The best place to buy Note 4 in Canada? - Galaxy Note 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Was looking for the international version because apparently the snapdragon chip is not as powerful.
Any Northerners on here that can give me some advice on where to get the Note 4 unlocked off contract, and preferably international ver.
700-800 is a lot so just researching as much as i can.

tb5... said:
Was looking for the international version because apparently the snapdragon chip is not as powerful.
Any Northerners on here that can give me some advice on where to get the Note 4 unlocked off contract, and preferably international ver.
700-800 is a lot so just researching as much as i can.
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No idea. I got my note 4 through Bell for $250 on
2year contract. Snapdragon is very powerful. Even on power saver it is very fast.

Look for deals if you can. I got mine at BestBuy for $75 with a new 2 year through Bell during Black Friday.
I was able to talk the Cell Shop manager into the best deal considering I would sign a brand new contract replacing my old 3-yr Promo one

tb5... said:
Was looking for the international version because apparently the snapdragon chip is not as powerful.
Any Northerners on here that can give me some advice on where to get the Note 4 unlocked off contract, and preferably international ver.
700-800 is a lot so just researching as much as i can.
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That is not true about benchmarks, it depends what your looking for. Snapdragon is for Graphics and Exynos for raw computation power.
In terms of battery they are both pretty bad, but I heard the Snapdragon also takes this by a slight margin.
Try Pacific Mall if you Live in Toronto, just watch out! Many companies (private) are pulling insurance fraud by selling you devices then claiming them stolen...you can wake up with your phone blacklisted.
IMO unless you do Ebay or Amazon (which will prob be expensive), I wouldn't think it's worth going out of your way for the Octo core. The difference aren't enough to justify the change.

THS1989 said:
No idea. I got my note 4 through Bell for $250 on
2year contract. Snapdragon is very powerful. Even on power saver it is very fast.
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ktnxhenry said:
Look for deals if you can. I got mine at BestBuy for $75 with a new 2 year through Bell during Black Friday.
I was able to talk the Cell Shop manager into the best deal considering I would sign a brand new contract replacing my old 3-yr Promo one
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That is not true about benchmarks, it depends what your looking for. Snapdragon is for Graphics and Exynos for raw computation power.
In terms of battery they are both pretty bad, but I heard the Snapdragon also takes this by a slight margin.
Try Pacific Mall if you Live in Toronto, just watch out! Many companies (private) are pulling insurance fraud by selling you devices then claiming them stolen...you can wake up with your phone blacklisted.
IMO unless you do Ebay or Amazon (which will prob be expensive), I wouldn't think it's worth going out of your way for the Octo core. The difference aren't enough to justify the change.
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Thanks for the responses.
What are your thoughts on the 64 bit as another pro, for the exynos octo core chip?
i understand that 64 bit makes it possible to use 4+ gb Ram, the note has 3.
so are there any other benefits to 64 octo over 32 snapdragon?
as far as pacific mall i don't really like buying phones from them anymore.
I am checking kijijii as i type.:fingers-crossed:

tb5... said:
Thanks for the responses.
What are your thoughts on the 64 bit as another pro, for the exynos octo core chip?
i understand that 64 bit makes it possible to use 4+ gb Ram, the note has 3 and isn't upgradable.
so are there any other benefits to 64 octo over 32 snapdragon?
as far as pacific mall i don't really like buying phones from them anymore.
I am checking kijijii as i type.:fingers-crossed:
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Ram is fixed at 3 GB for all note 4s. Also most apps are programmed in 32 bit arch and there are still even PC applications that are simply programmed in 32 bit environment (actually Many many programs to be more precise...and even those that are 64 bit compatible but don't take any advantages of the new system).
Seeing as 64 bit will depend on both ram being above 3.25 GB and programmers actually programming apps that will take advantage of the new bit count, it is too early to proudly adopt the 64 bit arch expecting to future proof yourself.
I have a Nexus 9, which is a 64 bit CPU. By the time 64 bit makes it into it's baby steps even my nexus 9 will most likely be irrelevant in terms of other products on the market.
For now, 64 bit is a marketing gimmick and just a first crawl of technology going in the right direction. Don't get me wrong I'm not against it, and frankly encourage people to purchase into it, but don't expect to get the "performance" or "use" of 64 bit atm.
You are simply "funding" future projects
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Kijiji is even worse. At least pacific mall has a location (not that it makes much more of a difference) but your not carrying around 800$ cash to a random location. At least in Pacific mall there is security and is a place to shop.

i got my 910U from taiwan using ebay. $900 and well worth the extra ponies over the canadian models. using it on rogers.

I bought mine from Craigslist for $420.... Its amazing if you're patient the deals youll find. All you have to do is be able to barter, know what you're looking for and take precautions when buying used- Meet them at phones carrier, have it transferred over to you, meet them at their house and test it out or ask for their ID. Id definetly reccomend craigslist if you dont mind a used one

at $420 youre getting a fake for sure. no one is going to sell a real phone at hundreds off the cost price. a fake phone costs $160 with shipping at retail.
have you run refurbishment check on it using samsung phone info app from the app store ? have you asked the carriers if your phone is on contract/stolen or blacklisted ?

you can find it online and in Canada
Omega Cell in Edmonton carries these . i have purchased other phones, it is a good place to shop for unlocked and unique phone hardware
http://www.omegacell.com/products/samsung-galaxy-note-4-n910u-exynos-octocore
i am not affiliated with these guys at all, just a past and possibly future return customer.'

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GT-N5100 Note 8.0 3G

Does anyone know when the 3G version will be released? I have read in many reviews that battery life on the WiFi is not that impressive, do you think Samsung would ship the 3G version with a larger battery?
in Malaysia the Note 8 is launched with the 3G version already, on Friday.
all specs remain the same throughout
Shame it could have done with a bigger battery by all accounts. I'll still get one, (im)patiently waiting for a 3G version, any colour, any storage size in the UK.
I have been using Galaxy note 8 n5100 as my main phone since i bought it last april 13 here in the Philippines, the battery is pretty good it can last 10 to 12hour, with moderate calls and always connected data, autosync on moderate browsing and email with minimal gps use, the battery on this phone is way better than galaxy tab 7 plus which it replaced as my primary phone
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genius24k said:
I have been using Galaxy note 8 n5100 as my main phone since i bought 7t past april 13 here in Philippines, the battery is pretty it can last 10 to 12hour, with moderate calls and always connected data, autosync on moderate browsing and email with minimal gps use, battery is way better than galaxy tab 7 plus which it replaced as my primary phone
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Thanks for your mini review! Waiting for it to launch in India.
How much did it cost you (in USD)? Are any freebies like PlayStore credit or Dropbox available as well?
agambhandari said:
Thanks for your mini review! Waiting for it to launch in India.
How much did it cost you (in USD)? Are any freebies like PlayStore credit or Dropbox available as well?
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Around 530USD, yeah the samsung book cover is free, they also did a free phone promo, you get to take home the samsung phone you draw from lot, most guy went home with the cheapest samsung phone including myself
Drop box is installed, if thats what you mean
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Do anyone know the release date of the 3G model and the possible price on US, because I am planning to buy it?
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Do anyone know the release date of the 3G model and the possible price on US, because I am planning to buy it?
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Currently, Samsung does not seem to have any plan or intention to launch a phablet version of the device in the US. You'll likely either have to wait for them to come to their senses, or buy an international version.
Juvenall said:
Currently, Samsung does not seem to have any plan or intention to launch a phablet version of the device in the US. You'll likely either have to wait for them to come to their senses, or buy an international version.
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I'm interested for the the international version.
Heard anything about that?
The 3G price would seem to be hovering around the $800 mark based on eBay listings for the GT-N5100, but it's availability still seems up in the air. Hopefully someone outside of the US can point you towards a reputable international seller with stock.
Wow. It will be so expensive.
Thanks for your help.
The 3G version retails around $580 in Asia. Prices will come down on eBay very soon.
I'm waiting for it in the US as well. There's a site called Negri Electronics located in Las Vegas, that has a pre order page for it, listed at $660 at the time of this post. From what I've heard, the international version should be released April 30, but I haven't found any confirmation. As far as releasing s US version, I'm sure they'll release an LTE version sooner or later for use with CDMA networks like Verizon and US Cellular, but if you plan on getting it going on T-Mobile (like me), it'll only run on their 1900mhz frequency, which allows phone calls, but mostly 2g data speeds, unless you're in an area where they've refarmed the 1900mhz frequency to run HSPA speeds. Good luck and let's hope they bring this bad boy to T-Mobile!
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^Yeah, I went ahead and put in my preorder for the 16GB 3G + WiFi N5100 from Negri Electronics last week. It was the least expensive site that I could find, and I know that they are a reputable seller. And since they are in Las Vegas shipping is relatively fast to the Los Angeles area.
Up until early yesterday the site said that the "Expected Availability" date was April 23rd, but just this morning (Los Angeles time) I checked again, and now it says May 8th. Gotta wait a bit longer now and I'm chomping at the bit as it is, LOL. Still, I wish it were closer to just ~$100 (or less) of a premium for the 3G/Phone version instead of the blatant raping that it is.
And we all know that Samsung would sell EXPONENTIALLY more of these if they matched the iPad Mini pricing, and actually released the 32gb versions at the same time as the 16gb base model, and for just $30-$40 more. At least we DO have the option to add microSD cards at a reasonable cost, but really Samsung?...a $100 more for a measly 16gb additional? That's just cwazy. (Yes, I have the same issue with Apple regarding this!) And Samsung makes the RAM memory chips so it's probably something like 50¢ more in actual production cost. :/
Yes. I still ordered one, but it was not an easy (or rational) decision that I made, LOL! It's actually just a bit depressing to contemplate spending so much for their "shiny plastic products", when the competition offer much nicer physical or cosmetic designs and materials (IMO), and at less cost.
I really believe that Samsung creates amazing products, and ergonomically I prefer most of their products over Apple's in that regard. However, they did miss the mark with the speaker and capacitive button placement on the Note 8.0. And I don't know what the designers were thinking with the camera protruding so much that the tab rocks from side-to-side when placed on a table, desk, etc. :/ So much for accurate use of the S-pen (the hero feature of this device)!
IMO, the Galaxy Tab 7.7 is the ONLY Samsung mobile electronics device that I can think of where I feel they came even close to matching the build quality and physical design of their competition. But once again, they priced it way out of the market. :/
And I don't mind the use of plastics one bit if they are used properly like the polycarbonates used in some of the higher-end Nokia and HTC devices. I truly feel that when Samsung gets their build quality up to par that the vast majority of the public will have no problem paying Apple-level prices (or more), and they'll sell a bazillion just like Apple does. But they're demanding premium prices, even over what Apple demands, but for an inferior physical design/build quality (IMHO). Why does Samsung not "get this"?!? People expect a BMW or Mercedes when they pay the price for one, not a Citroen (no offense to any Citroen owners).
With the Galaxy S4, if Samsung had just stepped-up the build quality alone (plus the 13mp camera), and nothing more as compared to the GS3, I would have purchased it. But with the same 'ol shiny plastic, its just a "Meh" product to me.
Also, I was really hoping that they would have included the hardware FM Radio tuner on the International version of the Note 8.0, just as they did on the Int'l SGS2, SGS3, Note (N7000), and Note 2. Initially, I didn't think that I would use the FM tuner at all, but I've found that I use it quite a bit...saves quite a bit on data as opposed to streaming.
LOL, sorry that I veered so off topic, haha. /END OF RANT
I am very much looking forward to using the new Note 8.0!
Does the Note 8.0 Jelly bean android has the Profile option? Can multiple users work on one Note 8.0 with different profiles with thier own custimazations like Nexus 10?
livetech2 said:
Does the Note 8.0 Jelly bean android has the Profile option? Can multiple users work on one Note 8.0 with different profiles with thier own custimazations like Nexus 10?
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I don't see that option anywhere on the phine, so i'm assuming 7ts not a feature
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Note 8 LTE
Any news about the LTE version? Which LTE bands? It should be already on the market.
genius24k said:
Drop box is installed, if thats what you mean
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I meant to ask whether you also got the complementary 50 GB dropbox space with the 8.0.
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And we all know that Samsung would sell EXPONENTIALLY more of these if they matched the iPad Mini pricing, and actually released the 32gb versions at the same time as the 16gb base model, and for just $30-$40 more. At least we DO have the option to add microSD cards at a reasonable cost, but really Samsung?...a $100 more for a measly 16gb additional? That's just cwazy. (Yes, I have the same issue with Apple regarding this!) And Samsung makes the RAM memory chips so it's probably something like 50¢ more in actual production cost. :/
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I suspect the a good chunk of the additional cost here is the license for the Wacom digitizer and related technology. Samsung is being extremely aggressive in their pricing and product diversity as a way to combat Apple, so I don't think they would risk letting a well loved brand like Apple undercut them without reason.
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I suspect the a good chunk of the additional cost here is the license for the Wacom digitizer and related technology. Samsung is being extremely aggressive in their pricing and product diversity as a way to combat Apple, so I don't think they would risk letting a well loved brand like Apple undercut them without reason.
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Agree, but Do you think that even more diversification would help Samsung?
I think they should think of introducing a Note 8.0 sans the digitiser. Then they can really target the iPad Mini. It would still be a great product as many online reviews (Engadget) claim so.
That would be the true spiritual successor to the 7.7
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Where can I buy The GN 8.0 3G in US? Online store....

Hi where can i buy the Galaxy Note 8.0 at US online store? The only thing i see is the wifi version...Also I visited that Negrielectronics online store...it's so expensive... about $597.50 . Thanks
hatyrei said:
Hi where can i buy the Galaxy Note 8.0 at US online store? The only thing i see is the wifi version...Also I visited that Negrielectronics online store...it's so expensive... about $597.50 . Thanks
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Sorry, not officially sold in US, so you'll have to rely rely on 3rd party importers and will be more expensive unless you know someobe in Europe or Asia that can ship you one.
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^This.
Negri Electronics' price is the least expensive that I've found for the 3G version from a U.S. importer...currently at $597.50. But they do have excellent customer service and are a reputable seller. I've ordered "International" items from them several times. GSM Nation and Expansys USA are good as well, but usually more expensive.
Just a heads up to those of you in the U.S. that are waiting for the Int'l 3G/Phone version...It looks as if my preordered Int'l Note 8.0 3G+WiFi (N5100) should be shipped very soon from Negri Electronics (Las Vegas) here in the U.S. FYI, Negri Electronics is showing these as "IN STOCK" at the moment. Your browser user agent must be in "Desktop View/Mode" to see the full details of stock availability. EDIT: they are now listed as "BACKORDER".
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-n5100-galaxy-note-8-0-16gb-3g-unlocked-white.html
My credit card company sends me email alerts every time there is a transaction over $300, and they just sent me a Transaction Alert for a charge from N.E. I've had a preorder in for the Int'l Note 8.0 since April 16th, and IME Negri Electronics will only charge your credit card when they have stock in hand ready to ship, so my fingers are crossed. I'll keep you updated.
P.S. If you register an account at Negri and put the item in your shopping cart but do not follow through with the purchase (just leave it in your "shopping Cart"), in a few days Negri will email you with a $10 OFF coupon code for the item in your cart. And if you wait another few days they will send you a $20 off coupon code. It's not much, but every little bit helps as this item is so expensive already. Good luck.
I did wanted one of these for everyday devices but it's way too expensive for me. There's nothing wrong with my skyrocket I have now but I want upgrade. And my wife wants my phone so I guess I'll have to look else elsewhere.
Perhaps in a month or two the price could drop to within my reach?
One can only hope.....
vbrookie said:
I did wanted one of these for everyday devices but it's way too expensive for me. There's nothing wrong with my skyrocket I have now but I want upgrade. And my wife wants my phone so I guess I'll have to look else elsewhere.
Perhaps in a month or two the price could drop to within my reach?
One can only hope.....
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Yeah, it is expensive. No doubt. But if you compare it with the price of a contract-free Unlocked Int'l Galaxy Note II GT-N7100 (which it is almost identical to hardware-wise except for the display, rear camera+LED Flash, and FM Tuner) it is a very similar price, at least here in the U.S.
I paid 608.00 on Ebay from a US seller with 1000+ feedback.
Picked up GeekSquad Spill and Drop insurance for another 50-something bucks.
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Yeah, it is expensive. No doubt. But if you compare it with the price of a contract-free Unlocked Int'l Galaxy Note II GT-N7100 (which it is almost identical to hardware-wise except for the display, rear camera+LED Flash, and FM Tuner) it is a very similar price, at least here in the U.S.
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I don't know how well it's going to receive around the world. This device isn't most powerful or innovative phablet that has yet to come out from Samsung but it is rumored to be more expensive then Apple mini. I don't care if it doesn't have Octa core or 3gb of ram but I am still over the fence about Samsung thinks because it has a S pen it can crush Apple and it's iSheeps without being most powerful and priced lower then mini. Don't get me wrong I love Samsung and I stand by I will only buy Samsung phones since I went thought several HTC(UGH) and Motorola(UGH) and Apple(double UGH) but I think Samsung is being just too ambitious this time. We will see how everything goes with in few months. If this succeed and still priced high, I will go to cheaper option and buy P3100 and wait for something reasonable from Samsung.
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I don't know how well it's going to receive around the world. This device isn't most powerful or innovative phablet that has yet to come out from Samsung but it is rumored to be more expensive then Apple mini. I don't care if it doesn't have Octa core or 3gb of ram but I am still over the fence about Samsung thinks because it has a S pen it can crush Apple and it's iSheeps without being most powerful and priced lower then mini. Don't get me wrong I love Samsung and I stand by I will only buy Samsung phones since I went thought several HTC(UGH) and Motorola(UGH) and Apple(double UGH) but I think Samsung is being just too ambitious this time. We will see how everything goes with in few months. If this succeed and still priced high, I will go to cheaper option and buy P3100 and wait for something reasonable from Samsung.
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Performance-wise, there is not a single problem with the Galaxy Note 8.0, unless you want it solely for playing the most demanding games, which the iPad Mini isn't ideal for either, so? And in some markets such as India, the 3G+WiFi Note 8.0 is only $20 USD more than the iPad Mini 3G+WiFi. For that $20 you get the S-Pen/Wacom Digitizer, PHONE & TEXT capability, and the TV/DVR/STEREO Remote Control IR Blaster! I'd say that is pretty compelling.
My other thoughts regarding the competition?...If Samsung would have made the BUILD QUALITY of the Note 8.0 similar to the HTC ONE or iPad Mini, then I think they would have a chance at being a true competitor in the general public's eyes.
And why not put the "old" 8MP Camera from the S3 in it to sweeten the deal? And please don't tell me that a good camera is useless in a tablet. When you need it, you need it! I can't tell you how many soccer moms and dads I've seen using their iPads to capture photos and videos of their kids between browsing the web or "Facebook'ing" during the game. Or taking photos of products, clothes, or comparison shopping by scanning barcodes and QR codes...or "scanning" business or personal receipts into financial apps.
I also think that they should really advertise and push the IR Blaster/Remote Control feature of this device! Just about everyone that can afford a tablet has an HDTV and cable/satellite service. Having the IR Blaster/WatchOn/Peel functionality, combined with the S-Pen features, true Multi-Window multitasking, and cellular Phone/Texting capability make this tablet/phablet truly unique in the marketplace.
BUT, they need interactive or video displays in the stores like Best Buy that demonstrate these unique features with a "Try that with an iPad...they can't do it" type of message. Everybody already knows what an iPad can do. But when comparing tablets in hand, customers just see a screen with a bunch of icons, they don't know the awesome things that ONLY the Note 8.0 can do!
They also need to advertise as above (like in the new S4 "swimming pool" commercial) how older folks and children can use this device, in addition to the unique advantages it gives a business person. And they need to give developers much more incentive to create unique and top notch tablet-specific apps, with and without S-pen functionality. And they also need to stop trying to copy or duplicate the Google apps that are already available and better! They need to realize that their tablets are nothing without the Google ecosystem.
/END OF ANOTHER RANT, LOL! Sorry.
hatyrei said:
Hi where can i buy the Galaxy Note 8.0 at US online store? The only thing i see is the wifi version...Also I visited that Negrielectronics online store...it's so expensive... about $597.50 . Thanks
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You have the option of third party suppliers. The other option is to wait a little longer. The LTE version is close to being released. There is a video on You Tube showing it but it's in Chinese and I can't understand it. I will say it looks good though. I'm waiting to see what frequencies the 4G version will come with as well.
I'm pretty sure the only LTE version announced is one that does not use US LTE bands and still would only give HSPA speeds to most people.
^You are most likely correct. I would be surprised if this model had LTE bands that are usable in the U.S. Perhaps if the proper antennas and radio amps are already in the hardware, a crafty developer could port the radio software from the AT&T Galaxy Note II?
UPDATE on my purchase from Negri Electronics:
I received an email from Negri Electronics today with a FedEx Tracking Number for the Galaxy Note 8.0 3G+WiFi (GT-N5100).
However, it is being shipped directly from Hong Kong and not from the N.E. location in Las Vegas, so it will take a few more days to get here than I originally expected (Los Angeles area).
Other devices that I have purchased from them have shipped from the L.V. location so I didn't expect this when I placed my preorder. If I had known ahead of time, I might have ordered one from eBay seller 'never-msrp' in Houston, TX.
Either way I'm looking forward to getting it. I just wanted to let anyone else who has preordered from Negri, or is thinking about it, know what's up.
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^You are most likely correct. I would be surprised if this model had LTE bands that are usable in the U.S. Perhaps if the proper antennas and radio amps are already in the hardware, a crafty developer could port the radio software from the AT&T Galaxy Note II?
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I've been searching like crazy trying to see if anyone's been able to do this with the Note 8 or 10.1, but I can't seem to find anyone that's been able to do it. I know there's a way to enable T-Mobile's AWS bands for a rooted AT&T N2, but as far as enabling any LTE or AWS bands on a N8 or N10.1 (non-Verizon), I haven't had any luck. I'm not sure they're even the same radios
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Ya i am not able to find a link where i can purchase galaxy 8.0 online. Please share a link if you guys have it.

[Q] Why would I buy Exynos?

Ok, so everyone today is pre-ordering on amazon or wherever you can go to get it without tax... good for them... but not me.
I will own a Note 10.1 2014, around the time it comes out, so I'm already committed to the purchase.
The one on pre-order at Amazon is the Exynos WIFI only.
I think I'd rather by the 4gLTE/WIFI one at ATT. Here is why:
-I get the Snapdragon 800 and Adreno GPU which I've been reading is pretty much the best over the Exynos.
-Developers love making custom ROMS with those Qualcomm chips (bloat removal)
-I can pull the SIM card out of my ATT Samsung S4 and plug it into my tablet when I feel like going online with it.
-I buy it from ATT unlocked, spend the same amount of money as the one on Amazon, and I get the above features for free.
Now... the reasons for getting the one on Amazon:
-I can order it now and have a good chance of it shipping out on the release date.
-You can say that Samsung has announced that they will unlock the dormant 4 cores of the 8core Exynos in the future.... but did they promise you that they would enable it on the Note 10.1 2014? No. No promises whatsoever. You'd be setting yourself up for some serious disappointment if you bought the Exynos, expecting it to happen, and then they enable it with the next device. If an active 8-core tablet is what you MUST HAVE, then wait until they ship a product with an active 8core tablet... not when they announce that some day it will happen.
I'm just waiting for ATT to have a pre-order or a release page come up for their 4G/LTE/WIFI tablet.
Anyone poke holes in my logic?
Where did you fund a price that was the same between the two? Thw lte one costs several hundred dollars more accounting fir the cost of the contract.
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Diogenes5 said:
Where did you fund a price that was the same between the two? Thw lte one costs several hundred dollars more accounting fir the cost of the contract.
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Can you share a link to the contract and price?
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Can you share a link to the contract and price?
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The note 2014 isn't listed yet but it's always been the case for mobile/lte devices that they cost several hundred dollars more in the US accounting for the cost of contract. If the LTE version really did cost the same, why the hell would anyone buy the WiFi only version?
wait, if we pre-order it on amazon, we don't need to pay for tax, but if we order it later we have to?! why is it like that?!
how about for best buy?
(I'm new to US, can somebody clear that up for me pls?)
Two answers.
To the first, I want to buy the tablet, full price, no contract. I'll pay the non-subsidized price, to get it unlocked and without the contract. With my ATT SIM, I'll just drop it in whenever I feel like. That has to be an option... You take the contract for the subsidy. It wouldn't make sense for me to buy the tablet at full price plus a service contract, and then the next day I cancel the contract AND get a late fee. Am I wrong about that? Educate the thread.
State sales tax is different in every state. I'm in California and Amazon charges sales tax. I researched it and if I were to buy the Exynos... I was going to buy from TigerDirect since they don't charge CA Sales Tax.
Still not convinced to go the Exynos path...
-Lox
Having owned devices based on both Snapdragon and Exynos.
Samsung fab is better than TSMC so this results in better idle battery life so when you leave it idle for days it hardly drops battery life, is cooler running and with better stability.
Exynos performance is more consistent as it tends to keep more cores active and the clock rate higher. In contrast, Snapdragon aggressively disables cores where there is usually only one active and runs the clock rate low so the performance is inconsistent like what I experience with Snapdragon 600 on Nexus 7 2013.
Related to the above, Droidfish app nodes per second rate on the Note 3 Exynos is nearly double that of the Note 3 Snapdragon.
Undecided on GPU between the two since it's not clear if Exynos 5420 will have T628 or PowerVR GPU.

UK pricing - going up, not down!

Normally a few months after the initial surge of interest in a product dies down, the price tends to drop a little. However for some reason the Note 10.1 2014 seems to be going up if anything here in the UK, although in the States it does appear to be dropping.
The US price is now generally around $499 (plus tax) for the wi-fi model, while the UK price has gone up from under £400 a few months ago (£365 at John Lewis I gather) to nearer £450 most places.
Does anyone know what's going on, have Samsung UK increased their suggested price or something?
Andre
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Normally a few months after the initial surge of interest in a product dies down, the price tends to drop a little. However for some reason the Note 10.1 2014 seems to be going up if anything here in the UK, although in the States it does appear to be dropping.
The US price is now generally around $499 (plus tax) for the wi-fi model, while the UK price has gone up from under £400 a few months ago (£365 at John Lewis I gather) to nearer £450 most places.
Does anyone know what's going on, have Samsung UK increased their suggested price or something?
Andre
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When I saw the UK prices, it really baulked me.
I wanted a tablet that not only worked on Wi-Fi, but 3G, 4G/LTE, but I couldn't get one, especially a 32Gb model, which I consider to be the basement model (I wouldn't even consider a 16Gb).
I nearly paid the extra for an Ipad, however I decided to do more research and in the end I imported one from HK and even when I paid the VAT on it, it came in significantly cheaper than some of the prices of the 16Gb, Wi-Fi model.
It's worth doing a little extra research and importing it yourself and get a better specified machine, at a lower price.
I could pick one up in the States next time I'm over there, but I'm a little wary of not having a proper international warranty as that caught me out once (thanks Samsung, so much for global corporations!).
16GB actually doesn't worry me as long as it has an SD card slot, much cheaper to put 64GB onto it that way than pay for a bigger base model. Well, upcoming stock KitKat stupidities notwithstanding anyway, but that won't be hard to fix.
Andre
andrewilley said:
I could pick one up in the States next time I'm over there, but I'm a little wary of not having a proper international warranty as that caught me out once (thanks Samsung, so much for global corporations!).
16GB actually doesn't worry me as long as it has an SD card slot, much cheaper to put 64GB onto it that way than pay for a bigger base model. Well, upcoming stock KitKat stupidities notwithstanding anyway, but that won't be hard to fix.
Andre
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Why buy a 16Gb one? You can get the 32Gb version quite easily over there, but the currency conversion made it more expensive to buy it from the US, also I used PayPal to pay for it, so I had a bit of protection too.
My SM-P605 has a 64Gb card in and I'm already running low on memory, so I only hope that the new SanDisk 128Gb card comes out soon at a reasonable price.
I think a few places had them on offer just before and after christmas. Got mine from John Lewis for £399 in mid jan, took ages to find somewhere with one in stock at that price. There were quite a few places charging (or trying to) over £500! I think about £450 was the average book price but so many places were out of stock, or were trying to sell the old one still at £399........
They want to sell the new Tab 10.1 at such a high price, that they had to raise that of the note, to keep people from going straight for a note instead.
Let's be honest. Samsung charging iPad+ prices for the Pro/Note series takes balls of steel. Android tablets are bought typically by bargain seekers unwilling to pay iPad prices and are typically 7-8" and under $250. One thing iPads have always provided was a certain cache and snob appeal; everyone knows what everyone else paid. With the Pro/Note's Samsung seems to be raising the snob appeal. With the 16GB iPad Air at 399 GBP whether Samsung prices at 375 GBP or 425 GBP it's still close enough that if people really considered a high-end Android tablet as an iPad alternative they'd still buy it. I don't think someone predisposed to an iPad would say "I'll buy the Samsung Tab|Pro because I'll save 50 GBP." How many people think a high-end Android tablet is an iPad alternative is a whole different discussion and will be proven by the success (or failure) of Samsung's strategy in offering the Pro/Note series in the first place.
The G-Tab 4 certainly is a step down in design and specs so perhaps Samsung's strategy is to make the 4's their volume seller (EG: BMW 3-series) and the Pro/Note's their margin leader (EG: BMW 7-series).
Apparently the Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 10.1 will pack a 10.6″ (odd, right?) display of 1280×800 pixels resolution and will run on Snapdragon 400 chipset with a quad-core 1.2GHz Cortex-A7 processor, Adreno 305 GPU and 1.5GB of RAM. Other revealed specs are the 3MP rear and the 1.2MP front camera, 16GB internal storage (12GB actually available) and the latest Android 4.4.2 KitKat OS. Digging into the GFX Benchmark database you can also find the Galaxy Tab 4 8.0. It has absolutely the same specs but less screen estate.​
I got my 32gb LTE P605 from eBay for 465. Came from HK In 3 says. No customs charges. Flashed a OEM UK firmware and all is great.
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andythilo said:
I got my 32gb LTE P605 from eBay for 465. Came from HK In 3 says. No customs charges. Flashed a OEM UK firmware and all is great.
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And gave up your 2 year UK warranty in the process. Or you can ship it round trip to HK at your expense to have warranty repairs done there. Does Samsung UK even service grey market devices for a fee? Samsung U.S. won't. I had to ship my UK-purchased i9100 back to the UK for a cracked bezel. Caveat Emptor.
The guy I bought it from is a dealer. He will sort any warranty issues and is in the UK. I spoke to him before I bought it.
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The guy I bought it from is a dealer.
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Well as long as you know a guy, you won't need Samsung's 2-year support then.
Andre
You're right I won't. It's 0x1 anyway so I'll claim off household as accidental damage if anything happens.
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You're right I won't. It's 0x1 anyway so I'll claim off household as accidental damage if anything happens.
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Got mine from HK too. Not rooted yet but soon will and once it's 0x1 the difficulty of a warranty claim becomes irrelavent.
It cost me £439 inc. import duty.
Got a bill from FedEx . Contacted the seller and he's refunded me already! What a quality seller!
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Review from Android Authority

Android Authority just released there video review of the Mate 7, while they do decent reviews in a realistic way it says a lot when they gave him a "EDITOR'S CHOICE"
Nice review, this is gonna make it harder for me to choice which device i go for in 2 months from now. (Nexus 6, Note4, Mate 7)
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Android Authority just released there video review of the Mate 7, while they do decent reviews in a realistic way it says a lot when they gave him a "EDITOR'S CHOICE"
Nice review, this is gonna make it harder for me to choice which device i go for in 2 months from now. (Nexus 6, Note4, Mate 7)
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Its a good review indeed and I'm pretty much on the same boat as you word er gek van!
The specs aren't that great compared to the note 4/nexus 6 tho.
The thing that I do like is the battery size.
I'm concerned about the software updates tho, Huawei doesn't have a good track record of that.
Sammath said:
Its a good review indeed and I'm pretty much on the same boat as you word er gek van!
The specs aren't that great compared to the note 4/nexus 6 tho.
The thing that I do like is the battery size.
I'm concerned about the software updates tho, Huawei doesn't have a good track record of that.
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Yes. That announcement in the US for non-upgrade of mate 2 is disappointing.
Sammath said:
Its a good review indeed and I'm pretty much on the same boat as you word er gek van!
The specs aren't that great compared to the note 4/nexus 6 tho.
The thing that I do like is the battery size.
I'm concerned about the software updates tho, Huawei doesn't have a good track record of that.
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Yes. That announcement in the US for non-upgrade of mate 2 is disappointing.
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The specs are indeed not comparable with the Note 4 and the Nexus 6, but it comes very close to them (especially when you keep in mind it is 200$/euro cheaper) and in normal day to day usage you wouldn't notice the difference anyway because in speed, screen quality the difference is to small to notice. (If you dont compare them everyday)
But also my major concern of the Mate 7 is the official update support and rom development, because when i buy a new phone/renewal contract i keep the phone for 2 years.
And if they do the same trick as they did with the "Mate 2" it would be very disappointing, an update support for 24 months on a new device (Mate 7) would be in place if they want to compete against Samsung and Apple.
And second it comes to custom rom development....when do not update the phone in a proper way (or not what i had in mind) i want to be able to flash custom roms, and while there is ROM development on different Chinese forums, i am a bit skeptical if there going to be enough development on this XDA forum.
And i have not enough free time (Father, 3 kids ) that i can make my own roms they way i did in the past on my galaxy S1.
This is my vision at the moment.
I have not decided yet, my renewal is on the first week of januari 2015 so i have almost 2 months to look where the Mate 7 development is going to
wimmetje said:
The specs are indeed not comparable with the Note 4 and the Nexus 6, but it comes very close to them (especially when you keep in mind it is 200$/euro cheaper) and in normal day to day usage you wouldn't notice the difference anyway because in speed, screen quality the difference is to small to notice. (If you dont compare them everyday)
But also my major concern of the Mate 7 is the official update support and rom development, because when i buy a new phone/renewal contract i keep the phone for 2 years.
And if they do the same trick as they did with the "Mate 2" it would be very disappointing, an update support for 24 months on a new device (Mate 7) would be in place if they want to compete against Samsung and Apple.
And second it comes to custom rom development....when do not update the phone in a proper way (or not what i had in mind) i want to be able to flash custom roms, and while there is ROM development on different Chinese forums, i am a bit skeptical if there going to be enough development on this XDA forum.
And i have not enough free time (Father, 3 kids ) that i can make my own roms they way i did in the past on my galaxy S1.
This is my vision at the moment.
I have not decided yet, my renewal is on the first week of januari 2015 so i have almost 2 months to look where the Mate 7 development is going to
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Well, the review said it's 700 dollars. That ain't cheaper than a nexus 6. Pretty expensive for the hardware you get imo.
I'm still undecided, depends if the 3gb 32 gig version comes to The Netherlands.
Sammath said:
Well, the review said it's 700 dollars. That ain't cheaper than a nexus 6. Pretty expensive for the hardware you get imo.
I'm still undecided, depends if the 3gb 32 gig version comes to The Netherlands.
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The premium version will not come to Holland.
getmobilephone said:
The premium version will not come to Holland.
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Okay, Huawei will not get my money then
Sammath said:
Well, the review said it's 700 dollars. That ain't cheaper than a nexus 6. Pretty expensive for the hardware you get imo.
I'm still undecided, depends if the 3gb 32 gig version comes to The Netherlands.
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499 euro in the netherlands for the 2gb/16gb version and 549 euro for the 3gb/32gb version, see link below
Note 4 is 700 euro and Nexus should be around (guessing) 650 euro?
The 3 versions in dutch webshop
So yeah, the price difference isn't that much (200-300euro) if you keep in mind that i use the phone 2 years.
So i hope that the mediamarkt or another phone shop is getting the Huawei on stock so i can see and try it out in my own eyes and hands :laugh:
Phonearena just did a comparison. I am disappointed with the camera tbh and was hoping for better quality but this is an area huawei are quite weak.
wimmetje said:
499 euro in the netherlands for the 2gb/16gb version and 549 euro for the 3gb/32gb version, see link below
Note 4 is 700 euro and Nexus should be around (guessing) 650 euro?
The 3 versions in dutch webshop
So yeah, the price difference isn't that much (200-300euro) if you keep in mind that i use the phone 2 years.
So i hope that the mediamarkt or another phone shop is getting the Huawei on stock so i can see and try it out in my own eyes and hands :laugh:
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Thats a nice price for the 3gb version. Hopefully it will become available then. I'm not downgrading to a 2gb version, my note 3 has 3gigs of ram and it's always full.
Btw, on that site the nexus 6 32gb is listed as cheaper at 449 euro.
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Thats a nice price for the 3gb version. Hopefully it will become available then. I'm not downgrading to a 2gb version, my note 3 has 3gigs of ram and it's always full.
Btw, on that site the nexus 6 32gb is listed as cheaper at 449 euro.
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Wow I didn't see that price of the nexus 6
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wimmetje said:
499 euro in the netherlands for the 2gb/16gb version and 549 euro for the 3gb/32gb version, see link below
Note 4 is 700 euro and Nexus should be around (guessing) 650 euro?
The 3 versions in dutch webshop
So yeah, the price difference isn't that much (200-300euro) if you keep in mind that i use the phone 2 years.
So i hope that the mediamarkt or another phone shop is getting the Huawei on stock so i can see and try it out in my own eyes and hands :laugh:
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Good prize for the Gold in 3 Go of ram and 32 Go of memory but not in stock ... it's a real dual sim or only european 1 sim ?
What's happening with the warranty on this site and full compatible in Belgium with Base, Mobistar or Proximus ?
Hi all, and especially the Dutch posting here :highfive:
I've been considering this phone ever since I heard about it. I've got big hands and love the wideness of the Note 3. Most phones are long, but slim. The Mate7 is even a little bit wider, and has smaller bezels. Sounds perfect! That it doesn't have the best hardware doesn't bother me that much, if the batterylife is half of what it seems to be.
Has anyone gotten their hands on one of the Mate7's, preferably with 3GB RAM, and know how it's batterylife is doing? And if in Europe, where did you order yours? What would be a good shop?
dekraan said:
Hi all, and especially the Dutch posting here :highfive:
I've been considering this phone ever since I heard about it. I've got big hands and love the wideness of the Note 3. Most phones are long, but slim. The Mate7 is even a little bit wider, and has smaller bezels. Sounds perfect! That it doesn't have the best hardware doesn't bother me that much, if the batterylife is half of what it seems to be.
Has anyone gotten their hands on one of the Mate7's, preferably with 3GB RAM, and know how it's batterylife is doing? And if in Europe, where did you order yours? What would be a good shop?
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The battery life is awesome, 4100 mHa! You can order the international version at Amazon DE France, for 2 GB RAM L09 version. We have sold units 3 GB RAM TL10 version to Holland and it works perfectly there.
Thanks for your reply! Do you know when the black 3GB version will be released? The gold doesn't really appeal to me. The live chat at liaow told me it could take a couple of weeks.
dekraan said:
Thanks for your reply! Do you know when the black 3GB version will be released? The gold doesn't really appeal to me. The live chat at liaow told me it could take a couple of weeks.
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Our HUAWEI lady said not in a month or so. The silver version is running as limited production now. Really, the Gold looks very nice in hands, confirmed by several forum members (who also are our customers).
The Gold version is also OOS and the situation will last till Mid December. In this month, HUAWEI will deliver 1.4 M units to China Mobile, China TeleCom, and China UniCom. So the premium version, 3 GB ROM 32 GB RAM version, will be limited manufactured.
Glad to hear T-Mobile and AT&T LTE work on it..

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