Wifi power drain bug, please report to samsung - Samsung Galaxy Tab S3 Guides, News, & Discussion

Please report the wifi issue here to pressure samsung for a fix :
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5/Tablets/tab-S3-wifi-power-drain-bug/m-p/123511#M5427

FWIW, reply from samsung support USA on twitter:
Do you have an ETA/are you looking into the Tab S3 Wifi power drain bug reported here:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/03/23/samsung-galaxy-tab-s3-review-good-tablet-bad-price/ …
and here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-tab-s3/how-to/firmware-update-usa-model-t3607101 …
I am experiencing the same issue on the latest AQDC firmware and the delay in getting this fixed is very concerning particularly since the older Tab S2 had no such issue. Strongly considering returning my Tab S3 unless this is addressed soon. Please advise, thanks much.
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Hello ! We apologize for the delay. Regrettably, we are unable to speculate on the release of any updates. We are working on this. ^Gill
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Thanks: while I realize ETAs are hard to give, I assume your response above confirms that the right Samsung teams are aware of the issue and hopefully a fix is in the works?
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This issue is being addressed by our engineering team. ^Lou

Just had T820XXU1AQF3 pushed to my device via OTA (I am running AQDC for BTU/Britain right now), fingers crossed

No dice, still drains a ton on standby.

Apparently samsung doesnt give two hoots about this device so I strongly advise folks against buying it.

No dice still with AQF5 KOO firmware today, I officially give up. Likely a hw issue , only reason they have not addressed it across 6 firmware updates. Too bad since the tablet is very decent otherwise. Unlikely this will ever get fixed at this point since this is not a Note 7 type headline grabber. Time to find an used S2 to replace the one I sold or wait on something else.My S3 is going back tomorrow.
FWIW, the drain is present on both 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz bands regardless of the band-setting, and with both my Linksys and ASUS AC1900 routers, neither of which have a Quantenna chipset (one known to cause power issues). Also, my S8+ on the same routers has spectacular standby life. Shame on Samsung for releasing yet another half baked product. Their silence on this is deafening.

undertaker2k14 said:
No dice still with AQF5 KOO firmware today, I officially give up. Likely a hw issue , only reason they have not addressed it across 6 firmware updates. Too bad since the tablet is very decent otherwise. Unlikely this will ever get fixed at this point since this is not a Note 7 type headline grabber. Time to find an used S2 to replace the one I sold or wait on something else.My S3 is going back tomorrow.
FWIW, the drain is present on both 2.4 Ghz and 5 Ghz bands regardless of the band-setting, and with both my Linksys and ASUS AC1900 routers, neither of which have a Quantenna chipset (one known to cause power issues). Also, my S8+ on the same routers has spectacular standby life. Shame on Samsung for releasing yet another half baked product. Their silence on this is deafening.
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Where are you getting these 6 firmware updates from? I've only gotten one (not rooted/factory).

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Galaxy tab 10.1 support and community size

What's the support and community size of the Galaxy tab 10.1 right now? I tried to do a search and I only found this forum to be the most active. Im curious because the tablet looks great but I also do like the idea of having development and a support community. The Xoom and Transformer seem to have a decent sized community. I'm just worried i'll have this badass tablet with no roms or any kind of help.
Also does the galaxy have usb host? If i buy that adaptor, can i start accessing external harddrives and usb flash drives in file explorers?
It will take some time till the Galaxy 10.1 community grows! Consider that the retail tab (not the IO or 10.1V) is in stores for about one week for now!
When I think back on the XDA forums for the other devices I had it was always the same: it took about one or two months from the public launch till some sort of "critical mass" was achieved...
Personally I think that the 10.1 3G will be a success, so the only thing we have to do is to wait a little
Concerning USB-host:
Yes, USB-host capabilities are there! You can use devices like your mouse, keyboards, hard-drives (some need external power though)...
TML1504 said:
It will take some time till the Galaxy 10.1 community grows! Consider that the retail tab (not the IO or 10.1V) is in stores for about one week for now!
When I think back on the XDA forums for the other devices I had it was always the same: it took about one or two months from the public launch till some sort of "critical mass" was achieved...
Personally I think that the 10.1 3G will be a success, so the only thing we have to do is to wait a little
Concerning USB-host:
Yes, USB-host capabilities are there! You can use devices like your mouse, keyboards, hard-drives (some need external power though)...
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Wait, when was the galaxy tab released? I thought it came out early June?? If it has been only a week or two that would definitely make sense haha
Is the harddrive issue needing external power something that could possibly be addressed in the future with custom roms and updates? Or is that some hardware restriction? I had the Toshiba thrive (sent it back) and it seemed to read and write anything like a monster.
kettlecorn said:
Wait, when was the galaxy tab released? I thought it came out early June?? If it has been only a week or two that would definitely make sense haha
Is the harddrive issue needing external power something that could possibly be addressed in the future with custom roms and updates? Or is that some hardware restriction? I had the Toshiba thrive (sent it back) and it seemed to read and write anything like a monster.
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All versions released before last week are/were preliminary ones! Samsung planned to release the tab ~3months ago (the 10.1V version), but then decided to redesign it a bit (thinner, lighter) so that it would compete well with the ipad2!
The "real" launch of the overhauled tab in Europe was last week (and in some countries it's still not available, also due to a lawsuit with apple). In my country (Austria) the launch took place last week, although available quantities are still very low, the price still relatively high (~EUR600)!
Regarding the USB-host:
The specification says any USB port should provide 500mA, I'm not sure if this value is reached by the tab-port. If yes then it should be no problem! If no it depends on the drive if it functions or not!
Custom roms can change power settings some times, this depends how the hardware is configured (if it is "stong" enough without taking damage)! For example the charging power could be adjusted at some phones by cookers!
GT10.1 WIFI only was released in US at least a month ago. In Europe it has been released in some countires. In my country, the expected release date is end of September.
About development and ROM's. It seems that most active development is for Transformer and Iconia. It seems that GT10.1 is not far behind and it seems to have the most potential. Xoom was the first HC tablet, it was released about 6 months ago and it still has only two custom ROM's.
The biggest problem is that there is no HC source code. Maybe ICS will change that...
poisike said:
GT10.1 WIFI only was released in US at least a month ago. In Europe it has been released in some countires.
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Agreed - in the UK it was definitely more than a week ago.
I'm from China.And GT-p7510 was released at 27th,Aug
And my P7510 is on the way,SF-express
Dang okay I guess I was mistaken, it wasn't released as early as I thought which answers the question. Sweet, I'm sure the community will get larger soon especially with source code or ICS coming out. I guess all the tablets development are somewhat stagnant for that reason. Thanks for the responses.
kettlecorn said:
Dang okay I guess I was mistaken, it wasn't released as early as I thought which answers the question. Sweet, I'm sure the community will get larger soon especially with source code or ICS coming out. I guess all the tablets development are somewhat stagnant for that reason. Thanks for the responses.
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in fact it was released in june!!! but officially it was not available in some countries. i say officially because it's just like saying the samsung galaxy s2 wasnt available in the us until yesterday.
http://www.samsung.com/us/news/newsRead.do?news_seq=19862&page=1&gltype=localnews
even some countries in europe started receiving it in june itself.
deeren said:
in fact it was released in june!!! but officially it was not available in some countries. i say officially because it's just like saying the samsung galaxy s2 wasnt available in the us until yesterday.
http://www.samsung.com/us/news/newsRead.do?news_seq=19862&page=1&gltype=localnews
even some countries in europe started receiving it in june itself.
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only the 10.1V and the 10.1 wifi versions were available that early, the 3G versions rolled out last week!! and as far as i can tell the 3G version will be the most popular one...
Regarding the op question: I think the Tab is rather complete and doesn't need many customizations. Think that will explain the difference with the other device communities. More satisfaction means less active development.
I've had my Tab since the end of June when it became available in the US (after the New York release in early June).
Since June, some weeks the community has a bunch of releases, then goes quiet with a few dev's releasing updates. Overall, after the last build release, the Tablet it great with TW (others will argue different) but its stable and fast. Only few mods need like the UA Agent fix.
TML1504 said:
The "real" launch of the overhauled tab in Europe was last week (and in some countries it's still not available, also due to a lawsuit with apple). In my country (Austria) the launch took place last week, although available quantities are still very low, the price still relatively high (~EUR600)!
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Holy moly... I paid around 450€ for the 3G 16GB version here in Bangkok...
I just hope the customs office in Germany won't rip me off when I get back later this month
Wubdidu said:
Holy moly... I paid around 450€ for the 3G 16GB version here in Bangkok...
I just hope the customs office in Germany won't rip me off when I get back later this month
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just make sure you dont keep the tab in its box, remove all the plastic seals from the accesories. In short, make sure that the tab and its box looks like for personal use and old. they would not tak you for that.

Purchase advice please

About a month ago, I decided to wait for the ICS to come out before purchasing the Galaxy Note in Hong Kong. After waiting for such a long time, ICS was released but a lot of users in HK have been complaining several issues since then. I also heard complains of a few common issues (e.g. poor battery life, worse response time) from users in other countries. However, there are also people who are satisfied with the update. What suggestion do you have?
I can buy the Note in Canada, HK or China. Not sure if I could get an international, unlocked version without signing for a contract with a carrier in Canada.
If the issues are due to bugs in the ICS, all the users should have the same problems. However, some users have reported that after the upgrade, their Note performs better than before. I am confused.
I am currently in HK. As some of you may know, usually the stores here do not have satisfaction guarantee for full refund.
Another possibility is just to forget about the Note and go for the S3 which comes with the ICS. However, there could be other issues.
Any purchase advice appreciated. Thanks.
Note is a very good option to buy. Also with ics upgrade there have been mixed feeling but then there are always updates that you get from Samsung.
Another option is to install the room from many of our developers who do lot more better job than Samsung itself. For example I am on paranoid Android and I am sure I am not going back to the stock room ever again. My two cents
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I went to a Samsung showroom in HK yesterday. Even the ICS was released 5 days ago, they still have both Galaxy Notes running GB. Perhaps they are afraid to let people know that Note + ICS = problems. I also checked with a Samsung store. The staff told me that he has not heard any complain. Yet, I have seen tones of complains posted on the Samsung Mobile Hong Kong FB page.
I can only praise the ICS on the Note, it is working perfectly and battery life is simply amazing. Go for it you will not have any regrets.
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Galaxy note has no problems with ICS.. I am a heavy user of roms and other goodies from xda devs but since last week or so i have been on stock ICS lp8, n there are no issues whatsoever.. Battery life is amazing and the phone is snappy.
I always make a fresh start before installing any rom that is i wipe clean everything before i install a rom.. Therfore i dont get any probs
Anyways note is a much better option and just dont worry about the complaints, depends on user to user
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Wait till note gets delivered with ICS and not with gb on it. ICS is okay atm it could be awsome but has alot of issues to be resolved. Some of them in fast forward,
battery drain,
wakeup locks,
brightness adjustment,
Wifi issue
Signal issue
overheating,
And ofc bricked phones due the kernel emmc issue.
Or I recommended that you buy the note and stay with 2.3.6 lc1 it rocks on all aspects. Except hardware Acceleration. And stay tuned on xda for news and don't jump on the ship when a new version comes, wait for people to test it and post their thoughts-comments for it.
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Your options: Wait until the Note is shipped with ICS, or buy now with GB and wait until samsung deliver the ics. There are mixed feelings and experiences of the ICS upgrade and its more down to differing hardware compatibility issues that Samsung have yet to address, rather than specific software bugs. Unfortunately, there is not a one size fits all, hence one reason for umpteen different update versions of ICS spread out over the globe. Complaints on twitter and XDA about ICS are starting to build up about ICS.
My own plan of action now that i've owned the GTN7k since Feb. is to try ICS when its available to me, anything I don't like, roll back to Gingerbread. There is not one extra feature on ICS that I need, want or find remotely useful. I'f we're honest, that probably goes for most guys, but its always nice to have the latest and they'll never admit it.

The 4.4.3 test

I have been using my PRO 12.2 for a couple of months and I am quite happy. Coming from a Google Nexus background (phone and 7" tablet) one of my main concerns with purchasing a Samsung product was it's poor history of providing software updates. I have owned Samsung tablets in the past and always felt stranded by the lack of updated versions of Android.
It will be interesting to see how fast it will take them to push out Android 4.4.3 OTA. 4.4.3 is a minor update so one would think that it would be fairly quick. I really hope Samsung passes the test. Let's see how serious they really are.
One of the major Samsung`s disadvantages is the poor support and updates for their whole products starting from smart phones to tablets.
For example Galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition was released in October 2014 with Jelly Bean 4.2 and just weeks ago Samsung started to roll out 4.3 for that great tablet. While they have released the Note Pro 12.2 with the kitkat 4.3 on January 2014...
"If you wanna the recent updates and software go and get their new product or you have to wait for a long time till you get the updates"
I think this is Samsung`s Policy.
skyhigh73 said:
One of the major Samsung`s disadvantages is the poor support and updates for their whole products starting from smart phones to tablets.
For example Galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition was released in October 2014 with Jelly Bean 4.2 and just weeks ago Samsung started to roll out 4.3 for that great tablet. While they have released the Note Pro 12.2 with the kitkat 4.3 on January 2014...
"If you wanna the recent updates and software go and get their new product or you have to wait for a long time till you get the updates"
I think this is Samsung`s Policy.
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... and that concerns me.
Please I am a new member here would you please show me how to download akp
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Samsung does often appear to be neglecting devices when it comes to updates. Fact of the matter is, 99% of the time the cause is a significant problem in the software adaptation.
The Note 3 was the very first non-nexus device to get 4.4.2, so it's not always the case.
You can't measure the release by Nexus standards. The Nexus-release is a glorified beta-test.
ShadowLea said:
Samsung does often appear to be neglecting devices when it comes to updates. Fact of the matter is, 99% of the time the cause is a significant problem in the software adaptation.
The Note 3 was the very first non-nexus device to get 4.4.2, so it's not always the case.
You can't measure the release by Nexus standards. The Nexus-release is a glorified beta-test.
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I don`t think so...
Simply there are 2 devices with almost the same hardware specs (Note 10.1 and Note Pro) the first one (10.1) has recently started to get the 4.4.2 update while the Note Pro was released with the Kitkat 4.4.2 on January 2014.
Another example, the upcoming tablets 10.5 S/Note 4/ Tab 4/...etc will be released with the recent updates 4.4.3 which is still not available for any other Tab/Note/Smart Phone...
I think it is not the matter of software adaptation but the priority goes for the upcoming products not those already released....
ShadowLea said:
Samsung does often appear to be neglecting devices when it comes to updates. Fact of the matter is, 99% of the time the cause is a significant problem in the software adaptation.
The Note 3 was the very first non-nexus device to get 4.4.2, so it's not always the case.
You can't measure the release by Nexus standards. The Nexus-release is a glorified beta-test.
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OEMs can access Google's internal Android's sources before they're open-sourced. Nexus isn't a benchmark - it's a public release of already finished firmware, and patching up the final issues, OEM's updates should follow within one-two months, not 6+ months or more. Since Note 3 is still one of their top phablets with no successors, they had to update it quickly enough to make people stay on their devices - if you'd spend 650 pounds on a device and then wait 6 months (if you're lucky) to get an update, you'd probably be pissed off (and rightfully so). They abandon their low-end devices or older flagships quite quickly.
For example, Galaxy S2 (which I own) was updated to 4.1, but not any further, despite being perfectly capable of doing so. According to Samsung, it's because they ran out of memory with TouchWiz bloatware 99.9% folks never use features, despite the fact that S3 was updated to 4.3, and had 1GB RAM - just as S2 did, S2 /system was 512MB, /preload was another 512MB. S3's firmware was ~800MB. So, really, it's just them having crappy business practices.
Another example? Galaxy Mini 2. It's moderately popular in Poland - it's cheap and "just works", and was released with 2.3 - had a couple of point releases, but never got past Gingerbread. There are 4.x ROMs for this phone here, and they're fast and fine. Capable - just Samsung's not interested. Okay, they were - and eventually announced that no update will be released.
I'm honestly admiring Microsoft for their WP8.1 upgrade policy.
Been there, done that. . My experience with a Verizon galaxy tab 10.1 was enough to convince me not to buy another Verizon variant of a Samsung tablet. If samsung is slow at releasing updates it only gets worse on carrier versions. Look at AT&T... they put in their FCC application at around the same time as Verizon for the Note probut are only now announcing it. In a world where refreshed hardware is released yearly having a 4 month lag in release is a bit concerning.
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Mr Dasher said:
I have been using my PRO 12.2 for a couple of months and I am quite happy. Coming from a Google Nexus background (phone and 7" tablet) one of my main concerns with purchasing a Samsung product was it's poor history of providing software updates. I have owned Samsung tablets in the past and always felt stranded by the lack of updated versions of Android.
It will be interesting to see how fast it will take them to push out Android 4.4.3 OTA. 4.4.3 is a minor update so one would think that it would be fairly quick. I really hope Samsung passes the test. Let's see how serious they really are.
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That's a systemic Android issue. Apple puts out updates to their 7 year old devices, but Android devices are always abandoned in less than a year. Hopefully, we'll get better support for this device.

Post all information about Note PRO getting or not Android 6.0 Marshmallow here!

Hi everyone! I created this thread to collect any info about getting a Marshmallow update on our beloved Note PRO.
Did Sammy say anything about it?
Greetings!
Boy that would be nice for it to be updated to 6.x but I'm not holding my breath. I read an article that said our tablets are considered old and outdated as the came out Feb 2014... Nice.
FYI just updated Nexus 7 to 6.0 and it's from 2013.
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rodnok1 said:
Boy that would be nice for it to be updated to 6.x but I'm not holding my breath. I read an article that said our tablets are considered old and outdated as the came out Feb 2014... Nice.
FYI just updated Nexus 7 to 6.0 and it's from 2013.
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Considering the tablet is less than two years old, and Samsung has a pretty good track record of providing OS updates during the first 2 years, I'd say chances are good. But, it'll probably be next fall when the "N" release is ready to drop. haha
With that said, the one factor that I think works against the Note Pro is the fact that it probably didn't sell very many units. It was incredibly expensive, and most people simply didn't want a tablet that big.
Time will tell.
I doubt it we haven't even got lollipop yet so the chance of marshmallow is 0%
Kohrok said:
I doubt it we haven't even got lollipop yet so the chance of marshmallow is 0%
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Well, I got the OTA update to Lollipop (5.0) two weeks ago. I am in Poland.
So IF we'll get the 6.0, it will be probably muuuch later than anyone else. My Nexus 6 hasn't got it yet.
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I doubt it we haven't even got lollipop yet so the chance of marshmallow is 0%
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I'm not sure what you mean, I'm on 5.0.2 right now, which is lollipop. The only feature I care about on Android M is Doze. My tablet drain about 20% overnight or when not in use for a day and I feel like Doze can bring that down to 5% or less so it's comparable to Ipad's standby time. I've tried Greenify and other similar "sleep" applications and they end up not saving any battery.
Idk our hardware is quite similer to Note3 hardware which wont get M !!
Just dont get your hopes so high guys since this company wont listen or even care about us loyal customers !
Trust me i've been in a situation like this before with my Note2.
Anyway i don't use my tablet as a social media device as they are the most reason to drain battery so quickly especially viber also turn off location completly.
So i really dont care about google so called doze or whatever sorcery they keep throwing at us as some marketing s**t !!!
Kohrok said:
I doubt it we haven't even got lollipop yet so the chance of marshmallow is 0%
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I'm on 5.1.1 from Samsung on my Verizon Note Pro.
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I'm not sure what you mean, I'm on 5.0.2 right now, which is lollipop. The only feature I care about on Android M is Doze. My tablet drain about 20% overnight or when not in use for a day and I feel like Doze can bring that down to 5% or less so it's comparable to Ipad's standby time. I've tried Greenify and other similar "sleep" applications and they end up not saving any battery.
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If you are sure that there is no app eating your power, I'm pretty sure that you have a defective battery that you should consider to substitute.
pgackowski said:
Well, I got the OTA update to Lollipop (5.0) two weeks ago. I am in Poland.
So IF we'll get the 6.0, it will be probably muuuch later than anyone else. My Nexus 6 hasn't got it yet.
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Still on 4.4.2 here in the UK so no we still havnt recieved lollipop yet and 2 weeks ago Andriod L was realesed a year ago most google devices are using marshmallow now If you take Samsungs time scale as a factor google will have upgraded all there machines to 8.0 by the time we would recieve 6.0, so like I said I doubt very much they will upgrade an old tablet that didn't sell well to Marshmallow. If by some miracle they do, it will be 2 years out of date so again no real point to.
I've been researching about an update for my Verizon p905v for several days now because I switched to T-Mobile a few months ago and they don't sell this tablet so I didn't trade it in. I just added it to my account and put T-Mobile's sum card in it but the tablet won't recognize the sun card and still thinks it's a Verizon tablet, but that's off topic, just said that to explain why I couldn't update through the settings. Anyway, through Kies I was able to update to 5.1.1 a week or two ago. I read somewhere why researching this that the p905v WILL be getting the 6.0 update! It listed a few Samsung devices and the Note Pro 12.2 was the last one on the list to be getting it. I'll try to find where I read that and post a link here if I can find it again. FYI, you can't judge the update or timeline by comparing to any Nexus device, that site also said all Nexus devices will get the update first since they are Google devices. Hope this helps answer some questions, again I'll post a link to that site if I can find it.
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I've been researching about an update for my Verizon p905v for several days now because I switched to T-Mobile a few months ago and they don't sell this tablet so I didn't trade it in. I just added it to my account and put T-Mobile's sum card in it but the tablet won't recognize the sun card and still thinks it's a Verizon tablet, but that's off topic, just said that to explain why I couldn't update through the settings. Anyway, through Kies I was able to update to 5.1.1 a week or two ago. I read somewhere why researching this that the p905v WILL be getting the 6.0 update! It listed a few Samsung devices and the Note Pro 12.2 was the last one on the list to be getting it. I'll try to find where I read that and post a link here if I can find it again. FYI, you can't judge the update or timeline by comparing to any Nexus device, that site also said all Nexus devices will get the update first since they are Google devices. Hope this helps answer some questions, again I'll post a link to that site if I can find it.
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Verizon is CDMA and TMobile is GSM. The two are not compatible. It will not work unless the tablet has both radios. Not sure if the note PRO has a GSM radio. If it does, then you will need to turn the radio on. Probably by loading a custom ROM.
pgackowski said:
Well, I got the OTA update to Lollipop (5.0) two weeks ago. I am in Poland.
So IF we'll get the 6.0, it will be probably muuuch later than anyone else. My Nexus 6 hasn't got it yet.
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if you check firmwares and countries , you will see that the 100% samsung is not updated while the "sponsorshiped" one is updated...
i discovered that with a generic 4g sm-p905 that is "registered" south-africa-unlocked...
Maybe some people will gonna cook M rom as custom rom. Anyway, i beleive, not many people know what is new in new version of apps, iOS, they just want be one step back. "New version of .........." they click next, next, like a secreteary in offce with computer.
i think you mean a word i created , in french , that is "MesFessesAussi" , translatable by " My A$$ Too" . that sounds like M$Office and targets those dumb&lazy Girls...cool joke ;']
the mobile is my first one and mostly for GPS , but i never take again any G8gle-Android or samsung product .
this is pure **** for os and drivers updates , plus warranty . samsung being the biggest mother****er i have ever seen , it forces users to buy its products with its os where no drivers can be added ...and all is using free code....
G8gle being not "aware" of the way its "os" is used and delivered to customers...sucks as well as the chinese or even more...[ i understand why chromeos had no success...]
they are BANKSTER$ , turning something well working and free into a private and :silly: thingies..
to sum it : android by samsung is like posting a reply here with "g8gle chrome" : IMPOSSIBLE
when it come to check the "Robotologie"...image Verification pop-up not showing....Verification expired...
android - g8gle$a$$ung too : bunch of has-been
posted with FireFox...the one that made browsing the web free : POSSIBLE...
beside that : anyone uses the addblock-browser made for android$ ?
addblock , a nice extention that makes browsing " free of g8gle"$ add$ "....
rodnok1 said:
Boy that would be nice for it to be updated to 6.x but I'm not holding my breath. I read an article that said our tablets are considered old and outdated as the came out Feb 2014... Nice.
FYI just updated Nexus 7 to 6.0 and it's from 2013.
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I just bought the galaxy note pro 12.2, barely used for a good price. Even thought it's old, it should do what I need. I would hope to get at least 3 years out of it and the update to marshmallow would be nice. This is my first samsung tablet. I had previous iPad. Is it not likely Samsung will update this tablet? What's the big difference between lollipop and marshmallow anyway? Maybe it won't really matter.
Everyone tells me I should buy the iPad pro instead because of newer tech.
I think that the only way we will get Marshmallow for this tablet is if a dev cooks it up for us. I'm also wondering why there is no news of a new version of this table (or any Note tablet) in the works. I'm wondering if Samsung has abandoned the Note series of tablets. If they have that would be a shame. I use an iPhone, but the handwriting and multi-screen are of importance to me (so no change to an iPad).
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I think that the only way we will get Marshmallow for this tablet is if a dev cooks it up for us. I'm also wondering why there is no news of a new version of this table (or any Note tablet) in the works. I'm wondering if Samsung has abandoned the Note series of tablets. If they have that would be a shame. I use an iPhone, but the handwriting and multi-screen are of importance to me (so no change to an iPad).
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I too am wondering why there isn't news of a new tablet. I was in the market for one, and didn't want another iPad. I have an iMac as my computer, but don't like apples phones so have galaxy note 3 and thought my iPad was limited in function so wanted a galaxy tab. I had to buy used. I know with CES being around the corner, if there is something in the works, they should announce it then. But I couldn't wait. I hope to at least get 2 years out of the note pro.
if nothing else, maybe someone will make a cyanogenmod 13 rom for it. that would be really nice.
Techradar marshmellow
"Android Marshmallow update: when can I get it?"
They mention the note pro.
I think it is a good idea for Samsung to do this asap as the market for large screen stylus powered devices is growing quickly with the iPad pro and tablet 4. The already with the note pro have a foothold device in that sector so they can launch off the back of it. Keeping the note pro relevant is important for now.
BTW, I've used both the iPad pro and windows 4 tab at work and still prefer the Note pro 12.2 even though it is a year old and less powerful. At the price point of the Note pro it is a fantastic device.

To Update or Not!

Hi guys!
Just wanted a few suggestions. I have a SM-G935FD and currently running G935FXXU1BPH firmware. Some time ago I had received the OTA update for BPIO. Am still wondering if one should update the phone or not. I am happy with my current setup and battery life, and historically whenever I have updated samsung phones they have led to some or the other bugs and poorer battery life. The only compelling reason is the security patches. What is the view of people out here? Can one continue to use his phone as stock always if he is happy with the performance or should you always do the OTA updates?
I think, if you happy with current version and the next version doesn't has useful features(read update change log) then you should keep it.
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The update changelog usually don't say anything. It is just a "standard" text to inform you that the update MAY contain security updates, fixes or new features. You never don't know exactly what is changed or added...not from that log anyways. Best thing is to check over the Internet by the update code to find a detailed changelog but that's also hard to find.
I would advice to update tho, regardless of your past experiences. Most of the time updates contain bug fixes and/or security patches and they are also incremental. That means that, even if you don't update now, at some point, when a big update will come containing new features for ex, you'll want to upgrade. And that update will contain also previously skipped updates. Nobody tries to ruin your end user experience, especially on a high end phone like this and for sure they have a high quality control in place. But as everyone knows, there are bugs and flaws that could cause issues in some specific cases.
On S6 Edge and my current S7 Edge I had several updates and none brought me an issue...so go ahead.
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Perosnally I don't understand why you wouldn't update.
I'm on 1BPH and no updates available at the moment.. Haven't had an update since I've had the phone
Received mine several days ago,haven't had an update.
Rapier said:
The update changelog usually don't say anything. You never don't know exactly what is changed or added...not from that log anyways. Best thing is to check over the Internet by the update code to find a detailed changelog but that's also hard to find.
I would advice to update tho, regardless of your past experiences. .
On S6 Edge and my current S7 Edge I had several updates and none brought me an issue...so go ahead.
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the_scotsman said:
Perosnally I don't understand why you wouldn't update.
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Well the only reason I don't feel like updating is that I have the mortal fear of bugs and bad battery life. In all previous experiences with android, updates mostly gave issues (mostly used Samsung and LG). Also its so difficult to know what are the changes being made.
We have no way to know that companies are actually injecting bugs to reduce battery or performance once their next flagship phones are out! So that customers are compelled to upgrade! Infact so many of friends and family have given this opinion that android phones don't last. After a year or too it becomes buggy or slow. Whereas look at apple my Ipad 2 still gets updates and battery is phenomenal!
I know most of what I am saying may be more of hunch but that's the reason I was wondering what others think about it...
Smith 001 said:
Received mine several days ago,haven't had an update.
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As long as it runs good don't worry. You may have got an already updated phone
alok_dhawal said:
As long as it runs good don't worry. You may have got an already updated phone
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Simply put, it is a gamble. Ask anyone who had the phone in March, then updated to April and got Android System drain and 6-7 hour SOT down to 4-5 lol. There is a 200+ page thread and the only known thing in there is that Samsung update on the S7 series have made battery life dog poop (compared to what it used to be).
Even those who claim great battery life, would have more if they flashed March firmware again. I flashed the most recent update and it was OK. Nothing special. Went back to March though, battery took a massive hit. I'd say stay where you are if things are running smoothly. I ain't updating till Nougat or till they fix Android System burning through 20-30% of the battery.
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Simply put, it is a gamble. Ask anyone who had the phone in March, then updated to April and got Android System drain and 6-7 hour SOT down to 4-5 lol. There is a 200+ page thread and the only known thing in there is that Samsung update on the S7 series have made battery life dog poop (compared to what it used to be).
Even those who claim great battery life, would have more if they flashed March firmware again. I flashed the most recent update and it was OK. Nothing special. Went back to March though, battery took a massive hit. I'd say stay where you are if things are running smoothly. I ain't updating till Nougat or till they fix Android System burning through 20-30% of the battery.
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Exactly!!!
Galactus said:
Simply put, it is a gamble. Ask anyone who had the phone in March, then updated to April and got Android System drain and 6-7 hour SOT down to 4-5 lol. There is a 200+ page thread and the only known thing in there is that Samsung update on the S7 series have made battery life dog poop (compared to what it used to be).
Even those who claim great battery life, would have more if they flashed March firmware again. I flashed the most recent update and it was OK. Nothing special. Went back to March though, battery took a massive hit. I'd say stay where you are if things are running smoothly. I ain't updating till Nougat or till they fix Android System burning through 20-30% of the battery.
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one day one charge,always on display with a pic,mostly use it at noon and evening,battery life is not so poor.
Maybe the firmware on my phone is March firmware.lol:laugh:
Galactus said:
Simply put, it is a gamble. Ask anyone who had the phone in March, then updated to April and got Android System drain and 6-7 hour SOT down to 4-5 lol. There is a 200+ page thread and the only known thing in there is that Samsung update on the S7 series have made battery life dog poop (compared to what it used to be).
Even those who claim great battery life, would have more if they flashed March firmware again. I flashed the most recent update and it was OK. Nothing special. Went back to March though, battery took a massive hit. I'd say stay where you are if things are running smoothly. I ain't updating till Nougat or till they fix Android System burning through 20-30% of the battery.
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Exactly my point. When you buy the phone you know what you are buying and what is expected. However once you update that control goes back to the supplier who may ruin or improve you experience!!
Which firmware are you referring to? Please share the link.
alok_dhawal said:
Exactly my point. When you buy the phone you know what you are buying and what is expected. However once you update that control goes back to the supplier who may ruin or improve you experience!!
Which firmware are you referring to? Please share the link.
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http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/67697/G935FXXU1APC8_G935FBTU1APB2_BTU/
This is what I use for my UK s7 edge
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