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I ordered my AT&T Nexus last night. I was worried about several things, so I used my phone, with my girlfriend on the other end, to push the mouse button and confirm the sale!
Anyways, I'm hoping the purple tint doesn't effect Mr. Nexus. I ordered a Gelli Case from Case-mate dot com. It had pretty good reviews, and seems smaller than most cases.
I am still debating whether or not to root my phone. I'm not sure if it's worth the warranty void. We'll see though, because there's so much tempting stuff
So, Nexus owners, do you regret purchasing your Nexus in light of the new phones being released? This was probably the biggest worry of mine. But seeing as all the nice android phones dont run on AT&T 3G, I decided to stick with the Nexus.
Case-mates are awesome, I got the tough case for my Nexus, and it rocks.
The screen protection that it comes with is also great and very invisible / fingerprint resistant.
After I got it, I finally didn't feel like I was holding a fragile egg in my hands when handling my phone
Congrats on the purchase!
For the tint, i didnt seem to have that problem, but there are no guarantees that you wont get them as well, but more and more are reporting that it hasnt been a problem.
I wanted to get a gel case, but i opted out for the zagg invisible shield full body (minus the screen, i bought a regualr screen protector off ebay), had it pro installed at the zagg kiosk and couldnt be happier. And I am a little worried about droppping it, but i should be fine.
I debated on that as well. But after 5 days of playing with the phone and everything seems to be working fine, so i rooted and installed a custom rom! REALLY happy with the decision! cyanogen 5053 rom kicks a$$! and also running at 250 MB free RAM!
As for regrets, none whatsoever. Because now i still have my upgrade availabilty, so any new phones coming out this summer that i would actually like to buy, i can get at discount price. And plus, I sold my 3gs to buy the n1 so almost an even trade. About $60 out of my pockets to get the n1, so im happy with it!
izmar said:
I ordered my AT&T Nexus last night. I was worried about several things, so I used my phone, with my girlfriend on the other end, to push the mouse button and confirm the sale!
Anyways, I'm hoping the purple tint doesn't effect Mr. Nexus. I ordered a Gelli Case from Case-mate dot com. It had pretty good reviews, and seems smaller than most cases.
I am still debating whether or not to root my phone. I'm not sure if it's worth the warranty void. We'll see though, because there's so much tempting stuff
So, Nexus owners, do you regret purchasing your Nexus in light of the new phones being released? This was probably the biggest worry of mine. But seeing as all the nice android phones dont run on AT&T 3G, I decided to stick with the Nexus.
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Dude, best phone I ever had. No purple tint on mine. Yeah, there are some issues to be addressed by google, like adding copy to emails and adding repeating reminders.. but nothing major.
Overall it's 98% AWESOME, 1% kinda weird, 1% needs fixing.
Other phones? Like Supersonic? Way too big, and Sprint-only. Desire? Meh, imo, it's worse than N1. You trade finger sensor fingy for dual noise-cancelling mics.. I take the mics any day.
Oh, dude... make sure you condition your battery on first charge.. seriously, when you get it, hold your horses, let it charge with PHONE OFF for 12 hours. It'll go a loooong way towards your battery life, especially first month or so. Just set it to charge as soon as you get it and don't touch it for 12 hours.
Regarding the case.. I recommend using a belt-clip case. It covers the phone fully, it's only on when you're not using the phone (so you can enjoy your "naked" N1), and phone is always out of harms way on your waist. Imo, that's the best option.
I bought the launch Nexus One and lived on Edge on ATT for quite a while. I was regretting that only for the "man I wish I had 3G" reasoning. Once the ATT version was available, I sold my TMO phone for $500 and spent the extra $30 to upgrade.
Regrets? None.
I love my phone.
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I bought the launch Nexus One and lived on Edge on ATT for quite a while. I was regretting that only for the "man I wish I had 3G" reasoning. Once the ATT version was available, I sold my TMO phone for $500 and spent the extra $30 to upgrade.
Regrets? None.
I love my phone.
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That was another buying point for me too, resellability! I bet I could sell this for $400 in a year, if it's in nearly mint condition... Depending on how fast phones get in the next year.
I had a tough time deciding between the gelli case and the tough case. I decided the tough case would be too bulky, as I like feeling the slimness of the phone. I remember when I first got a case for my iphone, I had it on for months straight, then it ripped, and I had it without a case. What a difference! So I'm hoping the gelli case will be a good thin fit.
As for conditioning my battery, do I really have to let it sit for 12 hours? I don't know if I can handle just letting it sit there... How much better for my phone will it be? I never did this to my iphone, and it's battery was great the whole life of it.
Update -
Shipping
Apr 15, 2010 3:27 PM
Arrived at FedEx location
INDIANAPOLIS, IN
Apr 15, 2010 3:12 PM
Left FedEx origin facility
PLAINFIELD, IN
Apr 15, 2010 7:49 AM
Shipment information sent to FedEx
Apr 15, 2010 8:12 AM
Picked up
INDIANAPOLIS, IN
So it went from indianapolis to plainfield, back to indianapolis haha.
What time during the day did you all receive your phones?
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As for conditioning my battery, do I really have to let it sit for 12 hours? I don't know if I can handle just letting it sit there... How much better for my phone will it be? I never did this to my iphone, and it's battery was great the whole life of it.
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Well, first battery (original) I plugged it in for 20 minutes while playing with the phone, then went and used it as gps for about 30 mins, then charged it again..
And for first 2 weeks my battery would last 6-8 hours tops. After that it started to improve a little.
Second battery I got I conditioned it, and now I get 17.5 hours from one charge with everything on, screen at 70% brightness and 2 push emails, all on 3G. Huge difference.
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Well, first battery (original) I plugged it in for 20 minutes while playing with the phone, then went and used it as gps for about 30 mins, then charged it again..
And for first 2 weeks my battery would last 6-8 hours tops. After that it started to improve a little.
Second battery I got I conditioned it, and now I get 17.5 hours from one charge with everything on, screen at 70% brightness and 2 push emails, all on 3G. Huge difference.
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How long did you condition it for?
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I did some reading on conditioning, and some say use it until it dies, then charge it fully. Anyone have some input?
Read the battery threads in Q&A for some unbiased information about batteries, intial charging strategy, etc. I just got mine day before last. No purple tint whatsoever at any brightness. I do have the screen calibration where it wont accept presses or they are misplaced, a quick sleep/wake fixes it and it only happens on the odd occasion so I havent worked up much of a care over it. Multi touch has the cross axis issue and that seems to hit me with pinch zooming but its easy to work around by not pinching too close together. Still, if ya gotta work around it its an issue in my mind and the way I read it software will never fully address it. Since I actually prefer to one hand and use the magnifying glasses this doesnt affect me. I only play puzzle games so cant comment on multi issues there. I have no issues with 3G/edge cycling and I am in a borderline 3G area.
Other trivia... I have never had a phone pick up gps lock so fast. I find the keyboard acceptable but it could be better. I have not changed it because I like to use a phone for a week or so and get a good feel for the stock firmware before I start swapping things out. Outlook support would have to get better to suck. I think the screen looks great outside of the reds which have some bloom. The camera takes half decent pictures with little effort at the default automatic settings. This is all I need so cant comment on what a photographer type might get out of it with fiddling. The trackball comes in handy when you want to edit text. Much easier than trying to get a fingernail in exactly the right spot. Accessories are not easy to find on the ground, had to hit amazon.
Bottom line after 48 hours of ownership. This is a great phone with no major weaknesses outside of the outlook support. Its a pleasure to use and I have no regrets about making this purchase. My wife is starting to make noises and I would not be surprised if there are soon two of these in the house. I think your going to be happy.
lol check my thread about nexus regrets.
but honestly no. overall I'ld buy the phone again. I already have when it broke, and I paid full price.
DEFINATELY root your phone, IF yoru careful enough not to break it. theres teh n1 torch for using your led as a flashlight, i depend on wireless tethering alot, I love loading sense from the desire onto my phone, you can add alot more RAM from kernel configuration... I rooted both phones. It's worth it.
Thanks for your input Krabman. I'm really excited to get it tomorrow.
trevor - I am going to use it for a few days, maybe a few weeks before rooting, just in case theres something that needs to be fixed.
I really want to root it though holy crap.
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How long did you condition it for?
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I did some reading on conditioning, and some say use it until it dies, then charge it fully. Anyone have some input?
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I would advise against ever using your battery until it dies. It does harm to your battery. If my power goes below 10% i will usually turn it off until i can get it to a power source.
I can tell you lotsa great things about the Nexus One, but I'm sure you've heard them all, besides its fun discovering them first hand on your own All I can say though is you wont regret owning this phone... I love it almost as much as my girlfriend.
Damn im excited. You guys aren't helping. Can anyone tell me what time of the day they received their phone in the mail? Fedex says "Before 4:30". So that's a pretty huge friggen window.
I got mine at around 1230ish... trust me you wont miss your Hero. Hahahaha.
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Damn im excited. You guys aren't helping. Can anyone tell me what time of the day they received their phone in the mail? Fedex says "Before 4:30". So that's a pretty huge friggen window.
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I got mine at around 1230ish... trust me you wont miss your Hero. Hahahaha.
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Ok thanks! Haha, I know, I probably won't. But it WAS my first... Android phone that is... And that means something eh?
grats man! im on my second n1 and i have the purple tint now. but its only a big deal sitting next to my old one. ppl are just super picky. unlock and root after 12 hr charge imo. ppl have reported sending them to HTC for repair and getting them relocked when returned. don't be so scared imo. thats why this phone is badass. its a tinkerers toy like legos.
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Dude you are definitely not going to be disappointed. I was a 2+ year iPhone user, and I am not looking back at all. This phone is a joy to play with. I had it for a few days and ended up rooting it to install Cyanogen. The mod makes a big difference, all the little things that seemed silly about stock Eclair have been cleaned up in his mod. I need to install the new version today, but I could not be more thrilled with the swap to the N1. The gelly cases are the way to go, this phone is so thin and light, and the cases just give it a nice grippyness without having to add bulk. Give it a few days to get used to some of the quirks, but you'll be happy you changed over.
I don't know I can't remember my first. LOL . Did you get your N1 yet?
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Ok thanks! Haha, I know, I probably won't. But it WAS my first... Android phone that is... And that means something eh?
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I don't know I can't remember my first. LOL . Did you get your N1 yet?
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JUST GOT IT!!!! I'm charging it now. You dont know how hard it is to sit here, and watch it charge. I CANT EVEN PLAY WITH MY NEW BABY!!!!
It'll be worth it though...
I am just going to charge it until the light turns green. I see no point in letting it sit there plugged in with a full battery. With most devices this is bad for the battery.
I'm hoping I dont have the purple tint. If I do... I might have to send it in, simply because I want what I paid for. Half a grand! I mean cmon!
I will report back soon I'm just trying to pass the time...
First of all, this isn't a "why I don't like the Xoom" post. Actually, there is a lot that I do really like about the Xoom, and I'm optimistic that once Flash, 4G, and a few more Honeycomb-optimized apps come to the device, it will be a very capable device.
The reason I'm posting here is that I purchased the Xoom online from Verizon when it first came out, but there were a few things that bothered me enough about it that I returned it after about a week to make sure that I didn't land outside the return window. I have however, been considering buying another one, this time directly from the Verizon store so I can spend a little more time with it to determine if I like it enough to justify the $800 expenditure. So, I wanted to post my major nits with the product here to see if others have found them to be not as much of an issue or had found workarounds that solve some of these problems. I know there have been other posts about many of these problems, but I was hoping to get some fresh perspective now that the device has been out and in people's hands for a little longer.
Here's what is keeping me from going out and buying another Xoom right now.
1. I didn't like the display. On auto-brightness, it seemed like it was always too dark, and even the maximum manual brightness setting it still wasn't bright enough to overcome the glare that the screen attracted when I was sitting by a window or near a lamp. I felt like I was always struggling to see what was on the screen, even when indoors. Has anyone had luck solving this with, for example, an anti-glare screen protector? Or was this something that you adjusted to and found to be less of an issue over time?
2. The portfolio case, though serviceable, was unattractive and clunky, but I didn't like the lack of screen protection on the gel case. Is the gel case maybe worth another look, or are there any third party cases in the works that look promising?
3. It can't charge via USB, and the power adapter is a little larger than something I would like to have tucked in my bag all the time. How do you keep your Xoom charged on the go? Do you find that the advantage of being able to charge the Xoom quickly makes up for the fact that it can't be charged by a universal mini-usb?
Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read this. It turned out a little longer than I had originally intended. Looking forward to your feedback.
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First of all, this isn't a "why I don't like the Xoom" post. Actually, there is a lot that I do really like about the Xoom, and I'm optimistic that once Flash, 4G, and a few more Honeycomb-optimized apps come to the device, it will be a very capable device.
The reason I'm posting here is that I purchased the Xoom online from Verizon when it first came out, but there were a few things that bothered me enough about it that I returned it after about a week to make sure that I didn't land outside the return window. I have however, been considering buying another one, this time directly from the Verizon store so I can spend a little more time with it to determine if I like it enough to justify the $800 expenditure. So, I wanted to post my major nits with the product here to see if others have found them to be not as much of an issue or had found workarounds that solve some of these problems. I know there have been other posts about many of these problems, but I was hoping to get some fresh perspective now that the device has been out and in people's hands for a little longer.
Here's what is keeping me from going out and buying another Xoom right now.
1. I didn't like the display. On auto-brightness, it seemed like it was always too dark, and even the maximum manual brightness setting it still wasn't bright enough to overcome the glare that the screen attracted when I was sitting by a window or near a lamp. I felt like I was always struggling to see what was on the screen, even when indoors. Has anyone had luck solving this with, for example, an anti-glare screen protector? Or was this something that you adjusted to and found to be less of an issue over time?
2. The portfolio case, though serviceable, was unattractive and clunky, but I didn't like the lack of screen protection on the gel case. Is the gel case maybe worth another look, or are there any third party cases in the works that look promising?
3. It can't charge via USB, and the power adapter is a little larger than something I would like to have tucked in my bag all the time. How do you keep your Xoom charged on the go? Do you find that the advantage of being able to charge the Xoom quickly makes up for the fact that it can't be charged by a universal mini-usb?
Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read this. It turned out a little longer than I had originally intended. Looking forward to your feedback.
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1. I agree with the auto brightness. I turned this off and keep the brightness at 75%. I added Zagg invisibleshield and it has significantly reduced glare, fingerprints and smudges. I am happy.
2. I ordered this but it has not arrived yet: http://www.zoogue.com/shop/#xoom-zoogue-case-genius I am currently using the Moto gel case and it works for now.
3. I haven't had an issue with the charger. It charges very fast and the battery life is very good.
I love my xoom, though i don't see a lot of resolution for you on these issues.
1. I love the display, agreed it's hard to see in bright light (but this to me is normal).
2. I like the portfolio case and use it constantly.
3. For me the lack of usb chargning is fine, as the default charger charges so fast and my battary lasts me all day. I can charge from empty to full in less then two hours and get at least a good 12 hour day of off again on again usage.
Hope this helps.
same here.
i turned of auto brightness and the screen is great for me now.
haven't put a case on it (waiting for a good one to come out).
i left the shipping cover plastic on the screen until i decide on what screen protector i am going to use.
no usb charging was not a deal breaker for me as it has been noted before that the charge time is fast and the use time is high.
1. I use mine on a bus and outside and haven't really had a problem with brightness, the glare is a killer though. Inside, at night when using the kindle app, I'd like to turn down the brightness. I picked up the Steinheil screen protectors (matte) and it really cut down on the fingerprint smudges and glare. Yea, the screen isn't as crisp as without the protector, but the smudges ruined it anyway. I took auto brightness off but keep the display turned down.
2. I haven't seen any third party case even for the ipad that I really like. The portfolio from Motorola is the best I've seen so far and I'm really disappointed. It needs to have a typing position, maybe 20-30% incline.
3. I would have liked a mini usb charger. I'll probably get a second one but by charging it at night I have more than enough juice to get through a day.
Motorola had a $100 off coupon floating around and the wifi models are being released at the end of this month which should be less expensive.
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1. I agree with the auto brightness. I turned this off and keep the brightness at 75%. I added Zagg invisibleshield and it has significantly reduced glare, fingerprints and smudges. I am happy.
2. I ordered this but it has not arrived yet: http://www.zoogue.com/shop/#xoom-zoogue-case-genius I am currently using the Moto gel case and it works for now.
3. I haven't had an issue with the charger. It charges very fast and the battery life is very good.
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I have a Zoogue iPad case and have used it for the past 8 months. It is amazing and has held up perfectly. It is an awesome case especially if you intend to watch a fair bit of videos with your tablet. Maybe not the prettiest case around, but it protects the hell out of the tablet and not only allows you any angle of incline, but also a very sturdy base so that it wont go tipping over if you tap the tablet too hard.
I agree with most people here.
1. Forget the auto brightness. It's useless.
2. I really want the zoogue case, let me know how it is. I'm ok with the portfolio case. It's definitely grown on me. I have two big issues with it though: lack of a 30-degree angle for tabletop use, but i've gotten used to the "low angle", and no charging while closed. someone in the accessories forum suggested punching a hole with a punch meant for making holes in a belt and it worked like a charm (hint: try asking your dry cleaner/alternation shop if you can use theirs, that way I didn't have to buy one). Looks like it almost was meant to be there.
3. I would have liked the 'option' of a mirco usb charger, but honestly, I use it every day at work unplug in the morning, use at home after dinner and plug in at night, and have never had an issue. I even went away for the weekend (sat morn to sunday night) and brought my charger, but i never charged it. I dont see it as an issue.
lazy_rider said:
First of all, this isn't a "why I don't like the Xoom" post. Actually, there is a lot that I do really like about the Xoom, and I'm optimistic that once Flash, 4G, and a few more Honeycomb-optimized apps come to the device, it will be a very capable device.
The reason I'm posting here is that I purchased the Xoom online from Verizon when it first came out, but there were a few things that bothered me enough about it that I returned it after about a week to make sure that I didn't land outside the return window. I have however, been considering buying another one, this time directly from the Verizon store so I can spend a little more time with it to determine if I like it enough to justify the $800 expenditure. So, I wanted to post my major nits with the product here to see if others have found them to be not as much of an issue or had found workarounds that solve some of these problems. I know there have been other posts about many of these problems, but I was hoping to get some fresh perspective now that the device has been out and in people's hands for a little longer.
Here's what is keeping me from going out and buying another Xoom right now.
1. I didn't like the display. On auto-brightness, it seemed like it was always too dark, and even the maximum manual brightness setting it still wasn't bright enough to overcome the glare that the screen attracted when I was sitting by a window or near a lamp. I felt like I was always struggling to see what was on the screen, even when indoors. Has anyone had luck solving this with, for example, an anti-glare screen protector? Or was this something that you adjusted to and found to be less of an issue over time?
2. The portfolio case, though serviceable, was unattractive and clunky, but I didn't like the lack of screen protection on the gel case. Is the gel case maybe worth another look, or are there any third party cases in the works that look promising?
3. It can't charge via USB, and the power adapter is a little larger than something I would like to have tucked in my bag all the time. How do you keep your Xoom charged on the go? Do you find that the advantage of being able to charge the Xoom quickly makes up for the fact that it can't be charged by a universal mini-usb?
Anyway, thanks for taking the time to read this. It turned out a little longer than I had originally intended. Looking forward to your feedback.
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1 - I operate my device on auto brightness pretty much all the time, the only exception to this is when QuickPic fires up because it ramps it to 100%. I have found that in most normal operating environments I can see the screen perfectly. I am not outdoors with it very often but I know what you are talking about because it is difficult to see under direct or even semi direct sunlight.
2 - I'm going to buy a gel case right now, I already own the protective case. I want to try them both and figure that I'll use the Gel case around the house and the protective case out at work.
3 - There is a car charger, but I am unaware of a more compact Xoom charger.
Thanks to everyone who has commented so far. I'm leaning strongly towards giving the Xoom another shot, although I might wait until they start shipping with 4G, so I don't have to send it back to Moto for a week for the upgrade.
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1. I didn't like the display. Has anyone had luck solving this with, for example, an anti-glare screen protector? Or was this something that you adjusted to and found to be less of an issue over time?
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I'm still not over the display quality. This is one of the main factors why I'm weighing to sell the xoom and get another honeycomb tablet in the future.
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2. The portfolio case, though serviceable, was unattractive and clunky, but I didn't like the lack of screen protection on the gel case. Is the gel case maybe worth another look, or are there any third party cases in the works that look promising?
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Couldn't say as I've never used it before.
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3. It can't charge via USB, and the power adapter is a little larger than something I would like to have tucked in my bag all the time. How do you keep your Xoom charged on the go? Do you find that the advantage of being able to charge the Xoom quickly makes up for the fact that it can't be charged by a universal mini-usb?
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I found the xoom's ability to charge quickly makes up for the lack of usb charging. additionally, when in a car traveling long distances, i can hook up the charger to a power generator i bought for the car that easily hooks up to the lighter port.
I'm going to wait it out, and try and get the samsung tablet 10.1 coming out in about a month.
I too use auto brightness all the time, but maybe I live in a dark existence.
I use the gel case all the time, and no screen protector. When I take it with me, its in my protective net book sleeve in my backpack so I'm not really worried about the screen. If I start to hear complaints here about screen issues (other than the gym bag guy) I may seek better protection.
I don't find the charging to be an issue as the battery lasts a long time. I think the car charger (<$30) is a good idea if you are gonna be in the car for even 15 minutes or so. If you can hook up the standard dock someplace in your car you can charge it and play audio from itnto the aux port on your stereo if you have one...
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Do you find that the advantage of being able to charge the Xoom quickly makes up for the fact that it can't be charged by a universal mini-usb?
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Very much so; it charges it so fast and the battery life is so good I just don't worry about it any more. I might get a car charger for the times I can't get home in time, once they get 2nd-sourced (to save money) but so far, so good.
I suffer under no delusions that a device like this will be viewable in direct lighting (including sunlight). I pretty much assumed going in that I'd still be using my classic Nook with e-ink for reading outside...
i bought one and I returned it because of the same issues. Then I bought my wife an I pad 2 and i tested it for a few day and I
notice the xoom is so fast and you not handcuffed to apple products that I went and bought the xoom again and this time I'm keeping it.
After getting yet another replacement, I noticed the seals are now black. Upon close inspection of the unit, the plastic wrap is no longer dirty (all the ones I got before had some dirt on it). The unit itself feels less squishy and no light bleed whats so ever at max brightness (it is a tad brighter near the backlights, but it is like what you see with a normal LCD monitor in a really dark room)
Just a heads up to those buying Transformers, pick the ones with the black seal, they're the newest batch (it also comes with 3.0.13 for people who cares)
Edit: Forgot to mention downgrading to 3.0.9 and using gingerbreakBB fails at the soft root step. It will get stuck at
4. run “adb shell” followed by “/data/local/gingerbreakBB”
5. Wait up to 10 minutes for gingerbreak to do its stuff, once its done you will have SU (#) symbol
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For more than 20min, I've tried several times after reboot and it never works. Had to use NVflash to root.
oh new ones... I may have to try and return mine again. This would be my 3rd one if I do. This 2nd one has a little bit of ligh bleeds in it, thus far im dealing with it...
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oh new ones... I may have to try and return mine again. This would be my 3rd one if I do. This 2nd one has a little bit of ligh bleeds in it, thus far im dealing with it...
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It was my 7th one XDD
You seriously returned your TF 7 times?!?!?! I have a few light bleeds but havent really considered sending it back.
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You seriously returned your TF 7 times?!?!?! I have a few light bleeds but havent really considered sending it back.
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It was to a retailer near me. 1st time the rims were flexing, 2nd time rim still flexing and speaker issues, 3rd,4th,5th speaker issues. 6th one had dust under camera lens. This one has no issues as far as I can tell expect a dot of missing paint near microsd slot (who looks at it anyway?)
how can i understand if i have light bleed on my Tf?
is there any chance that you may upload a photo about it?
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how can i understand if i have light bleed on my Tf?
is there any chance that you may upload a photo about it?
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Open up Gallery and turn backlight to max. Go into a dark room, if you see really bright areas near the edges (usually the bottom left/right edge), you have some light bleed (showing of backlight behind the screen, thus called backlight bleeding)
I can't really take a photo with my current TF as it doesn't have that kind of light bleed.
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Open up Gallery and turn backlight to max. Go into a dark room, if you see really bright areas near the edges (usually the bottom left/right edge), you have some light bleed (showing of backlight behind the screen, thus called backlight bleeding)
I can't really take a photo with my current TF as it doesn't have that kind of light bleed.
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Oh wow, I should have waited for the newer batch since such quality issues are addressed.
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It was my 7th one XDD
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Lol..way 2 go mate, no compromises!
Sent from my cell phone. DUH.
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Lol..way 2 go mate, no compromises!
Sent from my cell phone. DUH.
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I wouldn't be replacing it so many times if the store wasn't 10min drive away.
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how can i understand if i have light bleed on my Tf?
is there any chance that you may upload a photo about it?
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If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
My point? If you can't notice any light bleed during normal usage, why go looking for it when it clearly doesn't matter?
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WoW you must be really unlucky and/or picky.
Mine has a lightleak that I don't care about. And I had to return the dock one time because it wasn't charging.
aligatro2010 said:
WoW you must be really unlucky and/or picky.
Mine has a lightleak that I don't care about. And I had to return the dock one time because it wasn't charging.
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I wasn't really returning it for the bleeding, it was the speakers and dust under camera lens that made me go return it. Backing up my stuff 6 times isn't fun.
foxmeister said:
If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
My point? If you can't notice any light bleed during normal usage, why go looking for it when it clearly doesn't matter?
Regards,
Dave
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Well said!
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After getting yet another replacement, I noticed the seals are now black. Upon close inspection of the unit, the plastic wrap is no longer dirty (all the ones I got before had some dirt on it). The unit itself feels less squishy and no light bleed whats so ever at max brightness (it is a tad brighter near the backlights, but it is like what you see with a normal LCD monitor in a really dark room)
Just a heads up to those buying Transformers, pick the ones with the black seal, they're the newest batch (it also comes with 3.0.13 for people who cares)
Edit: Forgot to mention downgrading to 3.0.9 and using gingerbreakBB fails at the soft root step. It will get stuck at
For more than 20min, I've tried several times after reboot and it never works. Had to use NVflash to root.
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What is the batch nummber on the serial? b5 or higher?
foxmeister said:
If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
My point? If you can't notice any light bleed during normal usage, why go looking for it when it clearly doesn't matter?
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Very good point! Just my opinion but unless the dreaded light bleed is a symptom of a progressive problem getting worse, does it REALLY matter?
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foxmeister said:
If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?
My point? If you can't notice any light bleed during normal usage, why go looking for it when it clearly doesn't matter?
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Dave
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Amen. There are a lot of people costing us all money here by returning units that are basically as close to perfect as one could reasonably expect, in the pursuit of some mythical level of perfection that doesn't exist from any manufacturer. We've seriously reached the point where I've now seen a thread in which somebody complains that their Transformer has a 1-2mm larger space between the last active row of pixels and the blacked out area of the screen on one side of the display than the other. It's beyond obsessive, to be honest.
What these people don't seem to realize is that each return for a new unit inflates prices for everybody. The retailers return that stock to Asus, who cannot legally sell the tablets as new at that point -- they have to sell them as second-hand, which means losing a significant amount of money. They're not a charity, and the cost of those returns gets passed straight back to us, the customers. So does the added cost to the retailer of shipping around extra units, and of processing extra orders.
One return is reasonable. Two might be so in some circumstances. Seven isn't. It means you're being ludicrously picky. If you genuinely had six faulty units straight out of the box there's zero chance you'd be actively trying to buy the product any more at that point, so they clearly weren't "faulty" units -- just ones that didn't meet an unachievable standard of perfection.
knoxploration said:
Amen. There are a lot of people costing us all money here by returning units that are basically as close to perfect as one could reasonably expect, in the pursuit of some mythical level of perfection that doesn't exist from any manufacturer. We've seriously reached the point where I've now seen a thread in which somebody complains that their Transformer has a 1-2mm larger space between the last active row of pixels and the blacked out area of the screen on one side of the display than the other. It's beyond obsessive, to be honest.
What these people don't seem to realize is that each return for a new unit inflates prices for everybody. The retailers return that stock to Asus, who cannot legally sell the tablets as new at that point -- they have to sell them as second-hand, which means losing a significant amount of money. They're not a charity, and the cost of those returns gets passed straight back to us, the customers. So does the added cost to the retailer of shipping around extra units, and of processing extra orders.
One return is reasonable. Two might be so in some circumstances. Seven isn't. It means you're being ludicrously picky. If you genuinely had six faulty units straight out of the box there's zero chance you'd be actively trying to buy the product any more at that point, so they clearly weren't "faulty" units -- just ones that didn't meet an unachievable standard of perfection.
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Amen. Some people are just ridiculous when it comes to this. Its irresponsible, inconsiderate and is shooting us all and yourself in the foot!
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... or perhaps Asus has learned a valuable, yet expensive, lesson in quality control.
And what about the speakers ?
OK my short review from having the LG G4 for 6 days now! Just as background, I luckily got the phone through a workmate i know in South Korea so the one i have is the South Korean model. Also, the South Korean version gives you something that is a bloody lifesaver and just so useful and you wish you'd always had one: an extra battery. More on that later.
So I have been using the Nexus 6 since launch and love it. To me at least it's been great – big screen, big development on XDA (I love custom roms/kernels and flashing in general) and over all a phone that i have loved. The only issues i have had really are: the screen is ok but could be better, the camera is ok and could be better and it is heavy and hefty so I use it one-handed but only just. It's a monster!
So last few months have been looking for something not quite as big with a better camera and better screen. I tried both the S6 and S6 Edge and sold them within a few days. Mostly because i think they are just too small and poky or something. S6 Edge was too sharp for me.
Along comes the G4! And if you don't want to read the boring detail below then in short: I love it and haven't really seen any faults at all.
Boring Detail:
Battery:
Here's a tricky one as i have always had decent battery on all phones i get. And all i do is read the same thing over and again on battery threads everywhere: 'i get only 2 hours Screen on Time help!' and then 'i get 7 hours Screen on Time and i'm amazing!'. The problem is the same: every person's usage pattern and apps and mobile reception is different so this all accounts for differing Screen on Time. So – FOR ME – i am getting consistently around 5 to 5.5 hours Screen on Time which is perfectly fine. So i reckon on MOST of the current flag ships you'd be getting pretty similar SOT.
However the one big bloody glaring thing about the South Korean model is that extra battery and that right there should solve pretty much ALL battery issues. So I just have the extra battery in the charging case attached to a USB cable on my computer. If I have gotten low on a day where i have the used phone a lot then 38 seconds later i have swapped batteries for the new 100% one! How good is that! Do yourself a favour and get a spare battery! No doubt they will be available shortly.
Two things that reviews are singling out as ‘cons’ which I think is just silly.
Wireless charging. I love wireless charging and until you use it a lot you don’t realise how convenient it is. I also have two Tylt Vu chargers and they are expensive so i want a device that uses wireless charging! Ok so the G4 has wireless charging CAPABILITY meaning that you need a different back than the one that comes with it and it will work.
Already LG has said that the G4 circle case will have that. So all I will be doing is waiting for the inevitable Shenzen rip off sticker that you stick inside your case that gives me wireless charging. I will give it 4 weeks max before they are on Ebay for $5.
Quick charging. There’s this boring debate that the G4 did not include Quick Charging 2.0 even though Qualcom have it in their chip. Big deal! What you do get is the 1.8 Quick Charge which isn’t quite as good but is still perfectly acceptable! In my testing it charges a bit over 1% per minute. Which is just fine.
Feel:
Sorry about the pretentious term ‘feel’ but it’s the best way of describing a major kick ass thing this phone has! It is just the BEST weight, feel and hold of any phone i’ve owned. It’s not light, it’s not heavy. It’s not small and it’s not phablety big. It is juuuuuuuust right. Dunno what it exactly is – maybe the slight bend? But it’s great.
Leather. I would never in a squillion years think i would own a leather phone or that the leather would work. But it does. Looks good, feels great, is great. Photos do not do it justice. I got the black weather which i love but if i was to buy it again the brown/tan i think could be the pick. If you get the plastic to save a few bucks then, um, don’t!
Camera:
Not going to go into detail because every review already has and i am not a manual camera person. I am Mr Point and Shoot. Suffice to say it takes very good photos. Had it over the weekend at Adelaide with relatives and photos turned out great.
Lag/Stutter/UI Blah:
Ok so on EVERY phone i own i remove the stock launcher and install an aftermarket one because guess why? They’re better. Don’t understand why people cry about the OEM launcher when the aftermarket ones are installed within 16 seconds and are better anyway.
Stutter/lag – again this is another topic that i don’t understand. I really haven’t had a phone that suffered at all from this. I ALWAYS change the animation three options to 0.5 in Developer Options and this often is more than enough. Don’t need to be rooted and takes 14 seconds – why wouldn’t you do it? In general though, i have not had stutter or lag in this phone at all.
The Knock Code to turn on screen. Sorry but every phone that doesn’t have this should get that as a ‘con’. It is just soooo convenient. Love it.
Notification shade works well. Lots of options, lots of shortcuts to choose.
Notification light – a no brainer and dunno why the Nexus 6 didn’t have it and i had to install a custom ROM to get it. It works and works fine.
Ability to change nav bar buttons around and add a couple more. Love this as i always like my back button on the right not the left.
These little customisations are what really makes the UI i think. So handy.
Display:
Great. Bright and similar when i had the S6 as a stand out. Reviews have covered it pretty well too – is an excellent colourful display. LG got it right.
Sound:
Decent! I just don’t use my phone to listen to stuff except for headphones but is loud and ok. Not as good as HTC but good for a phone.
Weird big bloody LCD density:
Here’s a weird thing which no review has mentioned which is the only thing that really annoyed me: the density is 620! Meaning that things are huge! Everything looked like a huge fonted behemoth! And without root i wasn’t able to use the easy way of changing the density via build.prop and eventually had to do it via hooking it to the PC and using Android SDK tools and change it to 540.
Overall:
Found a phone that for me at least satisfied most of what i want in a phone very well. And i haven’t even missed using a custom rom because you can’t root it yet! Never thought i’d say that. So once everyone has it in a month then hopefully development will mean it is even better!
Oh and get the effin leather purlease!!
Thank you for this nice review! Really appreciate it
That was a bloody useful review. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks. I'm on a GN4 but as usual itching for my 6 month change...
Q how is the speakerphone? GN4 is excellent. Is it loud? I was a little disappointed by the g3.
The.pixel density issue is interesting. I loved the g3, but for some reason I found it difficult to read text. Even when I changed the size. Partly it's my middle age eyesight but it's not an issue i suffer from with the galaxy note series or even s5. Could never figure out why I found the g3 difficult to read. Perhaps it's that pixel density.
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That was a bloody useful review. Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks. I'm on a GN4 but as usual itching for my 6 month change...
Q how is the speakerphone? GN4 is excellent. Is it loud? I was a little disappointed by the g3.
The.pixel density issue is interesting. I loved the g3, but for some reason I found it difficult to read text. Even when I changed the size. Partly it's my middle age eyesight but it's not an issue i suffer from with the galaxy note series or even s5. Could never figure out why I found the g3 difficult to read. Perhaps it's that pixel density.
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Yes the speaker is definitely loud. It is on the back of the phone though and is just one speaker. I wouldn't say quality is great but definitely loud.
Yes so weird about the LCD density! But yeah if you like big text then all good.
Great review, we are all hopeful we get root, bootloader unlock and Roms as well.
After installing the alternative home launcher, have you had any issues with the Knock On or Knock Off feature?
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Great review, we are all hopeful we get root, bootloader unlock and Roms as well.
After installing the alternative home launcher, have you had any issues with the Knock On or Knock Off feature?
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Nope knock on/off works great still with alternative launcher.
I have read in only 1 review the leather is kind of poorly attached to the plastic back. How nice is the leather attached? Does it wrap around the edges and conceal any plastic back? Clean install?
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I have read in only 1 review the leather is kind of poorly attached to the plastic back. How nice is the leather attached? Does it wrap around the edges and conceal any plastic back? Clean install?
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Seriously it's great. Photos don't do it justice though. It's hard leather but looks and feels really sturdy and just matches the phone.
It doesn't wrap around all the edges though.
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Seriously it's great. Photos don't do it justice though. It's hard leather but looks and feels really sturdy and just matches the phone.
It doesn't wrap around all the edges though.
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So what does it do? I must wrap all the way around the edges of the plastic back it is attached it? if it does not, it would peel up. I am talking about wrapping around all of the edges of the plastic back so NO plastic back is seen along the edges. Not wrapping around the entire phones back
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Nope knock on/off works great still with alternative launcher.
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This is great news thank you for confirming this, appears that owners of the G3 and G2 were forced to use 3rd party apps to enable one or both of those features when using an alternative home launcher. Im assuming you are using Nova Launcher, I have also always installed that stable application on top of whatever manufacturer I buy.
What is something that has surprised you the most about the G4?
Any feature or something unique from that phone that reviewers or users have not thought of bringing up?
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So what does it do? I must wrap all the way around the edges of the plastic back it is attached it? if it does not, it would peel up. I am talking about wrapping around all of the edges of the plastic back so NO plastic back is seen along the edges. Not wrapping around the entire phones back
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Ok just took a photo
legend221 said:
This is great news thank you for confirming this, appears that owners of the G3 and G2 were forced to use 3rd party apps to enable one or both of those features when using an alternative home launcher. Im assuming you are using Nova Launcher, I have also always installed that stable application on top of whatever manufacturer I buy.
What is something that has surprised you the most about the G4?
Any feature or something unique from that phone that reviewers or users have not thought of bringing up?
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Surprised is definitely me loving the leather when I thought it would be too garish.
The only thing reviewers haven't brought up was that annoying LCD density!
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Ok just took a photo
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Ok yeah.... as I had expected and hoped.. it does wrap around the edges of the battery door. So, you do not see the leather end and then some plastic of the back battery door. And, agreed, and as expected, it does not wrap leather up around the edges of the phone, just the battery door - so it is a nice clean finish.
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Surprised is definitely me loving the leather when I thought it would be too garish.
The only thing reviewers haven't brought up was that annoying LCD density!
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Can you expand a bit on how you addressed the density? I know you said "hooking it to the PC and using Android SDK tools and change it to 540.". I would modify in build.prop as you mentioned, but no root so no way so I am not so sure what you mean here how you accomplished this tweak.
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Ok yeah.... as I had expected and hoped.. it does wrap around the edges of the battery door. So, you do not see the leather end and then some plastic of the back battery door. And, agreed, and as expected, it does not wrap leather up around the edges of the phone, just the battery door - so it is a nice clean finish.
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Oh right sorry yes wasn't understanding what you were saying as driving and reading.
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Ok yeah.... as I had expected and hoped.. it does wrap around the edges of the battery door. So, you do not see the leather end and then some plastic of the back battery door. And, agreed, and as expected, it does not wrap leather up around the edges of the phone, just the battery door - so it is a nice clean finish.
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Can you expand a bit on how you addressed the density? I know you said "hooking it to the PC and using Android SDK tools and change it to 540.". I would modify in build.prop as you mentioned, but no root so no way so I am not so sure what you mean here how you accomplished this tweak.
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Yes this guide shows:
http://android.wonderhowto.com/how-...creen-resolution-without-root-access-0160439/
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Yes this guide shows:
http://android.wonderhowto.com/how-...creen-resolution-without-root-access-0160439/
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Great thanks.. IF the opportunity arises, it would be cool to see a before and after photo of your text size density.
Can the G4 turn Chrome into a free floating window?
Great review, very informative.
I passed on the G3 after really liking the G2 mostly due to the locked BL. I hope LG provides the ability to unlock it this time around like Sony and HTC do.
Or someone here cracks it much faster than it happened on the G3 which took what seemed like forever.
Sent from Canada via my Nexus 6, Note 4,3,2 or S3
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Thanks for the link. Do the dock and lock screen icons work on stock launcher using this method. On the G3 they didn't scale correctly?
What buttons can you change/add to the nav bar? Can you add a menu button?
Is there any sign of the lollipop memory leak?
Ps: big text incoming... I should write novels not Internet forum posts! Bear with me pls.
I've been kinda wanting to replace my Nexus 5 for a while now.
Things that annoy me are the battery that doesn't last that long - doesn't make it through the day if I happen to use it a bit more than the occasional message and photo. And the camera... I have taken freaking fantastic photos with this phone! Even though so many people complain, and fore sure there are way better cameras, Google Camera's HDR+ works wonders!
However.... Quite frequently I loose quick shots because the phone takes forever from 0 to Photo-snap! Focus is slow and unreliable...
Other than those two things, I really can't complain! Specially for the price! 400€ 32gb bright red model. Kinda cheap and unique as **** as you don't really see many screaming bright red phones around.
Still.... I want a reliable camera and a battery that lasts the day even when I use the phone at will.
So I started looking...
Galaxy S6 => awesome hardware! (even though the battery is kinda iffy) but failWiz makes it a no go for me!.. I was nearly going for it when I found out you can't even use alternative keyboards freely because Samsung's ram manager keeps pushing them out.
LG g4.. Meh camera ain't that fantastic, just has a great manual mode.
Nexus 6p ... Seems cool! But it's too big, and now that it's seemingly crappy internal structure design has been revealed... I'm not looking forward to pay over 630€ for a phone whose design had corners cut.
So I considered the 5x. Even though I hate the fake front speaker grill
It kinda checks all boxes.
But today, to my surprise I found one on exposition on a local electronics shop. First I was like "wow cool!" then after playing around with it for a while and comparing it to my N5 I was more like "Meh... Not paying 530€ for this."
The camera looks awesome, even though it didn't seem to snap pics that fast (was in low light ambient)
But it doesn't really perspire quality.
If it'd cost here the same it costs in the states, sure. Good deal!
But for this price... Doesn't seem worth jumping from the Nexus 5 to the 5x.
Did I miss something? What makes this phone fantastic?
I wanted to love it....but I walked away far from in love.
Yeah... Unless your N5 is crapping out, you really have no reason to replace it.
Only reason why I'm thinking the 5x is because after two years, it has some light wear and tear that drives my ocd nuts, as do a couple of hairline cracks at the sim tray and the volume rocker.
All I would expect from the 5 to the 5x is an improved camera, maybe slightly better battery, slightly improved SoC... And nexus imprint... Other than that, its the same phone. Which isn't a bad thing. The N5 was/is a great device, and if u add the above mentioned features, its worthy of a slightly bumped up price from it's predecessor
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Yeah mine is all cracked too (the plastic around it) and none of the cracks apparently related to falls o.o
First one was the between the audio-jack and the screen. One day... there was a crack there!.. awesome lol
Now there's another one bellow the volume rocker and one next to the sim-tray as well. Top notch built quality!! xD never complained cuz of the price...
The thing about the price bump is that the price bump in Europe isn't because of extra hardware, otherwise it would have the same bump in the States. No - it's most probably because google felt like joining the bandwagon of ripping off ppl in Europe! lol... Taxes? Sure there are more taxes here and import taxes, but not to cover that much difference in price I don't think.
So it makes it kinda hard to justify the price even if I was shopping for a phone from scratch, not for a swap.
If you want a fingerprint scanner and a better camera, but that's about it. Larger screen too. I really like my 5X, it replaced my S6 edge and I'm much more pleased with the 5X. My old man is using my original nexus 5, so I couldn't take that from him, but he's pleased with it.
I got used to using a fingerprint with the S6E and since Android pay wants a secure lock screen, it just made sense for me to get the 5X over finding another 5. But I'm in the States and it's cheaper here, so that helped with the decision too.
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Yeah mine is all cracked too (the plastic around it) and none of the cracks apparently related to falls o.o
First one was the between the audio-jack and the screen. One day... there was a crack there!.. awesome lol
Now there's another one bellow the volume rocker and one next to the sim-tray as well. Top notch built quality!! xD never complained cuz of the price...
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Oh yeah... I have the one by the audio jack too lmao.
Nobody ever claimed the n5 had good build quality. It's always been described as feeling "cheap" and "plastic". I always thought mine might have came from minor drops until I read that virtually everyone has them lol.
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It's like an N5 that's improved in every way IMO. The downsides being it's physically larger and a bit more expensive.
Biggest improvements are battery life and the camera image quality.
However some examples of the more unexpected improvements that you notice once you start using the device for a while:
Charge speeds. I've not charged over night even once yet as a 30 minute charge is enough to get through a day (roughly 50%).
Skin temperature. This device stays much cooler than the N5 especially during lighter usage such as Streaming Netflix and browsing. Battery temperatures remain consistently cooler than the N5 at all times, especially gaming.
Fingerprint sensor and ambient display: Together make it feel like you're interacting with the device in a whole new way. No need to use the power button ever.
How does the battery fair on a daily basis?
N5 is terrible even dose working it's magic while the phone is idling is not enough for it to make it alive in the evening if I use it a fair amount at some point during the morning.
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How does the battery fair on a daily basis?
N5 is terrible even dose working it's magic while the phone is idling is not enough for it to make it alive in the evening if I use it a fair amount at some point during the morning.
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It's awesome. I don't need to disable a single thing and my run times are similar to my N5 that had just about everything disabled.
It might only have an extra 400mAh but it feels like an extra 1000mAh. Part of that is because of Android 6.0 and Doze though.
Most of my results are in the 4-6 hours SoT range across 20+ hours. Lowest is 3 hours SoT across 20+ hours with weak signal mobile data usage and gaming. 50% manual brightness with most software features enabled.
Examples:
http://imgur.com/a/gVuT3
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Sounds pretty good.
I rarely (never) see even 3h sot, much less 4 :'D
Sounds like I saw what the N5x has on offer pretty well.
The thing screwing it up is the EU price adjustment being even worse than it was with the N5
Ok, long post too... bear with me...
So, I had the exact same issues as you described. I loved my N5 and I've been using it daily for the past 2 years or so. The main reasons I wanted to change phones was battery life and the cameras, both rear and front facing. I do agree with you when you say that the N5 snapped some fantastic shots though. HDR+ really works wonders.
I considered a lot of options such as the Moto X Style/Pure, Nexus 6P, LG G4, Xperia Z5, Galaxy S6 or the OnePlus 2, but they're just too physically big. Can't carry around a phone that big. I'd have to buy new trousers because I wouldn't be able to fit it in any of my pockets
Also, Z5 and S6 are way too expensive and I find it morally wrong to spend so much money on a phone... personal thing...
After a lot of reading and thinking, I did get the 5X in the end. I'm in the UK so I paid slightly less than 530€ (£350 which is around 485€). I must say that I'm definitely happy with the upgrade.
As for the camera, when you say it doesn't perspire quality, you're completely wrong. The camera on this phone is FREAKING amazing, the quality is outstanding and the focus is lovely! The sensor captures a LOT of detail! I mean, A LOT OF DETAIL! Can't really say about the colours cause I'm colour-blind (lol), but I find them spot on (a little bit on the dark side perhaps but nothing to worry about, you can always bump up the brightness in edit mode). The aperture is quite good which makes the macro mode fantastic as well (depth of field related). Even though I got some decent shots with the original N5, this camera is on a completely different level, quality wise! As for speed, I find the camera app a little bit to slow at times but this is a software issue rather than an hardware one. The focus is fast and accurate. Most likely the app slow down will be addressed in a future app update.
Front facing camera is also quite decent. Wide angle is awesome for selfies and it also captures a lot of detail. Coming from the 1.3MP camera on the N5, this one is a welcome improvement, trust me!
As for battery life, don't get your hopes up. Don't get me wrong, battery usage is way better than the N5 and it does last a full WORKING day (which I wouldn't get out of the N5... I'm a very heavy user) but it's no Z3/Z5 compact. I'd say you can get 30/35% more usage time on the 5X. While it might not seem a lot but I've been getting a lot more Screen on Time and standby usage has also improved. I feel like doze works way better on the 5X than on the N5, probably due to the revamped hardware (note that always on sensors on the 808 SoC are much more battery efficient). Quick charge works wonders too! Charge it for 10/15 minutes and you're good for another 4/5h of usage. Perfect for when you have a night out, just charge it for 10 mins before leaving work and you're good to go!
Chipset-wise, while it might not seem a worthy upgrade, I have to say that the 808 performs exceptionally well. The 64bit architecture DOES MAKE a difference although by looking at the specs on paper you won't really tell. Even though my N5 was mostly snappy, it would lag and struggle at times. I've yet to experience that on the 5X and I have the exact same apps/setup I had on my N5. Definitely an improvement on performance too.
As for the rest, it's pretty much the same experience as the N5. Build quality, android experience, sound (no stereo speakers, bummer, but it's the same as the N5 so...), screen quality. I was happy with what I had and I'm happy with what I have now
By the way, two features I didn't care much for were the fingerprint sensor and the ambient display. While they may not be deal breakers, both things are quite a nice to have. Regarding the fingerprint sensor, its position is perfect and it works almost flawlessly! Also it's fast... like, insanely FAST! The ambient display helps battery and it works good, not great but good (doesn't always kick in perfectly). I'm guessing this could be addressed on a future software update as well. Again, it's not a deal breaker but it's definitely a great addition to an already good phone.
Sorry for the long post, hope it helps
Wow
Don't apologize for the long text! Not only I don't mind reading but that's exactly what I was hoping to find: someone in a similar situation!
I wasn't aware the price was lower in the UK! Neat... Might be worth importing if I travel or someone close does. Any chance of a insurance on purchase for damage or theft?
Oh and regarding what I wrote about it not traspiring quality. After I read again what I wrote I though it might be confusing because I didn't change subject. I meant the device itself, not the camera, when I wrote it didn't transpire quality and thus didn't feel worth the price.
Also jumping from a N5, where do you put the quality at? The one I used had a gigantic anti-theft alarm dongle glued to it's back so I couldn't really tell.
The vibration engine felt way better even though I could only test it by inputting a not-recognized finger print!
The buttons seemed very nice even though I've read bad things about them on several places
In norway you can get a carrier lock discount, witch makes the price of the phone itself the same as in the us. No option to do that where you are buying it?
SrPintas said:
Wow
Don't apologize for the long text! Not only I don't mind reading but that's exactly what I was hoping to find: someone in a similar situation!
I wasn't aware the price was lower in the UK! Neat... Might be worth importing if I travel or someone close does. Any chance of a insurance on purchase for damage or theft?
Oh and regarding what I wrote about it not traspiring quality. After I read again what I wrote I though it might be confusing because I didn't change subject. I meant the device itself, not the camera, when I wrote it didn't transpire quality and thus didn't feel worth the price.
Also jumping from a N5, where do you put the quality at? The one I used had a gigantic anti-theft alarm dongle glued to it's back so I couldn't really tell.
The vibration engine felt way better even though I could only test it by inputting a not-recognized finger print!
The buttons seemed very nice even though I've read bad things about them on several places
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I got the 32Gb by the way, 16Gb is £300 although I wouldn't recommend 16Gb to anyone given the fact that there's no micro sd slot...
It is possible to get an insurance, yes. I guess it's something like £12/mo but I don't know what it covers (probably 1 screen replacement, theft I don't know... check carphone warehouse for more details). Also, I don't know if you'll be able to do it since you don't live in the UK.
Quality wise, I'd say if you feel like the N5 has a cheap build quality, you'll have the same opinion about the 5X. This phone doesn't have an aluminium unibody neither it does have gorilla glass 4. It is not an iphone 6s/htc m9/6P/etc, they had to cut costs somewhere I guess. It won't win any design awards either, that's for sure. Having said that, if you feel ok with the N5, you'll notice no difference handling the 5X. If you (because you're upgrading to a new device) expect the new phone to have a more premium feel (as "they" put it and has been taunted pretty much everywhere...) you won't get that from the 5X.
Vibration engine is sometimes annoyingly loud and tbh, not quite strong. But does the job I guess, I feel it vibrating in my hand and in my pocket, I've yet to miss a call cause I didn't feel it vibrating plus, I don't think that will be a reason to/not to buy the phone.
The button are, well, buttons... I've seen people complaining about the N5 having ceramic buttons and the 5X plastic ones. My thought about that is... who cares? Because of the fingerprint sensor I'm using a power button a lot less and the volume rocker has a rather nice position as it's placed towards the centre rather on the top of the phone. I find it convenient because the headphone jack is on the bottom so, when listening to music, my phone is faced down in my back pocket and I can easily adjust the volume without hassle.
In my opinion, I don't really care about aluminium unibody bull****. It gives a premium feeling, ok that's fair enough, if you're into that. Although if you're into that, you'll probably, won't be looking at the 5X Also, I rather have a phone that won't give me an heart attack when (notice the "when" rather than "if"!) I drop it
I'm there with you.
"Premium" quality comes with ups and downs.
I'm a but into design so I like a good looking device just like I nice a well designed car.
However I also drop em once in a while xD Nexus has proven incredibly durable (think I'm lucky too), I doubt a S6 or iPhone would survive some of the drops the n5 did.
When i asked about quality and feeling I didn't mean to compare with the more design oriented devices. But compare it with the N5 and other plastic chassi phones. The 5x sure is plastic, but it felt more "solid" in my hand than the N5. But I can't be sure cuz of the alarm dongle that was stuck to it.
On the buttons... So what if the n5 has ceramic?... Nice touch, but they are have some play. 5x's seemed more solid even if not "clickier" like most people seem to like
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In norway you can get a carrier lock discount, witch makes the price of the phone itself the same as in the us. No option to do that where you are buying it?
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I wish. But so far no carrier has it or has announced anything regarding it
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How does the battery fair on a daily basis?
N5 is terrible even dose working it's magic while the phone is idling is not enough for it to make it alive in the evening if I use it a fair amount at some point during the morning.
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Have you tried replacing your original phone battery? Mine was getting pretty bad and I replaced it with a new one bought off ebay a month ago. I now comfortably get a day and a half of moderate use. SOT time around 3.5 hours and doze is doing wonders compared to Lollipop. When kept overnight (11:00 pm to 6:00 am) the battery loses only 3% and I will take that any day!
I think people need to understand that a lithium ion battery will start falling down in performance considerably when approaching its life limit. Now comparing to the N5X I don't consider it worth the upgrade but will most likely switch to the next Nexus in October 2016.
sshariff said:
Have you tried replacing your original phone battery? Mine was getting pretty bad and I replaced it with a new one bought off ebay a month ago. I now comfortably get a day and a half of moderate use. SOT time around 3.5 hours and doze is doing wonders compared to Lollipop. When kept overnight (11:00 pm to 6:00 am) the battery loses only 3% and I will take that any day!
I think people need to understand that a lithium ion battery will start falling down in performance considerably when approaching its life limit. Now comparing to the N5X I don't consider it worth the upgrade but will most likely switch to the next Nexus in October 2016.
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I've thought about it. But kinda dozed off the idea when I didn't know which battery to choose =P
I replaced the battery on my N5 two months ago so I speak out of experience. It has gotten better but 5X's battery still performs better than a new battery on my N5.
Battery life is never linear as it depends on each person usage. I personally have everything on all the time... I rely heavily on Google's services like location tracking, location based reminders and I "need" a always-on data connection. Given this premise, my battery is bound not to last as long as other peoples' but I think starting to turn features off in order to preserve battery is not the way to go. I want to fully experience my phone and I'm aware that may cause battery drains. That's why I have a power bank ;pp
Regarding design, I'm very picky too, trust me. I do, however prefer minimalistic designs and both the N5 and 5X suit my design obsession. Again, this is also a matter of personal taste...
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Also jumping from a N5, where do you put the quality at? The one I used had a gigantic anti-theft alarm dongle glued to it's back so I couldn't really tell.
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Won't ask any questions, and if u answer, I'll say I never knew u. Lol
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H0tep said:
Won't ask any questions, and if u answer, I'll say I never knew u. Lol
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Ahahahah xD
It was in exposition in a major electronics shop and stuck to the counter with an alarm dongle and "chain" cable.
Didn't really use it at home or something with the dongle still attached xD