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Is the Note 3 worth buying even if I hate Touchwiz to death ?

OK, I'm buying a new phone very soon, so far I'm going with the HTC one M8...
But, the note 3 is only 40$ more which got me thinking if it's worth it..
Here's a comparison between the two in terms of specs : http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=6074&idPhone2=5665
My only issue is I hate touchwiz to death... I hate it so much that I'd rather use iOS than using touchwiz and I hate iOS so much as well BTW, but still.. Touchwiz.. Uggh..
And that means that I'd be relying mainly on AOSP ROMs..
So how are they on the snapdragon model.. Are they as stable as official ? Is there any known unfixable issues on them ? Performance wise ? The Camera ?
And on a totally different subject, does it record slow mo videos ?
I can see it records 1080p60fps... What about 120fps on 720p ? Is it possible ?

Camera is not as good as on Samsung ROMs, and NFC does not always work, but otherwise the ROMs are as good as you would get on a Nexus device, IMHO.
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Camera is not as good as on Samsung ROMs, and NFC does not always work, but otherwise the ROMs are as good as you would get on a Nexus device, IMHO.
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Define "not as good" ?
Any major crashes or just overall quality ?

You may hate TouchWiz as i did, until they released a different version for Note 5/S6. While they're stubbornness to respond to UI/UX feedback from users is still lacking, Sammy did something here worth checking (i think it has to do with the fact that they asked Google for help).
The Note 5/S6 Ports are SOLID. Personally, AOSP is unmatchable to TW Ports in battery life, but they're better in performance though (most of the times). Please note that this is from my personal experience, i prefer not to flash every week a major system update, let alone daily.
Again, a Note 5 Port gave me 2 days of battery life with 5 hours screen time, consistently, with minimal modding.

PlutoDelic said:
You may hate TouchWiz as i did, until they released a different version for Note 5/S6. While they're stubbornness to respond to UI/UX feedback from users is still lacking, Sammy did something here worth checking (i think it has to do with the fact that they asked Google for help).
The Note 5/S6 Ports are SOLID. Personally, AOSP is unmatchable to TW Ports in battery life, but they're better in performance though (most of the times). Please note that this is from my personal experience, i prefer not to flash every week a major system update, let alone daily.
Again, a Note 5 Port gave me 2 days of battery life with 5 hours screen time, consistently, with minimal modding.
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I don't just hate touchwiz coz of its performance... I hate it coz it looks pretty darn awful.
If I'm getting the note 3.. I don't think I'm ever gonna be running TW...
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so still my questions ?
if anyone's has been running AOSP roms for a while, I'd love to know how it's been going ? major issues or anything ?

biascoblix said:
Define "not as good" ?
Any major crashes or just overall quality ?
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Poor low-light performance. Sometimes blurry images. IRS usable but not great. YMMV.
For system stability, if you are comfortable with CM, it's as good as is expected. Some builds and kernels are solid as rock, others a crash-fest. I'm very happy but others are not.
One thing to note, though, is that the next Android update might have issues, as a lot of the devs have moved to newer devices. Marshmallow builds are now good enough to use, but next year things might be more difficult.
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Poor low-light performance. Sometimes blurry images. IRS usable but not great. YMMV.
For system stability, if you are comfortable with CM, it's as good as is expected. Some builds and kernels are solid as rock, others a crash-fest. I'm very happy but others are not.
One thing to note, though, is that the next Android update might have issues, as a lot of the devs have moved to newer devices. Marshmallow builds are now good enough to use, but next year things might be more difficult.
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That's the things I care about....
Well, then.. No NOTE 3 for me...
Thanks for your help.. I think I'm gonna go with the M8.. It has a more active development community...
or wait, and eventually get a 5X or a 6P

biascoblix said:
That's the things I care about....
Well, then.. No NOTE 3 for me...
Thanks for your help.. I think I'm gonna go with the M8.. It has a more active development community...
or wait, and eventually get a 5X or a 6P
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I'm waiting for the next Nexus phones myself. Recently got my son a Nexus 5 and realized how much nicer it is to have a phone fully supported by AOSP. Better camera and longer period of upgrades.
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jisoo said:
I'm waiting for the next Nexus phones myself. Recently got my son a Nexus 5 and realized how much nicer it is to have a phone fully supported by AOSP. Better camera and longer period of upgrades.
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Yea, I just checked with the stores here... The 5X is available... But I really wanna get the 6P.. I might wait till its price drop a lille bit... If it doesn't in the next two months.. I'll just go with the 5X

You can try stable asop rom. I prefer CM roms. Its much much better than touchwiz roms

Opo or opt

I play lot of games and need good battery. Will use for two years at least.
These are my basic needs. Pls lemme decide between these two phones.
Scratching my head regarding, mmm, sorry to say again, SD 810 issues.
Am huge fan of cyanogenmod. Is oxygen os treating you well guys. Or cm with opo is better.

Oneplus 2, with modified thermal you can play games without aggressive thermal throttling. SD 810 rumors are exaggerated
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Migdilu said:
Oneplus 2, with modified thermal you can play games without aggressive thermal throttling. SD 810 rumors are exaggerated
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I am an aggressive flasher. First thing I do is root. Currently using moto x play. Will switch optwo I think.
Wanted to know the users experience. Marketing hype backfired oneplus image I guess.

Previous OPO, currently OPT owner here. I can't wait for the day there's a reasonably good version of CM available for OPT (be it 12.1 or 13). Reasonably good for me means things like camera and gps work at all times and common apps like FB don't force close. I am even willing to give up on fingerprint scanner even though I do (and have to) use password to unlock the device.
Once that moment comes, OOS is gone from my OPT forever. OOS on OPT is nowhere close to CyanogenOS (not to confuse with CM, but IMHO the two are comparable) on OPO was. Really, this change was a major step back software-wise. OPT may be a great piece of hardware, but OOS - in my humble opinion - cripples it and, I have to repeat myself, is absolute rubbish compared to CyanogenOS.
Put it in another words, if I knew how bad stock firmware OPT comes with, I would stay with OPO without any hesitation, period.

Thanks for the feedback. That's the dilemma for me. I know opo had great os. Unfortunate that they had to develop their own os.
Have to keep fingers crossed with oxygen os. I have heard that they gave two updates now and the devices have better battery life.

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I have heard that they gave two updates now and the devices have better battery life.
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They push updates monthly, but it's all just minor stuff from my perspective - bug fixes that didn't even bother me, for example some dual sim issues. I didn't have any battery issues since Day 1.
I guess it all depends on your use case and past user experience - for example, if this was my first encounter with Android, I could be easily thrilled about OOS. But, it's not - and I'm not. At all.

If you like CM badly, buy OPO now. Sell it and get OP2 when marshmallow is officially out and cm on OPT is stable.
You may feel that this is a bad suggestion but this is my honest opinion unless you are willing to use Oxygen with custom kernel for now.
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Ive had them both too. The OPO has a lot going more custom roms if that's something you're interested in. The OPT doesn't have much in the custom rom department yet. The 5.1 roms you won't have fingerprint scanner or lazer auto focus. But if you root and install xposed and a few of the modules and add boeffla kernel, i pulled over 91,000 on antutu. The SD810 only gets warm when i do a back-up, wipe and install all in a row. The firngerprint scanner is really convenient a long with the alert slider

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Previous OPO, currently OPT owner here. I can't wait for the day there's a reasonably good version of CM available for OPT (be it 12.1 or 13). Reasonably good for me means things like camera and gps work at all times and common apps like FB don't force close. I am even willing to give up on fingerprint scanner even though I do (and have to) use password to unlock the device.
Once that moment comes, OOS is gone from my OPT forever. OOS on OPT is nowhere close to CyanogenOS (not to confuse with CM, but IMHO the two are comparable) on OPO was. Really, this change was a major step back software-wise. OPT may be a great piece of hardware, but OOS - in my humble opinion - cripples it and, I have to repeat myself, is absolute rubbish compared to CyanogenOS.
Put it in another words, if I knew how bad stock firmware OPT comes with, I would stay with OPO without any hesitation, period.
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Check out pacman rom cm 12.1, there's a build somewhere near December 3rd that is literally perfect. I've been running it since that day and absolutely everything works out of the box, camera at 13 mp, Snapchat, GPS, amazing battery/performance, and Facebook. Obviously no fingerprint and laser auto focus but its by far the best cm rom I've used on this phone, cm 12.1 nightlies are getting buggier and buggier it seems and I've had no reason to switch from this. Use dualboot if you're hesitant

I am using moto x play at the moment. Need another mobile now. One plus two is impressive lookwise.
I was going through op2 forum. Seems buzzing. I ll be active here once I get one plus two.
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emelsk said:
Previous OPO, currently OPT owner here. I can't wait for the day there's a reasonably good version of CM available for OPT (be it 12.1 or 13). Reasonably good for me means things like camera and gps work at all times and common apps like FB don't force close. I am even willing to give up on fingerprint scanner even though I do (and have to) use password to unlock the device.
Once that moment comes, OOS is gone from my OPT forever. OOS on OPT is nowhere close to CyanogenOS (not to confuse with CM, but IMHO the two are comparable) on OPO was. Really, this change was a major step back software-wise. OPT may be a great piece of hardware, but OOS - in my humble opinion - cripples it and, I have to repeat myself, is absolute rubbish compared to CyanogenOS.
Put it in another words, if I knew how bad stock firmware OPT comes with, I would stay with OPO without any hesitation, period.
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Exact same as him and I can't agree enough. He nailed it

Gopinath15 said:
I play lot of games and need good battery. Will use for two years at least.
These are my basic needs. Pls lemme decide between these two phones.
Scratching my head regarding, mmm, sorry to say again, SD 810 issues.
Am huge fan of cyanogenmod. Is oxygen os treating you well guys. Or cm with opo is better.
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Oneplus 2 for sure. I also came from Mi3W. There is very less heat when compared to Mi3W. Recent updates in OPO has been and seeing the Oneplus forums flooded with OPO software issues. OP2 has been getting good updates and most of the bugs are cleared now. Go for OP2 you may not regret it.

Like how opo was at its early age. It was glitchy and needed a lot of bugs to be squashed, but it ended up being so good that it's still getting praises compared to current flagships. That could very likely be the same opt it's buggy now, but once it starts rolling expect it to be a beast also

demongokul said:
Oneplus 2 for sure. I also came from Mi3W. There is very less heat when compared to Mi3W. Recent updates in OPO has been and seeing the Oneplus forums flooded with OPO software issues. OP2 has been getting good updates and most of the bugs are cleared now. Go for OP2 you may not regret it.
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I was using mi3 for an year and half and active in miui forums. Lost it and got moto x play. Shall get op2 soon. Thanks for suggestion )
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I was using mi3 for an year and half and active in miui forums. Lost it and got moto x play. Shall get op2 soon. Thanks for suggestion )
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is moto x play is good device? .

Tatsuya_ said:
is moto x play is good device? .
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Oh yes. I thought 615 sd will heat. Motorola really did a good job. Doesn't hear you and giving a great battery life. It has exceeded my expectation
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OP2 is receiving prompt updates every month so far and snapdragon810 was proven tame-able with correct kernel setup and parameters (like Boeffla kernel for an example)
If you expect op2 to work great out of the box I would say no. But if you try to tame it by following guides available here, it is a bang of a buck for its price compared to other snapdragon810 devices in its era
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Dual sim needed?
Or
Custom rom and developer friendly?
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As a newly OPT owner (used it for a month now), I would look elsewhere for a phone at the moment. All the custom roms are crippled (can't use AutoFocus, can't use Fingerprint scanner), OOS is ehh (even with their minor updates), OOS has a slight lag to the phone, and battery life is only so-so. Don't forget there's no quick charging. If you don't need dual sim, maybe take a look at nexus 6p.

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As a newly OPT owner (used it for a month now), I would look elsewhere for a phone at the moment. All the custom roms are crippled (can't use AutoFocus, can't use Fingerprint scanner), OOS is ehh (even with their minor updates), OOS has a slight lag to the phone, and battery life is only so-so. Don't forget there's no quick charging. If you don't need dual sim, maybe take a look at nexus 6p.
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The person created the thread lives in India. Nexus 6P costs 60% more than the Oneplus 2.

Not enough love for the Max 2?

Why is there so little love for this device?
there is only 5 threads in the dev subforum.
2 of them is about recovery
1 is on unofficial LineageOS
1 on a DPI changing patch and the last one on beta MIUI 9
thinking to myself if i've decided on the less loved device lol

Xiaomi has not released the kernel source. This makes development challenging. Things are probably going to change when that happens in roughly 5 months (based on delay to release Mi Max sources).

wwwwe said:
Xiaomi has not released the kernel source. This makes development challenging. Things are probably going to change when that happens in roughly 5 months (based on delay to release Mi Max sources).
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holy ...
this is my 1st xiaomi device. didn't know they take so long to release their sources.
5 months is a long time man lol... that is kinda disappointing.
but let's just hope it'll be sooner, thats all users can do..

I was an earlier obsessive ROM/kernel flasher and have now sort of settled down. I honestly feel that stock roms are good enough for most general use cases. What I would suggest is to get on the Global MIUI beta for the weekly updates. Nothing offers more stabiility (in terms of connectivity, bluetooth, GPS, etc) for a device as the stock rom and I am saying this from experience.

praveen6585 said:
I was an earlier obsessive ROM/kernel flasher and have now sort of settled down. I honestly feel that stock roms are good enough for most general use cases. What I would suggest is to get on the Global MIUI beta for the weekly updates. Nothing offers more stabiility (in terms of connectivity, bluetooth, GPS, etc) for a device as the stock rom and I am saying this from experience.
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Thank you for the inputs.
I played around for a day / two but MIUI, it is just a little too messy.
Settings seems to be all over the place.
I've been on android devices since cupcake and always like the simplicity of aosp or lineage in this case ever since cyan. That is y I'm looking forward to lineage official support. I guess it'll happen, just gotta wait till kernel source is releaseed. :fingers-crossed:

praveen6585 said:
I was an earlier obsessive ROM/kernel flasher and have now sort of settled down. I honestly feel that stock roms are good enough for most general use cases. What I would suggest is to get on the Global MIUI beta for the weekly updates. Nothing offers more stabiility (in terms of connectivity, bluetooth, GPS, etc) for a device as the stock rom and I am saying this from experience.
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I agree. With my first android phones, custom roms could be an improvement. But now adays, theyre usually worse. I have had a redmi note 2, redmi note 3, mi max and now mi max 2. Miui-roms has been the best rom for all of them. especially battery life and camera.
I root, delete apps I dont want, choose the launcher and theme I want and I can get the look I prefer.

noobhero said:
Thank you for the inputs.
I played around for a day / two but MIUI, it is just a little too messy.
Settings seems to be all over the place.
I've been on android devices since cupcake and always like the simplicity of aosp or lineage in this case ever since cyan. That is y I'm looking forward to lineage official support. I guess it'll happen, just gotta wait till kernel source is releaseed. :fingers-crossed:
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MIUI is not that bad at all in my opinion. Give it a try a little more. It's not bloated, interface is relatively clean. I just don't like that dodgy built-in cleaner app.

Cryonics said:
MIUI is not that bad at all in my opinion. Give it a try a little more. It's not bloated, interface is relatively clean. I just don't like that dodgy built-in cleaner app.
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it'll come a day, whereby things will just be like @praveen6585 .. i'll get tired of following updates and flashing this unlocking that and just settle with what comes out of the box. there's just too much options nowadays.. and too much to read into lol.

There will be more mi max 2 buy by Indians as there is huge discount in flipkart. So future development will be good for this giant.

Got this phone for INR 11700/- (184 USD)
4GB RAM/32 GB.
Now looking back worried, because there seems to be no stable custom ROMs out there...

Xiaomi4X said:
Got this phone for INR 11700/- (184 USD)
4GB RAM/32 GB.
Now looking back worried, because there seems to be no stable custom ROMs out there...
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They r great at coming out with cheap phones with good specs but suport is ughs.
I now only use this for media consumption if am not on my tablet.
Have moved on to the op5t.
This have been a standby for me anyway. I’ll be glad if theres even a decent kernel out there.

Cryonics said:
MIUI is not that bad at all in my opinion. Give it a try a little more. It's not bloated, interface is relatively clean. I just don't like that dodgy built-in cleaner app.
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I'm with you. I'm a former serial flasher with all my samsung phones but now I'm more than content to have something that just works...no crashes, no spontaneous reboots, no compromises. I did switch to the DEV rom so I get weekly updates which suits me fine. LOVE this phone.

um...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-max-2/development/available-stock-custom-roms-mi-max-2-t3737523
besides, kernel sources were released just 16 days ago. give it some time, im sure there will be something more coming up soon-ish

Alternative Stable OREO ROM for Mi6

Hi.
Is there any Stable Oreo ROM for Mi6?
What guys will you recommend?
I'm full of MIUI and want to start journey with some alternative ROM

Stable and Android 8? Nop.
So far the stable ROMs are based on Android 7.1.2 and even in those, you are going to lose some performance and camera functions even if you activate the camera2 api. What do you dislike about Miui??

Battery performance on MIUI is not the best

SkubiDoo said:
Battery performance on MIUI is not the best
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Battery timing on Miui is way better than non miui roms. You will need custom kernels and some modifications to ensure good battery life.

SkubiDoo said:
Battery performance on MIUI is not the best
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That's funny because battery performance is one of the best things that MIUI has in comparison to other android layers/ROMs
And I dislike MIUI aswell, but I stay with it since it offers the most battery life and camera quality of all ROMs

I won't agree with that I owned Mi5 before and after I install AEX - battery performance highly changed on + compare to MIUI. This is why I'm looking for some stable alternative ROM for Mi6

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I won't agree with that I owned Mi5 before and after I install AEX - battery performance highly changed on + compare to MIUI. This is why I'm looking for some stable alternative ROM for Mi6
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I would agree. Battery on MIUI isn't actually any better than other ROMs. They are all roughly the same or longer on custom ROMs because they don't have so much bloat running.
However you can extend MIUI battery and performance by disabling MIUI enhancements. Task killers are no longer necessary on android.
Enable developer settings and set memory optimisations to off and disable the MIUI optimisations.
Then it will use the normal android management which is much better for battery and multi tasking.
MIUI is still using task killers based on saving battery on old android versions. Nougat and Oreo definitely don't need this

Dobsgw said:
I would agree. Battery on MIUI isn't actually any better than other ROMs. They are all roughly the same or longer on custom ROMs because they don't have so much bloat running.
However you can extend MIUI battery and performance by disabling MIUI enhancements. Task killers are no longer necessary on android.
Enable developer settings and set memory optimisations to off and disable the MIUI optimisations.
Then it will use the normal android management which is much better for battery and multi tasking.
MIUI is still using task killers based on saving battery on old android versions. Nougat and Oreo definitely don't need this
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I will try this memory opt to disable.
What about alternative ROMs? What will you recommend?

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I will try this memory opt to disable.
What about alternative ROMs? What will you recommend?
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Any of the nougat ROMs that seem stable.
Either LOS or AOSPA

SkubiDoo said:
Battery performance on MIUI is not the best
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The battery life on custom room is about the same., Even when using popkern. You may find another issues on the custom ROMs.
But if you want a custom rom, my advice would be trying first Aicp 12.1 it's stable and unless you game won't notice the performance drop.
Los 15.1 is way too buggy to be used as a daily

I am using Atomic OS. The battery life is great, it is fast, it is 8.1 and overall a great ROM. Things that are still not perfect: Bluetooth calls don't work (but will be fixed) and sometimes a micro lag while typing.

Ultraschorsch said:
I am using Atomic OS. The battery life is great, it is fast, it is 8.1 and overall a great ROM. Things that are still not perfect: Bluetooth calls don't work (but will be fixed) and sometimes a micro lag while typing.
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I will wait on AOSPA until the Atomic is officially released
Wysłane z mojego MI 6 przy użyciu Tapatalka

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I will wait on AOSPA until the Atomic is officially released
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It is now. Thread is in the ROMs section.
Unless you need Bluetooth calls it seems to be pretty much fully functional

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It is now. Thread is in the ROMs section.
Unless you need Bluetooth calls it seems to be pretty much fully functional
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The performance is unreal compared other custom roms, battery life is fantastic.

NickTheSickDick said:
The performance is unreal compared other custom roms, battery life is fantastic.
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Do you have a break down of all the bugs?
Someone was complaining there was no notification sounds etc but I think that would get more widely reported...
Seems like there's no reason not to use it atm

Dobsgw said:
Do you have a break down of all the bugs?
Someone was complaining there was no notification sounds etc but I think that would get more widely reported...
Seems like there's no reason not to use it atm
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Notification sounds are working perfectly normally, only thing I've noticed is that it stutters at times, and very rarely hangs for a couple seconds.
Only other thing is that dark UI renders some text unreadable, but this is mostly a non issue, as it affects very few areas.

They might be messing something up during installation.

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Notification sounds are working perfectly normally, only thing I've noticed is that it stutters at times, and very rarely hangs for a couple seconds.
Only other thing is that dark UI renders some text unreadable, but this is mostly a non issue, as it affects very few areas.
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I'll probably use the normal UI anyway unless dark is default.
Sounds good I'll be checking it out tomorrow once I've made some backups etc

Sorry for out of topic guys.
Do u think is worth to buy this phone compared to oneplus 5, cause mi 6 is a lot cheaper.
But I wonder why there is only a few custom roms here?
since this phone is xiaomi flagship.
Honesty I don't like miui, I preferred aosp. Do you think the development on this phone will grow anytime soon?
Or should I just wait for Mi 7? What do u think guys

arifreggit said:
Sorry for out of topic guys.
Do u think is worth to buy this phone compared to oneplus 5, cause mi 6 is a lot cheaper.
But I wonder why there is only a few custom roms here?
since this phone is xiaomi flagship.
Honesty I don't like miui, I preferred aosp. Do you think the development on this phone will grow anytime soon?
Or should I just wait for Mi 7? What do u think guys
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From what I'm reading:
OnePlus 5 < Mi 6 < OP 5T
If you have the money get the 5T as its more recent.
It also looks more aesthetically pleasing as it has the newer long curved screen.
If not then get the Mi 6.
You can unlock and be using a custom ROM pretty fast just apply for unlocking when you get the phone (but test the phone for some time before you unlock in case you need warranty).
MIUI is actually very pleasant and I enjoy using it. I just prefer custom ROMs because AOSP is less iOS orientated.
If you can wait or you have a decent phone now then just wait because 845 devices are coming so you can get one of those or at least they will blow the price of the current devices way down. Next year we will see them.
Everyone is complain complain complain about Mi 6 ROMs and they should honestly be buying OP phones for more money because that's where the extra money goes - the marketing to developers.
Coming from Sony though I'm over the moon. My phone doesn't bend in my pocket.
My phone doesn't have dead pixels. My phone doesn't come back from the repair center even more bent (yes that's a thing with Sony).
My phone doesn't have incredibly crippling DRM restrictions after unlocking the bootloader so my camera doesn't kill itself after rooting.
And now I can actually have the latest versions of android from the OEM or faster from the talented devs here.
So compared to other OEMs Xiaomi is the f*ucking dream especially considering the price of the phone.
I'm gonna buy another one in a few years and if its as good as the Mi 6 they'll have a loyal customer for life.
The only exception would be if OP releases something better for equal or less money but I doubt they can pull it off.
My only complaint with Xiaomi might be that they use Foxconn as a manufacturer and they don't have the best track record with working conditions since their work for Apple, but I think for any OEM to be competitive they are all sliding down that slope.
Universally better working conditions for electronics manufacture would be nice, but we are a ways off from that.

HTC U Ultra no updates since Feb 2018... still safe for daily use?

I have a two years HTC U Ultra as a daily driver, battery duration and other minor annoyances aside, I am pretty happy and I don't feel the need of replacing it. What worries me more is the lack of updates for the last 18+ months, what makes me wonder if it is really safe to keep using it "as is". I know there are alternative custom ROMs, but I already walked this route with other devices and they just don't meet my needs, the overall user experience is worse and the unlocked bootloader gives me headaches with apps like netflix and others. What leads me to the question... is an Android device with 8.0 and no security updates since early 2018 still safe to use?
Thanks.

Pocket_rocket said:
I have a two years HTC U Ultra as a daily driver, battery duration and other minor annoyances aside, I am pretty happy and I don't feel the need of replacing it. What worries me more is the lack of updates for the last 18+ months, what makes me wonder if it is really safe to keep using it "as is". I know there are alternative custom ROMs, but I already walked this route with other devices and they just don't meet my needs, the overall user experience is worse and the unlocked bootloader gives me headaches with apps like netflix and others. What leads me to the question... is an Android device with 8.0 and no security updates since early 2018 still safe to use?
Thanks.
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If it is safe? I think it still is, thinking about some who still use android 4.4 to 7. It has of course more exploitable holes in system, but it depends on what you visit online, what you download, apps you use, etc. I think that with the encryption, the stock could be safer than the custom ROMs. I am on Android Q and is not as stable as stock, the camera is also not so stable. I'm using it because this version has better battery life and speed than stock. But that's the story with almost all phones with custom ROM, an adventure .
It is a shame that HTC stopped the support for HTC U Ultra so fast, so we cannot have all.

acristescu said:
If it is safe? I think it still is, thinking about some who still use android 4.4 to 7. It has of course more exploitable holes in system, but it depends on what you visit online, what you download, apps you use, etc. I think that with the encryption, the stock could be safer than the custom ROMs. I am on Android Q and is not as stable as stock, the camera is also not so stable. I'm using it because this version has better battery life and speed than stock. But that's the story with almost all phones with custom ROM, an adventure .
It is a shame that HTC stopped the support for HTC U Ultra so fast, so we cannot have all.
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android Q is better or 9.0 in terms of stability , camera , battery ?
and can we take any legal steps against htc to force them update the u ultra to the pie update as it has to do so as the device should have 2 years of updates , i think a legal case can be made against them
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Pocket_rocket said:
I have a two years HTC U Ultra as a daily driver, battery duration and other minor annoyances aside, I am pretty happy and I don't feel the need of replacing it. What worries me more is the lack of updates for the last 18+ months, what makes me wonder if it is really safe to keep using it "as is". I know there are alternative custom ROMs, but I already walked this route with other devices and they just don't meet my needs, the overall user experience is worse and the unlocked bootloader gives me headaches with apps like netflix and others. What leads me to the question... is an Android device with 8.0 and no security updates since early 2018 still safe to use?
Thanks.
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i like the stock too , specially in camera as other custom roms doesn't support the focus of camera and the laser autofocus , but now i have a strange bug that the device tries to launch something in a fraction of second and then it doesn't open it . so u see that strange empty pop up that makes the device really bad to use , did u face it ?

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now i have a strange bug that the device tries to launch something in a fraction of second and then it doesn't open it . so u see that strange empty pop up that makes the device really bad to use , did u face it ?
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No, that didn't happen to me so far. The worst problem it has, after two years of use, the battery duration just sucks. It never was that good, not even new, but now I can't stay too far from a charger. I haven't had good experience with third-part replacement batteries in the past, so I am not replacing it for the moment.