I have been using my PRO 12.2 for a couple of months and I am quite happy. Coming from a Google Nexus background (phone and 7" tablet) one of my main concerns with purchasing a Samsung product was it's poor history of providing software updates. I have owned Samsung tablets in the past and always felt stranded by the lack of updated versions of Android.
It will be interesting to see how fast it will take them to push out Android 4.4.3 OTA. 4.4.3 is a minor update so one would think that it would be fairly quick. I really hope Samsung passes the test. Let's see how serious they really are.
One of the major Samsung`s disadvantages is the poor support and updates for their whole products starting from smart phones to tablets.
For example Galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition was released in October 2014 with Jelly Bean 4.2 and just weeks ago Samsung started to roll out 4.3 for that great tablet. While they have released the Note Pro 12.2 with the kitkat 4.3 on January 2014...
"If you wanna the recent updates and software go and get their new product or you have to wait for a long time till you get the updates"
I think this is Samsung`s Policy.
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One of the major Samsung`s disadvantages is the poor support and updates for their whole products starting from smart phones to tablets.
For example Galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition was released in October 2014 with Jelly Bean 4.2 and just weeks ago Samsung started to roll out 4.3 for that great tablet. While they have released the Note Pro 12.2 with the kitkat 4.3 on January 2014...
"If you wanna the recent updates and software go and get their new product or you have to wait for a long time till you get the updates"
I think this is Samsung`s Policy.
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... and that concerns me.
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Samsung does often appear to be neglecting devices when it comes to updates. Fact of the matter is, 99% of the time the cause is a significant problem in the software adaptation.
The Note 3 was the very first non-nexus device to get 4.4.2, so it's not always the case.
You can't measure the release by Nexus standards. The Nexus-release is a glorified beta-test.
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Samsung does often appear to be neglecting devices when it comes to updates. Fact of the matter is, 99% of the time the cause is a significant problem in the software adaptation.
The Note 3 was the very first non-nexus device to get 4.4.2, so it's not always the case.
You can't measure the release by Nexus standards. The Nexus-release is a glorified beta-test.
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I don`t think so...
Simply there are 2 devices with almost the same hardware specs (Note 10.1 and Note Pro) the first one (10.1) has recently started to get the 4.4.2 update while the Note Pro was released with the Kitkat 4.4.2 on January 2014.
Another example, the upcoming tablets 10.5 S/Note 4/ Tab 4/...etc will be released with the recent updates 4.4.3 which is still not available for any other Tab/Note/Smart Phone...
I think it is not the matter of software adaptation but the priority goes for the upcoming products not those already released....
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Samsung does often appear to be neglecting devices when it comes to updates. Fact of the matter is, 99% of the time the cause is a significant problem in the software adaptation.
The Note 3 was the very first non-nexus device to get 4.4.2, so it's not always the case.
You can't measure the release by Nexus standards. The Nexus-release is a glorified beta-test.
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OEMs can access Google's internal Android's sources before they're open-sourced. Nexus isn't a benchmark - it's a public release of already finished firmware, and patching up the final issues, OEM's updates should follow within one-two months, not 6+ months or more. Since Note 3 is still one of their top phablets with no successors, they had to update it quickly enough to make people stay on their devices - if you'd spend 650 pounds on a device and then wait 6 months (if you're lucky) to get an update, you'd probably be pissed off (and rightfully so). They abandon their low-end devices or older flagships quite quickly.
For example, Galaxy S2 (which I own) was updated to 4.1, but not any further, despite being perfectly capable of doing so. According to Samsung, it's because they ran out of memory with TouchWiz bloatware 99.9% folks never use features, despite the fact that S3 was updated to 4.3, and had 1GB RAM - just as S2 did, S2 /system was 512MB, /preload was another 512MB. S3's firmware was ~800MB. So, really, it's just them having crappy business practices.
Another example? Galaxy Mini 2. It's moderately popular in Poland - it's cheap and "just works", and was released with 2.3 - had a couple of point releases, but never got past Gingerbread. There are 4.x ROMs for this phone here, and they're fast and fine. Capable - just Samsung's not interested. Okay, they were - and eventually announced that no update will be released.
I'm honestly admiring Microsoft for their WP8.1 upgrade policy.
Been there, done that. . My experience with a Verizon galaxy tab 10.1 was enough to convince me not to buy another Verizon variant of a Samsung tablet. If samsung is slow at releasing updates it only gets worse on carrier versions. Look at AT&T... they put in their FCC application at around the same time as Verizon for the Note probut are only now announcing it. In a world where refreshed hardware is released yearly having a 4 month lag in release is a bit concerning.
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I have been using my PRO 12.2 for a couple of months and I am quite happy. Coming from a Google Nexus background (phone and 7" tablet) one of my main concerns with purchasing a Samsung product was it's poor history of providing software updates. I have owned Samsung tablets in the past and always felt stranded by the lack of updated versions of Android.
It will be interesting to see how fast it will take them to push out Android 4.4.3 OTA. 4.4.3 is a minor update so one would think that it would be fairly quick. I really hope Samsung passes the test. Let's see how serious they really are.
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That's a systemic Android issue. Apple puts out updates to their 7 year old devices, but Android devices are always abandoned in less than a year. Hopefully, we'll get better support for this device.
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As you may ask know, Android 4.4 is out and yet no official 4.2 yet for our note 10.1talk more of 4.4. Samsung gradually becoming as arrogant as Apple.. Lol
I'm starting to regret buying this device.. What do all think?
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As you may ask know, Android 4.4 is out and yet no official 4.2 yet for our note 10.1talk more of 4.4. Samsung gradually becoming as arrogant as Apple.. Lol
I'm starting to regret buying this device.. What do all think?
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Honestly I buy a device as what it is unless specifically told it will receive x in x months baring a software hitch that needs addressed. Every update is simply a bonus. If I want more I generally turn to the dev community for that something extra. Samsung I think said note 10.1 would get 4.2 I think and I like that but when they get around to it is up to them really. If updates are super important the nexus devices get them all quick. I don't really view it as arrogance so much as we have allocated this many men and this much funds for these updates and when they are ready you'll get them as it's an extra feature to an already finished product.
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As you may ask know, Android 4.4 is out and yet no official 4.2 yet for our note 10.1talk more of 4.4. Samsung gradually becoming as arrogant as Apple.. Lol
I'm starting to regret buying this device.. What do all think?
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1. Android 4.4 was announced, it is not "out"
2. Do your homework next time, samsung has a habit of late updates, its a continuing trend with them. Want fast updates? Grab a nexus device.
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As you may ask know, Android 4.4 is out and yet no official 4.2 yet for our note 10.1talk more of 4.4. Samsung gradually becoming as arrogant as Apple.. Lol
I'm starting to regret buying this device.. What do all think?
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As another said, announced but not out. I'm use a rom and I can't complain. I have no functionality missing and can complete all my tasks. An update really wouldn't improve that. If it was a security flaw or a device crippling problem I'd have a need for a patch more urgently. Really not a reason to regret buying a device.
Not interested if an updates comes i will use it .
Pointless jumping on the continual why have we not got xxx update yet .
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Not this again.. Google's own statistic shows that the majority of users do not care one bit about which version of the software they are using. Another big part of the users with newer versions simply got a prompt and clicked on it.
I was all worked up when my dad's Note 1 got the JB treatment. You know my dad's reaction when he saw JB (jumping from Gingerbread mind you)? "What's the difference?".
The people who want the latest version of Android are mostly fans of technology. And most of them usually just go with newer devices or don't rely on stock software.
So I'm not at all surprised that Samsung is lazy with its updates. There's no real pressure for them and since they are primarily a mass manufacturer then what do they care if 1 000 000 people (probably a lot less) around the world are feeling left out when they probably sell that many devices (total volume) every few days.
The good part is - Android is still open, so you can always jump to a ROM and get the new software if you so wish. I myself am now spoiled by some of Samsung's apps and features so as long as it's Jelly Bean, I'm happy and it does what I've bought the device to do. IF we get 4.4 - great. It should have been 5.0, but again - who cares besides geeks like us.
4.3 should come out after october when they update the S3 and S4, Samsung noted that the note 10.1 would get the next major android update at the time it was thought it would be 5.0 but now we see it is 4.4. I'm worried now that we will never get 5.0 on the 10.1, but that will be many months down the line.
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I'm more concerned about fixing bugs. Fix the bugs first and if another version comes along, great -- but still fix the bugs.
Wich makes me ask: what is the best (= most effective) way of reporting bugs so they might get fixed?
I'm not really waiting for 4.3 or 4.4 new features but there's at least one bug (USB host connection) I'd desperately want to have fixed.
It's just business 101.
Samsung is not going to release 4.2.2/4.3 for the Note 10.1 or even the Note 2 for that matter with the impending release of the Note 3 and Note 10.1 2013 Model.
It would hurt potential sales and upgrades. They will come but I doubt anytime soon.,
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4.3 should come out after october when they update the S3 and S4, Samsung noted that the note 10.1 would get the next major android update at the time it was thought it would be 5.0 but now we see it is 4.4. I'm worried now that we will never get 5.0 on the 10.1, but that will be many months down the line.
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4.0.x ics, 4.1.x-4.3.x jellybean, 4.4.x kitkat... who knows when 5.0 will come out and what it will be. I'm sure we will get 4.3 and 4.4, 4.4 being the next major update.
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dannyella said:
As you may ask know, Android 4.4 is out and yet no official 4.2 yet for our note 10.1talk more of 4.4. Samsung gradually becoming as arrogant as Apple.. Lol
I'm starting to regret buying this device.. What do all think?
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Actually, 4.4 is not out yet. All they've done is announced the name. 4.3 is still the current version.
That being said, given that the new Note 10.1 will ship with 4.3 (I believe), it is a little annoying (ok - a lot annoying) that there's no news about an upgrade for existing Note 10.1s...
I think they will release sooner than later because they will want to sell more watches.
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Updates are rolling out for so Samsung devices
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As you may ask know, Android 4.4 is out and yet no official 4.2 yet for our note 10.1talk more of 4.4. Samsung gradually becoming as arrogant as Apple.. Lol
I'm starting to regret buying this device.. What do all think?
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I have the Tab 2 7.0 bought last August with ICS on it. Already it has been updated twice 4.1.2 and this August 4.2.2. Samsung is now updating Note 2. So the update is coming and Note 10 has a lot more features to tweak. You sound in a hurry for no reason. Why not just enjoy your tablet as is until it does. Apps make the tablet so if you want newness add some apps.
I usually change roms but on my non-rooted tablet launchers, themes and apps. Amazon gives a free paid app every day and plenty of sources to get apps besides Playstore and Samsung just virus scan them first or use an old Android device as test dummy.
I know that Sammy guys lurk here around and since there is no new 8 inch note. Pro ..
I wish Samsung would update the n5100 with kit kat directly with the new UI. ..
Please Samsung. . Give us the update
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According to me Samsung will release 4.4 to 8.0 because the note:
- They want to force the customer to buy new equipment
4.4'll get if you come later android.
Here in Poland we have not yet even 4.2.2
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I know that Sammy guys lurk here around and since there is no new 8 inch note. Pro ..
I wish Samsung would update the n5100 with kit kat directly with the new UI. ..
Please Samsung. . Give us the update
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There wont be any update to NOTE 8 from SAMSUNG - even 4.3 will not happen. Sad but true - NOTE 8 is sold out, hardly available on some markets already, popularitiy of N8 is weaker than original first NOTE 10,1 which also got till 4.1.2 only - and is also dead for SAMSUNG already.
You would think that Samsung would at least give us 4.3 for the smart watch integration. I thought that's why they pushed out the updates for the S3 and the Note 2.
Take matters into your own hands! CM 11 ~ Android 4.4.2
Samsung does not provide an update for Polish .. And I thought that Samsung is more concerned about the updates ..
If note 8 is obsolete. Why is there a no 8 inch note pro version?..
I think the 8.4 pro version would be the most sold of the 4 new tablets announced
I believe we should get atleast 4.3 with trim and gear support. .. More useful for the n5100 with phone capabilities than a note 3 or s4
I don't care if they don't release update for a particular country as long as you can flash another country update using Odin
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Not that any of the chit-chat in here is going to make any difference of what Samsung has already planned but imo, i guess this is the end of the line for note 8, as much as we all would like to think it isn't, even if it's way too early but oh well ... note 10.1 had 4.1.2 as the end of it's line, long dropped when it could've support all the newer android versions but it's all about marketing * forthe 2014 edition one*, so i guess we're waiting for almost a miracle to get 4.3 or jump to 4.4 according to samsung's policy, the only hope is that there isn't a newer note except that freaking large 12.2 or the bit older note 10.1 (2014) edition
i know i could easily flash any of the avaliable custom roms but touchwiz as much as most of us hate it is loaded with cool features "even if most of the time aren't used* that is missed on stock android
I got my 8.0 as a gift from the wife which is carrier based so I am on 4.1.2 and it don't seem like At&t will update any android tablets at all especially Samsung since it seems they rip apart the updates anyway and take away key features like galaxy gear support and Knox container.
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Please Samsung. . Give us the update
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I understand that wish, but the chance that we get this ****ty KNOX or Region Lock with 4.3/4.4 is very high, so no, please no update
On the news of GSMArena i read that note 8 will update to android 5 and after that possibility.
But i disappointed with samsung about updates...
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flymacs said:
You would think that Samsung would at least give us 4.3 for the smart watch integration. I thought that's why they pushed out the updates for the S3 and the Note 2.
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If they cared about Note 8 device itself, they would already launch an update together with Note 2/S3 in order to get more possible GEAR buyers. I quess for that price they were selling N8 - sold qtys were too small to keep Samsung maintaining this device at fresh state. S3/N2 sold milions so possible customer base for GEAR was much higher - therefore the rush. With the army of new 2014 tablets, if N8 will get 4.3 we could be happy - but do not expect any new software (S-NOTE ot that new UI from them). We will just get old software base same as N2 got with 4,3 update - it hasnt new Snote officially like N3, (but it is possible to run - thats another story.)
I am also going back to 4.1.2 - some quirks that they disabled in 4.2.2 update make me not more happy than lockscreen widgets - so i am reverting back also because of TabletUi. And already searching for 8" Windows 8 tablet - as soon as ASUS Note8 will be out, i might get it if there will be 3G version (but doesnt have hdmi, pity). I wont buy any other Android tablet anymore - i still need more desktop to use, 3G and JumpDesktop via RDP to my server makes Note8 perfect companion, but it will be better to run my programs natively on the go and i can ditch S-Note app to full MS ONE NOTE and full Excel layout compatibility with my customers.
If samsung didn't provide an 4.4 update for the note 8 thise will be the last samsung device i'll buy n i don't wanna hear some hardware **** compatibility i've had enough from the frist galaxy
So say goodbye to your galaxy, because we will not see any more updates past 4.2.2.
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If they cared about Note 8 device itself, they would already launch an update together with Note 2/S3 in order to get more possible GEAR buyers. I quess for that price they were selling N8 - sold qtys were too small to keep Samsung maintaining this device at fresh state. S3/N2 sold milions so possible customer base for GEAR was much higher - therefore the rush. With the army of new 2014 tablets, if N8 will get 4.3 we could be happy - but do not expect any new software (S-NOTE ot that new UI from them). We will just get old software base same as N2 got with 4,3 update - it hasnt new Snote officially like N3, (but it is possible to run - thats another story.)
I am also going back to 4.1.2 - some quirks that they disabled in 4.2.2 update make me not more happy than lockscreen widgets - so i am reverting back also because of TabletUi. And already searching for 8" Windows 8 tablet - as soon as ASUS Note8 will be out, i might get it if there will be 3G version (but doesnt have hdmi, pity). I wont buy any other Android tablet anymore - i still need more desktop to use, 3G and JumpDesktop via RDP to my server makes Note8 perfect companion, but it will be better to run my programs natively on the go and i can ditch S-Note app to full MS ONE NOTE and full Excel layout compatibility with my customers.
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Have you tried Civato's 4.2.2? Been my DD for a while now and does quite well for me. VNC works well to work laptop so connection has been smooth.
As far as Win8 goes I've been running the Dell Venue Pro 8 (64Gb on board and 64Gb uSD) for a couple months and must say Dell did this right. Odd size 8.3 screen so cases and protectors a challenge. Great screen, very snappy processor and overall a great buy. (got mine for $320) You might want to look at it.
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So say goodbye to your galaxy, because we will not see any more updates past 4.2.2.
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A big reason why I didn't care as much for the unveiled TabXPros they launched. They aren't supporting the tablet they overcharged for last spring, why should I buy another tablet from them?
And I was mulling the GPe G-Pad and the N8.4Pro, easier decision now.
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Take matters into your own hands! CM 11 ~ Android 4.4.2
Samsung does not provide an update for Polish .. And I thought that Samsung is more concerned about the updates ..
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Remember that flashing CM 11 (Android 4.4.2) you will loose several of S-Pen/Note features. I know, like myself, many bought this tablet because of S-Pen/Note features...
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Remember that flashing CM 11 (Android 4.4.2) you will loose several of S-Pen/Note features. I know, like myself, many bought this tablet because of S-Pen/Note features...
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Install GMD and some from the many good note apps (like papyrus) and you will never go back to Stock
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Install GMD and some from the many good note apps (like papyrus) and you will never go back to Stock
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what, if you watched some of CES 2014 presentations, Samsung bring with new 4.4 UI that never going to make it to CM 11. Don't take me wrong I love what CM does, but i have love and hate relationship with Samsung and its flagship UI (TouchWiz, or new UI called Magazine UI)...
In addition, there's, as far as I can see, no stable CM 11 version for Note 8, except BeanStalk 4.3's CM based ROM, but still nothing officially supported. if you check Note 8 developer section, you will see there's not a lot of development going on for our note 8 tablet.
unless some brave developer(s) jump in and port Note 3 4.3 stock ROM to our Note 8.0
@sbrissen doing a great job with Official CM, so one Developer is there @civato for a stockbased ROM, two developer are here @ryukiri make OMNI for us, in future (when this odd storage problem is fixxed) OMNI is Official.
Offcource there are more Devs, great Devs, but this Three are the popular in the Note 8 Section (since i am lurking here )
A port from the Note 3 is really, really bad ass hard work. You musst port them over from Quallcomm to Exynos, thats really hard. So don't expect this.
The only thing i missed is a Custom Kernel like civatos for CM
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@sbrissen doing a great job with Official CM, so one Developer is there @civato for a stockbased ROM, two developer are here @ryukiri make OMNI for us, in future (when this odd storage problem is fixxed) OMNI is Official.
Offcource there are more Devs, great Devs, but this Three are the popular in the Note 8 Section (since i am lurking here )
A port from the Note 3 is really, really bad ass hard work. You musst port them over from Quallcomm to Exynos, thats really hard. So don't expect this.
The only thing i missed is a Custom Kernel like civatos for CM
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I'm willing to attempt to make a custom kernel this summer when I have more free time. Right now, I'm super pressed on time due to loads of school work, tests, and stuff.
And to clarify some confusion, Omni IS official for us right now, just no nightlies yet as I'm still working on adding support in the kernel. Also, PAC 4.4 will be official when everything is ready. (We're all working to add new features and stabilizing stuff to give you guys the best possible experience).
So... do we start calling this tablet an "orphan" by Samsung? I didn't want to regret moving away from Google's "Nexus" line when I bought my TabPro 8.4, but... how long are we going to be stuck on 4.4.2?
It would be great if we got an upgrade to 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 along with some bugfixes. Since it looks like an HTC-built Nexus 8" tablet is coming soon, if by the time it comes out we're still stuck on "NG1 4.4.2" I might have to re-consider my options...
If anyone has any news on this subject it would be great to hear!
Also, out of curiosity, what version of Android is the Tab S currently at?
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So... do we start calling this tablet an "orphan" by Samsung? I didn't want to regret moving away from Google's "Nexus" line when I bought my TabPro 8.4, but... how long are we going to be stuck on 4.4.2?
It would be great if we got an upgrade to 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 along with some bugfixes. Since it looks like an HTC-built Nexus 8" tablet is coming soon, if by the time it comes out we're still stuck on "NG1 4.4.2" I might have to re-consider my options...
If anyone has any news on this subject it would be great to hear!
Also, out of curiosity, what version of Android is the Tab S currently at?
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What exactly are you missing in 4.4.3 or 4.4.4? They both are pretty minor updates. All Samsung's high-end tablets from the N10.1-14 on are on 4.4.2 so no one has something you don't. People who put a high priority on updates shouldn't buy devices with an overlay.
is any Samsung device running 4.4.3? To my understanding the Tab S and Galaxy S5 are still on 4.4.2. The cosmetic updates in 4.4.3 won't be noticed since Touchwiz covers them up anyway. I read Samsung implemented the 4.4.4 security patches in it's own separate firmware updates.
Well, the webview enhancements in 4.4.3 improve performance of any app which uses webview.
Also, pretty sure I saw quite a few mentions of various other Sammy devices getting 4.4.3 firmwares uploaded onto sammobile.com which was starting to irk me.
As long as I get android L I'm happy
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The biggest problem I have with it isn't the lack of an update, but the sluggishness of the OS. It's an octa-core processor with a 1.9gHz clock speed on four of them! Also the Wifi was better on my iPad 2 than on this brand new device!
Should've chosen something with a Quallcom processor, then I could have some decent custom ROMs...
A 4.4.4 update came out yesterday (9/10) for my T-Mobile Galaxy S4, so hopefully that mean it'll come out for the Tab Pro soon. The update does not update the UI. I'm not aware of a 4.4.4 update for other S4 and the S5. I believe T-Mobile pushed the update because it includes a new in-flight (airplane) text function/service they'll advertise next week.
Act of good faith
BarryH_GEG said:
What exactly are you missing in 4.4.3 or 4.4.4? They both are pretty minor updates. All Samsung's high-end tablets from the N10.1-14 on are on 4.4.2 so no one has something you don't. People who put a high priority on updates shouldn't buy devices with an overlay.
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The issue in my opinion is the show of support from the manufacturer, giving us the latest update is a sign of good faith whilst not doing so, esp after 7 months shows they don't really care about tab pro users.
There is NO Galaxy Tab with Android >4.4.2 - so why do you moan they don't care about Tab Pro users when there is no newer version on newer tablets (e.g. Tab S)?
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The issue in my opinion is the show of support from the manufacturer, giving us the latest update is a sign of good faith whilst not doing so, esp after 7 months shows they don't really care about tab pro users.
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Once Samsung have your money they really don't give a damn about supporting your product.
My Galaxy W (i8150) was abandoned by them within 6 months of release and never received an update from GB to ICS even though similar age and spec models by them did.
The S3 has been dumped at JB 4.3 because they can't fit all their bloatware into the KK ROM.
The TabPRO seems to be EOL after less than a year.....
It's par for the course with Sammy unfortunately - which is why we are lucky to have such an amazing amount of support from Dev's on XDA.
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Since it looks like an HTC-built Nexus 8" tablet is coming soon...
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I don't expect to be able to hold the 4:3 Nexus 8" tablet in one hand, like I do with my Tab Pro 8.4.
I also imagine it won't have an SD Card.
But the regular OS updates to seem tempting.
My hand gets tired very quickly when I try to hold the Tab Pro 8.4 in one hand, so I don't see the Nexus 8 being any different in that regard.
I'm only using 900MB of the 64GB SD Card in my Tab Pro -- 62GB free.
Reason is, there are barely any apps I can move to SD card, and even then there are side-effects like the icon won't stay on my home screen so I end up just moving them back to main memory. Also I have Google All-Access Music so I don't need to keep lots of music on my tablet. And for videos/movies, I use Netflix and PLEX so no need to keep videos locally on the tablet. So obviously, i'd be ok with a Nexus tablet without SD card slot. ( But I would still try to go for a 32GB+ )
Also, i have some minor build quality issues with my Tab Pro 8.4 -- in particular there seems to be some very minor "squeaky/creaky" noises when I touch certain areas of the touch screen or around the bezel. Not a serious issue, mind you, but in contrast both my Nexus S and Nexus 4 have zero build quality issues.
Hey, I saw on twitter today that the "T-Mobile" version of the Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014) is getting a 4.4.4 update soon!
Good news, right? Becuase it means the GTP version of that firmware update may be coming up soon afterwards. At least for the GTP 10.1" version.
Not sure about the GTP 8.4, it's pretty different from the Note 10.1 ...
I use link2sd app in the playstore great app, been using for a few years now. Native app2sd is not that great
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Just use a custom ROM and you will have a newer version. I have already lost faith in Samsung for their software.
I have a new slogan for Samsung, "It is, what it is". You could follow that with "take it or leave it" I bought my gt p 8.4 with no expectation of any updates. If I get one I will be thrilled.
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Full/Debloated - Rooted - DeOdex - T320XAR1ANG1 - (08/03/14)
I have been rockin with:
Full/Debloated - Rooted - DeOdex - T320XAR1ANG1 - (08/03/14) on my T320.
This thing runs almost as good as my Note 3 running Alliance.
I tried the Daydream ROM and it was VERY lite on system storage but it had issues with some of my gaming.
It's nice to re live the good old Game Boy Advance and N64 days on this huge high res screen...
The lack of a OTG USB controller puts my Moga Pro Power to great use.
I use my Note 3 to email the boss to let him know that I cant get to work until the ice melts.
GAME ON ANYWHERE
Is the latest always the greatest?
Not always!
Do you remember SD card disaster with 4.4.x?
Samsung has a great upgrade program. Every time a new version of Android is released, they release a new tablet running it.
But seriously, I'm not too concerned about 4.4.2 to 4.4.4. I would rather they develop a Lollipop release. Fine with me if they take a couple of months to get it right. I'll be needing it on the Tab Pro 8.4 and Note 10.1 (2014).
Hi, I know that S5 G900F(no atm)/M/S that it has released on April 2014 and it is getting Android 6.0.1 TW Official from Samsung, and I am answering me if Galaxy S4 Value Edition I9515 gets Android 6.0.1 TW official from Samsung, because it has released on end May 2014 and it has good specs to run it without a problem. It is more modern than S5 theorically, and if it gets it, it can be port to normal i9505 variant?? Because it has same specs including Snap 600 and Adreno 320.
Thankss for your attention.
Have a nice day.
I doubt Samsung will release Marshmallow TW for any of the S4 models, even if they at capable of running it.
They have a stupid 2 year update warranty policy. What it means is that, for those 2 years, the device will get updates, but once those 2 years are up, no more software updates.
The only thing Samsung will provide now will probably just security updates.
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I doubt Samsung will release Marshmallow TW for any of the S4 models, even if they at capable of running it.
They have a stupid 2 year update warranty policy. What it means is that, for those 2 years, the device will get updates, but once those 2 years are up, no more software updates.
The only thing Samsung will provide now will probably just security updates.
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Agreed, am seriously doubting that too.
Not to mention that we're seeing those ads 'upgrade to the Galaxy S6/S7 and get $250 dollars worth of accessories from our online store' on Facebook.
It also seems very stupid that they have not yet fixed the lag on the task switcher which I am sure that the S4 is capable of running smoothly even after 3 lollipop OTA updates.
Samsung unlike most OEMs always have a habit of not fully upgrading the UI of certain apps like the lockscreen, camera app, voice recorder, music or even to add a S6 themer in bid that those extra features will justify an upgrade.
Not being harsh on Samsung as other phone makers have the same 2 year update period unless if it's apple or something, but they could have at least upgraded the UI properly.
So yeah, I'd recommend the OP not to hold his or her breath.
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I really liked the size of this tablet and thought that Samsung would at least keep the software updated for a little longer than they did.
No new version, seems like they made the new version for Windows OS only.
I gave up and got a Tab S3, maybe one day Samsung will make another larger Android tablet.
Until then, my pristine Note Pro is heading for swappa.
You are going to get rid of your 'pristine Note Pro' just because the OS isn't updated? I don't get it. I can use mine for a lot of productivity apps even though it isn't being updated to the latest OS version.
You might consider installing a rom from here like Lineage and getting full Nougat, changed the entire experience, and on a par with my wife's iPad Pro now. Where there's a will, there's a way.
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You do realize Google's contracts with manufacturers only last 2 years? The only devices that are updated after two years are Pixels and Apple. The NotePro is 3 years old. The contract for the updates ended 12 months ago.
I have never understood this obsession people have with updates. What, does the device stop working when it doesn't get a new update?
I'm a massive fan of 'If it isn't broken, don't fix it.'
My NotePro is on P905XXUANC3/P905DBTANC3. March 2014, 4.4.2.
My Note 3 is still on the very stable N9005XXUENB7/N9005DBTENB2. February 2014, 4.4.2.
I have absolutely no desire to update my device at the risk of reduced battery life, bugs and issues. And before anyone goes "That doesn't happen", the Bluetooth issues with 5.0 most definitely did happen. It works perfectly, why the hell would I compromise that?
I hear this nonsense a lot. "I want to end my contract because you haven't updated yet!" "I'm never buying a Samsung again because the phone wasn't updated 4 years after it came out!" Last week someone was whining about how it was fraud that his S3 didn't get Nougat.(!) The only thing missing is stomping feet and holding breath.
People can do what they want with their own devices. I love updates, but won't whine when I don't get them. My Note Pro is running Lineage and is running like a new device. I have no issues. I also had no issues on the stock ROM and would not consider my productivity in jeopardy because I don't have the latest updates. I do agree that some are a little more emotional about such things than seems reasonable. I don't see how a devices usefulness is reduced because of the lack of updates.
I agree. Although I would like to see some security updates to protect me from the bad guys.
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You do realize Google's contracts with manufacturers only last 2 years? The only devices that are updated after two years are Pixels and Apple. The NotePro is 3 years old. The contract for the updates ended 12 months ago.
I have never understood this obsession people have with updates. What, does the device stop working when it doesn't get a new update?
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Obsession? Stop posting such nonsense. Samsung stopped issuing updates for what used to be their highend device after a year and a half. And that is really disappointing. Especially when the device was still being sold long after that.
One thing i will add is that most devices are designed to run optimally when they are released on the os of the initial release. Even further updates by the manufacturer invariably compromise the performance of the device.
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One thing i will add is that most devices are designed to run optimally when they are released on the os of the initial release. Even further updates by the manufacturer invariably compromise the performance of the device.
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Not according to my experience with Tab 2 7.0, Tab 3 8.0 and S4. I have updated them all to the latest LineageOS and they all perform better than when they were new. The reason they don't update their devices is obvious, it costs money, and they want people to buy new devices.
To me, as a junkie for custom Android versions, I find the lack of a Samsung update untroubling. Currently I'm running a version of marshmallow hacked from the Samsung tab s2 by @bonuzzz to run on this. Works a charm and runs apps such as soundcamp that make this baby seem new.
And... I note there's an android 7 just being released for the above tablet... so maybe bonuzzz or someone else will port it over for us as well.
It's a good time to own one of these babies from my point of view.
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I'm a massive fan of 'If it isn't broken, don't fix it.'
My NotePro is on P905XXUANC3/P905DBTANC3. March 2014, 4.4.2.
My Note 3 is still on the very stable N9005XXUENB7/N9005DBTENB2. February 2014, 4.4.2.
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The "don't fix it if it ain't broken" idea here is totally irrelevant. People don't want to update because it is broken but because they want the new functionalities!! NotePro is not just a random low level tablet, it's an excellent one and it should have at least been updated to Android 6.
First of all my notepro runs on stock 5.02 from samsung.. And it is still working like a charm.. The problem I have now is that I am starting to run out of storage space and 5.02 has the stupid implementation of the extended storage also being the internal storage, not the SD. So a lot of apps don't install the huge data on SD but also internal.. And Samsung comes with too much bloatware that is also only getting bigger after each update..
So after a lot of years I see myself forced now to do one out of 2 things:
1. Get root and delete a lot of samsung bs apps
2. install a totally different rom
what would you advise?
Any one of those (1. or 2.) can and will brick something that you used to use. Most likely the S-pen functions. But there are other horror stories out their about doing what you want to do and the user finding a problem later.
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You might consider installing a rom from here like Lineage and getting full Nougat, changed the entire experience
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Do they fully support the S-Pen?
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Do they fully support the S-Pen?
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Yes and no. Lineage supports S Pen, but you don't get the Touchwiz stuff such as S Note etc, but easily substituted with Squid from the Play Store, which in my opinion is better.
Some of us don't have the option of custom ROMs. I am stuck with either unrooted Lollipop or rooted KitKat. Funny how some criticize others for wanting to have current software on their expensive devices...
(2017) S-Pen Backwards Compatability
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I gave up and got a Tab S3, maybe one day Samsung will make another larger Android tablet.
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Does the (2017) S-Pen from the Tab S3 happen to work on the Note 12.2?
Thanks!
I'm convinced that now is the best time to own one of these tablets. In fact, I bought an SM-P907a last night. This is based on my ownership of a Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1(2014) for the last couple years. This has been running stock Rom, because it's an SM-P605v. So far, no one's been able to figure out how to root it or upgrade it past Android 5.1.1. Even so, Google is continuing to upgrade Google Play Services, making these Samsung devices the best product on the market bar none. They're no longer the fastest on the market, but are better featured than anything out there, including the Surface Pro, IPad Pro, and yes, even the Samsung Tab S3 (It has no connectivity capabilities, and I personally like the fact that the Galaxy Pro, and Note 10.1 have the S Pen mounted internally). The reasons I've decided to buy the Galaxy Pro amount to screen real estate for sketching, and display of my sheet music while I'm playing and singing. My advice, keep your tablet. You're not going to find anything to replace it that will really meet your expectations for some time yet. I'm planning on using the Galaxy Pro for at least a couple of years, advance giving the Note 10.1 to my wife.
If you are willing to root your Note Pro P900, there are two different roms recently posted under development that port the Samsung S2's version of Marshmallow -- complete w/ Samsung apps and touchwiz -- to this tablet.
"Yet Another Marshmallow Rom" (this is the one I am using at the moment)
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-pro-12/development/p900-marshmallow-rom-t3604194
And this one (camera doesn't work with it):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-pro-12/development/p900-touchwiz-marshmallow-t3567916
I post these here because they not only allow upgrading to Marshmallow while keeping the Samsung Touchwiz vibe, they also allow installing some apps the Pro 12.2 couldn't run otherwise. Soundcamp, and at least two art programs.
So don't give up on the Pro 12.2 yet.
Blessings.
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I bought an SM-P907a last night.
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shonkin said:
If you are willing to root your Note Pro P900, there are two different roms recently posted under development that port the Samsung S2's version of Marshmallow -- complete w/ Samsung apps and touchwiz -- to this tablet.
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He has a 907a. No ROMs.