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How many stuck pixels is deemed a fault?

There's a red one at the centre of my screen which is really annoying, it's visible when trying to look at video and always ends up being what I focus on.
Since I noticed it I had a look and found more. About ten, mostly bright blue/green in colour. They're dotted around the screen, most on the edges.
The problem is that they're SO small you only really notice them in low light situations, which is when I'd want to use the phone to play video clips (before I go to sleep). To be honest, most of them you'd be hard pressed to see ever unless looking at a totally black screen, but 2-3 of them are really distracting. I don't know how to go about getting Orange to verify this problem. They've already denied me a replacement phone on the basis that they don't think the gap/unsealed screen is an issue and I think they'll try and fob me off.
I asked to be released from the contract when they said that they wouldn't be providing me with a phone which is up to standard and was refused.
I just feel really f*cked off with the whole experience. I wish I'd never bothered getting the phone, much less signing up to an 18 month contract for it.

tatwamasi said:
There's a red one at the centre of my screen which is really annoying, it's visible when trying to look at video and always ends up being what I focus on.
Since I noticed it I had a look and found more. About ten, mostly bright blue/green in colour. They're dotted around the screen, most on the edges.
The problem is that they're SO small you only really notice them in low light situations, which is when I'd want to use the phone to play video clips (before I go to sleep). To be honest, most of them you'd be hard pressed to see ever unless looking at a totally black screen, but 2-3 of them are really distracting. I don't know how to go about getting Orange to verify this problem. They've already denied me a replacement phone on the basis that they don't think the gap/unsealed screen is an issue and I think they'll try and fob me off.
I asked to be released from the contract when they said that they wouldn't be providing me with a phone which is up to standard and was refused.
I just feel really f*cked off with the whole experience. I wish I'd never bothered getting the phone, much less signing up to an 18 month contract for it.
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Personally I'd contact HTC rather than Orange. Orange customer service = dog sh!t IMHO.
If HTC confirm that you can get this fixed / replaced, send that to Orange for confirmation that the manufacturer says it is faulty so they should then replace it.
If they fob you off, get a supervisor and take it further.

Thanks Nicelad,
I told Orange that I'd contacted HTC (about the screen gap issue) and they had me take my phone to an Orange store and compare what they had in stock there with my handset.
The guy in the store said that the gap on my phone was a little bit bigger and the guy on the phone refused the replacement, saying that the gap that it wouldn't impede the performance of the phone. I argued that it'll be annoying once the screen is full of dust but they said that the performance of the phone would be unaffected so it didn't matter.
Although I'd found the hot pixels by this point I couldn't find them myself in the store under the bright lights so didn't bother saying anything to the guy in the shop.
I think I'm going to have to end up sending the phone to be serviced by HTC themselves which in itself fills me with dread as a quick google suggests that they blame anything they can on user error and then charge £20 for having looked at it.
Has anyone dealt with HTC's servicing?

Hmm when did you get the phone and how? In store or by phone/internet? Try using distance selling to just send it back

kam187 said:
Hmm when did you get the phone and how? In store or by phone/internet? Try using distance selling to just send it back
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Unfortunately, I'm over the 7 days.
I'm also on my third phone, the first one had no reception, the second had the gap and weird backlight bleeding (I only complained about the gap) and this one has the gap and the pixels.
It was ordered online almost 3 weeks ago.

Hmm too bad. I guess they're looking at the history and thinking you're just picky.
Its a pitty it doesn't develop a misterious hard to reproduce reception fault Then I would be inclined to kick up a huge fuss saying since you got it you just havnt been able to use this phone properly and its just not fit for purpose. EU regulations means you can ask for a refund and avoid all the waranty nonsense - even after 30 days.
You just need a fault to develop now
PS seen this thread? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545575
Looks like a common fault, that they really couldnt argue with you about since its not down to interpretation. If they tell you to go the waranty route, tell them you know you're rights and you're contract is with them. Either demand a new phone, or tell them you've had enough and want a total refund.

Just called Orange again...
They're sending me handset number 4! An unexpected turn of events.

Lol what did you say?

I just said "I've got stuck pixels, HTC say you should replace it" and the guy put it through.
I think it depends on who you get, as soon as the guy spoke I thought he sounded alright and I guess that's all it is. The woman who started the process of denying the significance of the gap sounded like a total jobsworth from the outset.
Basically, my advice is say nothing unless asked and hope for someone cool!

Lol cool! Lets hope no 4 is ok

I just put in for my 4th handset aswell. I feel guilty but then I think sod it, I paid 400 quid I want absolute quality.

If there's one thing this whole experience has taught me it's that I won't order something like this online again. There's too much to go wrong with it, much better to buy instore and reject immediately if necessary IMO.

I agree, if I get another dodge one I'll get my money back and try to get one on the high street so I can fully inspect it first.
I like the white one though- where can you get it that isn't mail order?

No Gap.
I've already seen some bad pixels though, hopefully they won't be too significant, I'll try to not let them bother me and if I can, I'll just get on with it...
EDIT: Just checked and while there are quite a few bad pixels, they're nowhere near as bad as the ones on my previous phone which had 3 really significant ones. This one has probably ten, but they're really small and seem to be only noticeable on a totally black background.
Not exactly the perfect result but I think this is the one I'll keep.

tatwamasi said:
No Gap.
I've already seen some bad pixels though, hopefully they won't be too significant, I'll try to not let them bother me and if I can, I'll just get on with it...
EDIT: Just checked and while there are quite a few bad pixels, they're nowhere near as bad as the ones on my previous phone which had 3 really significant ones. This one has probably ten, but they're really small and seem to be only noticeable on a totally black background.
Not exactly the perfect result but I think this is the one I'll keep.
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10! Still, thats bad!

nicelad_uk said:
10! Still, thats bad!
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Yeah, but you literally cannot see them unless really looking for them and only on a totally black background, they're tiny, I don't know if there are different degrees of stuck pixel but these would have to be the mildest.
I just watched a bit of a tv show with lots of dark scenes under a blanket (don't ask) so it was completely black. If I wanted to I could complain again but on my 4th handset, with no gap and everything else seeming fine I'll take what I've got. These are never going to be visible at anything approaching normal lighting. The one I sent back had pixels that could only be seen in a dim room anyway. Of the 4 I've had this is the one I'd pick. If I send it back and have to go through another 4 to get one this good then it'd be ridiculous. Not that I can imagine Orange allowing me 8 handsets.
Incidentally, the guy on the phone said "We're replacing the phone, battery, battery cover and charger" which led me to believe that I was getting a reconditioned phone but it was a new one that arrived.
When they collect a phone they take only the items listed above, This means I've got an extra 3 headsets and 3 USB leads now (I only gave them the plug part of the charger back). Which is handy since I had thought about hacking up the headset and putting some decent earphones on it and it means I can leave a USB lead in the charger, one in the computer, one in my 360 and one in my bag. Oh yeah, and 3 2gb cards (I broke one by running over it with my office chair wheels) Which is nice.

10 pixels? I would never accept that. Just keep nagging em till you get what you paid for!
Here is what you could do: Gather all the correspondence you had with the reseller, receipts, letters, e-mails anything. Write a letter explaining that you tried 4 different models that all had problems and that you want a working device without faults delivered to your house within the next 2 weeks and if not, you demand a refund (so you can buy the phone somewhere else)
Make copies/prints of all the letters and stuff you have, and put that in the envelope with the letter.
Send the letter to the reseller but go by the mail office (send it as a registered piece or something - dont know the correct translation for that ) and make sure the mailman has the reseller sign off on accepting your letter. (So you have some evidence he actually received the letter).
Now you wait out the 2 weeks, if you hear nothing from the reseller, you have every right to demand a refund anyway you want.

Dunno man, I'm not sure if my experience matches what other people's is of hot pixels. I bought my Mum a monitor for her computer a while ago which had a glaring green pixel about a third from the right of the screen, really in plain view but didn't say anything about it. She didn't notice it and was unaware of it when I mentioned it after the screen had to be replaced after 6 months (total panel failure). When I was a child I had a Sega Game Gear (remember those? I'm ageing myself here...) which had a dead pixel and I'd see it every single time I played a game. On my last phone there were at least 15 dead pixels (I stopped counting) and 3 were really significant, even though one was on the edge of the screen, as in the first row of pixels. The rest you didn't really see, except in low light and with a black background and a bit of a squint(I should note that I had the backlight turned up too).
Basically, I'm saying that I'm aware of them and have been annoyed by them in the past.
None of the pixels on this phone are as significant as the bad ones on my last phone. Also, in case people aren't sure, stuck pixels can be smaller than dead ones since they're only partly filled (I think). These are smaller than the bad ones on my last phone. Therefore I believe they're smaller than a pixel. When you're talking about 320 of them in lines, they're pretty small anyway.
The 3 signficant ones which were MUCH brighter than all the others and drew your eye on my last phone were really distracting. This phone has maybe one getting towards that that and it's right in the corner, but I still find it less signficant than the one on the very edge of the screen on my last phone.
Also, I watched something on my iPod last night which I have in a protective plastic case. The nicks, dents and scuffs between me and the screen haven't bothered me for ages now and I could easily remove the case to watch stuff if it bothered me.
If there was an HTC service centre nearby I'd maybe pop in there and try and get them to confirm / deny if my phone was within the scope of needing/being eligible for replacement.
It wouldn't surprise me if there are loads of people on this forum who have 10 stuck pixels like the ones on my phone but don't realise it.
Today, I don't think it's worth the hassle to me and I'm gonna try not to get worked up about it and I'm going to try not to pay attention when I do notice them. I'm not gonna go looking for fault either. I'd definitely take this screen over my previous 2, there are far worse ones out there.
If it gets really annoying maybe I will put it in for service a little while down the line.
Of course tomorrow I reserve the right to be filled with righteous rage and anger at the cheek of Orange and HTC in trying to get me to accept this shoddy joke of a piece of hardware.
EDIT: BTW, thanks for offering advice and trying to help, I do appreciate it.

tatwamasi said:
Dunno man, I'm not sure if my experience matches what other people's is of hot pixels. I bought my Mum a monitor for her computer a while ago which had a glaring green pixel about a third from the right of the screen, really in plain view but didn't say anything about it. She didn't notice it and was unaware of it when I mentioned it after the screen had to be replaced after 6 months (total panel failure). When I was a child I had a Sega Game Gear (remember those? I'm ageing myself here...) which had a dead pixel and I'd see it every single time I played a game. On my last phone there were at least 15 dead pixels (I stopped counting) and 3 were really significant, even though one was on the edge of the screen, as in the first row of pixels. The rest you didn't really see, except in low light and with a black background and a bit of a squint(I should note that I had the backlight turned up too).
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OMG! The statistics of you always getting dead pixels must be crazy... I really wonder if maybe the dead pixels are in your retina and not the devices
I buy alot of electronics and have only had to deal with dead pixels twice.

kam187 said:
OMG! The statistics of you always getting dead pixels must be crazy... I really wonder if maybe the dead pixels are in your retina and not the devices
I buy alot of electronics and have only had to deal with dead pixels twice.
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Well, to be fair, no monitor or tv or ipod or DS or other phone I've had has had this problem. I think HTC hate me!

>>> Build Quality - The Good, Bad, Ugly <<<

Good : Well i love the new tablet and in hand its light and a pleasure to use, the Plastic back is nice in hand and not slippery and visually this tablet is great. But ...........
Bad and Ugly : Here's my issue with the new Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1
What is happening and i can see this being a big problem down the road of use is that when i hold the Tab with my left hand in portrait with the dock connector on my palm of the left hand, the thin piece of the housing is getting bent and pulled away from the glass and over time i see this getting stretched out. i think Samsung should have built the aluminum edging more webbing in the glass to keep that delicate piece from being so flexible and flimsy.
Anyone else having/noticing this issue or any other flaws, defects ????
Here's a few pics of what i am mentioning :
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/204/img0528y.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/34/img0529ze.jpg
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/img0534n.jpg

Damn, and here I was pondering returning my Transformer for a better build quality Samsung. Shootz!
I still may do it though since I never use portrait mode and for the most part it will be on a stand, but still, it sucks to see that.

You must have a 10.1v
I have the Google i/o edition and the side looks different than your with regard to the placement of those round hole covers on either side in relation to the curve.
I think that on the i/o (hopefully it will be the same as the 10.1) it has resolved that issue. I am trying to hold it as you are mentioning and I see no movement whatsoever. even if i try to pry at it, it is super solid.
is your a 10.1v?
R

^^ No mines the 10.1

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^^ No mines the 10.1
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Same as the previous poster my LE from I/O does not look like that either. So what 10.1 do you have?

cosimoss said:
Same as the previous poster my LE from I/O does not look like that either. So what 10.1 do you have?
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mines from San Fran USA - Dev Conference , its the white back Limited Edition

Everyone needs to specify details regarding there unit if they have one. It is clear that the limited edition/early release galaxy tabs are not identically the same as the one yet to be released.

thats really strange, your tablet looks way different than mine which also came from the recent i/o event.
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it would seem there were multiple version of the same device if you have the limited edition white backed then...
anyone else? which do you have?
R

im trying to re-create your picture to make sure its not an optical illusion, but your bottom half of the silver bezel looks so angular/curved compared to mine which as you can see from the picture above is much less curved. Espeically noticeable with the small round hole covers on either end of the connector, mine are not very curves, yours seemvery curved and angular.
???
R

three weeks left and still so many questions and so little definitive answers! oh the humanity
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RTessi said:
thats really strange, your tablet looks way different than mine which also came from the recent i/o event.
picture attached...
it would seem there were multiple version of the same device if you have the limited edition white backed then...
anyone else? which do you have?
R
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No mine looks the same from that angle , here's a pic
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/84/img0535cj.jpg/

I don't understand - are you using it while something is plugged into the dock connector, or is just from normal use? Maybe you are just holding it wrong?

normal use , i take very good care of my toys hahaha
And no i don't have it plugged in when using it
if you hold it left handed its normal i find that the palm and strong of the thumb seem to put stress on the thin strip of aluminum and slightly pulls it away from the glass since on mine the thin strip is not any thicker under the glass as what i can see visually. so its seems to be a weak point of the aluminum bezel

Bummer i wonder if a port plug would help.
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I am not experiencing that same problem, but the glass in one of the corners does appear to be pealing up. Link below. Hoping that this is as far as it raises, but who knows... I talked to the Samsung guy at Google I/O and had my first device replaced for a similar issue I noticed there, and he said this first batch was made by hand in a bit of a rush so that they would be available for us googlers. I expect that the automated and machine driven build process for the production units will have more consistent quality.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/imag0206a.jpg/

brianwilcox said:
I am not experiencing that same problem, but the glass in one of the corners does appear to be pealing up. Link below. Hoping that this is as far as it raises, but who knows... I talked to the Samsung guy at Google I/O and had my first device replaced for a similar issue I noticed there, and he said this first batch was made by hand in a bit of a rush so that they would be available for us googlers. I expect that the automated and machine driven build process for the production units will have more consistent quality.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/854/imag0206a.jpg/
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Harsh that looks bad. I think the quality of the aluminum bezel is to thin and over time with alot of use our holding styles will cause these kind of issues.

H0CKEY said:
Harsh that looks bad. I think the quality of the aluminum bezel is to thin and over time with alot of use our holding styles will cause these kind of issues.
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Just got off the phone with Samsung about this issue. They will allow me to send the unit to them for repair/replacement. Im just a little worried about going through the whole process only to find that they will send me back a unit with similar or worse build quality issues... Anyone else noticing problems with the screen raising up? Might just stick with what I have for fear of winding up with an even worse unit. Really was starting to fall in love with this thing.

brianwilcox said:
Just got off the phone with Samsung about this issue. They will allow me to send the unit to them for repair/replacement. Im just a little worried about going through the whole process only to find that they will send me back a unit with similar or worse build quality issues... Anyone else noticing problems with the screen raising up? Might just stick with what I have for fear of winding up with an even worse unit. Really was starting to fall in love with this thing.
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I'm getting the same thing. Mine was this way out of the box at the conference, and with the plastic back pulling back, it looked like the tablet was warped. I popped it back into place and it looked good so I didn't say anything to anyone at the conference about it. I probably should have though, because now the screen is separating from the housing again in those two corners.
I stupidly threw away the blue card they gave at I/O that had the contact info for Samsung, who did you talk to about getting it repaired?

Not exactly getting a warm fuzzy feeling from this thread. I pre-ordered online. Starting to think I might want to cancel that and just wait for it at Best Buy, if even the Samsung tablets are having build quality issues.

Oh no. I was afraid these reports would begin to surface on the 10.1. Some of these issues described Ive seen in the 10.1v as well, although my biggest gripe with these is the severe backlight bleeding. I have now exchanged this device with Vodafone AU twice and seen a total of 6 units and all have had backlight bleeding and inconsistent build quality.
With the first unit I received both right corners of the screen were popping out over the bezel a little. I believed it to be a problem with the adhesive used, because if you were to put pressure on the corner it would hold for a second then release, and you could hear the "sticky" sound as the adhesive separated.
All the units I've sampled though have had really shocking problems with backlight bleeding/leakage. If you're someone who planned to watch movies on this tablet in dimly lit rooms, you could find this distracting. I do. Its a shame really because I otherwise like the quality of the display, and both 10.1 models are nicely designed and nice to hold. In a lot of ways I prefer the feel of the 10.1v over the iPad 2. Too bad though that the build quality is questionable across the range of what is now 3 different variants of the 10.1 that Samsung has produced. What's the deal Samy?!
I'm not sure what I'm going to do yet but most likely I'll return this 10.1v to Vodafail for a refund and wait it out for the 8.9. Perhaps I'll have better luck then?
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Common issues.. what to do?

I mistakenly waited until after asking my GF and receiving my TF101 for christmas to research them.. which is not normally like me, I just have a sort of brand loyalty to ASUS, guess it started many moons again with buying their mobos for custom PC builds.
Anyway, I have been extremely happy with it so far, but I have noticed some commonalities when complaining about the fitment of the screen bezel and "light bleed". That's when I took notice that the top of my bezel has about an 1/8th of an inch gap between it and the screen, the rest of the fitment is pretty solid. I haven't noticed any light bleeding in from the sides, but then again I've only had my transformer for a month. Now that I've noticed the gap, I'm conscious of it and it drives me nuts, and I've heard ASUS will warranty it, but it seem like it would be pretty easy to crack open and fix myself.
Warranty or DIY in this position?

Get an ipad.

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Get an ipad.
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lol oh hell no...

Sigh.. Am I being too demanding?

I have had I think like 5 RMAs all with different things wrong.. My last one SEEMED perfect but it overheated a lot then suddenly developed a really loud creaking of the frame, so I asked for another and now this one is sooo close to perfect but it has minor minor screen lifting on the left, nothing like it was on the earlier ones, just barely, doesn't move much, do you think it will get worse over time or should I just stick with it cause it's mostly fine ? If the screen lift stays as it is then whatever it's not that bad and I plan on getting a new phone soon anyways so I won't be on my tablet 100% of the time, but if the screen lift worsens then it's unacceptable.. What do you guys think? Did anyone with minor screen lift notice it get worse? I might just try the opening the back to fix it myself at this point.

noneabove said:
I have had I think like 5 RMAs all with different things wrong.. My last one SEEMED perfect but it overheated a lot then suddenly developed a really loud creaking of the frame, so I asked for another and now this one is sooo close to perfect but it has minor minor screen lifting on the left, nothing like it was on the earlier ones, just barely, doesn't move much, do you think it will get worse over time or should I just stick with it cause it's mostly fine ? If the screen lift stays as it is then whatever it's not that bad and I plan on getting a new phone soon anyways so I won't be on my tablet 100% of the time, but if the screen lift worsens then it's unacceptable.. What do you guys think? Did anyone with minor screen lift notice it get worse? I might just try the opening the back to fix it myself at this point.
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I would just keep this almost perfect one. I'm in the same situation as you. I RMA'd until I got a nearly perfect N7 with no flaw other than minor screen lift. Mine hasn't gotten worse and it's been over a month now.
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RockNrolling said:
I would just keep this almost perfect one. I'm in the same situation as you. I RMA'd until I got a nearly perfect N7 with no flaw other than minor screen lift. Mine hasn't gotten worse and it's been over a month now.
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Well that's promising then, yeah it's not even really bad right now it barely moves just a little high.. And assuming the next nexus isn't made my asus.. I will be getting it so that should offset anything wrong with my N7 Speaking of which though, does anyone remember any manufacturing defects with the samsung galaxy nexus ? Was it bad like this or can we hope for a smooth nexus release and this was just a fluke?

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Sigh.. Am I being too demanding?
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Yes
Its a pathetic $200, dude. Not to mention its built in the third world.
Keep the one you have and start using the dam thing. Geez!
After 5 RMA's Google should cancel all affiliation with you and tell you never to use ANY of their products EVER again.

na, if Google and Asus would of got it right the first time OP would not have to rma so much.
op, how long have you had your screen lift? has it stayed the same? I have had my nexus about a week. and have screen lift still deciding what to do
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I just got my 6th Nexus today and I feel the same as you. It has screen lift, stuck pixels, back cover doesn't sit right, backlight bleed, and it has a big LCD mura smudge in the top left corner.
Part of me wants to just give up and get a refund but it would be such a great device if there weren't any faults. I have concluded that none of them are faultless however; many posters here reckon theirs are fault free but I have yet to see one. If you have had 5 RMAs it's only because you, like me, are someone who notices the faults and isn't in denial about them.
Every one of them (but for the smallest percentage) has screen lift to some degree. I'm sure other, more capable manufacturers will be releasing properly built tablets in the very near future though so keep that in mind. You should probably also consider the possibility that the screen lift and the design flaw that causes it will potentially cause other more serious defects to appear like a cracked screen for example.
If the N7 had a direct competitor, there's no way I would buy the Nexus with all the faults it has but as yet, it's the best 7 inch out there all things considered. Won't be difficult for other manufacturers to beat though, just make a tablet with same specs and no faults.
In all honesty if you can't live with the screen lift I would get a refund and wait for something better to come along. You're very unlikely to get one without some sort of fault.

Often people just receive other peoples faulty trade ins. So it might only be 1-2 defective units if that was the case.
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Harry GT-S5830 said:
Often people just receive other peoples faulty trade ins. So it might only be 1-2 defective units if that was the case.
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I don't think this makes any sense, can you explain?

I would have given up after the second unit did not satisfy me.I am glad my first one works very well.
A case that covers the bezel takes car of any of those "slight screen lift" problems very well as I suspect it is just cosmetic in nature.jmo

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Albert Einstein
Just saying.
But to answer your question....yes. You will never be satisfied with this device because of your experience, either real or perceived you will always be looking for a flaw. Better to move on with another device that better meets your expectations.
Whatever you decide, good luck.

There is no perfect tablet out there and all of them have something that is going to irritate someone. Get a refund and spend double on the "perfect Ipad" which has no flaws....ever(sarcasm). Again, nothing is perfect in the technology world.

James-NC said:
I would have given up after the second unit did not satisfy me.I am glad my first one works very well.
A case that covers the bezel takes car of any of those "slight screen lift" problems very well as I suspect it is just cosmetic in nature.jmo
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This.
My case worked wonders for my minor lift, hasn't bothered me in weeks xD

Hemidroids said:
Yes
Its a pathetic $200, dude. Not to mention its built in the third world.
Keep the one you have and start using the dam thing. Geez!
After 5 RMA's Google should cancel all affiliation with you and tell you never to use ANY of their products EVER again.
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That seems a bit extreme.. I use the thing a lot, I love the device itself, I use it with 6+ hours of screen on time every day, I was just wondering if I was extremely unlucky.. This is the best one so far, my last one i thought was the best one but it became really loose after awhile...
motrinHD said:
na, if Google and Asus would of got it right the first time OP would not have to rma so much.
op, how long have you had your screen lift? has it stayed the same? I have had my nexus about a week. and have screen lift still deciding what to do
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Yeah I'm more annoyed with asus's factories and maybe also google for not monitoring the whole process..
I've had screen lift since the day I opened this one, but like I said it's not bad, it's like just barely reaching the silver part of the bezel, nothing like the original ones where it was above the bezel
Switchbitch said:
I just got my 6th Nexus today and I feel the same as you. It has screen lift, stuck pixels, back cover doesn't sit right, backlight bleed, and it has a big LCD mura smudge in the top left corner.
Part of me wants to just give up and get a refund but it would be such a great device if there weren't any faults. I have concluded that none of them are faultless however; many posters here reckon theirs are fault free but I have yet to see one. If you have had 5 RMAs it's only because you, like me, are someone who notices the faults and isn't in denial about them.
Every one of them (but for the smallest percentage) has screen lift to some degree. I'm sure other, more capable manufacturers will be releasing properly built tablets in the very near future though so keep that in mind. You should probably also consider the possibility that the screen lift and the design flaw that causes it will potentially cause other more serious defects to appear like a cracked screen for example.
If the N7 had a direct competitor, there's no way I would buy the Nexus with all the faults it has but as yet, it's the best 7 inch out there all things considered. Won't be difficult for other manufacturers to beat though, just make a tablet with same specs and no faults.
In all honesty if you can't live with the screen lift I would get a refund and wait for something better to come along. You're very unlikely to get one without some sort of fault.
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If this weren't a nexus device, I would have given up on it after the second RMA, hands down, but now the pros pretty much outweigh the cons, if my tablet stays in the condition it is for the forseeable future (until the next nexus tablet? haha) then I have no problem keeping it, despite the existing flaws. Also I'm considering the fact that when they eventually announce the next nexus phone that I will be picking it up pretty much right away, right now I have an older phone (htc desire Z) so I use my tablet like all the time when I'd be using my phone otherwise, even for texting often haha, so when I get a good phone I suspect it will offset my N7 usage and I won't care as much
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I would have given up after the second unit did not satisfy me.I am glad my first one works very well.
A case that covers the bezel takes car of any of those "slight screen lift" problems very well as I suspect it is just cosmetic in nature.jmo
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Yeah I need to get a case.. I just have a sleeve right now, I need to figure out which case is best and what I want it for.. I want something that doesn't add much bulk, and maybe one that can be a stand.. I saw one that was a rotating stand so you could set it up in both landscape and portrait and that one seemed cool cause most right now only show landscape :/

Hemidroids said:
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Its a pathetic $200, dude. Not to mention its built in the third world.
Keep the one you have and start using the dam thing. Geez!
After 5 RMA's Google should cancel all affiliation with you and tell you never to use ANY of their products EVER again.
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Douchebag alert ^
First we (consumers) are spending our hard earned cash on this tablet whether its $200 or $2000. We shouldn't have to settle for a half assed put together product. Their quality sucks period and isn't acceptable. They need six sigma and six S present in their factories. I should be able to RMA till the dumb f#%@s get it right. This is my last Asus product.…

I don't think its demanding at all to expect a product that's not defective right out of the box brand new. If you are within the time period of exchange I don't see why you shouldn't take it back if you aren't happy with what you paid for. It took me 6 exchanges with GameStop to finally get one I'm happy with, that hasn't had an issue out of the box or pop up after a week. If you get a good one this tablet is worth it, at least to me, its essentially a 7" version of my phone which is why I didn't give up looking for a good one. Asus should have better QC in place so I shouldn't have to. I also had the Prime so I can tell you it stinks
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I dont wish to read all the posts, but my last one had a minor screen lift that I did not notice for 2 days, but I sent it back because we payed for a tablet that doesnt have a screen lift, thats what it comes down to, not to mention any lift does compromise the glass. My second one is perfect.

A TPU case will provide protection and overhang the lip a little so you don't see any lift.
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TRY THE WASHER METHOD by making a few little plastic screw tabs. Pulled mine in nice and tight and it's now solid. I had real bad lift too and the bevel was also bowed on the side. Now everything is nice and straight. Great for a 5 minute fix.
As far as returns, returning something 5 times expecting different results is retarded (IMO). It is a manufacture defect where the screws are too long. They "solve" this by simply removing the screws (which is retarded too). So technically your aren't going to get a perfect device because they are all made that way. Sure there are some that don't have this (my first one) but chances are your going to have this on each one. So just fix it yourself. Big deal. It's easy and faster and BETTER then Asus' fix.
Dead Pixels or popped speakers or something that legitimately hinders your usage... yea exchange that sucker. A little screen lift isn't going to do anything.

I have not had any issues with mine at all, it is an August build. ASUS products have been good to me though. MY TF101 was also good. The power button was and does feel flimsy on that one though.
5 RMA's makes me think someone is looking at this with a magnifying glass and TRYING to find a reason to complain.

Hemidroids said:
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Its a pathetic $200, dude. Not to mention its built in the third world.
Keep the one you have and start using the dam thing. Geez!
After 5 RMA's Google should cancel all affiliation with you and tell you never to use ANY of their products EVER again.
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i hope you are joking. If not your screen name fits you well ( Ooops thought it was hemroids) I dont care how much you pay for the device it should have had better quality control before going out to the public.

player911 said:
A TPU case will provide protection and overhang the lip a little so you don't see any lift.
OR
TRY THE WASHER METHOD by making a few little plastic screw tabs. Pulled mine in nice and tight and it's now solid. I had real bad lift too and the bevel was also bowed on the side. Now everything is nice and straight. Great for a 5 minute fix.
As far as returns, returning something 5 times expecting different results is retarded (IMO). It is a manufacture defect where the screws are too long. They "solve" this by simply removing the screws (which is retarded too). So technically your aren't going to get a perfect device because they are all made that way. Sure there are some that don't have this (my first one) but chances are your going to have this on each one. So just fix it yourself. Big deal. It's easy and faster and BETTER then Asus' fix.
Dead Pixels or popped speakers or something that legitimately hinders your usage... yea exchange that sucker. A little screen lift isn't going to do anything.
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Yeah with this one I may just try the washer fix, especially since it seems reversible in the worse case scenario that my tablet breaks somehow.. or maybe I'll just cover it up or both, we'll see haha
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Rough edges, too hot, bad camera and visible pixel grid

I've recently purchased black HTC ONE. Although at first look device looks great (design is near perfection), I am really disappointed with its quality.
Build quality: both sides of the phone have rough edges - skin gets caught leaving white residue most of the time. Upper left edge of the screen is not fitted well - raised above the speaker grill
Really hot! It gets uncomfortable hot after few minutes of browsing over wifi - the screen gets warm as well! I also have GNote 2 and Iphone 4s and they get to such temperatures only after havy use when charging.
Camera is no good! (and yes I know how to take a picture) - pictures are noise (in relatively good light) and contain pinkish tint in center when focusing on white surfaces
Pixel grid (horizontal and vertical) is quite visible on the screen when jts turned off (this does not bother me), or on a mid day light and even indoors under some angles (and this is f-ing bothering me!)
I dont know did I get a really bad unit or this device is all looks and no quality...

ssasa said:
I've recently purchased black HTC ONE. Although at first look device looks great (design is near perfection), I am really disappointed with its quality.
Build quality: both sides of the phone have rough edges - skin gets caught leaving white residue most of the time. Upper left edge of the screen is not fitted well - raised above the speaker grill
Really hot! It gets uncomfortable hot after few minutes of browsing over wifi - the screen gets warm as well! I also have GNote 2 and Iphone 4s and they get to such temperatures only after havy use when charging.
Camera is no good! (and yes I know how to take a picture) - pictures are noise (in relatively good light) and contain pinkish tint in center when focusing on white surfaces
Pixel grid (horizontal and vertical) is quite visible on the screen when jts turned off (this does not bother me), or on a mid day light and even indoors under some angles (and this is f-ing bothering me!)
I dont know did I get a really bad unit or this device is all looks and no quality...
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Bad unit, get a replacement. There seem to be quite a few (I'm waiting for my second - because of a borked plastic cut) but I've also seen perfect examples...

Don't have any of those problems, Black One, build date 27th May Tierra del Fuego sub-contractor (FA)
Just send it back. Obvious.

so u expect ur first wife to be all sweet and caring and lovey dovey and makes a sandwich every morning?
get real

shiningarmor said:
so u expect ur first wife to be all sweet and caring and lovey dovey and makes a sandwich every morning?
get real
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So how many wives do you plan on trying to get?

That overheating issue you're facing is not normal, I believe. I have had a Galaxy S3 which got really hot after minimal usage, and the HTC One is great when it comes to that in comparison. You have to understand that aluminium soaks up the heat from the internals of the device, which is a good thing and a bad thing; it is perhaps bad because it can get a bit uncomfortable to hold while playing games, for instance, but at the same time it is good because it preserves the internals of the device and prolongs their life.
I have the a silver one and I do not face the problem with the edges. I read that the black one has a coating on it which makes it more prone to scratches, dings and chips than the silver one, so maybe that is the problem you're facing? I have also read that some of the earlier versions had gaps (like the screen not being fitted well, as you mentioned) but I am not sure about them. If you feel uncomfortable about the device, just go to the HTC service center and talk to them about it, perhaps they can sort you out a replacement if you're under warranty.
I cannot comment on the camera because I am by no means a photographer or even have a lot of experience with them, but it is suffice to say that I love the camera and I feel it is much better than my S3, sister's 4S and Dad's iPhone 5.

Yes I do expect here to be exactly as you've described. Maybe this is why my relationships does not last more than a year
I am also thinking of asking for another unit. But in my cowboy / banana country this really a hassle...

Nippero said:
So how many wives do you plan on trying to get?
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maybe 3 xD
ssasa said:
Yes I do expect here to be exactly as you've described. Maybe this is why my relationships does not last more than a year
I am also thinking of asking for another unit. But in my cowboy / banana country this really a hassle...
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hahaha
ot : ur unit isnt normal. get it replaced

TarekElsakka said:
That overheating issue you're facing is not normal, I believe. I have had a Galaxy S3 which got really hot after minimal usage, and the HTC One is great when it comes to that in comparison. You have to understand that aluminium soaks up the heat from the internals of the device, which is a good thing and a bad thing; it is perhaps bad because it can get a bit uncomfortable to hold while playing games, for instance, but at the same time it is good because it preserves the internals of the device and prolongs their life.
I have the a silver one and I do not face the problem with the edges. I read that the black one has a coating on it which makes it more prone to scratches, dings and chips than the silver one, so maybe that is the problem you're facing? I have also read that some of the earlier versions had gaps (like the screen not being fitted well, as you mentioned) but I am not sure about them. If you feel uncomfortable about the device, just go to the HTC service center and talk to them about it, perhaps they can sort you out a replacement if you're under warranty.
I cannot comment on the camera because I am by no means a photographer or even have a lot of experience with them, but it is suffice to say that I love the camera and I feel it is much better than my S3, sister's 4S and Dad's iPhone 5.
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Its not chipped or scratched. It looks quite nice really. However you can feal its edges scratching when you hold the phone. Nothing dangerous just bloody annoying - due to hype about build quality I had my expectations set high.
I am no photography expert I just take pictures with steady hand and in fair light - if my subject is the white wall, the pink tint is all over the middle of the picture
As others said probably very bad unit. I'll try to replace it on monday.

Definitely defective. I've been using the phone for the last hour browsing the net and checking email. Still cool to the touch. Not sure what the sharp edges are...

mine got pretty hot the first week i had it and the battery life wasnt very good but after having it for a while it seemed to have settled down and battery life is very good now

Itaintrite said:
Definitely defective. I've been using the phone for the last hour browsing the net and checking email. Still cool to the touch. Not sure what the sharp edges are...
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Cool to the touch? Do you have massive calluses on your hands that are impenetrable to heat? I don't know if I've read of anyone else describing this phone as cool to the touch when being used.
As for the OPs phone. Return it. I've got black One and it is so damn nice. If you aren't fully enjoying it, something must be defective. The casing certainly sounds like it is. The camera: I recently took a short trip and only brought the phone as my camera. Before, I didn't like the camera so much. After spending time with it, I grew to like it quite a bit. It isn't an amazing camera, but it still gets pretty good shots. Maybe your settings need some tweaking, or you got a really bad unit and the camera is defective as well.
Anyway, take it back. Get yourself a perfect One. :thumbup:
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ataft said:
Cool to the touch? Do you have massive calluses on your hands that are impenetrable to heat? I don't know if I've read of anyone else describing this phone as cool to the touch when being used.
As for the OPs phone. Return it. I've got black One and it is so damn nice. If you aren't fully enjoying it, something must be defective. The casing certainly sounds like it is. The camera: I recently took a short trip and only brought the phone as my camera. Before, I didn't like the camera so much. After spending time with it, I grew to like it quite a bit. It isn't an amazing camera, but it still gets pretty good shots. Maybe your settings need some tweaking, or you got a really bad unit and the camera is defective as well.
Anyway, take it back. Get yourself a perfect One. :thumbup:
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Well, then fact that I'm in a room with AC probably helps too. But yeah, pretty cool to the touch. Not even warm.

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ssasa said:
Yes I do expect here to be exactly as you've described. Maybe this is why my relationships does not last more than a year
I am also thinking of asking for another unit. But in my cowboy / banana country this really a hassle...
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I think a lot of us forget that not everyone has the opportunity to just walk in store and get a replacement.. There's a lot of downsides to ATT and Tmobile, etc. upsides are they will most likely exchange them until your happy. At least you dont have to accept a bad one..Keep mentioning zero gap til they bring one that applies I got lucky i guess and my first one is nearly perfect.
It sounds like yours is bad enough to do whatever you gotta do to get it replaced. Good luck,

Pixel grid? Do you mean you can see the digitalizer layer? This is quite normal on capacitive touch mobiles with thin glass
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