'm waiting for the marshmallow update to see if it's worth me keeping this phone or selling and getting a nexus 6p
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I'm thinking the same thing, either swapping it or selling it for either a 6P or a G4 (or even my previous Moto X Style I swapped for this device)
They need to fix and improve a lot of stuff for the device for me to keep it..
It's been reported that the new firmware bound for Sony Xperia Z5 and Xperia Z4 in Japan has been certified by the Wi-Fi Alliance, a process that is needed to for OTA software update, so hang in there folks =)
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It's been reported that the new firmware bound for Sony Xperia Z5 and Xperia Z4 in Japan has been certified by the Wi-Fi Alliance, a process that is needed to for OTA software update, so hang in there folks =)
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Any links to that statement? Who reported it?
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Any links to that statement? Who reported it?
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http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/12/1...rtified-for-japanese-xperia-z4-and-z5-models/
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It was, like, a month ago... Nothing new.
I have marshmallow on my 6P and I tried the concept on the Z3 and it's not that much of a change. It does bring native fingerprint scanner support that hopefully Sony will bring forward with their own scanner. Also adopted SD storage with it's a bit of a mess on its own.
Another thing I've noticed, because app uptake for new versions of android is slow (right now about 5% of people are on marshmallow) there's a lot of bugs to be ironed out by devs at the beginning therefore IMHO is much better to get onto the new big releases a few months later after Google puts them out.
I think Sony does a fine job with all this. By the time they came out with Lollipop most bugs had been ironed out and they quickly brought it up to 5.1.1.
Anyone have a guess or idea on when 7.0 will arrive on the Pure Edition?
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Anyone have a guess or idea on when 7.0 will arrive on the Pure Edition?
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Stock OTA? Probably in Novemberish December like Marshmallow did. Custom roms? Prob late September early October
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Stock OTA? Probably in Novemberish December like Marshmallow did. Custom roms? Prob late September early October
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Do you think Motorola will really pump out the update so quickly now that Lenovo owns them instead of Google?
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Do you think Motorola will really pump out the update so quickly now that Lenovo owns them instead of Google?
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If Lenovo is smart, it will happen on this time frame. After all, this was one of the selling points of this phone and brand. I can understand their stance on quarterly security updates vice monthly, so I don't think it is indication of any delay to be expected. Having recently acquired the Moto line, failure to meet this expectation would be bad for business. My only hope is that the level of quality fit future phones remains intact. I have had the bad luck of being burned by both a laptop and windows tablet by them. Both had mobos that quit within a few months of the year warranty being up.
It shouldn't take more than 2 months after the release for nexus which means in november ; marshmallow was released fir nexus devices in october and our moto recieved it in december! Actually I believe that it shoudn't take more than a month ! I mean the job is pretty easy for lenovo! No modding no UI changes..... It's pretty much stock android All it takes is a clean build ! It isn't that different from making an update for nexus devices!
Moto has already released the list of devices getting O ,some weeks ago.
Today, I was with chat with the moto representative, trying to get to know the timeline for O Update in the Z Play.
And, yes she told that it will get Very Soon.
She is assuring that it'll definitely get it Very soon.
Then i reconfirmed the device and asked if it'll get before 2017,and yes it'll definitely get before (Within)2017.
Error: By mistake i have written "before 2017" actually it's "Within 2017".
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I'll believe when I'll see - Moto is not very trustworthy as for updates. I've been waiting for Moto X Force update more than half a year (to 7.x), my Wife is still waiting for that 7.x update for Moto X Play, so they promising a lot, but have problem with delivering...
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I'll believe when I'll see - Moto is not very trustworthy as for updates. I've been waiting for Moto X Force update more than half a year (to 7.x), my Wife is still waiting for that 7.x update for Moto X Play, so they promising a lot, but have problem with delivering...
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That is the case with Moto X force but it'll not happen with the Z Series as it was released by lenovorola and not Motorola.
Well, as a matter of fact, I don't really care - Oreo hasn't got any interesting, revolutionary or even evolutionary changes, that I'll be looking for. For me it should be 7.2, not 8.x.
I wouldn't count on that considering the fact how long it took them to update form 7.0 to 7.1.1 and that we're still lagging over a month behind with security updates. On the other hand, 8.0 has own set of issues now and sometimes it's better to wait for patched version than just rush things.
Exactly, some people are just bugging vendor to provide update ASAP and then complain about bugs. Ridiculous. I would rather wait for 8.1 or similar instead of stuck with 8.0.
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Well, not quite. If vendor is able and known for releasing fast updates then sure, update straigh away and then do small incremenetal ones as fast as possible as soon as bugs are found. That would be ideal. Sadly, this rule rarely apply here and vendors tend to release bugged firmware and then take another couple months to fix the problems.
Even you're not agree at first, later you explained exactly what I meant. Choosing between getting buggy 8.0 and then nothing for months or ever, or wait a bit longer and get bug free 8.x. I'm choosing second option.
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Exactly, some people are just bugging vendor to provide update ASAP and then complain about bugs. Ridiculous. I would rather wait for 8.1 or similar instead of stuck with 8.0.
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I agree. It is better to wait for a bug fix. :good:
Well, he or she never confirmed the 2017, you just want to read it that way. What is confirmed, is the "soon" (Motorola-soon)
And I wouldn't give too much on the word of a support employee.
For sure will not get update "before 2017"
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For sure will not get update "before 2017"
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Hehe it's "Before 2018".
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Hehe it's "Before 2018".
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That is correct.
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Well, as a matter of fact, I don't really care - Oreo hasn't got any interesting, revolutionary or even evolutionary changes, that I'll be looking for. For me it should be 7.2, not 8.x.
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It removes FUSE, replacing it by SDCardFS! That means:
- All file system accesses will be faster (probably about 20%).
- The old bug not being able to set a timestamp is said to be gone.
This is a change which I'm hoping for since start of 2009 when they introduced that bug with Android 4.0, extending it to all file systems with Android 4.4. This is my main reason for rooting every device (beside easy backup possibilities).
I'm glad there is finally something came when I clicked the update button after a long time. And here it is, February security update after skipping January and releasing it after mid March, what a great speed of updates. I was hoping for Oreo but Motorola wants to take their time I think. Expected to get Oreo by mid April or they'll just troll us by pushing a March security patch.
Update is of 57mb if you're wondering.
It's ridiculous how the heavily skinned S8 gets Oreo way before near stock Android Moto. Nokia on the other hand is already on 8.1. I hope Moto upgrade directly to 8.1 if they're taking this long.
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It's ridiculous how the heavily skinned S8 gets Oreo way before near stock Android Moto. Nokia on the other hand is already on 8.1. I hope Moto upgrade directly to 8.1 if they're taking this long.
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It's not about skinning, it's about priorities - Moto Z Play is almost 2-year non-flagship device, so you should be happy, that you'll get update. Moto Z2 Force, which is newest flagship is already on Oreo for some time...
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It's ridiculous how the heavily skinned S8 gets Oreo way before near stock Android Moto. Nokia on the other hand is already on 8.1. I hope Moto upgrade directly to 8.1 if they're taking this long.
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It's 8.0 and as pointed out this phone is already old and a non flagship. Comparing this to a S8 is like comparing apples to oranges.
Apple is not on Android but oranges may be
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uchihakurtz said:
It's ridiculous how the heavily skinned S8 gets Oreo way before near stock Android Moto. Nokia on the other hand is already on 8.1. I hope Moto upgrade directly to 8.1 if they're taking this long.
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I read about project treble, it seems the problem with slow updates is vendor implementation. Lenovo just want to slow updates for older phones so people will get frustrated and buy their new phones. It's just a theory, maybe something else is the problem for slow updates. I think in couple of months they'll push last updates to MZP, no expectations for Android P because how slow they are pushing updates, it seems like they just want to get rid of their older devices. It's a common market parctice so I don't have any problem but thanks to XDA developers for making custom roms so users can enjoy new android in older phones too.
They used to be so fast when they were Motorola.. now they are a Lenovo company and SLOW AS HELL.
The phone feels snappier after this security update... maybe I'm dreaming
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They used to be so fast when they were Motorola.. now they are a Lenovo company and SLOW AS HELL.
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But still going strong. As said above, our phone is quite old and Moto is still supporting it. You got security update, SOAK testers got 4th build today. I really respect that they are listening testers' feedback, not just releasing major update and letting people to stuck with the buggy one. Which other vendor is putting so much effort?
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But still going strong. As said above, our phone is quite old and Moto is still supporting it. You got security update, SOAK testers got 4th build today. I really respect that they are listening testers' feedback, not just releasing major update and letting people to stuck with the buggy one. Which other vendor is putting so much effort?
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i m on second build
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But still going strong. As said above, our phone is quite old and Moto is still supporting it. You got security update, SOAK testers got 4th build today. I really respect that they are listening testers' feedback, not just releasing major update and letting people to stuck with the buggy one. Which other vendor is putting so much effort?
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And how stable is 4th one? Less buggy then the 3rd one?
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And how stable is 4th one? Less buggy then the 3rd one?
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So far so good but I have to check bugs other users are reporting. Some bugs, like stability, battery drain, etc. are showing up after couple of days. It's not clever to install update, test few things and then report right away that everything works.
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So far so good but I have to check bugs other users are reporting. Some bugs, like stability, battery drain, etc. are showing up after couple of days. It's not clever to install update, test few things and then report right away that everything works.
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Whatcha mean? I see a ton of people doing just that.. I love the random unresponsiveness still.
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But still going strong. As said above, our phone is quite old and Moto is still supporting it. You got security update, SOAK testers got 4th build today. I really respect that they are listening testers' feedback, not just releasing major update and letting people to stuck with the buggy one. Which other vendor is putting so much effort?
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newer build number please,
Here you go
My moto z play is RETEU. Why am I still on the December 2017 sesurity patch? Does anyone know?
formula2 said:
My moto z play is RETEU. Why am I still on the December 2017 sesurity patch? Does anyone know?
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Same
abhishekiswithyou said:
newer build number please,
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opn27.76-12-13
I just got pushed an update from big red and it's not q. We'll be lucky to get it. I have locked bootloader's
Only upped the security patch to January
Not Android 10? DAMN you moto! I've had all the Z series phones except Z2, i think this will be the last!, What a lack of respect from Lenovorola.
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Not Android 10? DAMN you moto! I've had all the Z series phones except Z2, i think this will be the last!, What a lack of respect from Lenovorola.
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mad at moto because they didn't meet your expectations? ?
Its unbelievable how many times these posts comes up, for every phone by every manufacturer. All the impatient people.