Unlocked SM-G950U vs SM-G950F - Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers

I've been a Note2/3/4 user and had planed on the Note 7 (which didn't happen), and ended up buying the G5 last year. I'm looking to go with the S8 (or S8+) Unlocked, but not sure which version would be the better one to go with. The "U" that is the US Unlocked with the 835, or the "F" International with the Exynos?
I had heard that with last years S7 Unlocked model, that the "F" international version was better with updates, but Android Pay/Samsung Pay would not work in the US, while the "U" US model took forever to get updates and Nougat, but the Pay programs worked.
Right now, BestBuy has a 24 monthly payment promo on the S8/S8+ SM-G950U Unlocked US models, which would work out better for me, but am worried about timely updates. BHPhoto has the "F" International units, though no payment plan, but those may get faster updates, and root/custom roms, but Pay apps might not work in US.
Thanks for any help & suggestions.

You did a really great summary. Actually, right now I got this question too. Which unlocked version did you get? Any feedback?

justnewbee said:
You did a really great summary. Actually, right now I got this question too. Which unlocked version did you get? Any feedback?
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I initially got th S8+ Unlocked model G955U1 last week from Samsung's eBay page for 700+tax=$750.
But after using it for a few days, the Plus was a bit larger and heavier than I wanted. Then I saw that the Samsung.com site had both S8 models for sale and offered $200 for any (older) smartphone trade. So I ordered the S8 G950U1 and the price including tax was $450 (going to trade in my old Verizon Note 2, since they only sell for about $100...even though I wouldn't mind keeping it since I have the Note 2/3/4.)
I got the S8 in yesterday, and more please with it's size and weight than the Plus, so will be sending it back.
Samsung Pay works with both of them (being a U model) in the US. I had decided not to risk a $700+ phone without knowing for sure is Samsung Pay would work in the US on the International F models.

One of the most important things to look for is the freq/bands of supports.
Example. I have T-Mobile, the US unlocked version supports the carrier bands just fine. While the International unlocked uses all the same LTE bands for T-Mobile, but not the AWS freq for 3G. With T-Mobile refarming their Spectrum across the US you might run into an area that your phone doesn't support for 3G as a fallback or LTE if neither are available.
I went for the International version since its the most developed here on XDA and the exynos variants always get updates before the SD ones.
Still new to the Samsung community and trying to figure out everything, but wondering around the forums helps

I've had a 950F for about a month and picked up a 950 U under the new Sammy promotion. Came in yesterday and very dissapointed with the storage results. Androbench started at the same time on both and the 950F finishes the test 7-8 seconds sooner than the 950U. SR 779 for the F only 549 for the U. SW 205 for the 950F, 142 for the 950U. Only bought the U to flash it with the AT&T CSC for VOLTE. Same programs on both and ran test 3 times with reboots, same results.

FAUguy said:
I initially got th S8+ Unlocked model G955U1 last week from Samsung's eBay page for 700+tax=$750.
But after using it for a few days, the Plus was a bit larger and heavier than I wanted. Then I saw that the Samsung.com site had both S8 models for sale and offered $200 for any (older) smartphone trade. So I ordered the S8 G950U1 and the price including tax was $450 (going to trade in my old Verizon Note 2, since they only sell for about $100...even though I wouldn't mind keeping it since I have the Note 2/3/4.)
I got the S8 in yesterday, and more please with it's size and weight than the Plus, so will be sending it back.
Samsung Pay works with both of them (being a U model) in the US. I had decided not to risk a $700+ phone without knowing for sure is Samsung Pay would work in the US on the International F models.
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Samsung pay works fine in the US with the F, just use the Australian firmware.

rzracer2 said:
I've had a 950F for about a month and picked up a 950 U under the new Sammy promotion. Came in yesterday and very dissapointed with the storage results. Androbench started at the same time on both and the 950F finishes the test 7-8 seconds sooner than the 950U. SR 779 for the F only 549 for the U. SW 205 for the 950F, 142 for the 950U. Only bought the U to flash it with the AT&T CSC for VOLTE. Same programs on both and ran test 3 times with reboots, same results.
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I'm not surprised. Exynos is Samsungs Creation. Theyre gonna optimize those devices alot better then SD variants.
They each have their strong points when compared, but the exynos are more inhouse developed so Samsung can build higher quality drivers.

rzracer2 said:
I've had a 950F for about a month and picked up a 950 U under the new Sammy promotion. Came in yesterday and very dissapointed with the storage results. Androbench started at the same time on both and the 950F finishes the test 7-8 seconds sooner than the 950U. SR 779 for the F only 549 for the U. SW 205 for the 950F, 142 for the 950U. Only bought the U to flash it with the AT&T CSC for VOLTE. Same programs on both and ran test 3 times with reboots, same results.
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That difference in memory speed is because of the one on the left using UFS 2.1 and the one on the right using UFS 2.0.
When I got my Unlocked S8+ U model in last week, I ran those tests, and the read was over 700MBs, meaning it was 2.1.
Yesterday when th S8 U came in, did the same tests, and read speed was a over 500MBs, meaning UFS 2.0.
There has been discussion that most all Plus models have 2.1 memory chips, the the S8 (regardless of it being a U, F, or Carrier Model) can either have 2.0 or 2.1.
AnTuTu Benchmark had a score of 161000 with the S8+ 2.1 memory and 160000 with the S8 2.0 memory. In the real world, I've heard the difference is pretty negligible.
Would I prefer having the faster 2.1? Sure, but I'm not going to return or exchange the S8 just over that.

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Samsung pay works fine in the US with the F, just use the Australian firmware.
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I had seen that the F model can be flashed in Odin for one of the other countries, such as Australia or the UK (EE) to get Samsung Pay to work in the US.
If all things were equal (meaning the price), then I may have gone that route, but getting the S8 G950U1 for $425 before taxes was too good of a deal.

FAUguy said:
I had seen that the F model can be flashed in Odin for one of the other countries, such as Australia or the UK (EE) to get Samsung Pay to work in the US.
If all things were equal (meaning the price), then I may have gone that route, but getting the S8 G950U1 for $425 before taxes was too good of a deal.
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Agree, I paid $660 for my F but only $450 for the U with a junk trade in. Only bought the F for the option to root but I really don't see the need or at least a need that is greater than keeping KNOX un-tripped.
I'll also add that I'm showing slightly better LTE reception with the 950U on AT&T. -110 30 ASU on my desk with the F and -108, 32ASU with the U. Not much but at least better.

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Agree, I paid $660 for my F but only $450 for the U with a junk trade in. Only bought the F for the option to root but I really don't see the need or at least a need that is greater than keeping KNOX un-tripped.
I'll also add that I'm showing slightly better LTE reception with the 950U on AT&T. -110 30 ASU on my desk with the F and -108, 32ASU with the U. Not much but at least better.
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After using the S8+ last week, and now the S8, I kind of wish Samsung just had one S8 model size and split the difference for an even 6" screen.
I think that would of been ideal (for me).
Since I'm a long time Note user, I had thought about holding out for the Note 8, with dual cameras, but since it will be even taller than the S8+, that rules it out. In fact, I find my Note 4 (16:9) more manageable in one hand than the S8+.

FAUguy said:
That difference in memory speed is because of the one on the left using UFS 2.1 and the one on the right using UFS 2.0.
When I got my Unlocked S8+ U model in last week, I ran those tests, and the read was over 700MBs, meaning it was 2.1.
Yesterday when th S8 U came in, did the same tests, and read speed was a over 500MBs, meaning UFS 2.0.
There has been discussion that most all Plus models have 2.1 memory chips, the the S8 (regardless of it being a U, F, or Carrier Model) can either have 2.0 or 2.1.
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According to the previous poll thread and more importantly the discussion here, I think the conclusion was:
All exynos S8 and S8+ will be UFS2.1 with Samsung flash
All Snapdragon S8+ will be UFS2.1 with Toshiba flash
All (US?) Snapdragon S8 will be UFS2.0 with Toshiba flash
Samsung made changes to their website description about the flash chip technology after this finding.
I saw this finding quieted down very smoothly, right after the worse issue with Huawei P10's flash chips. Samsung PR?
After this was found out, Samsung made a promise that all Chinese Mainland and Hongkong versions (both S8 and S8+) will be UFS2.1 despite using SD835.

It depends on what you're looking for. Samsung pay does work on the F variant, I'm using it as we speak. The F also has the ability to root for custom roms and has UFS 2.1

Does anyone know if Samsung's built in caller ID works on the F model?

Related

Preordering Edge

I can't seem to find anywhere to pre-order the note edge. I want a contract-free unlocked phone.
ozaghloul said:
I can't seem to find anywhere to pre-order the note edge. I want a contract-free unlocked phone.
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I did it at www.clove.co.uk .
I don't know in wich country you are living in but ask them about the region lock thing, they should be able to unlock it for you if this is the case.
Cheers~
How much are they charging? Or is it just a waiting list. I emailed them asking about dates, prices, and lock. Will update when I get a reply.
Any other shops out there?
541,67 pounds (~886 US dollars ) excluding taxes and shipping.
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i did a google, news.com/au reporting Note Edge be release on Nov 5 2014.
netnerd said:
i did a google, news.com/au reporting Note Edge be release on Nov 5 2014.
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I hope it is that soon.
I live in the US. I know that the Note 4 will be coming out in October of this year.
Then they said the note edge will be released before the end of this year. I did read somewhere that the Canada release was going to be the bring of 2015 and it would be after the US launch.
either way I am getting this phone ASAP.
Just pre ordered the black version of Edge from Clove in UK. Hope Samsung releases the phone soon.
Preordering in Romania
Hi there!
In Romania you can preorder the 64 gb version on quickmobile.ro at a price of about 1.000 euros!!!!
A bit too much if you ask me! (taxes included).
Lol isn't that too much must be an error
I saw this ebay ad for a Galaxy Note Edge pre-order for £559 with est delivery for 28 October to 4t Nov.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171485130761?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&fromMakeTrack=true
Seems a bit doggy - title was misleading, it says Galaxy Note 4 Edge. So I asked the following questions:
1. Can you confirm it's the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 or the Galaxy Note Edge you're selling? It's confusing because the title says Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Edge.
2. Is this UK or International version?
3. Are you selling the 32GB or 64GB model?
4. Since this is a pre order, what are your policy on cancellation?
Got this reply back:
Hi
Follow the below link ..
www.samsung.com/uk/GalaxyNote4
2GB RAM+16GB ROM
Product is full uk spec version.
1 year warranty
Aiden
Now I am convinced its doggy!
But aren't the international versions lacking the proper LTE bands? I really don't want to spend that much $ and not get LTE!
anybody tried yatango? it says here in the article they have it omg
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/568840/20141008/yatango-galaxy-note-4-edge-specifications-price.htm
Yatango.com.au seems that is shipping only in Australia
Hi guys,
I am considering buying this from Japan via internet, I wanted to know the following:
If Samsung releases updates firmware, will I be able to update the phone?
Is there anything else I need to watch out for?
Many thanks in advance.
how much are they selling in japan and doesnt the back cover come with those branded japanese telecom companies?
avenging said:
how much are they selling in japan and doesnt the back cover come with those branded japanese telecom companies?
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I saw them on ebay for $999.
And yes they will have the branding on the battery back.
And some wont have the LTE since the US uses a different brand for it.
Its best to just wait till he hits your area and buy it then.
xile6 said:
I saw them on ebay for $999.
And yes they will have the branding on the battery back.
And some wont have the LTE since the US uses a different brand for it.
Its best to just wait till he hits your area and buy it then.
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Yep, its the one on ebay. I asked seller some questions about it working in UK, they replied back saying it won't work on all carriers. I will probably have to give up on that one.
The problem is no one has even the faints of idea when it would come to UK. I don't want to wait for months. Might force myself to buy the Note 4.
invisiblesense said:
Yep, its the one on ebay. I asked seller some questions about it working in UK, they replied back saying it won't work on all carriers. I will probably have to give up on that one.
The problem is no one has even the faints of idea when it would come to UK. I don't want to wait for months. Might force myself to buy the Note 4.
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Waiting is better then giving in for something you don't want or spending money on something that might not work for you.
When they had talk about the note 4 I wasn't to much in to it.
I had an s2 for a very long time. Everybody ask when I was going to upgrade to the s3. But i didnt want it since it wasn't that big of a difference. Then the htc one m7 came out so I got that since it was a bigger upgrade for me.
then I got the note 3 from there.
And I know how samsung does things and knew it wouldn't be a big leap. From my note 3 to the note 4.
But then I hear about the edge and I've been waiting that phone since they show the tech demo last year.
So Yea wait for what you really want. Or you could rock the note 4 and sell it when the edge is released in your area.
or you can blow a hole in your wallet and buy both haha
xile6 said:
Waiting is better then giving in for something you don't want or spending money on something that might not work for you.
When they had talk about the note 4 I wasn't to much in to it.
I had an s2 for a very long time. Everybody ask when I was going to upgrade to the s3. But i didnt want it since it wasn't that big of a difference. Then the htc one m7 came out so I got that since it was a bigger upgrade for me.
then I got the note 3 from there.
And I know how samsung does things and knew it wouldn't be a big leap. From my note 3 to the note 4.
But then I hear about the edge and I've been waiting that phone since they show the tech demo last year.
So Yea wait for what you really want. Or you could rock the note 4 and sell it when the edge is released in your area.
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avenging said:
or you can blow a hole in your wallet and buy both haha
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Thanks for you advice. I agree with what you're saying, I know I'll never be entirely happy and will always be looking out for the Edge. But not knowing when, if ever it will come to my country is the problem.
Avenging,
Wish I could buy both but that won't happen.
I think I'll get N4 now and sell it off as soon as the Edge becomes available.

The best place to buy Note 4 in Canada?

Was looking for the international version because apparently the snapdragon chip is not as powerful.
Any Northerners on here that can give me some advice on where to get the Note 4 unlocked off contract, and preferably international ver.
700-800 is a lot so just researching as much as i can.
tb5... said:
Was looking for the international version because apparently the snapdragon chip is not as powerful.
Any Northerners on here that can give me some advice on where to get the Note 4 unlocked off contract, and preferably international ver.
700-800 is a lot so just researching as much as i can.
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No idea. I got my note 4 through Bell for $250 on
2year contract. Snapdragon is very powerful. Even on power saver it is very fast.
Look for deals if you can. I got mine at BestBuy for $75 with a new 2 year through Bell during Black Friday.
I was able to talk the Cell Shop manager into the best deal considering I would sign a brand new contract replacing my old 3-yr Promo one
tb5... said:
Was looking for the international version because apparently the snapdragon chip is not as powerful.
Any Northerners on here that can give me some advice on where to get the Note 4 unlocked off contract, and preferably international ver.
700-800 is a lot so just researching as much as i can.
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That is not true about benchmarks, it depends what your looking for. Snapdragon is for Graphics and Exynos for raw computation power.
In terms of battery they are both pretty bad, but I heard the Snapdragon also takes this by a slight margin.
Try Pacific Mall if you Live in Toronto, just watch out! Many companies (private) are pulling insurance fraud by selling you devices then claiming them stolen...you can wake up with your phone blacklisted.
IMO unless you do Ebay or Amazon (which will prob be expensive), I wouldn't think it's worth going out of your way for the Octo core. The difference aren't enough to justify the change.
THS1989 said:
No idea. I got my note 4 through Bell for $250 on
2year contract. Snapdragon is very powerful. Even on power saver it is very fast.
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ktnxhenry said:
Look for deals if you can. I got mine at BestBuy for $75 with a new 2 year through Bell during Black Friday.
I was able to talk the Cell Shop manager into the best deal considering I would sign a brand new contract replacing my old 3-yr Promo one
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L1qu1d said:
That is not true about benchmarks, it depends what your looking for. Snapdragon is for Graphics and Exynos for raw computation power.
In terms of battery they are both pretty bad, but I heard the Snapdragon also takes this by a slight margin.
Try Pacific Mall if you Live in Toronto, just watch out! Many companies (private) are pulling insurance fraud by selling you devices then claiming them stolen...you can wake up with your phone blacklisted.
IMO unless you do Ebay or Amazon (which will prob be expensive), I wouldn't think it's worth going out of your way for the Octo core. The difference aren't enough to justify the change.
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Thanks for the responses.
What are your thoughts on the 64 bit as another pro, for the exynos octo core chip?
i understand that 64 bit makes it possible to use 4+ gb Ram, the note has 3.
so are there any other benefits to 64 octo over 32 snapdragon?
as far as pacific mall i don't really like buying phones from them anymore.
I am checking kijijii as i type.:fingers-crossed:
tb5... said:
Thanks for the responses.
What are your thoughts on the 64 bit as another pro, for the exynos octo core chip?
i understand that 64 bit makes it possible to use 4+ gb Ram, the note has 3 and isn't upgradable.
so are there any other benefits to 64 octo over 32 snapdragon?
as far as pacific mall i don't really like buying phones from them anymore.
I am checking kijijii as i type.:fingers-crossed:
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Ram is fixed at 3 GB for all note 4s. Also most apps are programmed in 32 bit arch and there are still even PC applications that are simply programmed in 32 bit environment (actually Many many programs to be more precise...and even those that are 64 bit compatible but don't take any advantages of the new system).
Seeing as 64 bit will depend on both ram being above 3.25 GB and programmers actually programming apps that will take advantage of the new bit count, it is too early to proudly adopt the 64 bit arch expecting to future proof yourself.
I have a Nexus 9, which is a 64 bit CPU. By the time 64 bit makes it into it's baby steps even my nexus 9 will most likely be irrelevant in terms of other products on the market.
For now, 64 bit is a marketing gimmick and just a first crawl of technology going in the right direction. Don't get me wrong I'm not against it, and frankly encourage people to purchase into it, but don't expect to get the "performance" or "use" of 64 bit atm.
You are simply "funding" future projects
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Kijiji is even worse. At least pacific mall has a location (not that it makes much more of a difference) but your not carrying around 800$ cash to a random location. At least in Pacific mall there is security and is a place to shop.
i got my 910U from taiwan using ebay. $900 and well worth the extra ponies over the canadian models. using it on rogers.
I bought mine from Craigslist for $420.... Its amazing if you're patient the deals youll find. All you have to do is be able to barter, know what you're looking for and take precautions when buying used- Meet them at phones carrier, have it transferred over to you, meet them at their house and test it out or ask for their ID. Id definetly reccomend craigslist if you dont mind a used one
at $420 youre getting a fake for sure. no one is going to sell a real phone at hundreds off the cost price. a fake phone costs $160 with shipping at retail.
have you run refurbishment check on it using samsung phone info app from the app store ? have you asked the carriers if your phone is on contract/stolen or blacklisted ?
you can find it online and in Canada
Omega Cell in Edmonton carries these . i have purchased other phones, it is a good place to shop for unlocked and unique phone hardware
http://www.omegacell.com/products/samsung-galaxy-note-4-n910u-exynos-octocore
i am not affiliated with these guys at all, just a past and possibly future return customer.'

Note FE International Version?

Are we likely to see this? Anyone have any insight to this?
I have the K version but would dearly love to flash a standard International ROM on it.
Launch of the N8 is getting closer and I'm starting to think Sammy are just going to stick with the Korean variants they've launched so far and that's it.
Maybe the FE was too popular in Korea? Maybe Sammy have realized that it would actually steal too much of the N8's thunder if they do an FE International release now?
MM
MrMiyagi said:
Are we likely to see this? Anyone have any insight to this?
I have the K version but would dearly love to flash a standard International ROM on it.
Launch of the N8 is getting closer and I'm starting to think Sammy are just going to stick with the Korean variants they've launched so far and that's it.
Maybe the FE was too popular in Korea? Maybe Sammy have realized that it would actually steal too much of the N8's thunder if they do an FE International release now?
MM
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This isn't proof positive,but,keeps the possibility open,lest we hear otherwise directly from Samsung:
Samsung Galaxy Note FE (Dual SIM) will soon be launched outside South Korea, Wi-Fi Alliance listing confirms
http://www.nashvillechatterclass.co...-korea-wi-fi-alliance-listing-confirms/33864/
KOLIOSIS said:
This isn't proof positive,but,keeps the possibility open,lest we hear otherwise directly from Samsung:
Samsung Galaxy Note FE (Dual SIM) will soon be launched outside South Korea, Wi-Fi Alliance listing confirms
http://www.nashvillechatterclass.co...-korea-wi-fi-alliance-listing-confirms/33864/
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Thanks for that -- gives me hope.
Actually, a dual SIM version would be great. Might be tempted to sell my K and get that (I travel a lot) *IF* it was true dual SIM i.e. I don't have to choose between a second SIM or the Micro SD Card!
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....................... Might be tempted to sell my K and get that ..............................!
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I've already sold my K Note FE,I'll be back whether the DualSIM becomes a reality or not,I'll give it until about October.
This time,outside of a carrier-free model,I'll get the SK Note FE.
I think it could be launched by the end this month. N935F can found on wi-fi.org.
Anybody know if Samsung Pay on other flagship international models could be used with US cards? Man, I really needed a new cell phone for the eclipse (using a Note 1 right now) and my coral blue is coming in tomorrow. I'm hoping I can sell it if Samsung Pay finally works.
EDIT: I do find it strange that they're waiting so long if this is really going to happen. With the Note 8 coming out soon, I can't see that being a good move. Either the FE stays under the shadow of the Note 8 (wasted effort), or it starts eating into Note 8 sales.
Recall how Samsung did not release the Note 5 in some markets and only had the S6 Edge+?
Maybe they will repeat that pattern with the N8 and FE?

Snapdragon 855 vs Exynos 9820?

Hi guys.
I will be in the US at march 8th and i'm planning to get the s10+.
My plan is to get it in a physical store and I want to be shure that my phone comes with the snapdragon CPU.
Does the stores in the US only sells the snapdragon version or there is a possibility that the phone comes with the Exynos?
I was told that only the carriers locked phones comes with the snapdragon, is that true?
*will use the phone in Brazil
Thank you!
No US stores will sell an Exynos phone. You should almost certainly receive a SD version
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otvmartins said:
Hi guys.
I will be in the US at march 8th and i'm planning to get the s10+.
My plan is to get it in a physical store and I want to be shure that my phone comes with the snapdragon CPU.
Does the stores in the US only sells the snapdragon version or there is a possibility that the phone comes with the Exynos?
I was told that only the carriers locked phones comes with the snapdragon, is that true?
*will use the phone in Brazil
Thank you!
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Any handset bought in the US will be Snapdragon - not Exynos, whether it's bought from a carrier, reseller, or whatever. Unlocked US versions are also Snapdragon only.
Thank you for the answer.
I ask this because i bought my s8+ at BH in NYC and it came with the exynos.
otvmartins said:
Thank you for the answer.
I ask this because i bought my s8+ at BH in NYC and it came with the exynos.
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When it comes to buying in the US, your best bet would be to buy online. There are multiple sellers online within the US that sell the Exynos version. They're usually very tech illiterate though, so asking them if it's the "G955F", for example, would be worthless.
otvmartins said:
Thank you for the answer.
I ask this because i bought my s8+ at BH in NYC and it came with the exynos.
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B&h is pretty much the only store front that sells exynos, everywhere else though will be snapdragon, Best buy is a good store if you want to walk in and buy an unlocked snapdragon s10
I'm sure the following applies:
Snapdragon if you don't care about unlockable bootloader, root, et al.
Exynos if you want to customize via TWRP.
I have Exynos S9+ and Note9. The S9+ is rooted and I never got around to rooting the Note9.
I preordered a S10+ 128GB black unlocked from BB which should be delivered to my desk by Friday at lunch.
I'm a camera junkie and honestly curious about the camera.
I'm happy TBH the way the Note9 camera captures video and audio. Seems with that generation all the issues with audio overloading have been addressed. (recording live music on stage)
cpufrost said:
I'm sure the following applies:
Snapdragon if you don't care about unlockable bootloader, root, et al.
Exynos if you want to customize via TWRP.
I have Exynos S9+ and Note9. The S9+ is rooted and I never got around to rooting the Note9.
I preordered a S10+ 128GB black unlocked from BB which should be delivered to my desk by Friday at lunch.
I'm a camera junkie and honestly curious about the camera.
I'm happy TBH the way the Note9 camera captures video and audio. Seems with that generation all the issues with audio overloading have been addressed. (recording live music on stage)
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Didn't the Snapdragon versions also use Sony sensors vs Samsung ones in the Exynos?
I know it was confirmed, shame nobody got in depth with it either way I hope they stop depending on third parties for most of their components.
Pure+ said:
No US stores will sell an Exynos phone. You should almost certainly receive a SD version
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Not entirely true. Some rent to own places sell exynos. Rent-A-Center being one of them.
Corv0 said:
Didn't the Snapdragon versions also use Sony sensors vs Samsung ones in the Exynos?
I know it was confirmed, shame nobody got in depth with it either way I hope they stop depending on third parties for most of their components.
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Yeah I forgot to mention this. Differences were subtle though.
IMO the easiest way to get the Exynos versions is to buy off ebay. I've had good luck with two sellers. Prompt shipping and exactly as described. Some folks complain about the non USA plug and sellers are throwing in an adapter as well to accommodate. But come on, I mean we're phone geeks here, right? Most of us already have at least 100 USB chargers lying around.
You also save $60 or so by not paying sales tax.
Preordered my S10+ from samsung site so would that be SD?
Yea got dinged with that $66 tax!
Onyok said:
Preordered my S10+ from samsung site so would that be SD?
Yea got dinged with that $66 tax!
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Yes...
cpufrost said:
I'm sure the following applies:
Snapdragon if you don't care about unlockable bootloader, root, et al.
Exynos if you want to customize via TWRP.
I have Exynos S9+ and Note9. The S9+ is rooted and I never got around to rooting the Note9.
I preordered a S10+ 128GB black unlocked from BB which should be delivered to my desk by Friday at lunch.
I'm a camera junkie and honestly curious about the camera.
I'm happy TBH the way the Note9 camera captures video and audio. Seems with that generation all the issues with audio overloading have been addressed. (recording live music on stage)
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Looks like the s9/s9+ Snapdragon variant just got TWRP. https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...ly-available-for-the-snapdragon-galaxy-s9-s9/
The s10/s10+ Snapdragon variant wont be rootable for sure? How come?
ultimatdan said:
Looks like the s9/s9+ Snapdragon variant just got TWRP. https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...ly-available-for-the-snapdragon-galaxy-s9-s9/
The s10/s10+ Snapdragon variant wont be rootable for sure? How come?
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Not for american version, only south america/china , they have unlocked bootloader
Onyok said:
Preordered my S10+ from samsung site so would that be SD?
Yea got dinged with that $66 tax!
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I ordered from Best Buy just because they guaranteed a Friday delivery, and Samsung was saying that it would be the 22nd.
I saved $25 by going with shipping, because I live out in the country, and there is less sales tax.
sireniankyle said:
I ordered from Best Buy just because they guaranteed a Friday delivery, and Samsung was saying that it would be the 22nd.
I saved $25 by going with shipping, because I live out in the country, and there is less sales tax.
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Nice! 'Gratz! Mine would be here by weekend, lol!
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Looks like the s9/s9+ Snapdragon variant just got TWRP. https://www.androidpolice.com/2019/...ly-available-for-the-snapdragon-galaxy-s9-s9/
The s10/s10+ Snapdragon variant wont be rootable for sure? How come?
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Lol. So glad i got the Exynos version!
stanley08 said:
Lol. So glad i got the Exynos version!
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Can that be used on Verizon? I heard the battery life was better on the Snapdragon version though.
ultimatdan said:
Can that be used on Verizon? I heard the battery life was better on the Snapdragon version though.
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Will the difference be noticeable? I'm asking cause i'm from Asian country and will surely be getting an exynos version.
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Can that be used on Verizon? I heard the battery life was better on the Snapdragon version though.
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If verizon is still 100% CDMA then no, the exynos only works on GSM.
Last year the snap was better on battery then exynos but every year previously it was the other way around. That said i have no problem getting 6hrs SOT on my exynos note 9
The snapdragons have always had better GPUs as well

??? Model # for S10+ dual SIM - 1 TB, 12 GB RAM or 512 GB, 8 GB RAM version

Any idea what is the model number for Galaxy S10+ dual SIM - 1 TB, 12 GB RAM or 512 GB, 8 GB RAM version?
Also, a good place to order online? Canadian and USA websites have no dual SIM models on the offer and the only thing I was able to find is anemic 128 GB, 8 GB RAM version (SM-G9750) from never-msrp.
Samsung.com
Model number is shown in small writing half way down the page
UK model numbers :
White
512 = SM-G975FCWGBTU
1TB = SM-G975FCWHBTU
Black
512 = SM-G975FCKGBTU
1TB =SM-G975FCKHBTU
bomp306 said:
Samsung.com
Model number is shown in small writing half way down the page
UK model numbers :
White
512 = SM-G975FCWGBTU
1TB = SM-G975FCWHBTU
Black
512 = SM-G975FCKGBTU
1TB =SM-G975FCKHBTU
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Thx, good find. Now I just need to find the place that will ship to Canada.
I've found this website that appears to list all the models if anyone is interested:
https://www.techwalls.com/samsung-galaxy-s10-plus-model-number-sm-g975-differences/
czguy said:
Any idea what is the model number for Galaxy S10+ dual SIM - 1 TB, 12 GB RAM or 512 GB, 8 GB RAM version?
Also, a good place to order online? Canadian and USA websites have no dual SIM models on the offer and the only thing I was able to find is anemic 128 GB, 8 GB RAM version (SM-G9750) from never-msrp.
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Never-msrp offers the 512GB variant.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...im-FACTORY-UNLOCKED-6-4-8GB-RAM-/223437883429
Also the 1TB variant.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...hash=item2ce7040cc2:m:msEpSV4ubm7yrAshc4bPz2Q
They ship world wide however I've had issues with Canadian Customs when shipping electronics from the USA.
varcor said:
Never-msrp offers the 512GB variant.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...im-FACTORY-UNLOCKED-6-4-8GB-RAM-/223437883429
Also the 1TB variant.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Ga...hash=item2ce7040cc2:m:msEpSV4ubm7yrAshc4bPz2Q
They ship world wide however I've had issues with Canadian Customs when shipping electronics from the USA.
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Yes, I've seen those on the offer and was about to place my order, however, I've noticed that they offer Snapdragon variant. I'm looking for Exynos in order to root the device.
BTW, I've previously purchased 3 phones from the same company and shipping was very fast. Interestingly, if I buy from any other country, customs won't bother me much, however, when the product comes from the USA, customs will always slap me with a hefty fee.
czguy said:
Yes, I've seen those on the offer and was about to place my order, however, I've noticed that they offer Snapdragon variant. I'm looking for Exynos in order to root the device.
BTW, I've previously purchased 3 phones from the same company and shipping was very fast. Interestingly, if I buy from any other country, customs won't bother me much, however, when the product comes from the USA, customs will always slap me with a hefty fee.
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Both of those devices have unlocked bootloader.
varcor said:
Both of those devices have unlocked bootloader.
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I don't have much experience with Samsung devices, however, while reading different articles, it seems that Snapdragon versions are difficult to root and everyone recommends Exynos if you intend to root your phone.
https://www.xda-developers.com/exynos-samsung-galaxy-s10-rooted-magisk/
I bought mine from pdaplaza.ca. It's a 512GB model. SM-G9750. Price was pretty good, and I'm really happy with my purchase. Bootloader is unlocked. I unlocked it successfully today. I detailed how in this post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79203224&postcount=153
czguy said:
I don't have much experience with Samsung devices, however, while reading different articles, it seems that Snapdragon versions are difficult to root and everyone recommends Exynos if you intend to root your phone.
https://www.xda-developers.com/exynos-samsung-galaxy-s10-rooted-magisk/
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They're not more difficult to root however Exynos variants typically have more custom ROM's than Snapdragon variants. This may not be the case going forward. The Exynos 9810 in the S9 had a higher incidence for overheating and lower battery life than the Snapdragon 845 chipset. Even now we're seeing Exynos S10 users reporting higher battery drain and overheating. This is due to the chipset's architecture which is setup for faster Single Core processing. The Snapdragon 855 in the S10 is a more versatile and balanced chipset which now exceeds Exynos in most benchmark comparisons. From everything I've read, I would be wary of the Exynos variants until such time they have overcome the deficiencies.
varcor said:
They're not more difficult to root however Exynos variants typically have more custom ROM's than Snapdragon variants. This may not be the case going forward. The Exynos 9810 in the S9 had a higher incidence for overheating and lower battery life than the Snapdragon 845 chipset. Even now we're seeing Exynos S10 users reporting higher battery drain and overheating. This is due to the chipset's architecture which is setup for faster Single Core processing. The Snapdragon 855 in the S10 is a more versatile and balanced chipset which now exceeds Exynos in most benchmark comparisons. From everything I've read, I would be wary of the Exynos variants until such time they have overcome the deficiencies.
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I went with Exynos version anyway. I've just placed an order on this one:
https://www.ebay.ca/itm/202631751460

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