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Ok about a couple hours ago I noticed my wifi would turn itself on multiple times, and I turn it off and it keeps coming on, I think it does it when I put my phone to sleep, im not sure. I think it started happening since I installed the Blue Star 5 theme. Any ideas?
Stupid question... but you don't have Locale installed do you?
Figured I would ask. I have mine set up so that it would automatically fire up my wifi because although I get 3G outside I can't get it through my mighty wooden walls where I live. Go figure. Every so often I guess Locale looses my position and it puts me on and off the network. Pretty annoying. So I disabled that and installed some apps to keep my wifi on even while my phone sleeps. There's a few out there, Wifi Insomnia, Wi-Fi Lock, KeepWiFi are a few that I have experiment with. Although since I have all three installed now... I'm honestly not sure which one I'm using.
Binary100100 said:
Stupid question... but you don't have Locale installed do you?
Figured I would ask. I have mine set up so that it would automatically fire up my wifi because although I get 3G outside I can't get it through my mighty wooden walls where I live. Go figure. Every so often I guess Locale looses my position and it puts me on and off the network. Pretty annoying. So I disabled that and installed some apps to keep my wifi on even while my phone sleeps. There's a few out there, Wifi Insomnia, Wi-Fi Lock, KeepWiFi are a few that I have experiment with. Although since I have all three installed now... I'm honestly not sure which one I'm using.
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Nope no Locale, I never even turned it on manually in the 1st place, idn whats wrong with it, I might uninstall the theme to see if it stops
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Nope no Locale, I never even turned it on manually in the 1st place, idn whats wrong with it, I might uninstall the theme to see if it stops
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Hmmm. Well... maybe try seeing if it does it in safe mode if that doesn't work. If it does it in safe mode too then I dunno. If it doesn't then it's probably an app messing with it.
I heard it could be ShopSavvy that is causing that.
If you have an app like keepwifi that basically keeps your wifi signal on, that might be whats causing it. If not, you might want to try other apps that require things such as internet access or access to settings.
We need an list of apps you have installed. Power Manager will do this also.
I too am having this problem!
Sometime the wifi doesn't stay on and I only knew it was turning on thanks to wifi toggle's symbol at the top.
I am running JF's 1.43 RC9 with root etc etc.
The apps I have installed are:
ASTRO
Download crutch lite
DroidFtp
Droidsans tweak tools
fBook
GPS status
JF updater
Meebo
PapiJump
Picasa
Pkt auctions ebay
Ringdroid
Scrambled net
Shazam
Shopsavvy (my suspisions are on this one!)
Skype
Sms awake
Toggle wifi
Thanks
Phil
Okay,figured out what it is. Its the theme u downloaded. Couple hours ago my g1 started turning on the wifi whenever it felt like it.I figured it was something I downloaded recently but I downloaded apps to check them out& then uninstalled them.apps have no effect after u uninstall them.then u mentioned the theme u just downloaded. Well go figure,I just downloaded the same theme wit a few others today.then my wifi started acting up.concidence? I think not.
Lol let me know how u do.
Hmmm, im not sure if its the theme, someone mentioned the setting on ShopSavvy, after I took it off it hasnt been turning on. I still have the theme on btw, but I modified it, so it may have been ShopSavvy
wifi not turning on
My problem is different my wifi wont turn on? if i start my wifi it will show a message that wifi failed to turn on... Can anyone help me on this
Weird, i had shopsavvy from day one, never encountered such a problem. still have it, and deleted the theme. Now the wifi is back to normal. problem with the G1 is, everyone can have the same problems or issues but different solutions with each device lol. the beauty of the G1.
Btw, does anyone know if the "shake awake" app really kills the battery?
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I heard it could be ShopSavvy that is causing that.
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ShopSavvy is a definite cause of this problem. I've been in touch with the developers over it, and they have admitted that there's a problem with the WiFi coming on randomly
they've assured me that the next update will fix it. i hope so, because ShopSavvy was useful until it started doing this
here you go guys............i posted this in the Tethering thread as well. this will fix the issue. it is indeed Shop Savvy, but heres the fix, just copy and pasted from my other post:
Originally Posted by The Great NY
hey whats up guys,
i was having the problem as well with the disconnects. but for those of you who love having shop Savvy and still want the Tether without disconnects. here is how you fix the problem.
1. On your G1, open the Shop Savvy APP
2. once Shop savvy's screen shows up, SELECT settings
3. select PRIVACY
****you will see a phase that says "find my location" with a button to the right that will say "ON"****
4. press the button, now it should say "OFF"
5. Exit out of Shop Savvy
Voila.........no more disconnects. I have been tethering for 2 hours non-stop. happy tethering.
my wifi keeps today also itself on
I never installed Shopsavvy. So that cant be the problem.
I didnt changed anything today on my phone
The Great NY said:
here you go guys............i posted this in the Tethering thread as well. this will fix the issue. it is indeed Shop Savvy, but heres the fix, just copy and pasted from my other post:
Originally Posted by The Great NY
hey whats up guys,
i was having the problem as well with the disconnects. but for those of you who love having shop Savvy and still want the Tether without disconnects. here is how you fix the problem.
1. On your G1, open the Shop Savvy APP
2. once Shop savvy's screen shows up, SELECT settings
3. select PRIVACY
****you will see a phase that says "find my location" with a button to the right that will say "ON"****
4. press the button, now it should say "OFF"
5. Exit out of Shop Savvy
Voila.........no more disconnects. I have been tethering for 2 hours non-stop. happy tethering.
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yes, this fixes the issue of ShopSavvy randomly switching on the WiFi and disconnecting ongoing sessions, but it completely renders the most useful thing about ShopSavvy useless.
I've been beta testing the latest version of ShopSavvy, and it doesn't seem to be doing this random WiFi anymore. It is also a version of ShopSavvy that is compatible with Cupcake 1.5.
I don't know why but my wi-fi keeps turning itself on.. I keep it turning it off and it keeps turning it on! It's annoying and drains the battery. Any suggestions?
The phone is rooted and has JF1.42. I am not using any third party apps to control the wi-fi.
anyone else have this issue?
I'm having the same issue.. but I use WifiLock for my WiFi, and the deluxe Power Mgr in general (no settings for Wifi though).... Haven't had time to troubleshoot yet.
I don't use any programs to control my wi-fi... Everytime there is a wi-fi available, the phone turns on wifi and starts connecting...
it's annoying because it keeps loging me in and out of Gtalk!....
Same here... I bet this part of the battery drain issue
I've read on the market (and confirmed) that ShopSavvy is turning peoples WIFI on when it shouldn't be. Check the comments section for the application called ToggleWIFI and WiFiStatus, both by Andrew Schimmer. Could be another rogue app if you don't have this one installed.
I also had that issue and posted about it, someone also mentioned the problem being shopsavvy, I uninstalled it for a day and noticed the problem went away. so now I use Compare anywhere
Originally Posted by The Great NY
hey whats up guys,
i was having the problem as well with the disconnects. but for those of you who love having shop Savvy and still want the Tether without disconnects. here is how you fix the problem.
1. On your G1, open the Shop Savvy APP
2. once Shop savvy's screen shows up, SELECT settings
3. select PRIVACY
****you will see a phase that says "find my location" with a button to the right that will say "ON"****
4. press the button, now it should say "OFF"
5. Exit out of Shop Savvy
Voila.........no more disconnects. I have been tethering for 2 hours non-stop. happy tethering.
The search tool is your best friend .... after google, because he is your first best friend.
So this is sort of a multipurpose post, just saying some of the issue I have had with my Vibrant, and some of the possible solutions or at least information that I believe will help toward finding a solution.
About the GPS, this is what I have noticed:
I am pretty sure this is a software issue and this is why- I've noticed that I only have a problem when I am using the actual GPS and the network based location. I started to notice this first in Foursquare. Even when I could get a lock in Maps (albeit with a blue circle indicating it wasn't terribly accurate) Foursquare would always show where I last checked in... then I realized it wasn't showing where I last checked in, it was showing where I last was located using the GPS. I found that if I turned off the "Use GPS satellites" option, and only used the network location option, Foursquare (and indeed any other GPS program) got my location near instantly. Similarly, when I had only the satellite option checked (and not the network location) as long as I was outside I got a pretty quick and steady lock. When I put both options back on... everything all crappy again. So I've been keeping the actual GPS off unless I'm using navigation, in which case I switch, and I haven't had an issue yet. So I think this is something that they can fix in an update. Any other thoughts would be appreciated.
In regard to Social Network Sync:
It was driving me nuts that half the time I looked in the settings menu it would show that Facebook, Myspace, and Twitter (the Samsung variants) had "errors." Then I realized that for whatever stupid reason, they seem to only run into these errors on wifi. If I turned wifi off and synced... it worked. Turned it back on... didn't work. I tried this a few times. However, that said, the Social Network Sync is kind of broken. For example, even if you have it set to download all of your Facebook friends, after the first time it won't. To add them, you have to go into "Link contact, Get Friends, Facebook" and then check who you want to add .This is kind of annoying, and hopefully will also be fixed with a software update. Again, any thoughts would be appreciated.
About Flash:
This is honestly my biggest issue with the device. If you look in the applications it does have Flash lite. It just doesn't work. Coming from an almost flawless Flash experience on the MyTouch Slide to this is really not fun. The reason this annoys me so much though is because in apps that utilize the browser (for example NewsRob) whenever they load a page that has flash on it, you are kicked into the browser and get an error message (webkit error, file not found or some such.) When I'm browsing through articles in NewsRob it's incredibly annoying to have this stupid error message (which opens the browser, then an error, so it takes three back presses to get back to the article, all of which have a little delay.) Again, this is something that 2.2 should fix, but it's still frustrating. If anyone knows of any possible solution to this it'd be greatly appreciated.
Screen burn in I discovered today.
Much to my dismay, I noticed today that the clock digits were burnt into the screen, much like how the notifications were burnt into the screen on my Nexus One. The difference is that this took awhile to happen on my N1. Not three weeks like I've had the Vibrant. I don't know if this is permanent or just temporary, I have a pure white background open full screen right now, and will run like a color flashing thing next, hopefully this will get rid of it. If not... that's just excessively disappointing. I love love love having what is literally the most advanced screen technology in existence, and having a literally perfect black level, but screen burn in on a few week old device (that has been set at low or auto brightness since day one) is just not acceptable. I will post again after a day or so of white screen/colors and let ya'll know the results. But it's frustrating. Has any one else noticed this yet? Or have any other possible solutions?
Lastly, lag.
I've noticed that the ONLY lag on the device comes from stupid TouchWiz and the Buddies and Feeds widgets. With them disabled the device FLIES. With them on, it's slow and occasionally has to be force closed. For now I have the widgets in question disabled, but this is vastly annoying, and really makes me wish I had my MyTouch Slide back (except with this screen and processor lol.)
So, in conclusion, I generally love this device. But the second T-Mobile announces The MT3GHD, it'll be on eBay faster than you can say Android 2.2 with Espresso lol.
Quick update, jscreenfix app from market fixes the burn in, I let it run for about an hour. I'm going to do that every week just to be safe.
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c0wb0ycliche said:
About the GPS, this is what I have noticed:
I am pretty sure this is a software issue and this is why- I've noticed that I only have a problem when I am using the actual GPS and the network based location. I started to notice this first in Foursquare. Even when I could get a lock in Maps (albeit with a blue circle indicating it wasn't terribly accurate) Foursquare would always show where I last checked in... then I realized it wasn't showing where I last checked in, it was showing where I last was located using the GPS. I found that if I turned off the "Use GPS satellites" option, and only used the network location option, Foursquare (and indeed any other GPS program) got my location near instantly. Similarly, when I had only the satellite option checked (and not the network location) as long as I was outside I got a pretty quick and steady lock. When I put both options back on... everything all crappy again. So I've been keeping the actual GPS off unless I'm using navigation, in which case I switch, and I haven't had an issue yet. So I think this is something that they can fix in an update. Any other thoughts would be appreciated.
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Even though I personally believe the gps is a firmware/driver issue, your explanation above does nothing to narrow it to that... You say the GPS doesnt work right when it is turned on...
well... yeah.
blink55184 said:
Even though I personally believe the gps is a firmware/driver issue, your explanation above does nothing to narrow it to that... You say the GPS doesnt work right when it is turned on...
well... yeah.
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In Location settings, there are two options, Use wireless network and Use GPS satellites. What I am saying is that if BOTH of these options are turned on, it doesn't seem to work properly. If I only use wireless networks, it works (even indoors) but isn't terribly accurate. If I use GPS only, and I am outside, it works, accurately. So I am just saying there seems to be some disconnect between the wireless network location and GPS location working in sync like they normally do.
And (@lemarg) I don't see how my post is whining, I'm just pointing out some observations about the issues I (and other people) been having with the phone. Maybe I misunderstand the point of a forum.
so after a couple of months of reading reviews and post by owners, i decided to pull the trigger last night.
after a 3-4 hour charge, i jumped right into it.
+very fast boot up.
i played with Honeycomb 3.0 before updating it to 3.1. i noticed that 3.1 had bootup & keyboard sounds, while 3.0 had none.
+the chassis is really nice. i loved the look. reminds me of my HTC HD2. rock solid.
+YouTube plays nice. i can already tell that i'm gonna be using this for mainly YouTube. but it really sucks that some videos won't play because it considers the A500 a "mobile device".
+web browsing is good so far. it even ran southparkstudios.com
uhm...that's all i can think of right now for pluses...
...and here's my cons with the tablet:
-it loses wireless connection when the screen goes to "sleep". but this apparently is a VERY common bug and issue with A500 owners. very annoying that i have to restart the wireless to get connection back. this is the main issue i have with it so far. my phone doesn't lose connection to the internet with the screen goes to "sleep".
-there's a dead pixel, but that's easily fixed by exchanging it for a new unit.
-lots of my games that i would normally use on my phone are completely useless because it still maintains a phone sized image. OR it just force closes.
-No Netflix app. although i read somewhere on the internet that there's supposed to be an official Netflix app coming out. but there's no way to confirm the validity of that statement.
-No Hulu
-No dedicated Facebook App
i still have lots to try out still like the HDMI out, the functionality of the USB ports, Divx/MPG/Avi compatibility, and MP3 sound quality. plus i want to see if i can install an NES/SNES emulator and play it via a bluetooth gamepad.
i noticed there's LOTS of ports...which means more possibly entry points for dust. which can be bad. ACER (or someone else) should make plastic/rubber port bootcovers to remedy that.
i haven't tried to install a custom ROM. nor have i tried to root it.
i'm looking forward to the 3.2 update. i'm hoping that'll fix all (or at least some) of the cons.
As for the internet connection, mine with stock rooted US rom (.13) doesn't do that. I have always internet after sleeping.
For the phone apps no scaling you can use Spare Parts and uncheck the compatibility box.
Facebook you can side load it, it works nice on my tablet.
Hulu is a common problem with all the tablets, you need a fixed flashplayer apk.
Hope it helps you
Root the device, for now try virtuous Xoom with 3.2 honeycomb. Once rooted netflix is fairly easily installed. Also, you can set the browser as "desktop". Mine has never lost wifi for any reason other than range.
My a500 have never lost WiFi during sleep.
There is a Tablet app "Friend Me" for Facebook and it is very good!
"Spare Parts" with "compatibility mode" disabled will make all apps full screen!
Never had a problem with a game (except those made or specific hardware)
Hulu and Netflics I can't comment! Living in Europe!
nick2k said:
-it loses wireless connection when the screen goes to "sleep".
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Go to settings and turn that option off then...
WereCatf said:
Go to settings and turn that option off then...
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+1 to that - this is not a bug, this is a setting you can change, and is documented in your user manual.
Click apps. Settings. Choose the "wireless and network" menu. Click wifi settings. Click "Wifi disconnect policy" and modify it.
"Bug" fixed.
yikes i almost forgot about netflix
Netflix works great on the a500 - you need to root via Iconiaroot (assuming you are using 3.1) and then simply follow the instructions located here - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1076150
Just follow the instructions - either use root explorer with system mounted r/w or snag Acer recovery installer from market, install cwm, apply the patch.zip and you are done. Netflix looks great on a 10.1
hmm... seems like the consensus is that everyone doesn't have that issue. maybe my situation was a one time only thing.
but let me explain to you what i was doing when it happened:
i got tired of the Market app on the A500. but i'm also tired of the Market app on my HD2 as well. the new updated Market doesn't show you everything, it just shows you like the top ten for every category. anyways... so i put the tablet down (i didn't turn it off or put it in stand-by) and sat in front of my desktop and used the web browser version of Market. i probably spent about 15 minutes or so sending apps to install onto my device. when i went back to check on the tablet, the screen was off. i pressed the power button to bring the screen back on and the Wi-Fi was showing that it was 'OFF'. the only way to bring it back was to restart the Wi-Fi.
so yeah... it was strange. but like i said, maybe it was a one time event.
maybe i'll just set the timeout for higher like 60 mins.
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hmm... seems like the consensus is that everyone doesn't have that issue. maybe my situation was a one time only thing.
but let me explain to you what i was doing when it happened:
i got tired of the Market app on the A500. but i'm also tired of the Market app on my HD2 as well. the new updated Market doesn't show you everything, it just shows you like the top ten for every category. anyways... so i put the tablet down (i didn't turn it off or put it in stand-by) and sat in front of my desktop and used the web browser version of Market. i probably spent about 15 minutes or so sending apps to install onto my device. when i went back to check on the tablet, the screen was off. i pressed the power button to bring the screen back on and the Wi-Fi was showing that it was 'OFF'. the only way to bring it back was to restart the Wi-Fi.
so yeah... it was strange. but like i said, maybe it was a one time event.
maybe i'll just set the timeout for higher like 60 mins.
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Nope.
You issue is a result of your settings. If you want your a500 to keep a active wifi connection while the screen is sleeping, you will need to go into your settings menu and tell your a500 to not drop the connection while the screen is off.
ahhh... cool. i'll definitely be playing with the settings tonight then. thanks.
Wifi is my only complaint so far and I am experiencing the same thing. Mine is set to never disconnect wifi, and it doesn't. It shows wifi connected the whole day under battery usage. However, when the screen goes off it seems to drop the wifi and I must disconnect/reconnect to get it working again when I turn it on. Not every time but it is frequent.
To be clear:
When I turn the screen on, wifi is unusable until I go into settings and toggle it off and back on.
mikel81 said:
Wifi is my only complaint so far and I am experiencing the same thing. Mine is set to never sleep, and it doesn't sleep. It shows wifi connected the whole day under battery usage. However, when the screen goes off it seems to drop the wifi and I must disconnect/reconnect to get it working again when I turn it on. Not every time but it is frequent.
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Are your wifi settings -> wifi disconnect settings set to not drop the connection when screen is off? Screen set to never sleep will not keep a inactive wifi connection alive - you need to go into wifi and networks catagory of settings and modify the disconnect policy.
Yes I know, sorry I meant never disconnect wifi not sleep.
mikel81 said:
Yes I know, sorry I meant never disconnect wifi not sleep.
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I am confused.
Are you saying you have wifi disconnect policy set to "Never disconnect", but are having issues holding a wifi connection after turning the screen off?
Please provide more information, very hard to troubleshoot something this vague.
There is a difference between WiFi turning off and WiFi disconnecting.
Here is what I'm seeing on mine:
1) With my tab on, WiFi connected, browser working, I can ping my tab from my desktop.
2) Shut down browser, put tab to sleep, wait an unknown timeframe (lets say 15 minutes).
3) Wake tab, see WiFi is still connected, do nothing else. Start pings from desktop in a continuious loop, pings all fail, despite WiFi connected on tab.
4) Start browser on tab, browser connects to test website, and suddenly pings respond on desktop.
So, it appears that while the WiFi on the tab stays connected, it does not actually go 'active' and start handling data until an app needs it, such as the browser.
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There is a difference between WiFi turning off and WiFi disconnecting.
Here is what I'm seeing on mine:
1) With my tab on, WiFi connected, browser working, I can ping my tab from my desktop.
2) Shut down browser, put tab to sleep, wait an unknown timeframe (lets say 15 minutes).
3) Wake tab, see WiFi is still connected, do nothing else. Start pings from desktop in a continuious loop, pings all fail, despite WiFi connected on tab.
4) Start browser on tab, browser connects to test website, and suddenly pings respond on desktop.
So, it appears that while the WiFi on the tab stays connected, it does not actually go 'active' and start handling data until an app needs it, such as the browser.
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No shortage of apps that can work around this - I don't understand why you want a network connection when nothing is using it, but to each their own
https://market.android.com/search?q=wifi+keep+alive&so=1&c=apps
The wifi issue you describe is not a bug. It is an android feature to reduce battery drain. If an app or connection is not in use, it is cached until a process is called.then the wifi connection becomes active. You can disable wifi sleep policy but you will see a battery drain if you set it that way.
Remember the two most important parts of a tablet are the screen and the battery. A poor screen or poor battery life will kill sales for that tab faster than apple can draw up a lawsuit.
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Moshe5368 said:
The wifi issue you describe is not a bug. It is an android feature to reduce battery drain. If an app or connection is not in use, it is cached until a process is called.then the wifi connection becomes active. You can disable wifi sleep policy but you will see a battery drain if you set it that way.
Remember the two most important parts of a tablet are the screen and the battery. A poor screen or poor battery life will kill sales for that tab faster than apple can draw up a lawsuit.
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Well described.
Not sure why a user would want to bypass this - the moment an app requests data, as long as wifi disco policy is set - network connection is set to active.
entropy.of.avarice said:
Well described.
Not sure why a user would want to bypass this - the moment an app requests data, as long as wifi disco policy is set - network connection is set to active.
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Untrue. I have used a number of applications that when launched, do not 'activate' the connected WiFi. Two for example, 'QuickSSHd', which is a SFTP and SSH server, and 'IP Webcam' a webcam server.
Wake up the Tablet, and see that the WiFi shows a connection. Fire up either of these server applications, and try to connect to them. No go...
Now go fire up the browser, which of course makes an 'outbound' connection, the WiFi 'activates' at that time, and suddenly both of the aforementioned server applications can be connected to.
In other words, when the 'conected' WiFi is asleep, it takes an 'outbound' app to wake up the wifi. An app that is waiting for an incoming connection never sees one until an outbound app wakes up the wifi.
NOTE: This behavior is NOT seen on my Android Gingerbread phone, running the same apps with the same sleep settings.
nick2k said:
+YouTube plays nice. i can already tell that i'm gonna be using this for mainly YouTube. but it really sucks that some videos won't play because it considers the A500 a "mobile device".
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It is not the video seeing the tablet as a mobile device.
It is your settings.
You can fix it very easily.
2 things to do.
open your browser
in the URL window (address bar) type about:debug and hit enter
it seems nothing happens but it adds a debug in settings
Next
On the very top right click the 4 lines with an arrow.
Click settings and on the left side click "advanced"
click "Viewing Mode" and set it to "desktop.
Now on the left click debug
click UAString and click desktop.
That's it.
Make sure you haven't saved any bookmarks from the mobile sites or they will still open from the bookmark as mobile sites.
Has anyone managed to permanently resolve this issue yet?
rickykemp said:
Has anyone managed to permanently resolve this issue yet?
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Sadly, I have just encountered this same problem - had my Yoga Book for a couple of weeks only, ran through the Android (version) update(s) and chucked a load of my usual apps on......and then this issue manifested
Having read around, seems that the only/most reliable 'fix' is the Battery Saver toggle, which - frankly - is not good enough. Whatever gets 'suppressed' with this mode is the key - something is not playing nice, and it is restricted to no effect when Battery Saver is on.....but what??
kevpuk said:
Sadly, I have just encountered this same problem - had my Yoga Book for a couple of weeks only, ran through the Android (version) update(s) and chucked a load of my usual apps on......and then this issue manifested
Having read around, seems that the only/most reliable 'fix' is the Battery Saver toggle, which - frankly - is not good enough. Whatever gets 'suppressed' with this mode is the key - something is not playing nice, and it is restricted to no effect when Battery Saver is on.....but what??
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To me the behaviour seems like the update apps function has been disabled with the wrong battery saver state
What exactly happens? I have not got this issue but have seen similar issues on other android devices. If the OS thinks there is an app drawing over the screen. The Install button will show but do nothing when you press it. This is normal behaviour and part of the security for Android. Otherwise an app could draw over the install button with something else to trick you into pressing Install. Battery save is probably a red herring. It just happens to be killing the app with draw over other apps permissions. Look what apps have that permission and then force close one by one till the install works again. That will tell you which it is.
Hope that makes sense.
What happens for me, and I have only had my YogaBook for a few weeks, is that any app you try to update/install from the Play Store just doesn't actually start downloading: You are able to click on the 'Update' or 'Install' button, but then all that happens is that the horizontal progress bar appears, states 'Downloading' but never actually starts/progresses - you can leave this screen in place for several minutes/until patience expires(!)
Only solution I have found is, as per others, to turn on Batter Saver in the settings menu, and the same install/update/download then more or less instantly commences to actually happen!
Very bizarre......some sort of power saving setting in relation to the 'Download Manager' service, I reckon.......but nothing empirical to back this up. However, without fail, toggling the Battery Saver option on instantly allows the download et al to happen.
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Very bizarre......some sort of power saving setting in relation to the 'Download Manager' service, I reckon.......but nothing empirical to back this up. However, without fail, toggling the Battery Saver option on instantly allows the download et al to happen.
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I noticed - I have not found a clear pattern - that sometimes, apps are installing or updating without the battery saver mode being on. Not always, and again, essentially always battery saver mode fixes this. It seems like they install on battery saver off more often when my VPN is active, but again, it isn't consistent.
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Well as i type its back to installing as normal and the only thing i can think of is that my device previously went to zero charge. There was a google apps update too so not sure if its to do with that either.
Broomfundel said:
What exactly happens? I have not got this issue but have seen similar issues on other android devices. If the OS thinks there is an app drawing over the screen. The Install button will show but do nothing when you press it. This is normal behaviour and part of the security for Android. Otherwise an app could draw over the install button with something else to trick you into pressing Install. Battery save is probably a red herring. It just happens to be killing the app with draw over other apps permissions. Look what apps have that permission and then force close one by one till the install works again. That will tell you which it is.
Hope that makes sense.
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Its certainly a good hypothesis, however, if i turn battery saver off, i am instantly again not able to download from the play store.
Ok so gets more curios - i installed CCleaner and opening the app makes downloads resume.
Ok so i think i have solved it. In my case it was outlook - i uninstalled it and now can download apps fine
Ok so scratch that, back to usual behaviour. Thought it was touchpal keyboard but no
I've never been able to find a direct cause as to why this happens. I've tried everything, including a full stock flash of the firmware. Even full stock, it worked fine for a while, but the issue eventually resurfaced.
I believe the service that's affected is D2dTransportService - com.google.android.gms.backup.component.D2dTransportService within Google Play Services. For some reason, it becomes disabled, and even forcing it to be enabled through a services manager app doesn't keep it active. I had a lot more insight into this a while back, but have since stopped caring as nothing worked and Lenovo isn't going to fix anything at this point.
No idea what's going on, but as others have said, the battery saver toggle is the only surefire 'fix' at this point. Given everything else seems to be working as expected, I've let it go and just accepted this as the new norm, ha.
I had kinda given up too, as the battery saver toggle was a hassle but worked. The past few days, it hasn't been working however. I spent most of the morning disabling various apps and services just to get back to being able to use the battery saver workaround. I'm so annoyed with lenovo and won't suggest their stuff anymore.
Ok so it gets more curious - the downloading works as expected when running in safe mode. The only thing that I can see that isn't running in the processes monitor is under 'Google services'. I have managed to get the downloading working as normal with a combination of disabling various processes but I can't replicate the steps each time.
right so i've narrowed it down to swiftkey keyboard. removing swiftkey and clearing the data of the download manager has fixed my downloading issue. back to normal!
Hmmm, I haven't installed Swiftkey (or any other 3rd party keyboard) on my YogaBook, and have tried clearing Download manager data/cache previously, along with all the other Google Play related things (services etc.)......and no joy, still only manage to download/update from Playstore when the Battery Saver is enabled.
Interestingly, however, the tablet will always identify/notify of available updates.....this means that the connectivity in Playstore works partially at all times, it is just the actual download element it fails on!!!!!
kevpuk said:
Hmmm, I haven't installed Swiftkey (or any other 3rd party keyboard) on my YogaBook, and have tried clearing Download manager data/cache previously, along with all the other Google Play related things (services etc.)......and no joy, still only manage to download/update from Playstore when the Battery Saver is enabled.
Interestingly, however, the tablet will always identify/notify of available updates.....this means that the connectivity in Playstore works partially at all times, it is just the actual download element it fails on!!!!!
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Do you have any third party input methods enabled?
rickykemp said:
Do you have any third party input methods enabled?
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No, just whatever is 'stock' - think that is Gboard, Google Voice typing and TouchPal
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Ok so it gets more curious - the downloading works as expected when running in safe mode. The only thing that I can see that isn't running in the processes monitor is under 'Google services'. I have managed to get the downloading working as normal with a combination of disabling various processes but I can't replicate the steps each time.
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I'm bumping an old thread, but how do you get it in safe mode? I tried holding down the volume key on boot and it did not seem to work.
I thought at one point that, when I had SwiftKey installed, I started getting a lot more random reboots and also apps would not update even with battery saver. When I uninstalled it, apps started installing with battery saver again, but now I just re installed it, and they are still downloading with battery saver. So I still don't know, and now I'm not sure if it is causing the random reboots, either. Every once in a while I futz with it or else I just kind of let it be.
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Try a "force stop" of the "Android Accessibility Suite" then start "Play Store" and see if updating now works.