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in theory Sony Xperia Z3 has the same sensor of Z1, Z1 Compact and Z2, but with the new lens, camera firmware and a revised hardware support Sony promises great improvements
Actually new lens are 25mm for a good wide-angle, firmware seems to work better than previous Z2 and hardware should work better in low light conditions. Now you can raise the ISO to 12800, too. Autofocus is faster
Then we could use this thread to collect our shots taken from Sony Z3..It would be great to compare photos with the other devices
I will do once I get my Z3
Let's go!
Here is some pictures
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Nice pics from West Brom
Hmm.. They seem to be OK but not excellent.. Not sure if worth changing from my m8 (sure it's better camera on z3 but not THAT much)
I think it's a tapatalk resizing problem...it isn't good to upload high quality photos
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Here is some pictures
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Please upload to flickr, photobucket, or google+
Here is some pictures from another user
All shots are taken by Superior Auto mode (and we know 8mpx Manual mode, ISO 50, exposure -0,3 and a good sun light in the sky is much better)
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B23J_aHn-BJhaDVNWjdMa252VWM&usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B23J_aHn-BJhNU9uYThUT0tnbnM&usp=sharing
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Here is some pictures from another user
All shots are taken by Superior Auto mode (and we know 8mpx Manual mode, ISO 50, exposure -0,3 and a good sun light in the sky is much better)
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B23J_aHn-BJhaDVNWjdMa252VWM&usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B23J_aHn-BJhNU9uYThUT0tnbnM&usp=sharing
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Looks good to me
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Here is some pictures from another user
All shots are taken by Superior Auto mode (and we know 8mpx Manual mode, ISO 50, exposure -0,3 and a good sun light in the sky is much better)
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B23J_aHn-BJhaDVNWjdMa252VWM&usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B23J_aHn-BJhNU9uYThUT0tnbnM&usp=sharing
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Those look superb. I need to go someplace nice to test the cam on my Z3
I don't want to start any war or anything and my z3 is already in the post waiting for me but looking at these pictures I am really not sure if I should get it. I am compering side by side to m8 pictures and I could say that 55% of the time m8 makes better pictures..
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I don't want to start any war or anything and my z3 is already in the post waiting for me but looking at these pictures I am really not sure if I should get it. I am compering side by side to m8 pictures and I could say that 55% of the time m8 makes better pictures..
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Wait and do side by side. Then zoom and crop. The results will be very revealing to you. I had the M8 for 5 months. Great phone....great build quality....great UI....very fast and the boom sound is amazing. But the camera was very disappointing. Sorry but 4MP is still 4MP even if they are Ultra pixels.
I learned since getting this phone just how irrelevant mega pixels are .Is this better then my htc one? I imagine so,I cant do a comparison as i no longer have my htc but iam pretty sure this camera is better but is it ALOT better? I would have to say no.I expected the camera to be alot better then it is personally but i saw mentioned that it may improve after a firmware update so fingers crossed because if this is supposed to be one of the best camera's on a smartphone then the competition must be lacking
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I learned since getting this phone just how irrelevant mega pixels are .Is this better then my htc one? I imagine so,I cant do a comparison as i no longer have my htc but iam pretty sure this camera is better but is it ALOT better? I would have to say no.I expected the camera to be alot better then it is personally but i saw mentioned that it may improve after a firmware update so fingers crossed because if this is supposed to be one of the best camera's on a smartphone then the competition must be lacking
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From the specs atleast the sensor size on z3 is bigger than htc one m8. So it should make a difference in low light photography
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Wait and do side by side. Then zoom and crop. The results will be very revealing to you. I had the M8 for 5 months. Great phone....great build quality....great UI....very fast and the boom sound is amazing. But the camera was very disappointing. Sorry but 4MP is still 4MP even if they are Ultra pixels.
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Yeah must agree. I have now taken some comparison shots with both of them and z3 is quite a lot better. Yet it also leaves something to improve.
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But a lot of force closes already! What's going on. And camera says can't start recording since others program already using. Well factory reset now. But doesn't look too good
CandyAndy said:
Yeah must agree. I have now taken some comparison shots with both of them and z3 is quite a lot better. Yet it also leaves something to improve.
You can check the pictures here
https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B0MUVjq_igOMZHpjODJTNkRDZmc/edit
I took these on purpose in very demanding conditions so both of them have hard times.
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But a lot of force closes already! What's going on. And camera says can't start recording since others program already using. Well factory reset now. But doesn't look too good
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The error in the camera app is because you have "Ok Google" enabled on any screen in Google now, I had this same issue and turned it off until Sony release a fix for it.
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can someone do a high iso (12800) shot?
CandyAndy said:
Yeah must agree. I have now taken some comparison shots with both of them and z3 is quite a lot better. Yet it also leaves something to improve.
You can check the pictures here
https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B0MUVjq_igOMZHpjODJTNkRDZmc/edit
I took these on purpose in very demanding conditions so both of them have hard times.
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But a lot of force closes already! What's going on. And camera says can't start recording since others program already using. Well factory reset now. But doesn't look too good
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Thanks for the comparison pictures. I own a Z2 myself and the picture quality seems very similar to the Z3's.
Maybe it's just me, but I personally preferred the M8's pictures! They looked sharper and less noise, even if it can't zoom as much as the Z3's pics
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any 800x600 pictures will look good these days.
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guybrush2099 said:
Here is some pictures from another user
All shots are taken by Superior Auto mode (and we know 8mpx Manual mode, ISO 50, exposure -0,3 and a good sun light in the sky is much better)
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B23J_aHn-BJhaDVNWjdMa252VWM&usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B23J_aHn-BJhNU9uYThUT0tnbnM&usp=sharing
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most of these are average at best.
There's no way the M8 camera is better. It is one of the lowest rated cameras of any current smartphone. Many professional tests have been conducted, check multiple websites if you don't believe me.
It's possible you either have a faulty unit, unlocked your bootloader which broke the sensor software (read about it in another thread) or Sony need to release a firmware update to fix this.
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There's no way the M8 camera is better. It is one of the lowest rated cameras of any current smartphone. Many professional tests have been conducted, check multiple websites if you don't believe me.
It's possible you either have a faulty unit, unlocked your bootloader which broke the sensor software (read about it in another thread) or Sony need to release a firmware update to fix this.
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Iam guessing a firmware update will improve things because i too am underwhelmed with the camera on this phone and i surprisingly thought the m8 pictures looked better in this thread which is kinda embarrassing for sony if you ask me! I havent played around much with the camera if iam honest but with the few pics i have taken i have found sharpness to be lacking ALOT and the flash is way too bright and ruining night time pics
No matter what I do I can't seem to get a clear picture. Everything is blurry. I can't figure out if my expectations are just too high.....I came from an LG G4 but still. How are you guys getting good pictures? I'm talking 5% of the pictures I take are passable. Maybe I have a faulty camera? Anyone else find the camera to be garbage? I've looked through the camera threads and people seem happy overall. It can't just be me.
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Moto camera app sucks...did you try a different app?
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I tried Open Camera and am using Google camera currently. And I'm no Ansel Adams but I takes lot of pictures and have always been able to figure out how to take a decent shot on every device I've owned until this one.
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Are the pictures blurry or noisy?
They're blurry. That the thing, that's new to me. Good lighting with as steady a hand as I can muster still results in a blurry shot. I'll take one now and post if I can.
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This is probably a stupid suggestion, but have you tried just wiping the lens and making sure it's clean and clear? Honestly I've had that problem before where it's been smudged without my noticing and it obviously makes every picture screwed up. I know it's not likely, but something that's worth a shot I've found! Other than that I know nothing about cameras and coming from an HTC One I know nothing of a quality photo...
No, I agree with @jiggyb21, I just bought the Moxo X and came from the Galaxy S6. The camera on the Moto seems like pure garbage to me, and I think it's because we are coming from phones with superior cameras. People who came from phones with worse cameras will obviously think the Moto X camera is great right?
I don't have the steadiest of hands, but I haven't run into a problem like what you are describing. Have you given some thought that you might have a faulty device? It uses phase detection for focus, so if every picture is blurry you may have an issue with the actual camera module.
I've tried a few camera apps, and though pics come out good, man do I really have to keep a steady hand. Move it a hair and any text blurs. Why not lean it up against something to take your handling out of equation and voice command take pic and see what comes up.
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It would be nice if you could post some samples. I'm not in love with the camera but I have consistently been able to snap photos that are good enough quickly
I don't even know if I uploaded the pics correctly and if not I'll fix it later while I'm watching the Giants beat on the Eagles. Something interesting happened while taking these pictures. I am in 100% optimal lighting conditions and these are basically the best 4 shots I could possibly get out of this camera. I asked around to the people here on the jobsite with me and everyone thought the pictures were just fine. Yes, they aren't blurry to the point of being unreadable by any means but they are quite blurry. I guess it could just be me but I would still argue it's not. Before anyone says anything about how this is just a smartphone and it's only a $400 smartphone at that and it's good enough, I know that and maybe people who haven't used a good smartphone camera don't know what they're missing. If that's the case, fine, and that's why I started this thread was to find out. My last 4 phones were Xperia ZL, Z2, Z3 and LG G4. We all know the G4 and S6, to name two, have incredible cameras and have OIS. The first 3 I named weren't and don't. They were all rated as average cameras and they don't have OIS. I have hundreds of pictures taken in similar conditions with the Sonys and they didn't suffer from blur. Like I said these 4 pictures were surprisingly good IMO. Most I take are MUCH more blurred and most of the pictures I take aren't in this perfect a light. So I'll have to post more pictures from my collection at home to really show off the bad ones.
If you zoom in a little on the pics its almost a 3D art poster kind of eye strain. Again, I'm not talking about level of detail, just the blurriness.
I think part of the pictures of blurry because of shallow depth of field due to lower aperture setting in the software algorithm. It seems the software is trying to compress too much noise. Although I have not personally used it, try the following link for the alternative camera and report back the results. Hope this works out for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/themes-apps/app-camera-galery-t3216944
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No, I agree with @jiggyb21, I just bought the Moxo X and came from the Galaxy S6. The camera on the Moto seems like pure garbage to me, and I think it's because we are coming from phones with superior cameras. People who came from phones with worse cameras will obviously think the Moto X camera is great right?
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Not really. I have a DSLR so that's my standard on PQ. In daylight, nothing should be blurry at 100% zoom on even a $200 phone. You don't need flagship to take a good photo at 1/125 second shutter speed. It's either defective camera unit or something is wrong with the setting. Just look at all the photos people have posted on this forum.
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I don't even know if I uploaded the pics correctly and if not I'll fix it later while I'm watching the Giants beat on the Eagles. Something interesting happened while taking these pictures. I am in 100% optimal lighting conditions and these are basically the best 4 shots I could possibly get out of this camera. I asked around to the people here on the jobsite with me and everyone thought the pictures were just fine. Yes, they aren't blurry to the point of being unreadable by any means but they are quite blurry. I guess it could just be me but I would still argue it's not. Before anyone says anything about how this is just a smartphone and it's only a $400 smartphone at that and it's good enough, I know that and maybe people who haven't used a good smartphone camera don't know what they're missing. If that's the case, fine, and that's why I started this thread was to find out. My last 4 phones were Xperia ZL, Z2, Z3 and LG G4. We all know the G4 and S6, to name two, have incredible cameras and have OIS. The first 3 I named weren't and don't. They were all rated as average cameras and they don't have OIS. I have hundreds of pictures taken in similar conditions with the Sonys and they didn't suffer from blur. Like I said these 4 pictures were surprisingly good IMO. Most I take are MUCH more blurred and most of the pictures I take aren't in this perfect a light. So I'll have to post more pictures from my collection at home to really show off the bad ones.
If you zoom in a little on the pics its almost a 3D art poster kind of eye strain. Again, I'm not talking about level of detail, just the blurriness.
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It's a f 2.0 lens. You gonna have blurriness around the edge of photo if you are taking it that close. It has nothing to do with OIS.
In any case, you can read the professional review of the XPE here.
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Moto-X-Style-Mobile-review-Style-and-Substance
If you're in good light, this is arguably one of the best phone cameras out there. Your pictures should be nice and crisp. Try this: take your camera outside during the day and take a few shots of the horizon or something. Then post the pictures here and we'll tell you (hopefully) if you've got a faulty unit. It sounds like your phone is not performing as mine is. I'm even satisfied with some indoor shots with this camera. I have done professional photography, so I am well-versed in cameras (color, WB, ISO, exposure, f-stop, etc.).
Even from reading reviews and comparisons from the web and tech reviewers, this camera performs with, and sometimes beats the other current flagship models out there. I happen to agree with them. From reading this thread though, maybe your camera isn't the only one with this problem.
Anyway, try to post a couple of pictures up. A link to an external host like photobucket or something like that would probably be better than uploading straight to XDA, due to compression and size limits.
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Those photos don't look that bad. What sort of blurriness are you talking about? The bokeh from taking close up pictures? Bokeh is a natural blurring effect you get from a larger aperature lens not being able to capture the entire depth of field. That's normal. The focused part of those pictures don't look blurry to me.
As an aside, any indoor shot will not be optimal lighting, unless you have a lighting kit or something to really brighten up the scene. Optimal lighting would be outside, and when the sun is not directly overhead. This is a very quick summation of optimal light, but you get the point.
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I think part of the pictures of blurry because of shallow depth of field due to lower aperture setting in the software algorithm. It seems the software is trying to compress too much noise. Although I have not personally used it, try the following link for the alternative camera and report back the results. Hope this works out for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/themes-apps/app-camera-galery-t3216944
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Wow, thanks, that camera works great, I always enjoy having the face detection feature it makes focusing on faces much faster.
Gr8man001 said:
I think part of the pictures of blurry because of shallow depth of field due to lower aperture setting in the software algorithm. It seems the software is trying to compress too much noise. Although I have not personally used it, try the following link for the alternative camera and report back the results. Hope this works out for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g/themes-apps/app-camera-galery-t3216944
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Thanks for your tip. After turning off NR in advanced setting, I tried a couple of indoor shots of some writings on my note book. Please excuse the terrible lighting and my bad handwriting, but it's very easy to tell which shot had the NR off. Yes the one with NR off has a dirtier background, but the pen strokes has much better contrast from the paper. That's probably one of the reasons why the default setting produces blurry photos.
Yea when taking photos of dogs in low light I only managed to have 1 or 2 come out bad and that was from me moving the phone. But then again I am used to shooting 50asa film freehand.
lack of optical image stabilization rearing it's ugly head.. who knows why the hell they couldn't use a sensor with it, but it's quite disappointing. but turning off nr helps a lot.. we need a dev to come in and work on a true camera mod for this phone only. I tried to get my bud xdabbeb to make a mod (as anyone who had the g2 knows his xcam mod was killer!) but he isn't planning on buying this phone. ugh.
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jonathanbailie said:
If you're in good light, this is arguably one of the best phone cameras out there. Your pictures should be nice and crisp. Try this: take your camera outside during the day and take a few shots of the horizon or something. Then post the pictures here and we'll tell you (hopefully) if you've got a faulty unit. It sounds like your phone is not performing as mine is. I'm even satisfied with some indoor shots with this camera. I have done professional photography, so I am well-versed in cameras (color, WB, ISO, exposure, f-stop, etc.).
Even from reading reviews and comparisons from the web and tech reviewers, this camera performs with, and sometimes beats the other current flagship models out there. I happen to agree with them. From reading this thread though, maybe your camera isn't the only one with this problem.
Anyway, try to post a couple of pictures up. A link to an external host like photobucket or something like that would probably be better than uploading straight to XDA, due to compression and size limits.
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Those photos don't look that bad. What sort of blurriness are you talking about? The bokeh from taking close up pictures? Bokeh is a natural blurring effect you get from a larger aperature lens not being able to capture the entire depth of field. That's normal. The focused part of those pictures don't look blurry to me.
As an aside, any indoor shot will not be optimal lighting, unless you have a lighting kit or something to really brighten up the scene. Optimal lighting would be outside, and when the sun is not directly overhead. This is a very quick summation of optimal light, but you get the point.
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Thank you and this is why I wanted feedback. I posted the pictures I did (close-up), because, to me, they were the most objectifiable shots I could take while at work. The text just isn't as clear as other shots I've taken with other phones. I called it optimal lighting because I was in a 6x6 room with three windows and a skylight on a sunny day with no direct sunlight. The lighting felt like the kind any decent camera would take advantage of. To me, that's optimal..but I understand that's a strong word and not scientific. The fact that it scores so highly in professional reviews is what has me frustrated. The only thing I can deduce is that a professional, lab environment is more controlled and repeatable than my layman's point and shoot approach. They must be using a tripod, right? This phone has everything else I want and I just want to like the camera. So believe me, I want to figure out how to enjoy the camera. I will take more shots tomorrow and post them and I hope you and others with knowledge will chime in. I just know that with the other smartphone cameras I mentioned earlier, 8 out of 10 shots were keepers and with this one it's more like 1 out of 10 and that's not jiving with everyone else. Thanks again.
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looking at the pictures, they seem just fine to me. the blurred part (glue) at the bottom of the bottle is just from it using a wide aperture. the images are not tack sharp but this is a cellphone camera and small dof. I dont see motion blur.
problem with auto cameras is that you dont know what priority it has. to use a wide aperture to get a decent shutter speed and not have to use high iso or the opposite.
for proper exposure you have to adjust and juggle the 3 parameters (iso/aperture/shutter) to get a proper image.
wish the phone had controls like the LG G4 which has aperture iso shutter WB and EC.
I'm planning to pick up a G6 this Friday to replace my G5. But I'm slowly becoming aware of the camera issues that are being posted. Is this something you think will get addressed with a software update, or should I wait a few weeks for the S8 even though I'm not a big fan of curved screens?
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What camera issues? Mine has been working great.
I've got no issues at all. I LOVE the camera. Even in auto mode it's amazing. Really really happy that they got rid of the laser focus. Photo attached is no editing just wide angle and hand held
There's a thread titled "LG G6: Is it worth buying?" where a bunch of people are talking about the bad camera quality.
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There's no camera issue, it's just not as great a camera as it should be. If you take photos in wide angle they are superb, but single lens shots are sub parts. It's digital processing is awful. Hopefully there's an update to fix.
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how's it compare to the GS7? I just pulled the trigger the other day and it's coming tomorrow. I could not find any full review articles or videos on youtube with the final software and hardware version. I wanted to see comparisons to the GS7. I finally got tired of waiting for reviews and went ahead and ordered it. Hope i made the right decision. I'm pretty picky about cameras.
I love the camera one thing I really really love is auto focus is much better than the lg g4 was. Also love that just tapping a a different spot on camera can easily adjust the exposure while maintaining a full frame focus. I'm the pictures at times from the gs7 may appear better but it also depends on what device they are being viewed on. I mean if I watch 1080 videos on my low end barely HD monitor th3 comparisons are useless. Sadly not enough pictures ever get printed. Plus wide angle for the win. Sample quick take from the beach on sunday.
ledvedder said:
There's a thread titled "LG G6: Is it worth buying?" where a bunch of people are talking about the bad camera quality.
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front camera make picture like 60$ phone so did jump to S8 cause not worth vs S8 front camera
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front camera make picture like 60$ phone so did jump to S8 cause not worth vs S8 front camera
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Reviews already show the S8 selfie camera is awful too. What's the point of auto focus if it still makes you look like a cartoon and "beautify's" everything. Side by side comparisons online with the Pixel and iphone 7 show the S8 (and samsung) is still awful for selfies.
The selfie camera is a little blurry but not that bad. For 5MP it's to be expected. Yes, it's not as versatile as the back camera setup, but I guess if you're not used to having to plan shots to get the composition you want, it can seem crap by today's standards. blurry in darker shots, but does well enough for me. Using the filters that are on by default make it worse too. (Can't guarantee that the image I attached doesn't have any filters added as I don't remember when I took the shot. I think it is slightly filtered)
I was concerned every shot with the back camera would need to be "tweaked", but I'm surprised how well it does with auto. You can modify gamma on the fly too which is nice (and necessary with more difficult shots). Keep in mind though if you're cropping to 16:9, then it will affect perceived image quality. That can affect the blurriness of the non-wide angle lens tbh since it's the lesser of the two. Both take great shots though on automatic.
The wide angle is the best one of all three.
I attached a photo taken with selfie lens. You can judge for yourself. Personally, I think it looks fine. Most shots are going to be viewed on mobile so resolution won't be as important as the back camera. I don't use selfie cam too often though, but if it's your primary camera, then yes you will be disappointed by the step down and will likely want to go for something with a higher res like S8...
This is comparison of night shots of two back lens... wide angle versus non-wide angel camera... as you can see, both have their advantages and disadvantages.
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Here are a bunch of microshots. Does it have it's weaknesses? Oh yes. Is it a bad camera. Not at all.
Pro Tip: Sometimes I notice sometimes you have to "zoom in" just a tad in order to get the autofocus to catch stuff up close but it's rare. My point and shoot does the same thing. (Also there is manual focus)
No issues at all with the cameras here. FWIW, I like them a lot better than the G4.
Just because of this thread, I had to try in near total darkness... It turned out pretty clear. I'm not disappointed at all. I came from S7 Edge, and I can say for a quick low light picture, it is a "little" better, but by no means is this camera a disappointment. But, when there's light, it's better than S7. I'm very happy with the phone.
I am having horrible camera pictures. Worse then the last few phones i've had. The panorama has double images and it's wavy. The reviews on youtube says it works good. all the pictures look like the grass and trees was painted with water colors. it's awful. I'm worried about what I"m going to do now. I can't keep my GS7 since I upgraded so there's no turning back unless i exchange my phone but for what model? I don't want a Galaxy with a curved screen so the options are limited at Verizon. I would upload some images but how do i post the images from my computer? The image button wants a url.
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I am having horrible camera pictures. Worse then the last few phones i've had. The panorama has double images and it's wavy. The reviews on youtube says it works good. all the pictures look like the grass and trees was painted with water colors. it's awful. I'm worried about what I"m going to do now. I can't keep my GS7 since I upgraded so there's no turning back unless i exchange my phone but for what model? I don't want a Galaxy with a curved screen so the options are limited at Verizon. I would upload some images but how do i post the images from my computer? The image button wants a url.
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Can you post some of your shots? So we can compare?
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Just because of this thread, I had to try in near total darkness... It turned out pretty clear. I'm not disappointed at all. I came from S7 Edge, and I can say for a quick low light picture, it is a "little" better, but by no means is this camera a disappointment. But, when there's light, it's better than S7. I'm very happy with the phone.
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Are you using auto mode and what resolution do you have it at at?
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Can you post some of your shots? So we can compare?
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At the bottom of my post I said I wanted to post some shots but I don't know how to upload them to the forum from the computer.
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echto said:
Are you using auto mode and what resolution do you have it at at?
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I tried auto mode with and without HDR. Btw there's no HDR button so I have to go in the settings every time I want to turn it on our off. Totally unacceptable. I tried manual mode too. I have it at 16:9 at the highest resolution. Is there a quality setting I missed?
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Are you using auto mode and what resolution do you have it at at?
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I have got a screen shot of my settings. It was done in auto. I used the mode/filter called "1839". Also, if you tap on the object you want it to focus on, you'll see a slider (I circled it in other screen shot) which your can use to make adjustments to make pictures clearer in low light or put your own tweak on a picture.
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At the bottom of my post I said I wanted to post some shots but I don't know how to upload them to the forum from the computer.
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I tried auto mode with and without HDR. Btw there's no HDR button so I have to go in the settings every time I want to turn it on our off. Totally unacceptable. I tried manual mode too. I have it at 16:9 at the highest resolution. Is there a quality setting I missed?
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There is an attach button under post writing form. You need to be in advanced mode to attach. The button is "Manage Attachments"
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There is an attach button under post writing form. You need to be in advanced mode to attach. The button is "Manage Attachments"
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Thanks. I knew i should have looked there. I'll take a look.
Here you can share all your best pictures taken with your new Oneplus 5T
lowlight shots aint bad out of the box :good:
Portrait Mode, unedited
From a gig last night. The camera is decent. Works if you put effort in it. This is taken with gcam. Gcam uses only the 16Mpix sensor (at least I think so.)
https://photos.app.goo.gl/evrt2pz4rYBPELw52
One of the pictures I took last night from my first attempts at astrophotography using 5T. It's difficult to do and time consuming considering its a 30 second exposure.
I haven't edited it, this is on ISO 1600 and 20" exposure.
CareDood said:
From a gig last night. The camera is decent. Works if you put effort in it. This is taken with gcam. Gcam uses only the 16Mpix sensor (at least I think so.)
https://photos.app.goo.gl/evrt2pz4rYBPELw52
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that's a superb shot
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has anyone tried using a third party app like open camera, camera fv-5, or snap camera with 100% photo quality setting?
Open camera is free and should give a good indication if photo quality is improved by reducing the jpeg compression that seems to be causing the oil color blur with the op software.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera
tmzbeme said:
that's a superb shot
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has anyone tried using a third party app like open camera, camera fv-5, or snap camera with 100% photo quality setting?
Open camera is free and should give a good indication if photo quality is improved by reducing the jpeg compression that seems to be causing the oil color blur with the op software.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera
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Thanks.
Tried opencamera also. Images came out very grainy and terrible looking. That shot above is taken with Google Cam. Probably the version which was first optimized for 820/821/835. The one with no hdr settings in the menu at all.
Okay so, what's really good with this camera? I've been seeing so many mixed reports of the camera being really good, and then the whole "oil painting" quality.
I'm waiting for my 5T in the mail, and this'll be my first OP device ever. Camera isn't super important to me, but I'd like to have something that out-preforms my current Nexus 5X.
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Okay so, what's really good with this camera? I've been seeing so many mixed reports of the camera being really good, and then the whole "oil painting" quality.
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If you don't care for the second sensor, not much in my opinion.
Lowlight is probably not bad, if you think brighter = better.
All OP5 / 5T comparisons I've seen so far showed a brighter image, but also more processing artifacts.
In my opinion their second sensor is just there to keep the portrait mode and doesn't offer much more as the lowlight capabilities
are realized through software processing. Don't see any reason why this processing shouldn't also work on the OP5's main sensor,
other than them wanting to have a selling point for the 5T.
Some samples which show the issue:
https://imgur.com/4Xa06lA
http://i.pi.gy/R8p2E.jpg
Btw, this is what their portrait mode produces outdoors in daylight: https://i.imgur.com/5x1ikOs.jpg
This is what my OP3 produces indoors with HDR+ (I stopped using the stock camera months ago because of how bad the postprocessing is):
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=OEk1SkNwQXR3VVhTaWQ5Ulc0Ti1feXZ1WmNyN2VR
There is just no competition.
The fact that most will look at their photos on their phone and that many samples online are downsampled is probably the reason many don't see this issue.
As much as I would like to upgrade to the OP5T, I am keeping my OP3 because of the camera.
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If you don't care for the second sensor, not much in my opinion.
Lowlight is probably not bad, if you think brighter = better.
All OP5 / 5T comparisons I've seen so far showed a brighter image, but also more processing artifacts.
In my opinion their second sensor is just there to keep the portrait mode and doesn't offer much more as the lowlight capabilities
are realized through software processing. Don't see any reason why this processing shouldn't also work on the OP5's main sensor,
other than them wanting to have a selling point for the 5T.
Some samples which show the issue:
https://imgur.com/4Xa06lA
http://i.pi.gy/R8p2E.jpg
Btw, this is what their portrait mode produces outdoors in daylight: https://i.imgur.com/5x1ikOs.jpg
This is what my OP3 produces indoors with HDR+ (I stopped using the stock camera months ago because of how bad the postprocessing is):
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1...?key=OEk1SkNwQXR3VVhTaWQ5Ulc0Ti1feXZ1WmNyN2VR
There is just no competition.
The fact that most will look at their photos on their phone and that many samples online are downsampled is probably the reason many don't see this issue.
As much as I would like to upgrade to the OP5T, I am keeping my OP3 because of the camera.
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I understand what you're getting at. However, your two example images from the 5T don't really demonstrate the issue you're talking about to the severity you're talking about. OnePlus's post processing isn't good and it does process detail out of the second image, but the detail loss is quite miniscule. And that aside, it's quite a good picture. The first picture was compressed due to imgur, so it wasn't really indicative. Also, since you'd probably be more knowledgeable on this topic than me, I wonder: other than the dot pattern issue at full crop, what's wrong with the GCam on the 5T? On the 5, it seems to work well.
Read my camera review here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/how-to/camera-review-unassuming-bea5t-t3712219
Well
New try
my first low light experiences:
https://imgur.com/a/qGfQi
R3b00t369 said:
my first low light experiences:
https://imgur.com/a/qGfQi
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It looks great in my eyes!
gianton said:
It looks great in my eyes!
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Yeah, I'm totally satisfied with it!
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Took this while waiting for the bus at work. Post edited in VSCO
https://imgur.com/gallery/y8AhD
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iamterence said:
Took this while waiting for the bus at work. Post edited in VSCO
https://imgur.com/gallery/y8AhD
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Clearly I'm a scrub at sharing images on Tapatalk lol. Let me know if you guys can see the picture
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Took this while waiting for the bus at work. Post edited in VSCO
https://imgur.com/gallery/y8AhD
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Clearly I'm a scrub at sharing images on Tapatalk lol. Let me know if you guys can see the picture
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You'd have to edit it, can't see the pic.
subashchandran said:
Read my camera review here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/how-to/camera-review-unassuming-bea5t-t3712219
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Nice!!
How did you get the watermark, tho?
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Nice!!
How did you get the watermark, tho?
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It's a setting/option in the stock camera app.
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the LG G7 ThinQ come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I find the auto focus to be very bad on the G7. Manually focus via focus peaking solves the issue for me.
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I find the auto focus to be very bad on the G7. Manually focus via focus peaking solves the issue for me.
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I did a couple of tests after reading your comment and my autofocus seems fine. The only issue I found was going from a distant subject to a close one with writing. It struggle to make out the letters. Turned on AI and now it gets it.
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Can someone help me out by taking a picture of a person at night, indoor lighting? If you can upload it to Google photos full resolution so that it will not be compressed. Thanks a bunch!
I'm coming from the S9+ and I'm not a fan. Low light is hitchhike like horrible in comparison. This photo isn't bad bad but it's not even close to the S9+ quality
This kind of picture I take a lot. I'm a lush.... So I need my camera to do well in this light.
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I'm coming from the S9+ and I'm not a fan. Low light is hitchhike like horrible in comparison. This photo isn't bad bad but it's not even close to the S9+ quality
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Agreed! I had the opportunity to take pictures and videos and this camera is quasi trash. Does everything ok. Does nothing really well. The AI struggles. I hope an upgrade makes the camera better. I came from an s9 plus too and this camera doesn't compare.
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I'm coming from the S9+ and I'm not a fan. Low light is hitchhike like horrible in comparison. This photo isn't bad bad but it's not even close to the S9+ quality
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Have you tried the manual mode?
I've tried manual mode and it is capable but it's still not in the same league as the S9+.
The wide angle mode is nice but it's not high quality even in full daylight.
And why no 4K60 mode?
With a 16MP sensor I figured this device would produce best images yet particularly in manual mode.
There's a lot of lag/delay when using the camera as well.
I long for the day when we have a 16MP F 1.2 camera! It will be here...eventually!
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I've tried manual mode and it is capable but it's still not in the same league as the S9+.
The wide angle mode is nice but it's not high quality even in full daylight.
And why no 4K60 mode?
With a 16MP sensor I figured this device would produce best images yet particularly in manual mode.
There's a lot of lag/delay when using the camera as well.
I long for the day when we have a 16MP F 1.2 camera! It will be here...eventually!
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I dont have lags .got update 1 day ago no lags now witch camera
No update available for unlocked users.
it would be so freaking awesome if people would actually help the community and upload some real-life photos made with their g7s, instead of complaining about this and that. my two cents, as a future buyer of the phone
sorry
Well, I contribute to the topic of the forum.
(by curiosities of fate, at the end of this article I just got the first update of the phone, which touches certain aspects of the phone, so you have to repeat tests, but for those who take it out of the box is a good reference).
Let's be clear, the photographic quality of the LG G7's automatic mode is bad, especially when approaching 100% of the size of the photo, the final finish is like a watercolor filter, little detail, and somewhat dark colors.
Let's illustrate with the following image:
(the images have been cut to 35% of the original size, I hope you can appreciate the differences. I am not a professional of the field, nor a photographer but here we go!)
This is the default image of the LG g7 in automatic mode, JPG format, the colors seem unnatural to me.
How can this be resolved? taking pictures in manual mode and in RAW format, the difference is very noticeable.
The image gains a lot in detail, but loses in color representation, does anyone know why the images are faded in RAW?, with some patience and retouched in photoshop the values of saturation and vibrance have something very similar to what I was seeing at that moment, although I understand that this is very subjective, ideally the phone would place these colors from the beginning that we selected the RAW format.
Finally, mention the differences in detail between the automatic format and the RAW format, the image on the left is in automatic JPG mode and the one on the right is in RAW, that gain in detail has a cost, the photo has a brutal weight in Size, around 30-45mb per photo.
I hope the comparison works for something and for someone, please excuse my bad English and greetings from Mexico.
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it would be so freaking awesome if people would actually help the community and upload some real-life photos made with their g7s, instead of complaining about this and that. my two cents, as a future buyer of the phone
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I think you're completely right.
These are some pics I took so far, most of them with stock camera (only the last two should have been taken with GCam). Most of them shot in auto mode and there are no post production works. I'm not a photographer at all and I don't pretend to be one, but I'm pretty satisfied with G7's cameras.
Bad resolution is due to upload, I can upload pics somewhere else if needed.
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louie_yo said:
it would be so freaking awesome if people would actually help the community and upload some real-life photos made with their g7s, instead of complaining about this and that. my two cents, as a future buyer of the phone
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don't buy this phone for the camera. it has plenty of outstanding features, but the camera isn't one of them. it's "good enough", but not up to par with other flagships.
s7, s8, s9, iphone X, mate 10 all take better pics. it does better with low light than previous LGs, but very unremarkable. the GCam port is helping a lot. once it's really up and going we will see what this hardware can do. LG just can't seem to get the software side right.
i'm not bashing it, as i knew this before i bought the phone and the camera isn't very important to me.
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I think you're completely right.
These are some pics I took so far, most of them with stock camera (only the last two should have been taken with GCam). Most of them shot in auto mode and there are no post production works. I'm not a photographer at all and I don't pretend to be one, but I'm pretty satisfied with G7's cameras.
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definitely notice a difference on those last two! they look great. colors feel true to life.
Is it possible to add the wide angle mode in the GCam?
My g6 get is a bit 'grainy' but detail and dynamic range for a 13mp is at times better than the g7 that are verry low at detail in some shots and some get to punchy that loose natural scene color. Open and switch between camera's is way faster on g6 than the g7 to. And allot of extra features 'pop out-gallery scroll left side-tracking focus etc are missing. Hope they improve fast with a update.
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G6 left was double the distance taken than g7. Clear detail
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More samples regular and wide angle how g6 do better.
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